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Portraits of Clergy Sex Abuse (Photo Essay)

By Nina Berman, AlterNet. Posted November 1, 2007.


Abuse is rampant among clergy, who, too often, remain unchecked in their power and unpunished for their crimes.

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Photographer Carmine Galasso's recent book, Crosses: Portraits of Clergy Abuse, shows the huge, personal price paid by survivors of clergy sex crimes and their struggle to seek justice from a Catholic Church intent on covering it up.

AlterNet is pleased to present the above multimedia show from Crosses and an interview with David Clohessy, national director of the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests (SNAP).

Nina Berman: There are many cases of individuals who are part of companies, or armies for that matter, who commit horrible crimes, and, invariably, the response by the institutional leadership is ... Well, it's just a few bad apples. How do you respond to the statement that the clergy sex abuse is just a few bad apples?

David Clohessy: First of all, no matter how you look at it, the word "few" is inaccurate. The church's own inadequate, inaccurate self-survey indicates at least 5,400 priests are proven, admitted or credibly accused child molesters. That's just the ones they acknowledge. Second, the crux of the crisis is the complicity of bishops, not the abusive priests. It's not "some bad apples." It's the barrel and the men who built and oversee the barrel.

Put another way, bishops cover up abuse because they can. Victims, parents, witnesses and Catholics who could call 911 instead report clear or potential abuse to church officials, giving those officials the time, knowledge, incentive and opportunity to hide the crimes. Those who instead turn to the justice system -- either criminal or civil -- often fail to expose predators and protect kids because of the archaic, arbitrary and dangerously restrictive statutes of limitations or because of timid, deferential or inept police or prosecutors. In either case, bishops end up, again, with the chance to abuse their power, protect their reputations, hide their assets, circle their wagons, consult their lawyers, and activate their public relations maneuvers and plans.

It is these men, the bishops, and their nearly unchecked power, that is the problem, not the "bad apple" priests.

Berman: In Crosses, there are many stories of victims being violated once by the priest/nun and then by the church, which fails to acknowledge and rectify the abuse. Why do you think the church does this?

Clohessy: The shortest answer is Lord Acton's observation that "absolute power corrupts absolutely."

The church is a worldwide monarchy. Each bishop is the king of his own kingdom. He answers to virtually no one. There are nearly 5,000 bishops across the globe. Their "supervision" comes every five years, when in small groups they meet face-to-face with the Pope. So there is no real oversight or monitoring of bishops. They can practically do anything they want and get by with it.

Any other institution -- a corporation, a nonprofit, even a government -- must eventually respond to pressure from its constituents. The Catholic hierarchy doesn't. Thousands of horrific felonies, callous cover-ups, distracting lawsuits, expensive settlements, and stunning media exposes have had little, if any, impact on the men at the top. No bishop takes fewer vacations, eats fewer restaurant meals, does his own laundry, or risks losing his prestigious job because of the ongoing clergy sex abuse and cover-up scandal. Given that fact, why would we expect them to change?

Berman: What dioceses are currently facing lawsuits?

Clohessy: Dozens of unresolved clergy sex abuse and cover-up lawsuits are still pending in Boston, Kansas City, Colorado, and elsewhere.

Berman: Can you describe a current or ongoing situation where a diocese has been notified of a problematic priest or nun and done nothing despite enormous evidence?

Clohessy: Consider Fr. Donald McGuire. As far back as 1969, his crimes were reported to his Jesuit supervisors. Last year, he was criminally convicted of molesting two boys. Twice in the last two months, he's been accused in civil lawsuits of molesting boys in Chicago as recently as 2003 and 2004.

Yet McGuire remains free while he appeals his conviction, and the Jesuits let him live with friends in a Chicago suburb. SNAP has repeatedly begged the Jesuits to force him into a secure, remote treatment center so that kids can be safe and that he can get therapy. They ignore our pleas.

Twice in the last three years, St. Louis' archbishop has put out-of-state, sexually troubled priests in an inner city parish with a parochial school, with no warning to the parishioners. (One had sexually assaulted a female parishioner who had got a settlement from the priest's home diocese. The other had been found with child porn on his computer.)


