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Gangster Giuliani: The GOP's Worst

By Margaret Kimberley, Black Agenda Report. Posted November 8, 2007.


If a potential Giuliani presidency in any way resembles a Giuliani mayoralty, then the country would be in for a truly awful time.

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It is a supreme irony that Rudolph Giuliani became mayor of New York City because his opponent and predecessor, David Dinkins, is a black man. The myth of the always liberal white New Yorker was proven to be just that on election day in 1993. White voters deserted Dinkins in droves and elected a Republican mayor for the first time in 30 years.

Giuliani, a former prosecutor, took office and immediately began treating New Yorkers, particularly black New Yorkers, like criminals. He specialized in pleasing white people by beating up black people. Under his leadership the police were unleashed and given the right to arrest for petty offenses and even to kill when they felt the urge to do so.

When Haitian immigrant Patrick Dorismond was killed by a police officer, Giuliani illegally released his juvenile justice records to police. Adding insult to injury, he smeared the dead man by stating that he was "no altar boy." The Dorismond case was one of the tipping points that made even some white New Yorkers long for the day that Giuliani would be their former mayor.

His public actions involving his private life also took the bloom off of the Rudy rose. In 2000 Giuliani informed his wife he was leaving her for another woman. He brought her that news via press conference. New York sophistication should not be confused with moral laissez faire. The tacky behavior was never forgotten.

On September 11, 2001 New Yorkers were giving collective thanks because term limits legislation insured that Rudy would soon be gone for good. Only a small number of dead enders were still in his thrall. But the terror attacks on the twin towers put him back in the spotlight. He was dubbed "America's mayor," and made a Knight of British Empire. He then made a bundle by forming Giuliani Partners and making up to $200,000 for a single speaking engagement, marketing himself as a terrorism expert because he managed to look calm for a few days.

Now Giuliani is running for the Republican presidential nomination and he is the very worst of a bad lot. He unabashedly supports the occupation of Iraq and a military attack on Iran. He doesn't think simulating drowning via water boarding is torture and agrees wholeheartedly with the Bush destruction of civil liberties.

If a potential Giuliani presidency in any way resembles a Giuliani mayoralty then the country would be in for a truly awful time. As mayor Giuliani promoted the worst, least competent people to high positions in New York City government. Bernard Kerik, an undercover cop, had the shrewdness to put himself in the right place at the right time when he volunteered to drive Rudy around during his mayoral campaign. Despite the lack of any other credential, his rise to power was swift. First he was made a Deputy Commissioner at the Department of Corrections, then Commissioner.

Kerik was nothing but a crook. Fully aware that Kerik was under investigation for taking money from a construction company with organized crime connections, Giuliani nonetheless appointed him Police Commissioner. While others insist that they informed Giuliani of Kerik's mob ties, Rudy claims not to remember. He certainly didn't remember when he recommended his pal for a cabinet level position as Secretary of Homeland Security. When Kerik imploded under an avalanche of bad publicity Rudy just shrugged his shoulders, confident that he would continue to get away with doing whatever he wants.

Giuliani has credibility with most Republican voters because of his warmongering and inclination to inflict physical pain on dark people. He is still in trouble with conservative Christians for his pro-choice position as mayor of New York City and for publicly treating his wife and children like dirt. He plans to make up for that by being more overtly racist.

He will remind white Republicans of the good old days when he cut the welfare roles. He did so by breaking the law and denying benefits to eligible people, but no matter. He knows his audience. When they hear the word welfare they will salivate like Pavlovian dogs and decide that Rudy is their man.

There is every reason to believe that Giuliani will act out his every sick fantasy if he were to occupy the oval office. There is no reason to believe that Democrats would finally behave like an opposition. A Giuliani presidency is a nightmarish scenario. We will all be Patrick Dorismond, assumed to be guilty of something and therefore worthy of punishment. It is hard to imagine a worse president than George W. Bush, but Rudolph Giuliani fits that description perfectly.

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Margaret Kimberley's Freedom Rider column appears weekly in BAR. Ms. Kimberley' maintains an edifying and frequently updated blog at freedomrider.blogspot.com.

