Like that other brave man,rocker Ted Nuggent
do think the both of them have not balls for
a real hunt,something like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRFsQe9T_KM

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I am more horrified than ever about the evil puppetmaster behind this "war" in Iraq. He is truly twisted. The word 'bloodlust' comes to mind. The "man" who had "other priorities" during the Viet Nam war readily sent our finest into the hellhole uranium depleted sands of Mesopotamia. I think that during one of his heart attacks he really died, but was given the option of more life by Beelzebub....only Bub had a few things he wanted to do while in control of DeadEye Dick's body....little things like WWIII, Armegeddon, the destruction of everything America used to stand for, little things like that. If there is a hell, there is a special place reserved for that blood crazed maniac. He was probably a child who tore the wings off flies and stuck lit firecrackers into frogs' mouths, only he never grew out of it. Embodiment of evil? You decide....

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The articles makes the point why Cheney has no business being in such a position of power and needs to be removed. Others who defend this man and call him honorable are deluded. But the truth of it is that Cheney is a common man, an ignorant man in the wrong place at the wrong time in American history and needs to go. Quickly, before it's too late. Don't give him a chance to leave peacably in January of 2009. There is a form http://www.democrats.com/impeach-cheney-congressional-record everyone can fill out online for those who support Dick Cheney's impeachment. This will support Kucinick's drive to get him out. The initiative he started may have been put to the side for now but it's not over. This is doable, if the people once and for all will get their heads out of their ...

Pointless

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His former childhood playmates love to recount the story about how, as a young boy, the First Fool used to love to catch frogs at a creek near his home, stuff two or three firecrackers dowb their throats, and blow the little darlings to smithereens in mid-air. Gratuitous cruelty to small animals: the one common childhood denominator of most mass murdereds (You see where I'm going with this, don't you? I knew you would). Seriously: is anyone surprised that the VP likes to kill defenseless little birdies?

And while we're on the subject, the fact is Dick Cheney has been having sex with a blow-up doll for decades now. Have you ever taken a real close look at Lynn?

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
With Democrats Like These...

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during the Vietnam War.

These neo-com pigs sicken me...................

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Remember now, it's because he can't shoot wild animals without shooting his hunting partner that they don't let him off the farm now. Just be glad he's now contained on the farm with the rest of the bird brains!
I agree....only a pathetic person would enjoy such hunting...this is no surprise...

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wh ydoes this surprise you since he likes to murder people in middle eastern countries by the umpteen thousands, alos likes to shoot his hunting partners too.

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is there something wrong with having sex with blow up dolls?

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If Mr.Chaney like shooting so much lets send him to Iraq

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What more can be said about a person who would treat a life with such disrespect. I hope some day this pitiful excuse for a human being gets what he deserves and I'm alive to see it. I'd like to keep him crammed in a cage for a couple of years with a goggle over his sick face and then kick his ass to try and make him fly. Same with those disgusting people who would provide such a revolting form of entertainment (?). All that suffering just to make a buck. Shame on anyone involved in such a disgusting form of cruelty. This is a time when an eye for an eye is warranted.

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We all know Dick Cheney should be spending time in prison rather than hunting but since the Democrats didn't have the courage to back Kucinich that isn't going to happen. The hunting attacks are indicitive of PETA nuts running around lamenting the hunting of any animal. It just shows that some people really need to get a life. As for the Confederate Flag, well People really need to go get a serious history lesson. Al Sharpton and Pat Robertson have two things in common. They both pretend to be reverends and they are both frauds.

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If the sick bastard wants to hunt penned birds, well, that's his perogative as a sick bastard. But why should taxpayers foot the bills for transportation, security, etc.? I'd like to know who paid the actual fees for the hunts. Could be misappropriation of public funds.

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No. No. Hunting is not at all like having sex. Yes, there is a real or faux hunt or chase. Yes, there is a gun. Yes, there is an explosion. Yes, some guys smoke apres event. No, hunting is not like sex. Hunting is like getting your kicks out of killing defenseless animals. Cheney would do less harm having sex with sheep... if he could find one that would have him.

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If people want to prove their expertise at shotgun shooting, why not take up the olympic sport of clay pidgeon, or skeet shooting?

The sport of game shooting in the USA is a sad industry. Birds are raised on farms, and either let loose for phoney hunters like Cheney to shoot very easily, or they have their necks broken or are decapitated to be sold in supermarkets.

My guess as to the reason for this is that to raise game birds in the wild requires the hiring of game keepers, to protect the birds from animal predators (Pheasants are notoriously stupid birds), or poachers. Gamekeepers are relatively skilled, and have to work loong hours, demanding more pay than those who will take a "McJob" to feed birds in cages. There also seem to be some very wierd laws about, preventing the selling of game which has been shot to the public.

American pheasants are not usually good to eat, since they are not left hanging up to age before being plucked and drawn. The best ones I have had west of the pond have been shot by friends who have given them to me with guts and feathers, so I could age and dress them myself. Of course, in Europe, they still do employ gamekeepers, and pheasant shooting is an expensive sport, but you can buy hunted birds which have been aged before sale by licenced game dealers.

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Dick Cheyney didn't go out to hunt. He went out to kill. But that's not news.

There is no real challenge to the kind of hunting Dick Cheyney participates in, no real sport.

He just likes to kill.

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Like all bullies, he's pathetic.

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“Valley Rod & Gun Club” (she said rod, but seriously folks, what’s going on with those “diverted school buses”?)

