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Seven Bad Assumptions We Make About Iran

By Trita Parsi, The Nation. Posted November 5, 2007.


Seven assumptions we need to rethink in order to create a better foreign policy regarding Iran.

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Iran will be the top foreign policy challenge for the United States in the coming years. The Bush Administration's policy (insistence on zero enrichment of uranium, regime change and isolation of Iran) and the policy of the radicals around President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (unlimited civilian nuclear capability, selective inspections and replacing the United States as the region's dominant power) have set the two countries on a collision course. Yet the mere retirement of George W. Bush's neocons or Ahmadinejad's radicals may not be sufficient to avoid the disaster of war.

The ill-informed foreign policy debate on Iran contributes to a paradigm of enmity between the United States and Iran, which limits the foreign policy options of future U.S. administrations to various forms of confrontation while excluding more constructive approaches. These policies of collision are in no small part born of the erroneous assumptions we adopted about Iran back in the days when we could afford to ignore that country. But as America sinks deeper into the Iraqi quicksand, remaining in the dark about the realities of Iran and the actual policies of its decision-makers is no longer an option.

A successful policy on Iran must begin by reassessing some basic assumptions:

1. Iran is ripe for regime change.

Not true. Although the ruling clergy in Iran are very unpopular, they are not going anywhere anytime soon. (A distinction obviously needs to be made here between the electoral survival of the Ahmadinejad government and the survival of the system as a whole.) The Iranian people certainly deserve a better government -- one that provides Iran's youthful population with a better economic future and respects human rights -- but the current choice Iranians face is not between Islamic tyranny and democratic freedom. It is between chaos and stability. The increased tensions with the United States over the past year have only strengthened the government's hold on power by limiting the space for prodemocracy activists (much as the 9/11 attacks paved the way for the passing of the Patriot Act and the weakening of Americans' civil rights). Whatever we think of the clergy in Tehran, we cannot afford wishful thinking about their imminent departure.

2. Iran is irrational and cannot be deterred.

Not true. Iran's foreign policy behavior is highly problematic for the United States, but a careful study of Iran's actions -- not just its rhetoric -- reveals systematic, pragmatic and cautious maneuvering toward a set goal: decontainment and the re-emergence of Iran as a pre-eminent power in the Middle East. Iran often conceals its real objectives behind layers of ideological rhetoric, with the aim of confusing potential enemies and making its policies more attractive to the Muslim nations it seeks to lead. At times it even simulates irrationality as an instrument of deterrence, the calculation being that enemies will be more reluctant to attack Iran if Tehran's response can't be predicted and won't follow a straight cost-benefit analysis. (Richard Nixon used the same strategy during the cold war, in what he called the "madman theory"; he sought to deter the Soviets by making them think he was slightly mad and unpredictable.) In reality, the United States -- and Israel -- have a long history of deterring Iran. During the Lebanon war of 2006, Israel signaled Tehran's leaders that it would retaliate against Iran if Hezbollah struck Tel Aviv with long-distance missiles. Tehran got the message. Despite many promises by Hezbollah leader Sheik Hassan Nasrallah to hit Israel if the Jewish state continued the bombardment of Lebanon, Iran prevented Hezbollah from using its long-range missiles. Deterrence worked, and an uncontrollable escalation of the war was avoided.

3. Iran is inherently anti-American.

Not quite. To Iran anti-Americanism is a means, not an end. Iran believes that its size and power position it to play a major role in regional affairs. This aspiration, however, clashes with America's aim of isolating and containing Iran. As long as public opinion in the Middle East remains largely critical of the United States, and as long as Washington continues to seek a regional order based on excluding Iran, Iran will likely play on anti-Americanism to make Washington's policy of exclusion as costly as possible and to rally existing anti-American sentiment around Iranian objectives. But if the strategic environment in the region changes -- with a different relationship between Tehran and Washington as a result -- the utility of anti-Americanism will fade away.

4. Enrichment equals a nuclear bomb.

Not necessarily. The current nuclear impasse is partly rooted in the questionable assumption that zero enrichment is the only route to avoid an Iranian bomb. While the optimal situation is one in which Iran does not enrich, this goal is no longer possible. But that does not mean that a small-scale Iranian enrichment program is tantamount to a nuclear bomb. According to nuclear experts like Bruno Pellaud, former deputy director general and head of the International Atomic Energy Agency's Department of Safeguards, intrusive inspections is the best tool to ensure that Iran doesn't divert its civilian program into a military one. Yet these inspections can only take place as part of a package deal with Iran that includes some level of enrichment. This makes reassessment of the zero-enrichment objective all the more important.