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My only problem with this article
Posted by: UnEasyOne on Nov 8, 2007 3:12 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Is that it doesn't go far enough.

It doesn't mention his assaults on the First Amendment (including the museum he tried to shut down and the case he fought - and lost - all the way to the Supreme Court over his arbitrary removal of advertisements that offended him personally.) It also doesn't mention his attempt to postpone elections so he could stay in office or his attempt to overstay his term after a new mayor had been elected!

Over a year ago, A, an internet friend who lives in NYC was warning me about Guiliani. I didn't take it too seriously because I was much more worried about McCain at the time. Looks like she was right and I was wrong. Now he is polling at the top of the Republican heap, within 1 percentage point of the Democratic front runner in a heads up comparison - and McCain has dropped like a rock.

Now he has shored up his biggest weakness by picking up the Pat Robertson endorsement and that hasn't even been reflected in the polls as yet.

Imagine W's smarter, meaner older brother - with less ethics and a bigger lust for absolute power. That's Rudy.

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Kerik ... and 911
Posted by: kogwonton on Nov 8, 2007 3:25 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I do believe it was Mr. Kerik who was said to have magically come up with Atta's passport amidst all the dust, papers, and rubble - all within a day of the collapses. Might want to check that, but I do seem to recall this story.

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REALITYCHECH
Posted by: RODNOX on Nov 8, 2007 3:29 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
ITS TIME PEOPLE FACED THE REAL PROBLEM HERE---THE SUPPORTERS OF PEOPLE LIKE RUDY---BUSH---CHENEY---MUKASEY ---RUMSFELD---THEY ARE AS MUCH OF A PROBLEM AS THE PERSON OR POLICY IN QUESTION----BOYCOTT A BUSINESS THAT SUPPORTS CRIMINALS LIKE THESE----TELL PEOPLE EVERY DAY WHO SUPPORT THESE PEOPLE THAT THEY ARE IN NEED OF A PROPER EDUCATION-----MOST OF ALL FIND OUT WHO THEY SUPPORT AND BOYCOTT THEIR BUSINESS

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» RE: ALITYCHECH Posted by: walldodger1969
» What proper education? Posted by: Cooltruth
» RE: What proper education? Posted by: VZEQICVA
» RE: What proper education? Posted by: bsdone
» RE: ALITYCHECH Posted by: thekidde
I take issue with:
Posted by: surfreality on Nov 8, 2007 4:38 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
"The Dorismond case was one of the tipping points that made even some white New Yorkers long for the day that Giuliani would be their former mayor."
Excuse me, but the scene I run with, downtown, EV, LES Art Stars ( mostly white ) was ALWAYS militantly anti Rudy from the get go.
We started the DLF (Dance Liberation Front ) in response to Rudy's re-enforcement of the old cabaret laws. He was closing bars and restaurants for the "crime" of allowing their patrons to dance. We teamed up with Norman Siegel and the NCLU.
The NYCLU took Rudy to court 21 times over 1st amendment issues, Score:NYCLU 21- Rudy 2. Unfortunately we lost the cabaret law case. But at least we got to do the Hokey Pokey around City Hall.
Another mostly white group that took on Rudy is Critical Mass.
Then there's the Surveillance Camera Players...
And Oh yeah, every EV and LES Democratic organization were to my memory from the get go anti Rudy. These organizations are coalitions of blacks, Hispanics, Asians and whites. We all fought that SOB from day 1.

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Please tell me this will never happen
Posted by: packofwolves on Nov 8, 2007 4:38 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I still don't believe that the good folks of the U.S. elected a Bush to the presidency - not once, not twice, but three times (I still don't believe GW made it twice, I am certain the vote was fixed by the evil empire). And now there's Jeb Bush, who I'm certain is being primed for a fourth Bush dictatorship. But I have no doubt that the voters will see right through that ploy and laugh Jeb right off the map. During this campaign, however, I am confident that the good folks in the U.S. see through this Guiliani character for the sick man that he is and I am confident they realize that his only claim to fame is that he happened to be mayor when 9/11 occurred. This guy shouldn't be given the time of day. If he should end up being elected into the White House, there will be no doubt that voting in this country is a hoax.