“…small Confederate flag hanging inside a garage on the hunt club property, which prompted civil rights leader Rev. Al Sharpton to demand that Cheney "leave immediately, denounce the club and apologize for going to a club that represents lynching, hate and murder to black people.” Isn’t the club a private organization, and not unlike the Boy Scouts discriminating against homosexuals, the Constitution protects that right. As to whether Al and others feel Cheney should take that stance, I see little point in attempting to force Cheney to do anything he doesn’t care about, and you know he doesn’t care what we think so Al is grandstanding again…

“Some hunters say shooting the pellet-ready tame animals, which offer no resistance, is like having sex with a blow-up doll.” Is this supposed to mean that these hunters speak from personal experience? “Well, it’s kinda like having sex with them blow-up dolls, but I really get off killing thangs” (Southern accent not unintentional).

“…despite all the "negative publicity it has generated for him" suggests a deep psychological disorder… and “…criminologists have long recognized that premeditated, sadistic treatment of animals is a strong predictor of criminal and homicidal violence.” Sorry, but I think the author has this backwards; the killing of people half a world away runs concurrent to killing animals. His full support of this type of killing is worse than the killing of animals, or the way animals are killed, for pleasure or food, is still killing, but we already know Dick doesn’t care about anything except himself and his family. I’d say he does care about his family and nothing else.

By the way, hasn't anyone realized that it takes a certain type of personality (disorder) to be this type of success?

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The type of "hunting" practiced by Cheney and his cronies is, of course, not hunting at all. It's like shooting fish in a barrel, which is also not fishing or hunting either. The entire thing is disgusting.

I also understand the antipathy many people feel toward killing animals for food. However, I do not sympathize with those who eat meat but don't like the idea of hunting for it - as if someone else's raising and killing animals for food is somehow more moral than killing it yourself. (No one here has expressed this sentiment, but I run into it more often than one can imagine.)

Here in my part of West Virginia, there were no deer for a long time. I have an acquaintance who is now in his early 60s. He told me that, although he lived in a very rural area, he never saw a deer until he was at least 10 years old. That would have been around 1955. Aerial photos show that in the first half of this century, all the land around Rockport, where I now live, had been clear cut. There were no trees at all for a time.

Since then, woods have been allowed to grow back and the deer population has exploded along with turkeys, rabbits, and other wildlife. I believe deer were reintroduced sometime ago, but there are few natural predators to go with them. There are coyotes (or more likely coydogs), but they are certainly not enough to make a dent in the thousands of deer that inhabit the woods and fields.

The deer are now so prevalent, they are not only a nuisance to rural landowners, they have come into the cities and towns, and residents find them grazing in their backyards. It's virtually impossible to have any kind of garden without fences. They have even been known to come onto people's porches to eat their flowers from planters!

Without natural predators, overpopulation of deer makes them weak, small, and often unhealthy. Perhaps the answer to the problem is to bring in wolves, wildcats, or other carnivores. But I'm not sure I believe that's very different from hunting to thin the herds. (I'm sure many vegetarians will disagree with this premise and say that we should set ourselves apart from predatory animals. I concede this point to those who eat no meat at all.)

In any case, humans have interfered with nature to the point where nature often cannot take care of itself. I have no problem with anyone hunting on my property - in fact, I welcome it - and I certainly am more than willing to accept their gifts of venison in return. It keeps the deer population down to a more managable level, it provides food for my friends and me, and it is not the same kind of sadistic, mindless activity as that practiced by Cheney and his ilk.

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Does anyone remember how this sadistic SOB got the job of Vice President ? He was chosen to evaluate running mates for the Dufus Gov of Texas as EVERYONE felt the Doofus would NEED an experienced hand beside him ESPECIALLY in areas concerning Foreign Policy .
After an EXHAUSTIVE search it turned out that the perfect man to select for the job was : well that guy doing the SELECTING . What a DEAL !!
There then came a slight manner that the President and Vice President can NOT be from the smae state which quite frankly was a surprize to ME as well as to DICKLESS who had to hurridly leave Texas .
The sad part is that at ONE point Cheney actually seemed to have it RIGHT about Invading Iraq . He made a great case in defending Poppy Buh's decision NOT to persue a broken Iraqi Army as they retreated from Kuwait . He even acknowledged that removing Saddam was not WORTH the lives of American Servicemen . Funny how GREED changes one's once sound vision .

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"But others say hunting itself is like sex with a blow up doll and that the 10 percent decline in hunters seen in the United States since the late '90s -- from 14 million to about 12.5 million -- coincides exactly with the debut of impotence drugs like Viagra."

There are a lot of us that see hunting as an affordable and responsible way to feed yourself and your family. I also find it enjoyable despite my lack of sociopathic tendencies. Analogies like this are pure horse-shit from dumb city-dwellers that don't understand the realities of rural living. Hunting is how a lot of people survive in the U.S.

With that being said the idea of paying thousands of dollars to go shoot some birds sounds pretty outlandish to me as well.

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Remember George W put firecrackers in frogs and blew them up when he was a little boy!

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Reports from police case files:

Russell Weston Jr., tortured and killed 12 cats: burned and cut off their tails, paws, ears; poured toxic chemicals in their eyes to blind them; forced them to ingest poison, hung them from trees (the noose loose enough to create a slow and painful death.) Later killed 2 officers at the U.S. Capitol in Washington, DC.

Jeffery Dahmer staked cats to trees and decapitated dogs. Later he dissected boys, and kept their body parts in the refrigerator. Murdered 17 men.

Kip Kinkle shot 25 classmates and killed several in Springfield, Oregon. He killed his father and mother. Said he blew up a cow once. Set a live cat on fire and dragged the innocent creature through the main street of town. Classmates rated him as "Most Likely to Start WWIII.