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the problem with pre-packaged moral codes
Posted by: Lector on Nov 1, 2007 12:25 AM   
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So many believe priests, even the Pope, represents God on earth. How long will it take them to see how religion, fear, has been used as just another power structure to control them. It should be obvious by now that a fear of all an powerful god does not deterred people from engaging in hostile or destructive acts against other members of their society. Religion does not tell us how life works. My sympathies to the victims of these bastards.

Pointless Navigation

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the Catholic Church is a hierarchy of dominance, exercising power from the top down
Posted by: Suzon on Nov 1, 2007 4:37 AM   
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Because power in such an institution involves trading favors for privileges, the institution becomes riddled with guilty secrets. No one can be properly prosecuted for fear of other disclosures.

Pity the people at the bottom of the hierarchy for they shall be exploited.

Is it possible for the Church to be democratized? It seems to be heading in the direction of an asset-rich follower-poor cult.

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Investigate leaders of other churches as well
Posted by: clthompson on Nov 1, 2007 5:51 AM   
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While I am horrified by what these priests have done to innocent children, this photo essay and interview only mentions Catholic abuse. Such abuse may even be MORE prevalent among protestants and this does not seem to be highlighted in the media. Just recently the prophet of a Mormon sect admitted that he had abused his sister and other relatives, and there are many other examples. This is a widespread problem and needs an intense investigation among all religious leaders, not just Catholics.

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» It's beside the point Posted by: LeeAnnG
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» not quite Posted by: war_on_tara
» RE: not quite Posted by: LeeAnnG
Robin Leslie
Posted by: ULYSEES on Nov 1, 2007 5:52 AM   
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Whilst acknowledging some factual content to the pedophile and sexual abuse phenomenon in general, and among the clergy in particular, these two phenomena constitute a contemporary scapegoat mechanism.
Figures for both pedophilias and sexual abuse in the United States, according to Philip Jenkins in his book Pedophiles and Priests show that of ALL Catholic priests ordained between 1950-2-001, only 1.8% were accused of pedophilia and sexual abuse. Of these the total number of convictions
arising from a larger pool of allegations was 2% of the Catholic priesthood in the United States.
According To Jenkins the term 'pedophile priests' is a misnomer, and ought to have been 'pedophile Pastors', for the phenomenon is higher among Protestant ministers and those of other religions. The reason for the high levels of amplification of Catholic clergy is due to several factors
a) Claims makers (those who take up the allegations) are respresented by conflictual and contestant groups within the catholic community, as well as those outside it, who share a common, anti-clerical and, in some cases, anti-Catholic agenda. These groups include feminists, gays, ex-clergy and a loose assortment of the liberal Politically Correct.
b) In the United States (and to a much lesser extent in the UK where I live)
there are still high levels of repressed and residual anti-Catholicism. Much of this primitive persecutory material is rooted in older prejudices about priest pederasty etc. carried by an initially sectarian Protestantism, but loosely held among secular and religious liberals.
It is not my task here, to defend Catholic conservatism, nor secrecy in the Catholic Church, if the Church wishes to combat the neo-liberal secularism that violates our civilisation it needs a policy of resistance and intellectual rigour.
Your promotion of this prejudice against celibate clergy is fatuous and magical. Incest is ancient, while we rightly condemn it, feminists, gays, ex-clergy and secular liberals
have hardly discovered something new. They should get their own emotions in order, and attend to their own persecutory predilictions!

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Clohessey cites ONE Jesuit and not Mahony's HUNDREDS of pedophile-priests
Posted by: JP2 Millstone on Nov 1, 2007 9:04 AM   
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It is very unfair and unjust that Clohessey would single out BoldONE JesuitBold when there are BoldHUNDREDSBold of Pedophile priests that BoldCardinal MahonyBold covered up, and the Christian Brothers, Franciscans, Carmelites, and other orders have more pedophile priests. To single out the Jesuit and put him in the level of Placa is an evil intent to smear the order as the "poster boy" of pedophilia. Clohessey as president of SNAP has all the statistics of the worse pedophile-priests and could have pointed easily them out but instead voluntarily chose the Jesuit; why, personal vendetta? Clohessey should be focusing on justice within the Catholic Church which is to oust all Cardinals and Bishops who committed the "crime" of cover-up of priest-pedophilia the most heinous crime against children in modern times.