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» It is just unbelievable... Posted by: Bbear41
Tripod II
Posted by: dustdevil on Nov 8, 2007 6:25 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I am amazed that more people are not connecting the dots between the FEMA drill that Giuliani was running on the NYC wharves close to WTC on 911. The drill, named Tripod II, enabled FEMA to be close enough to WTC to move in and secure the area immediately. This would keep anyone from
taking evidence that could be used for investigation.
Rudy is more than a gangster. He is an accomplice to mass murder.

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Giuliani Has NO Shame
Posted by: michaeltwatson on Nov 8, 2007 6:25 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Take a look at what was reported by Keith Olberman of MSNBC on Oct. 26, discussing Giuliani's recent claims that he predicted 9/11as follows:

Wayne Barrett, a reporter for New York's Village Voice and author of Grand Illusion: The Untold Story of Rudy Giuliani and 9/11, has now obtained leaked memos describing Giuliani's testimony before the 9/11 Commission which directly contradict that claim. Barrett told Shuster that taken as a whole, Giuliani's testimony "was a confession of ignorance. He basically said, 'I knew nothing about al Qaeda.'" For example, Giuliani acknowledged that even though he had received information on threats between 1998 and 2001, "At the time I had no idea it was al Qaeda." He further told the commission that after 9/11, "we brought in people to brief us on al Qaeda. ... We had nothing like this pre 9/11, which was a mistake."

This should be enough proof that Rudy will say anything to try to support a claim that he is some sort of prescient, articulate, intelligent protector of our security. After all, he is the one who made the decision to put the NYC communication center at the World Trade Center, against the recommendations of his own fire and police chiefs. So, the only "communication" center was his own wandering soul in downtown NYC, looking like the person in control, when there was no control by virtue of his own incompetent decisions. Quite an irony.

Michael Townes Watson, author of America's Tunnel Vision--How Insurance Companies' Propaganda Is Corrupting Medicine and Law.
www.StopMedicalError.com

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» RE: Giuliani Has NO Shame Posted by: terryton
How about "fascist warmonger?"
Posted by: ld7440 on Nov 8, 2007 6:36 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Should egomaniacs like Giuliani be permitted to hold political office, we can expect to see "democracy" as we know it come tumbling down. Not that he and those like him have not made every effort to create a dictatorship and to squelch any semblance of opposition. I have always believed that Giuliani was a horrible mayor, who twisted facts to suit his political objectives. He did not reduce crime in New York, for example. This from someone whose solution to everything was to make it a crime. It became a crime to be homeless in New York, as police proceeded to clear the streets by arresting the homeless. Jaywalkers and spitters were prosecuted. It was sick.

And 9/11? I was there when it happened, trapped with many others at the NY Stock Exchange Trading floor. I don't remember seeing him there. To take a horrible moment and use it for his own aggrandizement is the height of arrogance. He's a pathetic excuse for a human being. Voters really need to wake up.

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Perhaps Rudy the Nominee Won't Be a Bad Thing!
Posted by: tommy1957 on Nov 8, 2007 6:37 AM   
Current rating: 2    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
People, I have seen and read a lot of bad things about Rudy. I think we should wait and if he becomes the nominee of the "Party of the Wide Stance" we will be able to bring to light his overt racism; cronyism; lies and deceptions. If then the majority of Americans were to elect this sleaze ball, we would all have to ask ourselves; what is wrong with America? Not to mention to prepare for world war III. I really don't think the American people are that gullible. I know that Hillary can strike a nerve under the skin of many republicans because she stands up to them. However, if Hillary and Obama, Edwards, or Richardson are the ticket, I believe it will be an unbeatable team. But in order to make a clean sweep of the crap in our government, we must also win at the other levels; congressional and state. I was truly disheartened by the victory of Haley Barbour in Mississippi. He is one of those vicious attack dogs who hounded the Clinton Administration. I live a few years in Mississippi and I can tell you that racism is a live and well in the south. Perhaps with a democratic ticket that includes minorities we can turn the south around. I know there are good people there, it is were I was born and raised. Good Luck to All!