As a boy, Albert De Salvo, the "Boston Strangler," placed a dog and cat in a crate with a partition between them. After starving the animals for days, he removed the partition to watch them kill each other. He raped and killed 13 women by strangulation. He often posed bodies in a shocking manner after their murders.

Richard Allen Davis set numerous cats on fire. He killed all of Polly Klaus' animals before abducting and murdering Polly Klaus, aged 12, from her bedroom.

11-year-old Andrew Golden and 13-year-old Mitchell Johnson tortured and killed dogs. On March 24, 1998, in Jonesboro, Arkansas, Golden and Johnson shot and killed 4 students and 1 teacher during a fire drill at their school.

After 16-year-old Luke Woodham mortally stabbed his mother, killed 2 classmates and shot 7 others, he confessed to bludgeoning his dog Sparkle with baseball bats and pouring liquid fuel down her throat and to set fire to her neck. "I made my first kill today," he wrote in his court-subpoenaed journal. "It was a loved one...I'll never forget the howl she made. It sounded almost human." In June 1998, Woodham was found guilty of 3 murders and 7 counts of aggravated assault. He was sentenced to 3 life sentences and an additional 20 years for each assault.

Theodore Robert Bundy, executed in 1989 for at least 50 murders, was forced to witness a grandfather who tortured animals. Bundy later heaped graves with animal bones.

At 4-years-old, Michael Cartier dislocated the legs of rabbits and hurled a kitten through a closed window. He later shot Kristin Lardner 3 times in the head, before shooting himself.

Henry Lee Lucas killed numerous animals and had sex with their corpses. He killed his mother, common law wife, and an unknown number of people.

Edward Kemperer cut up 2 cats. He later killed his grandparents, mother and 7 other women.

Richard Speck threw a bird into a ventilator fan. Killed 8 women.

Randy Roth taped a cat to a car's engine and used an industrial sander on a frog. Killed 2 of his wives and attempted to kill a third.

David Richard Davis shot and killed 2 healthy ponies, threw a wine bottle at a pair of kittens and hunted with illegal methods. Murdered his wife, Shannon Mohr Davis, for insurance money.

Peter Kurten, the Dusseldorf Monster, tortured dogs, and practiced bestiality while killing animals. Murdered or attempted to murder over 50 men, women and children.

Richard Trenton Chase, "The Vampire Killer of Sacramento," bit the heads off birds, drained animals for their blood, killed animals for their organs, and later killed 6 people in random attacks. One police officer present at the scene of the first murder, confessed to having nightmares about the crime for months afterwards.

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It's no coincidence that America gleefully outlaws real cures for peace and happiness while at the same time vigorously defending massive amounts of firearms, fastfood loaded with DANGEROUS CHEMICALS, and drugs with VIOLENTLY DANGEROUS side effects !

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but I don't see much difference in the suffering of these animals killed by Cheney and the suffering of the animals that end up on your dinner plate each night. Ummm...big brown juicy turkey....

Think of Cheney when you're sucking the meat off the bones.

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Richard William Leonard's grandmother forced him to kill and mutilate cats and kittens when he was a child. He later killed Stephen Dempsey with a bow and arrow. He also killed Ezzedine Bahmad by slashing his throat.

Tom Dillion murdered people's pets. He shot and killed Jamie Paxton, aged 21; Claude Hawkins, aged 49; Donald Welling, aged 35; Kevin Loring, aged 30; and Gary Bradely, aged 44.

At 9-years-old, Eric Smith strangled a neighbor's cat. At 13, he bludgeoned 4-year-old Derrick Robie to death. Smith lured the little boy into the woods, choked him, sodomized him with a stick, then beat him to death with a rock.

David Berkowitz, "Son of Sam," poisoned his mother's parakeet out of jealousy. He later shot 13 young men and women. 6 people died and at least 2 suffered permanent disabilities.

Arthur Shawcross repeatedly threw a kitten into a lake until the kitten drowned from exhaustion. Killed a young girl. After serving 15-1/2 years in prison, he killed 11 more women.

Michael Perry decapitated a neighbor's dog. Later killed his parents, infant nephew and 2 neighbors.

Jason Massey's killing resume began with cats and dogs; at 20 he decapitated and disemboweled a 13-year-old girl and fatally shot a 14-year old boy. He claims to have killed 37 cats, 29 dogs and 6 cows.

Patrick Sherrill stole neighborhood pets, tethered them with baling wire and encouraged his dog to mutilate them. He killed 14 co-workers and himself in 1986.

Keith Hunter Jesperson, "Happy Face Killer," bashed gopher heads and beat, strangled and shot stray cats and dogs. He is known to have strangled 8 women. He said: "You're actually squeezing the life out of these animals...Choking a human being or a cat--it's the same feeling...I'm the very end result of what happens when somebody kills an animal at an early age."

Carroll Edward Cole, executed in 1985 for an alleged 35 murders and reputed to be one of the most prolific serial killers in U.S. history, confessed that his first act of violence was to strangle a puppy under the porch of his house.

Robert Alton Harris murdered two 16-year-old boys, doused a neighbor with lighter fluid and tossed matches at him. His initial run-in with police was for killing neighborhood cats.

Where does the slippery slope begin? A Soviet study, published in Ogonyok, found that over 87 percent of a group of violent criminals had, as children, burned, hanged or stabbed domestic animals. An American study by Dr. Stephen Kellert of Yale found that children who abuse animals have a much higher likelihood of becoming violent criminals.

A 1997 study by the Massachusetts Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (MSPCA) reported that children convicted of animal abuse are five times more likely to commit violence against other humans than their peers, and four times more likely to be involved against acts of property.