Clohessey instead of smearing the Jesuit should have spoken about the more than 5,400 pedophile priests who abused more than 11,000 American children under the 26 years papacy of John Paul II -- hence America should and must BOYCOTT all John Paul II medals, rosaries, religious trinkets -- and give that money to the poor or the tens of thousands of refugees served by the Jesuit Refugee Service linked texthttp://www.jesref.org/home.phplinked text and America should not and must NOT call John Paul II a "SAINT" in AMERICAN SOIL as explained in the John Paul II Millstone linked texthttp://www.jp2m.blogspot.com/linked text

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Clohessey was unfair to cite one Jesuit and not Mahony's hundreds
Posted by: JP2 Millstone on Nov 1, 2007 9:36 AM   
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It is very unfair and unjust that Clohessey would single out ONE Jesuit when there are HUNDREDS of Pedophile priests that Cardinal Mahony covered up, and the Christian Brothers, Franciscans, Carmelites, and other orders have more pedophile priests. To single out the Jesuit and put him in the level of Placa is an evil intent to smear the order as the "poster boy" of pedophilia. Clohessey as president of SNAP has all the statistics of the worse pedophile-priests and could have pointed easily them out but instead voluntarily chose the Jesuit; why, personal vendetta? Clohessey should be focusing on justice within the Catholic Church which is to oust all Cardinals and Bishops who committed the "crime" of cover-up of priest-pedophilia the most heinous crime against children in modern times.

Clohessey instead of smearing the Jesuit should have spoken about the more than 5,400 pedophile priests who abused more than 11,000 American children under the 26 years papacy of John Paul II -- hence America should and must BOYCOTT all John Paul II medals, rosaries, religious trinkets -- and give that money to the poor or the tens of thousands of refugees served by the Jesuit Refugee Service http://www.jesref.org/home.php and America should not and must NOT call John Paul II a "SAINT" in AMERICAN SOIL as expounded in the John Paul II Millstone http://www.jp2m.blogspot.com/

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Religion & "True Believers"
Posted by: willymack on Nov 1, 2007 10:59 AM   
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As long as the human race has existed, shamans, witch doctors, priests, and other charlatans have recognized that a certain percentage of people were and are not overly bright and succeptible to any flim-flam presented to them. The first order of business for a charlatan is to establish trust to the point where his person and position are unasailable even to skeptics who would otherwise uncover his scam. From that position of undeserved respectability and immunity to true inquiry, any number of abuses are possible as witnessed by the institutional abuses and subsequent attempts at coverups and appeasement through monetary "compensation" for said abuses. Unless and until a majority of our citizens see orgainzed religion for the scam it is, the abuses will continue. Strength in numbers (and money extorted from "True Believers") will continue to shield and protect some of the worst criminals among us. Big Religion and Big Politics are two sides of the same coin as they're both bad for the health of the human race.

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"Suffer the little children unto me."
Posted by: UnEasyOne on Nov 1, 2007 2:18 PM   
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Don't remember the exact rest of the quote, but it involves wearing a millstone around your neck if you harm a hair on a child's head. Lemme see, who was the guy who said that?

Oh yeah, it was Jesus.

And his infallible representative on earth, is busy doing damage control and protecting the molesters. When that first began, anybody who continued to call themselves a Catholic and gave one red cent to the church became morally complicit in the crimes. This is a criminal organization, now there can be no doubt.

No Catholic anywhere has the moral authority to condemn anyone else for anything! Burying your head in the sand and pretending that the criminal who protected the rapists in Boston is not now being protected by the Hitler Youth in Rome is no excuse. With his appointments, he has guaranteed that the next pontiff will be as bad or worse.

In another organization, the pretense that it was an isolated problem might be possible. In the top-down world of Catholicism it is not. Anyone who believes this man is the representative of Jesus on earth, that he speaks for God, is quite simply insane. If you don't believe those things, you are not a Catholic. Simple as that.