5. Iran seeks Israel's destruction.

False. As I explain in my book Treacherous Alliance, the Iranian clergy have strong ideological antipathy toward Israel, but ideology is not the primary driving force of Iranian foreign policy. The major shifts in Israeli-Iranian relations, from pragmatic entente in the 1960s and '70s to strategic rivalry in the 1990s, have occurred because of changing strategic -- not ideological -- realities. Whenever Iran's ideological and strategic imperatives have clashed -- as was the case in the 1980s, when the common threat from the Soviet Union and Iraq prompted Iran and Israel to pursue clandestine cooperation -- realpolitik has prevailed. Today, Iran's ideological and strategic imperatives largely coincide. Israel is seen as a strategic and an ideological threat, and as a result Tehran has actively confronted Israel. But Iran does not seek Israel's destruction, nor does its attitude toward Israel lack pragmatism. In 2002 Iran signaled that it was prepared to adopt a "Malaysian profile" on Israel in return for an end to Israeli and American efforts to isolate Tehran. Iran would, much like Malaysia, be an Islamic state that would not recognize Israel and would occasionally criticize it but would not directly confront the Jewish state. Iran and Israel would simply recognize each other's spheres of influence and stay out of each other's hair. The message was communicated to Israel through various channels, including a presentation by a senior Iranian military figure at a conference in Europe attended by several Israelis. Ze'ev Schiff, the late military affairs editor of Ha'aretz, told me that the consistency of Tehran's message "made it more clear that this was a policy" and not just empty talk. Though Iran has a new and more radical president today, it is still ruled by the same Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, and the concept of a "Malaysian profile" still enjoys support in the Iranian National Security Council -- President Ahmadinejad's venomous rhetoric notwithstanding.

6. The pressure on Iran is working.

Questionable. Pressure alone will not resolve the Iranian crisis. Iran has been under comprehensive U.S. sanctions since 1995. These sanctions have undoubtedly been effective in hurting the Iranian economy and have made Tehran's pursuit of its foreign policy more costly. But they have not forced Iran to abandon its policies. In fact, after twelve years of sanctions Iran is more powerful and more defiant than ever. Ratcheting up sanctions will be nothing more than a higher dose of a policy already proven to be unsuccessful. The combination of ineffective sanctions and unrealistic demands will get the United States nowhere.

7. Stability in the Middle East can be achieved only through Iran's isolation.

Quite the contrary. History teaches us that an Iran that isn't part of the region's security architecture will be more destabilizing than an Iran that has been incorporated into the region's political order. In the aftermath of the first Gulf War, instead of pursuing an inclusive security architecture for the Persian Gulf, Washington opted to sign bilateral defense pacts with the Arab Gulf states while pursuing a new order in the region based on Iran's prolonged isolation. The policy was called "dual containment," the idea being that the United States would advance the Middle East peace process by containing both Iran and Iraq. What Washington failed to recognize was that the policy of exclusion provided Iran with incentives to undermine U.S. efforts. And the weakest link in the American strategy was the Israeli-Palestinian peace process. Without successful peacemaking between the Israelis and Palestinians, America's new regional order could not be achieved and Iran would evade prolonged isolation, Tehran calculated. Though Iran wasn't solely responsible for the collapse of the peace process, it did contribute to undermining it by supporting rejectionist Palestinian organizations at a time when the United States was at the height of its power and when Tehran was in a very weak position. Today the tables have turned. Iran is rising and the United States is mired in Iraq. Instead of repeating a policy that failed under the best circumstances, we must recognize that Iran's propensity to act as the spoiler will decline when it is included, not when it's excluded.

Iran poses a complicated challenge to America, but not an irresolvable one. Despite the tremendous distrust between the two countries, history shows that negotiations can work. In 2001 Tehran and Washington worked closely together to defeat the Taliban and install a new government in Afghanistan. Without Iranian help, the new Constitution of Afghanistan would not have been achieved, according to U.S. diplomats involved in the effort.

Similar cooperation, but on a lower scale, took place before the invasion of Iraq. In 2003 Iran sent the United States a comprehensive negotiations package, only to be snubbed by the Bush Administration. Clearly, success in negotiations can never be guaranteed. But neither can failure. We will never know whether we can succeed in negotiating with Iran until we try. And so far, beyond isolated instances, the Administration has not given broad negotiations a fair chance, nor has the United States pursued a policy of inclusion and regional integration. (A policy of sanctions and confrontation, on the other hand, is a proven failure.)