Rachel Carson wrote:

"Until we have the courage to recognize cruelty for what it is whether its victim is human or animal we cannot expect things to be much better in this world. We cannot have peace among men whose hearts delight in killing any living creature. By every act that glorifies or even tolerates such moronic delight in killing we set back the progress of humanity."

Cesar Chavez similarly observed:

"Kindness and compassion towards all living things is a mark of a civilized society. Conversely, cruelty, whether it is directed against human beings or against animals, is not the exclusive province of any one culture or community of people. Racism, economic deprival, dog fighting and cockfighting, bullfighting and rodeos are cut from the same fabric: violence. Only when we have become nonviolent towards all life will we have learned to live well ourselves"

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...like screwing a blow up doll... or raping a country kept numb by vapid media sponsored by big drug companies.

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Everything about this scene - the armed caravan, the caged victims, the secrecy - shows a man who is viciously unstable, having lost the basic sense of respect for life.

He is the one who should be in the cage, and when justice is finally served, he will be.

However incompetent Bush may be, he is certainly not served by this kind of example.

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Wouldn't it be the perfect solution to just let him go to Iraq and participate in the continuous murder of innocent people? Except, that of course the citizens of Iraq probably aren't as tame and "domesticated" as the pheasants in New York...

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Would you expect anything else from america's dick.

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. . . Not the disease.

Even at $120,000 a day for this sick entertainment Cheney is not supporting the whole industry of shooting farm birds with goggles. We are in deep doodoo in this country and we can't blame it all on Bush and Cheney

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It occurs to me that this kind of emporwerment has degenerated to the lowest leve possible in torturing captive prisoners.

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You know what they say about "birds of a feather"...

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Excerpt from Trance-Formation of America by Cathy O'Brien and Mark Phillips

Dick Cheney, then White House Chief of Staff to President Ford, later Secretary of Defense to President George Bush, documented member of the Council on Foreign relations (CFR), and Presidential hopeful for 1996, was originally Wyoming's only Congressman. Dick Cheney was the reason my family had traveled to Wyoming where I endured yet another form of brutality -- his version of "A Most Dangerous Game," or human hunting.

It is my understanding now that A Most Dangerous Game was devised to condition military personnel in survival and combat maneuvers. Yet it was used on me and other slaves known to me as a means of further conditioning the mind to the realization there was "no place to hide," as well as traumatize the victim for ensuing programming. It was my experience over the years that A Most Dangerous Game had numerous variations on the primary theme of being stripped naked and turned loose in the wilderness while being hunted by men and dogs. In reality, all "wilderness" areas were enclosed in secure military fencing whereby it was only a matter of time until I was caught, repeatedly raped, and tortured.

Dick Cheney had an apparent addiction to the "thrill of the sport." He appeared obsessed with playing A Most Dangerous Game as a means of traumatizing mind control victims, as well as to satisfy his own perverse sexual kinks. My introduction to the game occurred upon arrival at the hunting lodge near Greybull, Wyoming, and it physically and psychologically devastated me. I was sufficiently traumatized for Cheney's programming, as I stood naked in his hunting lodge office after being hunted down and caught. Cheney was talking as he paced around me, "I could stuff you and mount you like a jackalope and call you a two legged dear. Or I could stuff you with this (he unzipped his pants to reveal his oversized penis) right down your throat, and then mount you. Which do you prefer?"

Blood and sweat became mixed with the dirt on my body and slid like mud down my legs and shoulder. I throbbed with exhaustion and pain as I stood unable to think to answer such a question. "Make up your mind," Cheney coaxed. Unable to speak, I remained silent. "You don't get a choice, anyway. I make up your mind for you. That's why you're here. For me to make you a mind, and make you mine/mind. You lost your mind a long time ago. Now I'm going to give you one. Just like the Wizard (of Oz) gave Scarecrow a brain, the Yellow Brick Road led you here to me. You've 'come such a long, long way' for your brain, and I will give you one."

The blood reached my shoes and caught my attention. Had I been further along in my programming, I perhaps would never have noticed such a thing or had the capability to think to wipe it away. But so far, I had only been to MacDill and Disney World for government/military programming. At last, when I could speak, I begged, "If you don't mind, can I please use your bathroom?"

Cheney's face turned red with rage. He was on me in an instant, slamming my back into the wall with one arm across my chest and his hand on my throat, choking me while applying pressure to the carotid artery in my neck with his thumb. His eyes bulged and he spit as he growled, "If you don't mind me, I will kill you. I could kill you -- Kill you -- with my bare hands. You're not the first and you won't be the last. I'll kill you any time I goddamn well please." He flung me on the cot-type bed that as behind me. There he finished taking his rage out on me sexually.

On the long trip back to Michigan, I lay in a heap behind the seats of the Suburban, nauseated and hurting from Cheney's brutality and high voltage tortures, plus the whole Wyoming experience. My father stopped by the waterfalls flowing through the Tetons to "wash my brain" of the memory of Cheney.

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What's new about politicians shooting tame or prepared animals? T.R. Roosevelt got his nickname "Teddy" after shooting a tame bear in Lousiana. And the King of Spain last year bagged a drunken bear in Siberia.

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why isn't this?

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Okay, so Cheney's busy getting all the media attention for a stupid hunting trip.
The thing is this is not a stupid man, Cheney is a dangerous, media shy, sociopath.
He is a master of using the news machine for his evil purposes.
If he is in the public eye it is for a reason, the media should be looking around for the real news right about now.