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» Clarification... Posted by: WhuThe?!?
I lived in NYC prior to Rudy, and during Rudy
Posted by: mindportal1 on Nov 8, 2007 6:41 AM   
Current rating: 2    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Prior to Rudy, I was mugged. Crime was rampant. Times Square was a cess pool.The subways were a mess. I saw first hand crime drop dramatically after Rudy came in. The Square was cleaned up. The subways safer. New Yorkers took pride in their city. I'm not saying this would make him a good president, but he put the right people in the right places and ran an effective government. Take it for what it is worth. The man took the largest city in the USA and made it cleaner and safer.

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» I remember Mr. Goetz. Posted by: buzzsaw
» RE: I remember Mr. Goetz. Posted by: desidid
» Rudy cleaned up NYC-myth Posted by: Deep
» RE: udy cleaned up NYC-myth Posted by: CatDad
» RE: udy cleaned up NYC-myth Posted by: buzzsaw
» WRONG!!!! Posted by: ALANHESTER
media
Posted by: snowhound on Nov 8, 2007 6:58 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
The media machine will sell Gullianni against Clinton. Once the nominees are set, they will sell Gullianni. The elites want to continue the transformation into the police state, control the American people, and use it's military to control key resources around the world. Blackwater will be used to terrorize freedom fighters here at home.

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» RE: media Posted by: EJ
Stinkin Dinkins
Posted by: rocketman on Nov 8, 2007 7:08 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
NY didn’t abandon Dinkins because he was black, they abandoned him because he was a horrible mayor – and black and white alike saw that. Crime in NY was affecting EVERYONE..blacks and whites alike.

So why would Margaret hate Giuliani for cleaning up NY?

Because the problem with Margaret Kimberley is representative with the problems NY had.. it’s black vs white..she sees everything in color – not common sense. To her cleaning up crime means targeting blacks... so is she saying black criminals should be left to sell drugs to kids and shot each other and terrorize neighborhoods and just white criminals should be jailed? I'm sure she'd say no but her argument sure seems like that!

This may be news to her but blacks aren’t too happy with crime in their neighborhood either – they are not too happy with their kids getting caught in the middle of gang wars and being shot on the streets while playing .

So Giuliani cracks down on crime..cleans up NY for EVERYONE and a few black leaders complain (Sharpton – what a joke) how blacks are being targeted..well, it’s not that blacks were targeted, the neighborhoods where the crime was being committed was being targeted.. Also ask anyone who worked in the fish market. They hate Giuliani – why? Because he cleaned up organized crime there!

So lets be realistic, you want to get rid of the MS13 gang..you are probably looking for minorities, not the guy in a 3 piece suit. You want to clean up white collar crime, you don’t go into poor neighborhoods.

As for being a republican, Giuliani never got the backing of the conservative party in NY – was ran as a republican with liberal backing. He is actually the strongest republican to beat Hillary – but the religious right nuts will have nothing to do with him.. too liberal. Which is why I like him. I suspect he isn’t too far of Hillary’s political track.

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» RE: Stinkin Dinkins Posted by: desidid
nonesy
Posted by: z on Nov 8, 2007 7:25 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I love Rudy. I love to see him stick his head up his rear end and come out saying everything is rosy because he's just sniffed the wind. Rudy nose what he sniffs. He just makes me so glad to stand up at the Republican Anonymous meetings and admit that every once in a while I have a craving to swallow more Party Lies and see my Storm Troopers bash in the heads of more of those Rag Wearers. God Bless America and all of its Psychotic Leaders like Rudy.....

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All right, already
Posted by: willymack on Nov 8, 2007 7:51 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
We all know that practically NONE OF US is likely to vote for a zero like Rudi baby, even conservasaurus or some of like mind. Just don't forget that this a country where people buy cars with vinyl tops and phony "convertables", and do other nonsensical things, like skip the REAL news as shown here and other websites, and sop up the poison on fox "news" and other ficticious "news" programs.