While hawks are presenting a wide array of arguments as to why we shouldn't talk to Iran -- including the notion that, given the quagmire in Iraq, the hand of the United States is now much weaker than it was several years ago, as well as the idea that Washington doesn't have anything to offer -- only Washington can offer Tehran what it really seeks: decontainment and reintegration in the Middle East. Iran wants a seat at the table and a say as a legitimate player in all regional decision-making. Iran can make it costly for the United States not to recognize it as a regional power, but it cannot gain its seat at the table without American agreement. This is an extremely valuable carrot Washington can offer Tehran in return for momentous changes in Iranian behavior. In fact, unbeknownst to decision-makers in Washington, America holds an ace up its sleeve. But this ace can be used only in the context of real negotiations.

These negotiations cannot be limited to Iraq or to the nuclear issue alone. The problems between the United States and Iran go well beyond these two issues. There is an underlying geopolitical imbalance that must be addressed. The previous order in the region has crumbled as a result of America's defeat of the Taliban and its subsequent failure to establish a coherent order in Iraq. Even if the nuclear issue and the Iraq calamity were to be resolved, the context that has given meaning to these problems to begin with -- the collapse of the previous order and the absence of an all-inclusive security arrangement -- will remain unresolved. Any agreement with Iran that does not address this fundamental issue is doomed to be short-lived.

Creating a new regional order, in which the carrot of Iranian inclusion is used to secure radically different behavior from Tehran, is neither a concession to Iran nor a capitulation of American (or Israeli) interests. Rather, it is a recognition that stability in the region cannot be achieved and sustained through the current strategy of pursuing an order based on the exclusion of one of the region's most powerful nations. To change Iran's behavior, we must change our own.

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Dr. Trita Parsi is the author of "Treacherous Triangle -- The Secret Dealings of Israel, Iran and the United States" (Yale University Press, 2007).

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PIPEDREAM for AMERIKA CORP
Posted by: stryder on Nov 5, 2007 1:31 AM   
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This overview has value but it’s dishonest for a rather simple reason. It mistakes the common error MSM pundits make of confusing the American regime at DC with America at large. It’s an issue that makes all the difference.

Examples:

“3. Iran is inherently anti-American.”

This statement is a cheat strawman. There is no such thing as “America” in foreign policy outside of dealing with U.S. government that – with monopoly media – is a puppet of Fascist organized corporate crime. In other words, a crime state directly responsible via CIA (de facto corporate secret police) of overthrowing 20 democratic countries since World War 2 as millions died for the usual corporate charlatans.

The actual regime behind the circus show at Fascist DC is age-old. It’s been at the helm from before the silent coup that put robber barons in charge of the economy in 1913 through the “Federal Reserve” Corp sting (not federal, no reserves).

In short, being “anti-American” abroad translates to being anti-Fascist and opposed to multinational oligarchs that use Washington the way a homicidal pimp employs a criminal whore.


“Iran poses a complicated challenge to America, but not an irresolvable one. Despite the tremendous distrust between the two countries, history shows that negotiations can work.”

“To change Iran's behavior, we must change our own.”


This amounts to a strategic pipedream sold to Americans by one of many pundits to frame the debate as though America is still a capitalist nation run by some kind of democracy.

You can’t “change” your “behavior” until you ID and deal with what that “behavior” actually is from the Fascist system that creates it. Thus, this column pumps cartoon bubbles for reality.

Few enough people around the globe are deluded about criminal, crypto-Fascist Amerika. A place that is no less than a front for an organized crime state pretending to be anything and everything it is not.

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» IS no one right then? Posted by: BTDT
Blah Blah Blah (yawn)
Posted by: Dadster3 on Nov 5, 2007 4:06 AM   
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This article and others like it have at least two underlying assumptions: (a) that US policy-making is based on reason, and (b) that US leadership, if they had just a little bit more info or thought about what they do have just a little bit more, they'd see the light and do what's right.

Nonsense. America is now an empire, and empire is about the raw power to dominate. Until that sinks in and the dialog shifts to a what America could be if it started treating the rest of the world with respect, generosity and restrain, articles like this will remain just so much fluff passing as "content."