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After seeing what these neocons have done to our country and the world-at-large over the past 5+ years I could cry. As many of the posters have pointed out this kind of behavior shows deep psychological cracks and certainly lack of any compassion for animals OR people.

I think, in the future and for our future - we need to have ALL presidential/vice presidential candidates take the Myers-Briggs test or some psychological test that will forewarn us of monsters in our midst.

It's unimaginable but true that the dysfunctions of a family (georgie-boy and poppy and vicious babs) should play out on the world stage to the point of destroying the world.

And Americans still sleepwalk through all this crap and DO NOTHING!

Here's a link that I hope all will read and take action on:

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org:80/?q=node/28179

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After seeing what these neocons have done to our country and the world-at-large over the past 5+ years I could cry. As many of the posters have pointed out this kind of behavior shows deep psychological cracks and certainly lack of any compassion for animals OR people.

I think, in the future and for our future - we need to have ALL presidential/vice presidential candidates take the Myers-Briggs test or some psychological test that will forewarn us of monsters in our midst.

It's unimaginable but true that the dysfunctions of a family (georgie-boy and poppy and vicious babs) should play out on the world stage to the point of destroying the world.

And Americans still sleepwalk through all this crap and DO NOTHING!

Here's a link that I hope all will read and take action on:

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org:80/?q=node/28179

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Who refused to shoot a bear that had been tied to a tree.

But then again, the neo-conmen who run today's Republican party are a long way from respected leaders like Teddy and Ike.

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TOTALLY ignorant of the realities of it.
I live in WI.
I have hunted and fished all of my life.
EVERYWHERE you go here, you see dead deer lying on the road or the side of the road.
I used to grow prize roses till I got so fed up with the dmn deer eating the buds that I quit.
I drvie a lot in my business and, when I'm around the city limits and out of town, very often I have to stop and wait till a tom leads his hens across the road.
Twice I've had to wait for this procession before hitting an approach shot to a green.
I NEVER take anything which I don't eat.
We have red squirrels here.
They are absolutely destructive to homes and other things.
I had a bunch of them around my house one year and had to repair damage they had done.
I went to the DNR and got a livetrap.
I trapped the squirrels one at a time and let them loose at a neighbor's house who was the neighborhood butthole.
That felt good.

About hunting: I haven't hunted in several years.
We used to have a group of about 8-10 of us who got together to deer hunt every year.
Well, we all moved apart and, only real hunters will understand what THAT took out of the pleasures of hunting.
I also used to hunt grey squirrels.
They're good in a stew with partridge.
I always used my 10/22 for them.
I enjoyed the ambience and, there was NEVER any pleasure in "killing" whether it was a deer, squirrel or any other animal I'd take to eat.
In fact, for the ignorant here, there is actually a sadness in killing a deer that only real hunters will understand.
I can't believe that there are some who are so into their fantasy existence that they even want to force others to stop fishing.
I would bet they've never had the pleasure of eating a bluegill, walleye, trout, perch or any other freshly caught fish.
I could almost LIVE on bluegills alone.

There is a saying, "You are what you eat".
Well, there are obviously some who have "vegetated".

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"the 10 percent decline in hunters seen in the United States since the late '90s -- from 14 million to about 12.5 million -- coincides exactly with the debut of impotence drugs like Viagra."
That explains it all, due to Cheney's heart condition, he is not able to take Viagra®, Cialis® or the others, hence he must resort to killing things, in order to quell his frustration with his limp pecker.

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I had the misfortune to fly Riley Bechtel of the Bechtel Corp (a HUGE Republican contributor, and recipient of many no-bid contracts) and his party on a dove hunting trip to Mexico. That's right...doves...the symbol of peace worldwide. Bechtel and his crew flew to a remote private ranch in Baja, where their Mexican staff made tacos out of the doves they shot, and pitchers of Margheritas for the reveling monsters.

I flew another group of California Republicans to a duck hunting lodge near - of all places - the Salton Sea, where the "King of Romaine Lettuce" had a huge farm and a duck hunting blind. Why was the hunting so good? Adjacent to the farm, and near the duck blind, was a wildlife refuge. The "hunters" would blast the birds coming and going from the refuge. As long as the birds landed outside the refuge, it was perfectly legal.

These people are greedy, soulless, assholes with no concept of the world outside of their own little sphere. It just appalling.

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It goes without saying, what does this mean for America and American domestic and foreign policy? We all know that our President is not exactly on top of things and "Dick" is really said to be "running things." Well, Dick is not exactly just another whacko who needs some good mental health. He is Vice President of the United States. Put this in the context of what America is and has now become. We have an unprovoked war in Iraq now and thousands have been killed, and other disturbing thins, like it is now somehow "legal" for the government to eavesdrop on you, even without a warrant, and "waterboarding" is not really "torture" at all, just some "fun" as the interrogator gets some "good secrets" out of the bad guys. We could go on and on, like how Haliburton, Dick's old mainstay, is such a good company as it drives around empty trucks in Iraq with the government billed millions for such an important service. But hey, this shoot-em-up thing that Dick likes, it just reflects the sound personal and ethical judgement a world leader really needs! And, waterboarding is really not torture either says Dick!

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"liken it to having sex with a blow-up doll"
Man, I love that line. Thanks for sharing.

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.. Please be kind to Mr. Cheney - he simply enjoys MURDER..

.. Nothing simpler and more efficient to get that KILLER FIX than shooting animal in a cage.. I wonder whether he uses lights to blind them and freeze them in their place so his "HIT" is gar-un-teed ?..

.. It doesn't matter whether armed combatants, civilians, children or caged animals, or hunting companions, he's really just a killer at heart..

