Home
Archive
Newsletters
Video
Blogs
Discuss
About
Search
Donate
Advertise

Can't Afford That Operation? Fly to Another Country

By Dean Baker, Comment Is Free. Posted November 12, 2007.


The cost of medical care in the US is becoming so ridiculous it invites an absurd solution: fly Americans to hospitals overseas.

Share and save this post:

      

      

Share on Facebook       

AlterNet Social Networks:
follow us on twitter
find us on Facebook

In Special Coverage

Belief:
Is Blind Faith in God and the Bible a Modern Invention?
Devilstower

Corporate Accountability and WorkPlace:
What Can the Morass of the 1970s Tell Us About the Current Economic Crisis?
Alejandro Reuss

DrugReporter:
Why Are We Locking Up Traumatized Veterans for Their Addictions Instead of Offering Them Treatment?
Penny Coleman

Environment:
Why Max Baucus' 'No' Vote on the Climate Bill May Really Help Its Passage
Jeff Mcmahon

Food:
Soda Helps Make Americans Unhealthy and Fat -- Will Soda Tax Prevail Despite Pushback by Beverage Industry?
Christine Spolar, Joseph Eaton

Health and Wellness:
Does the House Bill's Public Option Kill Off the Senate's?
Booman

Immigration:
Recent Democratic Victories May Grease the Wheels for Immigration Reform in Congress
Marcelo Balive

Media and Technology:
Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh Stoking GOP Civil War
Eric Boehlert

Movie Mix:
The Yes Men: Pranksters Out to Fix the World
Mark Engler

Politics:
What Obama Is Up Against in His Own Branch of Government
Russ Baker

Reproductive Justice and Gender:
"Precious" Star Claims the Spotlight
Emily Wilson

Rights and Liberties:
Ugly Truth: Most U.S. Kids Sentenced to Die In Prison Are Black
Liliana Segura

Sex and Relationships:
9 Silly Things People Say When They Hear You Don't Want Kids (And Ways to Counter Them)
Liz Langley

Take Action:
G-20 Meetings: Nothing Much Happened in the Suites, and There Was Too Much Punch in the Streets
Laura Flanders

Water:
Radioactive Wastewater in New York Raises More Concerns About Oil Drilling
Abrahm Lustgarten

World:
Afghanistan Is Worse Off Than Ever, Thanks to the Sham Army We're Propping Up
Chris Hedges

More stories by Dean Baker

Advertisement
Upcoming AlterNet stories on Digg

The congressional budget office (CBO) releases its updated long-term projections for Medicare and Medicaid this week. They will almost certainly show a frightening story.

Healthcare costs in the United States are expected to hugely outpace the growth in income and inflation. When these increases are projected out over 50 or 100 years, the picture is very frightening indeed. In fact, many prominent politicians and political pundits have made a career out of scaring the public with these projections, warning of long-term budget deficits in excess of $70tn (approximately 7% of future GDP). Of course the scare stories usually neglect to point out that the vast majority of the projected deficit is due to our broken healthcare system.

While healthcare costs pose a problem everywhere, the United States really does stand out in having an incredibly inefficient healthcare system. Although we spend more than twice as much per person as the average in other wealthy countries, the United States ranks at or near the bottom in life expectancy, infant mortality rates and other key outcome measures. This gap continues to grow year by year. If the long-term trend in healthcare costs in the United States follows the path that has been projected by CBO and others, then the gap between the United States and other countries will reach hugely astounding levels in the not very distant future.

This gap suggests one obvious way to deal with this projected explosion of healthcare costs. If our political system is too corrupt to allow for meaningful healthcare reform in the United States, why not just let people get their healthcare from systems that work?

This actually would not be as hard to implement as it may first appear. The major government healthcare program is Medicare, which primarily serves a population of retirees. (Medicaid expenditures also disproportionately go the elderly.) Suppose that Medicare beneficiaries were given a voucher that allowed them to buy into the healthcare systems of other countries. (A simple quality control mechanism would be a requirement that the country must have a longer life expectancy than the United States.)

The voucher could be set at a level that is roughly halfway between the average cost of providing care for people over age 65 in other countries and the cost of providing care for that person under Medicare. If a beneficiary opts to take part in this Medicare Choice Plus programme then they use their voucher to buy into the healthcare system in Canada, Germany or any other country. They then pocket the difference between the value of the voucher and the cost of buying into these other countries' systems.