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» RE: All right, already Posted by: VZEQICVA
» RE: All right, already Posted by: VZEQICVA
» Because.... Posted by: WhuThe?!?
RepubliCreeps
Posted by: frank69 on Nov 8, 2007 8:50 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
If Giuliani or any other Republican Thug is "elected" President, I am going to retire and move to Canada or some other English speaking country. Or maybe, I'll learn French, or Italian, or German, or Swedish, or Danish, etc. You get the point! I'm outta here!!!

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» RepubliCreeps Posted by: dockboy
perplexed
Posted by: perplexed on Nov 8, 2007 9:21 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Ganster Giuliani was in with Bush on 9/11. How else could Bush and Cheney carry it out????? How is it that no one is mentioning this? They have so far gotten away with this trrrible tradgety. Come on America put gangster Giulini where he belongs with the Bush/Cheney/Giulini 9/11 conspiracy.

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» RE: perplexed Posted by: rocketman
» Fantasy? Posted by: dustdevil
» But... Posted by: WhuThe?!?
» RE: But... Posted by: dustdevil
Giuliani=Mussolini
Posted by: Nick on Nov 8, 2007 9:42 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Giuliani is second Mussolini.
Look at old movies with Mussolini
and look at Giuliani, same style,
same manners, same ideas

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Giuliani=Nixon
Posted by: Deep on Nov 8, 2007 10:38 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
This may be the year when we finally come face to face with ourselves; finally just lay back and say it-that we are really just a nation of 220 million used car salesmen with all the money we need to buy guns and no qualms at all about killing anybody else in the world who tries to make us uncomfortable.

Hunter S. Thompson said that about Nixon in Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail '72. The same can be said about a Giuliani victory, except that America will be a land of 250 million used carsalesmen.

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» RE: Giuliani=Nixon Posted by: mrcentrist
possible ad campaign:
Posted by: hurricane hugo on Nov 8, 2007 10:54 AM   
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"Bend over, America - It's Giuliani Time!!!"

Then again, that'll be every day in America if he's elected. Still, I just can't see him surviving the Repub primaries.

plur

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an anti Giuliani smear campaign is in order
Posted by: counterpoint on Nov 8, 2007 12:39 PM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Move on has taken some first steps
Move On on Giuliani
Robert Greenwald has turned the heat up (I've heard his anti-G 'public service announcement played on Boston's WMFO college station), it's been discussed here on alternet
Greenwald on alternet

This is quite potent stuff, and it's only the beginning of a large pile of dung, so it might affect potential voters. Remember, the way US elections are decided (provided it's not through fraud or courts) is by deterring your opponent's voters to come to the poll on that fucking Tuesday.
I say fucking Tuesday because the fucking voting system in the US, and only in the fucking US, does not make voting day a holiday - the purpose being to keep the overworked plebeians from voting.
Look abroad for one minute at any of the newly formed democracies after WW2: no one adopted the US voting system because it's a cancerous piece of shit with its thousands of different voting procedures, county by county. Utterly undemocratic.

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there is nothing "simulated" about the drowning effects of "waterboarding"
Posted by: madaha on Nov 8, 2007 12:55 PM   
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Almost drowning someone is not the same as pretending to drown someone. Stopping before they actually die does not make it "fake". having your lungs fill up with water is real!

WHEN ARE WE GOING TO STOP BUYING INTO THE RHETORIC OF THESE EVIL BASTARDS????

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Fascism In Fun City
Posted by: Ellen Remore on Nov 8, 2007 1:01 PM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I've lived in the city / suburbs all my life, and Giuliani was possibly the worst mayor I ever remember. Yeah, everybody applauded when he cleaned things up, but at the time, not many people bothered to look into the price tag of all that cleanliness--i.e., lock 'em up first and ask questions later (and worse.) He had one notable day in his miserable, misbegotten life that he's been milking ever since. The man is a complete scumbag.