.. MURDER !.. MURDER ! .. DICK'S OUR MAN ! .. IF HE CAN'T KILL THEM NO ONE CAN !..

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...penis Mr. Cheney must have.

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... should be changed to the right to arm bears.

Or even better, sport hunters should be put on a range, then stalk and kill each other. There's your natural selection, and finally a reason to wear their stupid little camo outfits.

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"Mahatma Gandhi said, "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated."

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n/p

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Bad analogy. As far as I know, blow-up dolls do not feal pain, fear or, as is apparent in most animals, love.

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He's a sick fu*k, what more can u say?

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This is low grade journalism: others say hunting itself is like sex with a blow up doll and that the 10 percent decline in hunters seen in the United States since the late '90s -- from 14 million to about 12.5 million -- coincides exactly with the debut of impotence drugs like Viagra.

But then again, it is The Alternet.

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Certainly Cheney does not derive sexual pleasure from hunting, No matter what you whack jobs say. The practice of hunting domestic birds isn't all that uncommon either. It isn't just the "deranged" Vice President doing it, sorry to say. Are all the other hunters sadists too???

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....now go out and try your skills at a untamed insurgent and al-qaida birds-that can shoot back!

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between this type of "hunting" and dogfighting or cockfighting? In the former, it is humans killing penned up animals, instead of penned up animals killing one another. Money changes hands and the male thirst for bloodsport is fulfilled. Where is the 24-hour news coverage of the outrage over Cheney's "sporting" habits? Unless our sadistic VP is serving lots of little fowl for Thanksgiving, instead of the traditional 30 lb. turkey, he is not a hunter, and he is no better than those who fight dogs or roosters for the "fun of it."

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Why should we be surprised that someone who would cause the deaths of 4000 US soldiers and a million Iraqis (mostly women and children), disappear and torture people (some of them to death), drive 4.5 million Iraqis into exile and destitution, deny hundreds of thousands of children health insurance and saddle future generations with unpayable debt and an uninhabitable planet would get a thrill from blasting a lot of defenseless, harmless creatures?

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Martha said, "But others say hunting itself is like sex with a blow up doll and that the 10 percent decline in hunters seen in the United States since the late '90s -- from 14 million to about 12.5 million -- coincides exactly with the debut of impotence drugs like Viagra."

That may be true, but it has often been said that liberal anti-hunting columnists are so busy having sex with their pets that they can hardly find the time to make up absurd data about hunters. As a matter of fact, nine out of ten pet store owners will not even sell them a hamster.

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One of the spiritual masters of the twentieth century used to say that one is not automatically born with a soul but that through reflection, meditation and being open to the poetry of life that the soul can be born.
Certainly less sensitivity and soul in Cheney than in the average pheasant.
Makes you wonder about Bush too.
As for the psychological dimensions the psychopathy of both is very plain.

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One of the spiritual masters of the twentieth century used to say that one is not automatically born with a soul but that through reflection, meditation and being open to the poetry of life that the soul can be born.
Certainly less sensitivity and soul in Cheney than in the average pheasant.
Makes you wonder about Bush too.
As for the psychological dimensions the psychopathy of both is very plain.

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The discrete and erotic charms of the Bourgeoisie!

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There are so many other things to be concerned of, in this world. Martha Rosenberg, you must be lonely in your little world, and your article is useless.

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The author, perhaps understandably has missed some important details. He has assumed that this was a hunt in the conventional style with people and dogs walking the fields in search of birds.

As a hunter I think I can tell you that this was not this type of hunt. The only way to achieve these types of numbers is in a "European style hunt" which in my opinion is not a hunt at all.

Euro-hunts were popular among the royalty in Europe for centuries since they did not require any effort or actual hunting. The birds are lifted to the top of a tower and simply dropped onto a waiting phalanx of shooters. The pen raise birds have probably never flown before and at best glide a ways before being shot. The shooting party simply stands around sipping drinks and taking turns at slaughtering the hapless birds.

I know Cheney likes this because he attended just such a hunt here in Wisconsin as a fund raiser for failed Congressional candidate John Gard and it was covered in specific detail by the media which is probably why these people are not talking about it. It did not go over well with the folks around here.

I agree that this guy is a pretty sick SOB and and I think its significant that he would tend to like the idea of a style of hunting reserved for the despots of Europe.

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What an utterly despicable abomination reigns in DC!

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The article tells us how the animals the VP was hunting were raised so that they couldn't fly and how they were fitted with goggles so they could not see. We are even told how the birds had to be kicked to make them fly enough to be shot.

I tried my best to find any informaiton about the Clove Valley Rod and Gun Club. There isn't much more than an address and phone number available on the internet. And seeing as how the author's phone calls resulted in: "staff at the Clove Valley Rod & Gun Club remained tight-lipped about the take.

An employee who answered the phone would not disclose which species was being shot"

How does Martha know what kind of hunting was being conducted, how the animals were raised, or that hunters like myself like blowup dolls?

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According to the Torah (Genesis 6:9), Noah is honored as a "tzaddik," or a righteous man. Commentators say this is because he provided charity ("tzedakah") for so many animals on the ark. The high level of awareness and concern given to the care and feeding of the animals aboard the ark reflects the traditional Jewish value of not causing harm to animals, or tsa’ar ba’alei chayim.

This moral principle—officially set down as law in the Torah and elaborated upon in the Talmud (Shabbat 128b), the medieval commentaries and the Responsa literature—permeates the many legends that grew up around the leading figures in the Torah and in Jewish history.