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» Sadly, Britain has become a puppet. Posted by: colinmeister
» RE: Blah Blah Blah (yawn) Posted by: richholland
» Nonsense indeed. Posted by: Vin
» RE: Nonsense indeed.-not so Posted by: donl51
» RE: Nonsense indeed. Posted by: Iconoclast421
» RE: Blah Blah Blah (yawn) Posted by: newtype_alpha
» RE: Blah Blah Blah (yawn) Posted by: rhinojos
Meanwhile, back at the ranch here at home...
Posted by: Sushi on Nov 5, 2007 4:39 AM   
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"The Iranian people certainly deserve a better government -- one that provides Iran's youthful population with a better economic future and respects human rights -- but the current choice Iranians face is not between Islamic tyranny and democratic freedom..."

Same can be said for the U.S. "The American people certainly deserve a better government -- one that provides America's youthful population with a better economic future and respects human rights -- "

It's real easy to say Americans are "free" but just try using those freedoms and you could get locked up. Go to a demonstration and you need a permit, then get locked up in a "free-speech zone" aka "a cage." Get arbitrarily labeled a "terrorist sympathizer", disappeared and gee, where did habeus corpus slip off to now that I need them? "Hey! Torture hurts!" Now we need passports to go to Mexico, Canada, the Bahamas. This was not at the request of those countries. Me gets the feeling our borders will soon be closing, not to foreigners, but to citizens. We are being tracked. Wait and see if I am right. "Vere are your papersss?" might be the next step.

Sushi
"Other than telling us how to live,think,marry, pray, vote, invest, educate our children and now,die, I think the Republicans have done a fine job getting gov'ment out of our personal lives."

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otto
Posted by: otto on Nov 5, 2007 5:40 AM   
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I was confused today by Joe Wilson's blog in Huffington Post: backing Hilary Clinton's vote on the Lieberman resolution, and agreeing that their "Guard troops" are terrorist and have to be contained. I greatly admire how he has stood up to the lies of Bush and gang, but also wonder if his other views might be colored by years in the CIA. He seems to be with the Clintons, which I see as Bushlite and favorable to big corporations. And does he forget the history of the U.S. in regard to Iran, which in my view can be termed as its own form of terrorism? On this one, Joe confuses me.

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» Do you believe?... Posted by: matti
Wrong about "unlimited enrichment" claim
Posted by: hass on Nov 5, 2007 5:53 AM   
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Actually, Ahmadinejad himself offered to put limits on Iran's enrichment program when he gave his speech at the UN General Assembly by operating Iran's enrichment facility as a multinational enrichment facility.

Iran has repeatedly offered several extreme limits on its civilian program which go far beyond anything Iran is legally required to do (and beyong what other countries with the same technology have agreed to do - such as Brazil or Argentina) and all these offers have been ignored by the US even though they conformed to the suggestions of international organizations such as the IAEA itself and the International Crisis Group.

Iran has signed the Additional Protocol and allowed greater inspections than it was legally required to permit - according to the IAEA itself.

And if Iran "replaces" the US as the dominant power in the Persian Gulf, its because of the US's own idiotic policies more than anything Iran could ever do.

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We need to change to survive
Posted by: Democritus on Nov 5, 2007 6:02 AM   
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Ever since the end of World War II, we have needed an enemy to confront. First it was communism, and the red scare took us through two wars and numerous meddling in the affairs of other nations on the pretext that we were holding the line against the socialistic menace. Our toppling of the democratically elected regime of Iran's Mossadeq in 1953, and our subsequent support of the tyrant shah Pahlavi (and his notorious SAVAK) was just one example of such meddling, as was our toppling of the Allende regime in Chile.

With the collapse of the Soviet Union, we invented a new enemy--one with no real borders--labeled "Islamofascism," an oxymoron if ever there was one. Our invasion of Iraq was about control of their oil, not the trumped up charge of Saddam's having "weapons of mass destruction" and his cooperating with al qaeda. Iran was supposed to be the next nation to fall into line, but Iraq didn't turn out to be the "cake walk" the Bush Administration expected. Yet now we get the same, tired rhetoric about Iran's nuclear threat, and how we have to do anything--including the use of tactical nuclear weapons--to prevent Iran's potential for atomic weapons. This, of course, is dangerous nonsense because it might completely destabilize the Middle East. Far better to negotiate with Iran, using other nations as go-betweens as we used China to negotiate with North Korea.

What our government needs to realize--and it doesn't make much difference whether it's Democrat or Republican--is that the old way of making the world safe for capitalism (which was the real reason behind our meddling) doesn't work anymore. If you really are committed to a global economy, then you can't assume a purely nationalistic political stance. If the United States continues to behave like an empire, using any means at its disposal to feather its own nest while fouling the nests of other nations, then it will suffer the fate of other empires--such as the Roman Empire--with all taxpayer money going to fund far-flung military adventures, while the rot eats its way through the social fabric at home.