That difference could be serious money. According to calculations based on CBO projections, in 2040 a couple would be able to pocket more than $14,000 a year if they opted into the British healthcare system. By 2060, their projected pocket money from these vouchers would exceed $30,000 a year. Going out to 2080, a couple could earn themselves almost $70,000 a year if they chose to get their healthcare from the Spanish system (all numbers are in 2007 dollars).

People opting for a foreign healthcare system could decide to move to the country whose system they have chosen. Alternatively, they could stay in the United States, meeting routine medical expenses out of their voucher, and relying on the foreign healthcare system only for especially expensive procedures. The savings should be large enough that beneficiaries could incur substantial out-of-pocket expenses and still come out far ahead. In fact, the gap in projected healthcare costs between the United States and the rest of the world is so large that it would even be possible to ensure that other countries benefit as well by providing them with a premium of 10-20% above their costs. This would still leave room for enormous gains both to US taxpayers and to Medicare beneficiaries.

Of course the idea of Medicare beneficiaries flying around the world for healthcare is ridiculous. The rational solution is to fix the US healthcare system. However, if the healthcare industry owns so many members of Congress that a fix is not possible, then a few more medically motivated vacations is preferable to either axing Medicare altogether or bankrupting the country. Where are the free traders when we need them?

Digg!    Share on facebook   submit to reddit    Bookmark on Delicious   Stumble This  

See more stories tagged with: workplace, healthcare

Dean Baker is co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research.

Liked this story? Get top stories in your inbox each week from AlterNet! Sign up now »


Advertisement
Advertisement

 

Comments Turn comments off sitewide Give us feedback »
Comments closed.
The comments for this story have been closed. Thank you to everyone who participated.
View:
Brave new financial frontiers
Posted by: eddie torres on Nov 12, 2007 8:04 PM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
At 78 years average life expectancy, Americans can continue to poison and pollute the planet for an additional 12 years between retirement and death. In those 12 years, they will consume 25% more energy and 30% more resources than the average world citizen, plus hundreds of thousands of dollars in healthcare and emergency services.

If the value of these resources and services are collateralized against the slave labor servitude of 2 future generations of the seniors' offspring, and then securitized into a CDO, it can be rolled into tranches and sold as a financial instrument to international investors.

This new form of wealth is a "Constant Obligation Leveraged Originated Structured Oscillating Money Bridged Asset Guarantee" - or COLOStOMy BAG for short. "It's basically full of sh_t"

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Our present healthcare system is gonna die hard!!!
Posted by: Landbaron on Nov 14, 2007 12:48 AM   
Current rating: 2    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
So it'll take a few more years for universal healthcare...stupid republicans.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» Medicaid Posted by: gellero
» THE ONLY STUPID REPUBLICAN IS A Posted by: Raymond Emerson
why not go abroad..
Posted by: gellero on Nov 16, 2007 1:23 AM   
Current rating: 1    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Canada and UK regularly send patients to other countries for care, unless, of course, they die first.
And do the life expectancy stats include the 20 million illegals in this country?

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» RE: why not go abroad.. Posted by: El Hombre Malo
» WHY NOT FIX OUR SYSTEM? Posted by: HistArch
» RE: WHY NOT FIX OUR SYSTEM? Posted by: Cathyc
Not a particularly new idea
Posted by: akai ringo on Nov 16, 2007 5:31 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
As others have pointed out, there is nothing intrinsically new in the idea that citizens of one country should travel to another country to obtain medical treatment when time, cost and other factors combine to make this more feasible. British citizens have been traveling to India for some years now to have operations at a much lower cost than in their own country. With this in mind, I would take issue with the idea that recipient countries should have a longer life expectancy than the U.S. The inequality index is, I think, even higher in India than in the U.S., but they still have some first-class hospitals and doctors. There may well be other countries in a similar position, so perhaps this options is something that uninsured citizens of the U.S. may also care to look at. Just a thought.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

What A Great Idea - And I Could Maybe Get My Alt Med Covered!
Posted by: Liberty G on Nov 16, 2007 7:31 AM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Though it won't happen because it would take biz away from the ruling medical/corporate powerful, this would be a real help in solving the health disaster called the U.S. medical system.

Right now, of course, as a senior citizen I am basically banned from living in another country because my Medicare would not follow me - and I'm too old to be accepted by other national health care. However, it's actually not a bad option even without the great plan you propose to have surgery outside of the U.S. if needed.