Kindness to animals was so valued by the Jewish tradition; it was also considered an important measure of a person’s piety. From this emerged the stories about how shepherds such as Moses and David were elevated to national leadership because of their compassion for their lambs. There are also many "maysehs," or moralistic folktales in Judaism about sages who rescued or fed stray cows and hungry chickens, watered thirsty horses and freed caged birds.

In the Talmud (Eruvin 100b), Rabbi Yochanon teaches, "Even if we had not been given the Torah, we still would have learned modesty from the cat, honesty from the ant, chastity from the dove, and good manners from the rooster. Thus, the animals should be honored."

According to the Talmud (Shabbat 77b), the entire creation is to be respected: "Thou thinkest that flies, fleas, mosquitos are superfluous, but they have their purpose in creation as a means of a final outcome...Of all that the Holy One, Blessed be He, created in His world, he did not create a single thing without purpose."

The Talmud (Avodah Zorah 18b) also forbids association with hunters. Rabbi Ezekiel Landau (1713-93) was once asked by a man if he could hunt on his large estate. The rabbi replied:

"In the Torah the sport of hunting is imputed only to fierce characters like Nimrod and Esau, never to any of the patriarchs and their descendants...I cannot comprehend how a Jew could even dream of killing animals merely for the pleasure of hunting...When the act of killing is prompted by that of sport, it is downright cruelty."

The Talmud (Gittin 62a) further teaches that one should not own a domestic or wild animal or even a bird if he cannot properly care for it. Although there is no general rule forbidding animal cruelty, so many biblical commandments call for humane treatment, the talmudic rabbis explicitly declared compassion for animals to be biblical law (Shabbat 128b).

The medieval work Sefer Chasidim, or The Book of the Pious, says, "Be kind and compassionate to all creatures that the Holy One, Blessed be He, created in this world. Never beat nor inflict pain on any animal, beast, bird or insect. Do not throw stones at a dog or a cat, nor should ye kill flies or wasps."

According to Shulhan Aruch, the Orthodox Code of Jewish Law, no special blessings are given for meat dishes. "It is not fitting to bless God over something which He created and which man has slain." It is also forbidden to celebrate the acquisition of a leather garment. Similarly, it is a custom never to wear leather shoes on Yom Kippur. "One does not ask for forgiveness of sins while wearing articles made from the skins of slaughtered animals."

Shulhan Aruch teaches: "It is forbidden, according to the Torah, to hurt any living creature. It is, on the contrary, one’s duty to save any living creature, be he ownerless, or if he belongs to a non-Jew."

Rabbi Samson Raphael Hirsch taught, "The boy, who in crude joy, finds delight in...a suffering animal will also be dumb towards human pain."

British historian William Lecky noted, "Tenderness towards animals is one of the most beautiful features of the Old Testament."

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Reverend J.R. Hyland, author of God's Covenant with Animals (it's available through PETA), notes:

"The Christian voices that were raised in protest against the wanton murder of animal beings were ignored. Even the repugnance toward hunting and hunters that was encoded in Catholic Canon Law, was ignored. 'Esau was a hunter because he was a sinner; and in the Holy Scriptures we do not find a single holy man being a hunter.' (From the Corpus Juris Canonici. Rome, 1582.)"

"Thanks be to God!" wrote John Wesley, founder of Methodism, in 1747. "Since the time I gave up the use of flesh-meats and wine, I have been delivered from all physical ills." Wesley was a vegetarian for spiritual reasons as well. He based his vegetarianism on the Biblical prophecies concerning the Kingdom of Peace, where "on the new earth, no creature will kill, or hurt, or give pain to any other." He further taught that animals "shall receive an ample amends for all their present sufferings."

Wesley urged parents to educate their children about compassion towards animals. He wrote: "I am persuaded you are not insensible of the pain given to every Christian, every humane heart, by those savage diversions, bull-baiting, cock-fighting, horse-racing, and hunting."

In a 1991 article, “Hunting: What Scripture Says,” Rick Dunkerly of Christ Lutheran Church observes:

“There are four hunters mentioned in the Bible: three in Genesis and one in Revelation. The first hunter is named Nimrod in Genesis 10:8-9. He is the son of Cush and founder of the Babylonian Empire, the empire that opposes God throughout Scripture and is destroyed in the Book of Revelation. In Micah 5:6, God’s enemies are said to dwell in the land of Nimrod. Many highly reputable evangelical scholars such as Barnhouse, Pink and Scofield regard Nimrod as a prototype of the anti-Christ.

“The second hunter is Ishmael, Abraham’s ‘son of the flesh’ by the handmaiden, Hagar. His birth is covered in Genesis 16 and his occupation in 21:20. Ishmael’s unfavorable standing in Scripture is amplified by Paul in Galatians 4:22-31.

“The third hunter, Esau, is also mentioned in the New Testament. His occupation is contrasted with his brother (Jacob) in Genesis 25:27. In Hebrews 12:16 he is equated with a ‘profane person’ (KJV). He is a model of a person without faith in God. Again, Paul elucidates upon this model unfavorably in Romans 9:8-13, ending with the paraphrase of Malachi 1:2-3: ‘Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.’

“The fourth hunter is found in Revelation 6:2, the rider of the white horse with the hunting bow. Scholars have also identified him as the so-called anti-Christ. Taken as a group, then, hunters fare poorly in the Bible. Two model God’s adversary and two model the person who lives his life without God.

“In Scripture,” notes Dunkerly, “the contrast of the hunter is the shepherd, the man who gently tends his animals and knows them fully. The shepherds of the Bible are Abel, Jacob, Joseph, Moses and David. Beginning in the 23rd Psalm, Jesus is identified as ‘the Good Shepherd.’