My advice: Keep your passport current.

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Don't like the GOPrs?
Posted by: tgabriel on Nov 8, 2007 2:51 PM   
Current rating: 1    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Yawl better work hard in the heavily Democratic states to see they stay that way and in the Swing states to see that they swing the left direction.

I am convinced that no matter who the repuke candidate is, he will be the next preznit because I really don't think you who would like it to be otherwise will actually do the necessary work to see to a sea change in American destiny.

The repukes know how short the average citizen's memory is and once the average citizen figures out that shrub is not running for office in '08, these average folks will flock to the repuke candidate. No matter who he is. The American Taliban is not going to figure into the mix, it will just be the Centrists and Independents who will keep the White House in the repuke party.

Prove me wrong, Left and Center. Prove me wrong.

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you cant travel back in time and shoot hitler to stop WW II...
Posted by: Annapurna1 on Nov 8, 2007 3:05 PM   
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but a similar opportunity is presenting itself in the form of rudolph (a name i tend to associate w/ nazi war criminals) giuliani...

make no mistake about it ..if giuliani wins the GOP nomination..then he automatically wins the POTUS..and the country will be RUINED...

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The President of Torture, The President of Never Ending War
Posted by: sofla100 on Nov 8, 2007 3:15 PM   
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If this guy is elected, make no mistake, Iran gets attacked, possibly invaded and the Iraq war gets escalated. America is in for years of never ending war. All to prove a point. What point? That America can be victorious, that non-existent WMD's can once again be the claimed cause for war. Will America be any safer? Or course not. Just more fired up Muslims feeding the jihad that all this has escalated. Just more domestic spying to "keep tabs on people." Just more Guantanamo's. In fact, Rudy has said he wants to "take the gloves off" when it comes to Guantanamo. More tortured goat herders encouraged to fess up involvement with something they know nothing about. That is, until Rudy decides to start sending down "undesirable elements" in American society to GITMO as well. All this made legal by "signing statements" on laws and retroactive conniving of America's Congress. This is the future if this guy comes into power, make no mistake about it.

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Where is Rove?
Posted by: Sparks56 on Nov 8, 2007 5:16 PM   
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Pat Robertson's endorsement of Ghouliani has Karl Rove's fingerprints all over it. Rudy could never have gotten it by himself. (Last month the evangelicals were threatening to form a third party if Rudy got the Republican nomination.) Ghouliani has lined up some of the same $$$ backers Dubya had. He's hired some of the same neocon advisors. Somewhere behind a curtain Karl Rove is pulling levers. I know it. Part of it I'm sure is FOH (fear of Hillary.) Karl Rove is an artist at manipulating fear. Karl and Rudy also have the same view of ethics in politics; there aren't any.
Where the hell is Rove?!!!

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» RE: Where is Rove? Posted by: Ellie1
One of the other posters wisely pointed out the problem is the Repub voting base
Posted by: chief of okeefe on Nov 8, 2007 6:42 PM   
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And with those people, the candidate who can "out-nigger" their opponents (look tougher on people of color, from brown to black) will get the nomination. Then their criminal support system will rig the election, suppressing or wiping out anti-repub voting, and yes, you will get the worst of the worst elected as "President".

The only choice for blue states is to secede from the Union if a repub is elected. If we can bust up this aggressor country, then it will no longer be able to make aggressive war on planet earth.

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Thanks for the warning
Posted by: GPFrank on Nov 8, 2007 7:34 PM   
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The logic is inexorable. To save our country we have to get rid of Bush and especially Cheney. Guliani is worse then both having an associate in the traditional underworld. That was one point in Bush's election campaign; he only associated with high class criminals. Cheney's money was made much cheaper and he is only torturing Arabs or someone that looks like one.
Guliani is an out-an-out thug, he even beats up Americans. Getting back to the syllogism, therefore we have to be satisfied with the candidate who can beat Guliani.