Besides the obvious economic sense, I believe under your proposal, if I could opt in to another country's national health plan, I could get covered, as in England, for alternative medical care such as naturopathy and homeopathy (England has, I think, five homeopathic hospitals, all free to citizens there). One of the major reasons for our huge costs is that we go for expensive, high tech procedures (that often lead to more of the same because of serious side effects) and deny some inexpensive, alternative options.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

"The Hospital"--a prophetic 1971 movie
Posted by: zooeyhall on Nov 16, 2007 7:44 AM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I was wondering if anyone remembers a truly prophetic 1971 movie called "The Hospital". It was written by Paddy Chayefsky, and starred George C. Scott. The movie was a devastating expose of a callous and money-obsessed American medical system.

Some of the wonderful things in Paddy's movie: the greedy doctor more obsessed with his investments than treating patients, the researcher only interested in obtaining grant money, the shoving-away of the poor and those unable to pay.

There is a scene where Scott's character yells out an open window, what could be an epitath for the current state of affairs:

"We have established the most enormous medical entity ever conceived, and people are sicker then ever!!! We cure NOTHING! We heal NOTHING!"

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

I DON'T WANT TO BE OUTSOURCED,THANK YOU
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Nov 16, 2007 7:45 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Strange that when rich dignitaries from foreign countries need the "best medical care" they come here. That's because we have the finest medical care in the world. Problem is many of us can't afford it. Spending restrictions are forced on us and our doctors. But spending to maintain a permanent state of war has no limits and no real goal. Simply put, more $$ is spent to kill than to cure. There's more to it than diet and exercise. Thanks, ANNA

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

An interesting idea, but...
Posted by: sliva on Nov 16, 2007 2:34 PM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Why shouldn't Americans expect the same rights as other citizens in the developed world? Healthcare is not a privilege, it's a right. It's the responsibility of our government to provide its people with basic human rights, one of them being healthcare. Expecting the rest of the world to service the medical needs of the richest country in the world because of our inability to do so ourselves is arrogant and inefficient. We need to have higher expectations for what our government can become . WE need to make the change and stop thinking of the rest of the world as a super discount store where we can take whatever we want. Other countries have made the commitment and spent the money for healthcare - and so should we.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

FIGHT FOR YOUR COUNTRY
Posted by: HistArch on Nov 16, 2007 2:45 PM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
The reason our country is in the state it is is because of lazy, provincal attitudes like the one proposed by the author of this article. When something is broke, don't fix it. Just buy another and brake it too.

I don't know who Dean Baker is or what the Center for Economic Policy and Research is, but spreading ideas like "just go to Canada if you want health care" are not the solution. If all the people who do pay into the system pull out: health care will get worse for those still in the system and politicians are let off the hook in upholding what we righfully deserve.

My solution is:

-Take care of yourself- eat right, exercise, get enough sleep, take vitamins, brush and floss... Do everything in your power to prevent from getting sick.

-Don't just take whatever medicine you are prescribed by corporate huckster docs. Get a second opinion and look at what medicines are buying off your doc (usually all you have to do is look at the clipboard you fill out your medical history on).

-Vote out every single politician who doesn't openly advocate for national health care. If they don't care enough about you, don't care about them.

-Always try homeopathic and naturopathic remedies before you buy BigPharma quackery. They base their medicines on naturally occurring plants so just get the plants.

-Look for your free local clinic and go there for initial diagnosis. If there are no free local clinics, you need new politicians.

Take power into your own hands. Stop retreating and fight for your country.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» amen brother Posted by: mont
Only in America ...
Posted by: TheLimit on Nov 16, 2007 5:31 PM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
What kind of mind assumes that if I can't afford the surgery, I can afford to fly out to a different country and pay out of pocket for it there? This approach is going to save me how much?

This is very like the rest of the American mindset: JQP can do anything the gumment requires of him. If you retire a guy, and his wife is not eligible for retirement (hey, in most couples the wife is older, right? She's already eligible, right? No?), they send out a COBRA packet, so she can be signed up to pay the insurance out of pocket. That the rate is approximately the same as the mortgage payment, and the household income has just been cut in half (or more) should present no problem apparently.

This is tantamount to telling a guy who has broken his bicycle that now he must buy a Mercedes.

It would really be very funny if it weren't for the fact that it wholly obscures the fact that people who can't afford health insurance mostly have little if any disposable income to be flying all over the world chasing medical care.

Oh .. any why should other countries be pleased to be exploited this way anyway? Their citizens have anted up for their own health care, not to take in poverty stricken Americans.