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Macho Politics
Posted by: Constitutionalist75 on Nov 5, 2007 7:33 AM   
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If U.S. foreign policy had been based on Constructive Engagement instead of blustering testosterone, Iran would have reformed itself from within and we would not be teetering on the edge of World War Three. But Americans allowed Bush and Cheney to steal two elections and occupy the White House for the glory of their corporate empire, so here we are, and there we go, blundering toward self-extinction by any means necessary, psychotic species that we are!!!

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Reflections on N Korea
Posted by: Gaubladt on Nov 5, 2007 8:13 AM   
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When the administration rattled its sabers at North Korea, they responded with a threat:
If you attack us, we will reap a devastation upon your countryment the likes 0f which they have not yet experinced.
With the ability to make dirty bonbs, Iran is already a defacto nuclear power.
That is just one reason why McCain's war chant: "Bomb Bomb Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran" is so increadibly insane!

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Since when
Posted by: hurricane hugo on Nov 5, 2007 8:24 AM   
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has our current regime ever been able to "rethink" anything?

plur

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Seven Bad Assumptions We Make About Iran
Posted by: flymulla on Nov 5, 2007 8:51 AM   
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Sir
i give up
You state seven. My sons say twenty and all are right on target. Only thing is my name is Mulla and not Mullah and I cannot state these here.
I thank you
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Who is this "We" that the author is talking about?
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Nov 5, 2007 9:32 AM   
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The isolated enclave of corporate media pundits and think tank wanks? The foreign policy academics of Harvard, John Hopkins, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, and so on? A clique of annoited experts who live in a hall of mirrors?

The situation in the Middle East is all about the struggle for the world's last remaining large deposits of oil and natural gas. The U.S. empire seeks to dominate the region through military terrorism, and while some call that "stabilization", it's kind of like calling the slaughter of innocent civilians "collateral damage". The actual facts of the matter are hid from the American public by the gigantic propaganda network known as the U.S. media - and the so-called alternative press is slowly turning into a mimic of the larger corporate press.

The wire services still do a decent job of delivering actual news, however. The rest is mostly slop, shoddy analysis that serves various agendas of the 'left' or the 'right.' No one knows what's going on in Iraq because so many journalists have been killed. Instead we get internal debates among corporate elites about the best way to pacify the region and achieve their imperial ambitions. Soft or hard? Economic manipulation or a bombing campaign? Which will work better in our quest for global dominance?

Absolutely amazing. Is everyone on Prozac? Some kind of new corporate brainwashing technique? Nothing but zombies - articulate, well-dressed, and witty - but zombies nonetheless. Their marching ground is NPR, the BBC, CNN, the New York Times, the Washington Post, ABC, FOX, CBS, the Wall Street Journal, etc. They've even made significant inroads in the so-called alternative media - which, of course, was to be expected.

In fact, right now you've got covert corporate propaganda dressing itself up in "alternative media" suits and spreading various forms of disinformation that rival anything seen in the so-called mainstream media. It's quite similar to the takeover of certain environmentalist groups by corporate interests with ties to the major extractive industries, from logging to mining to oil production. Who is who? Who is dishonest, and who is deluded, and who is just plain sloppy?

Well, that's up to the reader to decide. I'd suggest lots of cross-referencing - but again, in my experience the wire services are still delivering accurate information. Actual analysis, though? That's rare indeed (try Naomi Klein's Shock Doctrine, though).

Total control of energy and total control of information - that's the real imperial corporate agenda.

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5. Iran seeks Israel's destruction.
Posted by: Iconoclast421 on Nov 5, 2007 11:53 AM   
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This is probably the most important point. It's the same distortion that leads people to believe that anti-war anti-Bush people want to "destroy america" because they want to stop the madness. I could speculate all day long on who really wants to "destroy america", but I don't need to because all you gotta do is look at who is actually destroying america. Well, the same goes with Israel.

The people who decided that it was a good idea to attack and attempt to sink the USS Liberty.... those are the people trying to destroy Israel.

The people who decided that it was a good idea to irradiate 100,000 children.... those are the people trying to destroy Israel.

The people who decided that it was a good idea to throw Palestinians off their land.... those are the people who never had any faith in Israel to begin with.

With people like that lurking around what is the point in looking at Iran? Unless they are/were all Iranian?