“As for hunting itself, both the Psalms and Proverbs frequently identify it with the hunter of souls, Satan. His devices are often called ‘traps’ and ‘snares,’ his victims ‘prey.’ Thus, in examining a biblical stance on the issue of hunting, we see the context is always negative, always dark in contrast to light...premeditated killing, death, harm, destruction. All of these are ramifications of the Fall. When Christ returns, all of these things will be ended...

“Of all people,” Dunkerly oncludes, “Christians should not be the destroyers. We should be the healers and reconcilers. We must show NOW how it will be THEN in the Peaceable Kingdom..."

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Psychology Today did a study a number of years ago and found that 90% of hunters had small members. Their thinking was that under endowed men need to do certain things to feel masculine. One of these things being -Hunting.
The other thing that under endowed men or even impotent men do, is buy red sports cars.
I would suggest they get some Viagra and leave the animals alone. No women, at least in her right mind, finds hunting masculine or sexy.
I think our Vice president has proven that theory !!!

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The following is excerpted from: HOFJAGDEN: ROYAL HUNTS AND SHOOTING PARTIES IN THE IMPERIAL ERA by Katherine Lerman.

... "The kind of hunting that was most associated with the Hofjagden*, however, was the so-called ‘German hunt’ (eingestellte Jagd), a form of hunting that, with few exceptions, was largely confined to the German-speaking lands (although it was not, apparently, so common in south Germany). This was a highly controlled and stage-managed shoot which succeeded in slaughtering large numbers of wild animals, mainly red or fallow deer and wild boar, in less than an hour. The hunt traditionally involved enclosing a demarcated area with long white linen or canvas strips (Lappen) which shimmered in the darkness of the wood and were meant to frighten the animals into turning back. In the Kaiserreich the animals (which in some cases winter feeding stations had rendered almost tame) were further manipulated through the use of nets, high cloths (called toils which were decorated with the black eagle), trap-gates and corridors. In the German hunt there was no element of chance or risk and the bag was known in advance. At the given signal the cloths were raised and the panicked and distressed animals were driven from their enclosures (Kammer) along the runs to the waiting guns amassed on stands or a raised platform. The shots were generally in the middle of the area, shooting outwards, and the animals were driven to either side of the Kaiser’s stand to maximise his bag. The carnage was as total as the noise was deafening. At the Saupark several hundred wild boars could be despatched in this way and at Letzlingen over 500 fallow deer and 300 wild boars. There were few who relished the spectacle if they could see it (and given the enclosed nature of the shoot and the fact that Schultz smokeless powder was only introduced from the 1880s, this was a moot point). Philipp Eulenburg decried them14and Crown Prince Friedrich Wilhelm called them as early as 1886 ‘an evil pleasure [ein schlechtes Vergnügen]’ in which he only participated because he had to represent his father.15A forestry master, Alexander von Bülow, who witnessed the traditional hunting practices at Letzlingen in his youth, later wrote that they were ‘frankly incompatible with a “civilised country” in the 20th Century’."

(*Hofjagden: hunts hosted by the monarch and organized by his court officials)

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that's why he goes after defenseless animals. Blow-up dolls are not an option.

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He'll push you
Or any other living thing
Over the cliff before him.
Dead Eye Dick
Shoots America in the face
Every day.
The Architect of 911
Dead Eye
Runs
The SHOW!
Mass Delusion,
Terror and Torture,
Spying and Lying
Poverty and Dying.
As
The Cor-'pirates'
Slash and burn this Earth
singing
Destroy the World.

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false analogy alert!!!!. There is nothing wrong with using a blow up doll to masturbate with unless you get caught or some one finds out.Truly the horrendous crimes these government officials have done to other people ,their own people and country , i wish they all stayed home with their blow up dolls calling some one out for beating off with a doll when he is a murdering sack o sheet is kinda tupid ya think?

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savebyram.org
This is all about you and me. It's about what we do, not what we want our local societies to be. It's not about national politics or partisanship. Stop talking. Take action.

Here in NJ, our Govt fosters these entertainment, get your gun jollies, clubs. Govt calls them "Preserves" and with such a permit the hunting law and zoning laws are swept aside for the priveleged to shoot 50, 100+ birds to start the morning off right. They can do so 7 days a week on property not zoned commercial, but residential/farming. And they can invite in the public for as little as $12.50 a head ($11.50 goes to the State) for a hunting license.

What does the applicant have to prove? Prior reasonable public interest and a professed willingness to not use lead shot. He must process beacoup birds.

Well... "prior reasonable public interest" seems to be the applicant's point of view, not the public's. The public is never asked. And you can only guess how the State is staffed to enforce the public welfare of "no lead". Let alone that the State doesn't do a site lead survey when a virgin piece of land is offered up for "Preserve" use. The State is so willing to accomodate a killing fields entertainment application that our region, supposedly under the Highlands Act to protect natural settings/communities and the watershed, is ignored.

We now have a $billionaire wanting to surround our 400+ home, 40 year old suburban lake community with such a nuisance business. How many is beaucoup birds?

19200 Pheasants
2600 Mallard
1200 Partridge

That's a lot of lead. And noise. It kills nearby property values. It's a no win for all - yet Govt greases the skids for these businesses. Yes, State Govt trumps zoning laws, Master Plans, hunting laws and community rights to make sure these businesses exist. Why? Because we are pecking away on keyboards instead of establishing the society we want.

Forget Cheney, look at yourselves to see the reflection of what our Govts are doing. Ask yourself, what have you done to stop things like this from happening? Engage Govt. Stop the apathy and complaining. savebyram.org

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