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Oh really he's the next Hitler
Posted by: Bigpun on Nov 9, 2007 10:48 AM   
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Politically Gullani is has the best shot for the GOP to defeat Clinton. I'm sorry he made NYC a nice place to live and visit. Sorry you don't have to worry about getting mugged or shot in NYC anymore...... He's a real Hitler. He also supports gay marriage, but oh he takes all the rights of black people. Its people that write this shit like this that hurts black people also... maybe black, pink or white we're all American we should act that way. For all who don't support gay marriage your the same as the people that thought it would be the end of the world if blacks and whites lived together.... just ignorant. Maybe people shouldn't push there Christian believes into law, because you can put Christianity, Islam, Scientology, and Wicca into the same class a bunch of dumb people brain washed into believing something made up that really when you bring in science makes no sense what so ever. I really don't care if we go into Iran anyway, because if we don't Israel will take care of them. Also for all of Congress that voted for the war and then changed there minds maybe they forgot what war was...... people getting killed (this includes women and children) sorry the flower bomb that makes everyone get along hasn't been made yet. Maybe this year when everyone picks a President you will pick a straight shooter that will standup for what’s right and make America better rather than some born politician that just wants to be re-elected.

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» RE: Oh really he's the next Hitler Posted by: johannesrolf
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Guido's Unfit to Rule
Posted by: dayahka on Nov 11, 2007 11:37 AM   
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That Rudy is the leading right-wing Demopublican candidate for president has got to be the most unbelievable fact of the current campaign.

Kerik was not a "mistake," as Rudy charcterizes it, but a long-term, chronic case of bad judgment and poor choce of associates and business partners. How many other such people are there in Rudy's life?

Rudy is clearly a bad family man, an aging satyr and golddigger currently married to a golddigger (can you imagine the shame of her as first lady?), with a tendency to associate in the long term with other golddiggers. Here is a man who at best is Bush-lite in foreign policy (Bush-lite is like lite lite, an empty pack), without an ounce of gravitas required of a president (compared to Rudy, Bush is a model president), a guido-like bumpkin and sleaze bag.

Unbelievable!

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Do we want to know? Giuliani, Obama???
Posted by: niliadis on Nov 11, 2007 7:19 PM   
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How about some interesting guests...We should all email Hannity, CNN, Fox News abd any other media that they have the following Guests
1."Grand Illusions" Authors Wayne Barret and Dan Colling
2. .DENNIS BYRNE-Our First Muslim President? (Article in Expose Obama)
3. AMANDA B. CARPENTER- Barack Obama's Whitewater? (Article in Expose Obama)
4. Antoin “Tony” Rezko, Obama's Real Estate Buddy-scandall Obama does not want you to know
5. Bernard Kerik Giuliani's buddy Maybe he can give us some pointer on what he did for our Homeland Security......This would be interesting!

The Above guests wiould be a smash!!!! Some of these people Hannity would not like to have on his program and some of these CNN would not like to have... Its time more of our candidate be exposed!!

Maybe you can have the guests pertaining to Obama one day and the ones pertaining to
Good old Rudy another day. This would be incredible.
Bill I am counting on you, The Dog is old news, WE all know the man is not a racist and
its old news.

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Patrick Dorismond Case Was Even Worse Than You Know
Posted by: Nuuon on Nov 12, 2007 9:38 AM   
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The Patrick Dorismond Case Was Even Worse Than You Know. Dorismond was working security for a dance club. According to an eyewitness, Dorismond was outside the club with a friend when an undercover police officer approached him and asked him if he knew where to buy drugs. Dorismond said he did not know. The undercover officer insisted, and Dorismond told the officer to get lost. Then the undercover officer lunged at Dorismond (in an apparent effort to provoke Dorismond into an attack). When Dorismond defended himself the undercover officer used this excuse to shoot him to death without identifying himself as a police officer.

In an effort to cover for the killer cop Ghouliani illegally released Dorismond juvenile arrest record, which had been sealed years earlier by the courts. Then Ghouliana announced that Dorismond "Was no altar boy." In fact, Dorismond had literally been an altar boy.

Ghouliani: a scumbag of the first order - The perfect leader for the Republicans and America's right-wing.

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