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Wrong nuclear weapon.
Posted by: magus65 on Nov 5, 2007 12:43 PM   
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The worst part of this article is the assumption that the US government is afraid of Iran developing a nuclear weapon. Isreal already has 200 of it's own and Iran is unlikely to get one while it is being co-operative with inspectors - which it has so far and to an unprecedented level.

The real nuclear threat that the Pentagon cannot admit is likely to be DU weapons. The Pentagon has relied on the huge assymetric advantage that DU weapons have given it for over a decade. Advanced electronics and targeting systems can't begin to compare to DU as an advantage on the battle field, and DU unlike nuclear bombs is the natural by product of ANY reactor.

Of course the Pentagon assures us that DU is so safe that we could eat it for breakfast. Let's start seasoning the freedom fries in congress with DU and I'm sure we'll find out in no time whether or not that's true.

It's quite obvious to me. however, that the Pentagon cannot whip up fears about Iran producing deadly DU rounds while it simultaneously tries to sell it's use by the US as environmentally harmless. Hence the improbable Iranian mushroom cloud is trotted out for us to sweat over despite being based on outright lies and tons of misinformation.

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MaryS
Posted by: maryMS on Nov 5, 2007 1:23 PM   
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Hey, has everyone forgotten that we overthrew the government of Iran - CIA coup in 1952 - installed our bastard the Shah of Iran with all his atrocities, and then took over 80 percent of their oil fields. After 20 years the Iranis had it with us, throw us out and held our embassy employees hostages for over a year. Americans have such short lived memories.

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Choose One: Your World Leader on Nukes
Posted by: sofla100 on Nov 5, 2007 3:05 PM   
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Let's see now, who do we think is the most dangerous one with the nukes he controls:

1. Pervez Musharraff, leader (on the ropes) of Pakistan.

2. President Bush, lame-duck leader of the USA.

3. PM Olmert of Israel, his government shaky as the right-wingers want "more action" on the territories.

4. Eventually on this list: Ali Khamenei, Supreme Leader of Iran. But, presumably, he won't have the full power to just release nukes, because the military in Iran will have to concur. War power is divided in Iran, unlike the other (3) above.

Makes you feel we live in a real safe world, doesn't it?

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CALL YOUR REPRESENTATIVE NOW!
Posted by: higginslads on Nov 6, 2007 12:28 PM   
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A sitting member of Congress is introducing a measure to impeach the vice president of the United States and the story isn't visible on Alternet. This should be the leading story on a website that bills itself as an "alternative" to the mainstream. Some alternative! More like left gatekeeper.

For those who are interested in doing something constructive about our current state of affairs, please call your representative and urge them to support Mr. Kucinich's bill. The Capitol switchboard is:

1-800-828-0498
1-800-862-5530
1-800-833-6354

Just ask the operator for your representative's office. If you don't know it, tell her/him where you live and she/he will look it up. Once transferred to your representative's office, politely tell the person who answers the phone that you urge your representative to support Kucinich's articles of impeachment against the vice president. You will probably be asked for your name and address.

I just did this. It's the first time I had ever called my representative (Rodney Frelinghuysen in NJ). It was easy and I felt better after doing it.

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» OFF TOPIC NOW! (EOM) Posted by: Gakl
IRAN NOW HAS ITS OWN GOVERNMENT.
Posted by: Raymond Emerson on Nov 12, 2007 12:55 AM   
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Instead of fighting them we should be kissing their ass. Well maybe not exactly but they have a stable government that they are somewhat satisfied with. Their nuclear ambitions can be blunted by UN inspections as were Saddam's. I certainly wouldn't want a theocracy. They seem to be Muslim enough to want one for the time being. I think that if we will leave them alone that they are on their way to democracy.

Remember, the UK still stands for United Kingdom. They keep a king but have democracy. I have seen instances where theirs worked better than ours. I suspect that the politicians will slowly take the actual power from the mullahs. I think that they have every chance of having one of the best democracies in the Arab world. There are more ways than one to do democracy. Each democracy should show its national origin. There are more ways than one to be right. I think that they only need time.

I agree with the wisdom of pope John Paul. He said that there should be peace among the sons of Abraham. That means peace among Jews, Christians and Muslims. Blessed are the peace makers. Where is the flaw in that? The Koran has a specific line in it that says that Muslims are to be kind to Christians.

There are as many Muslims cherry picking the Koran to show that God agrees with them as there are right wing radical evangelical Christians cherry picking the Holy Bible to demonstrate that God agrees with them. Sometimes life is not very complicated. One is as wrong as the other.

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