How to win friends and influence people ...

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» RE: Only in America ... Posted by: Cathyc
How Long Will It Be Affordable
Posted by: bcgirl125 on Nov 16, 2007 8:50 PM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
to buy healthcare in another country at the rate the US dollar is dropping? Outsourcing healthcare, all ethical and civic objections aside, will become uneconomical for Americans. Sorry folks, but you have to take care of your own.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» RE: How Long Will It Be Affordable Posted by: richholland
Broke
Posted by: geriatricBen on Nov 16, 2007 9:46 PM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
3 years ago I went to a dentist to have my teeth fixed and I need an upper denture,after spending
over 8 thousand dollars thats the only time the dentist started talking about denture and he wanted another $4500 to complete the work,I stop
seeing the dentist and decided to fly to a third world country,spend $600 for plane ticket and $340
for my porcelain denture. Tell me whats so ridiculous about that.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

What makes him ASSUME Canada WANTS YOU?
Posted by: Prairie Waif on Nov 16, 2007 10:37 PM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
What a guy. I bet he'd be the first pundit on the Sunday Round-tables mouthing off about how unfeasible it is to institute a USA National Heath Care Policy and yet he is willing to "Shock and Awe," "Liberate," and "Occupy" Canada's and any other nation wise enough to have woken up to the benefits to their economy and citizens of having a national program.

Not a chance. As an American who has been a dual-citizen from birth and moved to Canada 25 years ago to live with my maternal Grandmother, I cannot ever imagine going back to the USA and it's system.

This summer I had surgery, it turned out that I have a genetic clotting disorder and I spent most of the summer in and out of the hospital; the service was efficient, pleasant and I saw numerous specialist on one days notice, as I had to travel from a rural area. In the USA, the cost would have exceeded over $150,000 as I spent 5 nights going to ER, 1 weekend in ER observation with IV drip Antibiotics, the 4 surgeries by a specialist, 3 months of home-care TWICE a day, blood tests, weekly visits to my family physician to see how things were going between visits to the specialist, and a trip to be typed for a blood transfusion.

In Canada, we are MORE THAN WILLING TO SHARE THE COST ON OUR TAXES. Why? Because when I see my University friend get Brain Cancer at 28, with a 2 year-old at home, I don't want to see soup cans with her photo on them begging for money at the cash register at the Piggly Wiggly, the Club Grocery, Albertsons, and every other place of business I see this in town after town in the USA.

Do you NOT THINK IT DEHUMANIZING to have to throw a PIG ROAST to buy your child a round of chemotherapy?

What is wrong with your values?

Not only THAT, but those of you who have HMO's or insurance are NO BETTER OFF than those WHO DO NOT. Why? Because every time your carrier is switched, so is whom you can attain healthcare from (i.e. New Doctor, knows nothing about you or your case history), how is that HEALTH CARE? I have had the same physician for over 10 years.

And you say that EVEN HAVING INSURANCE IS A BENEFIT? That would be humorous if it wasn't so deadly.

Maybe while the country is spreading the blood of the vital troops across the mid-east it helps to have a "FEEL GOOD" story about how a town "Rallied around "Darlene" to raise $12,134.83 toward her Heart By-pass Surgery."

Now THAT IS A COUNTRY who's heart bleeds for something, just what, where and who is it?

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

why poor people will be poor for ever
Posted by: richholland on Nov 17, 2007 6:04 PM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
in wintertime I live in Chiangmai, Thailand.
Many years ago this country was known for sextourisme, nowadays this is legally forbidden.
The thai government promotes MEDICAL tourisme'
turn key projects including hotels and hospitals and recouvering weeks.
I spent 1 week in Mc.Cormick with infected glands, the total bill: US$ 360, including specialists, scan, pharmacy and delicious Thai food. (Hamburgers and Pizza costs $15 a week more)

If you are poor are still want to die for your country you are no PATRIOT but a masochist.
A heart operation = $ 7500,
Of course the USA have a superior system especially for the RICH,so dictators and kings will sometimes come to the States because they can afford it.
In Thailand my wife has a medical card for the doctor and the hospital in her municipality; third class FREE OF CHARGE.
If you have a Non Tourist visa you can be insured for medical costs.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

  • AlterNetYour turn

Support AlterNet
Do you value the information you're getting from AlterNet? Please show your support with a tax-deductible donation.


Feedback
Tell us how we're doing.

Advertisement
Advertisement