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no accountability
Posted by: TagsNOLA on Nov 1, 2007 2:22 PM   
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It is RC doctrine that priests are not accountable in any way to the laiety. (The shepherd does not account to the sheep for his ministry but to the Master.) Moreover, RC doctrine stipulates that any utterance by any among the faithful against a priest, EVEN IF IT BE TRUE, is a mortal sin. The ONLY doctrinally sanctioned remedy against a wayward priest available to the victims is that they should pray that the priest would turn away from his sin and return to a holy, celibate lifestyle. The hierarchy and a significant number among the priesthood sincerely believe this doctrine and, among themselves, are outraged that any among the laiety would presume to call them to account for this or any other transgression. One of the bishops, whose diocese had been caught up in this unholy scandal, insisted that reassigning pedophile priests to other parishes was perfectly all right explaining that "forgiveness" of the wayward priest was mandatory in order that he might be restored, thus salvaging his ministry. Concern for past and future child-victims was non-existant. These clergy do not regard the laiety as "the Church." To them, "The Church" is the priesthood and hierarchy. Their interests trump those of the laiety and the prerogatives and career of a pedophile priest is deemed by them of more importannce than the well being of children entrusted to their care.
But, utlimately, the responsiblity for these abominations rests upon the shoulders of the laiety, whose tithes and offerings fund this unholy mess, as well as upon the shoulders of priests not actively involved in pedophilia but who tolerate it among their number.
These "enablers" are just as guilty as the deviant-predator-boy-diddling priests themselves.

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» RE: I had forgotten... Posted by: davidg
Just the start of total housecleaning?
Posted by: Gravitas on Nov 1, 2007 3:07 PM   
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The author was brave to take a stand. Certainly, what happened was inexcusable and should be brought to light. However, it is not just happening in the Catholic Church. It happens in many denominations. And among the secular segment as well. Also, I can't help but think of ritual abuse victims who still face an unhill battle with credibility. 20 years ago, no one would have believed that priest molested alter boys. We still deny so much that is hidden and underground. To progress as a society, ALL secrets need to come out, no matter how painful it will be to some.

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Placing the blame
Posted by: jontan88 on Nov 1, 2007 3:41 PM   
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As a former Catholic priest who is now married with children but still functioning as a priest in the Orthodox Church, I am ashamed at the response of the hierarchy regarding abusive priests. As many previous posters have stated, the percentage of abusive priests to non-abusive priest is small. In my 25 years as an RC priest, I came across only one case of abuse and that priest was promptly arrested and subsequently defrocked.

However, that being said, we have to realize that there is a power struggle in the church between the conservatives who dominate and the progressives. The conservatives have been blaming the progressive priests for the abuses. However, as can be seen from the secular political landscape, many of the most conservative politicians are the ones who are actually the involved in the sexual scandals. The same is true in the Church.

When sexually is unhealthily repressed as it is among most conservatives, it comes out in self-destructive ways. This is not to say that celibacy is wrong but that it is wrongfully understood. Christ Himself made celibacy a choice (Matthew 19:12) for those who were to be so. The RC church made it mandatory. This was not so in the early years of the church and is a discipline rather than a "doctrine" of the church. In other words, it can be changed. But with the conservatives and their unhealthy fear of sexuality, this won't be done anytime soon. There has always been a place for celibacy in the church but again, this has to be a choice.

So as with all conservative failures, things continue to get swept under the rug and ignored. Solutions are short sighted at best. But despite all this, there are hundreds of thousands of good priests who just do their job with what little institutional support they have. I understand the fury that many feel against the hypocrisy of a church that imposes its morality on others while having some of its priests not living up to that same morality. But please don't taint all of us with the same brush.

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And the true antichrist is
Posted by: vertical on Nov 1, 2007 5:34 PM   
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religion

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The hysteria needs to be toned down.
Posted by: leland61 on Nov 1, 2007 8:44 PM   
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In the USA we are faced with increased hysteria concerning alleged child abuse by a wide variety of panderers to the moms and grandmothers who spend altogether too much time watching nitwits like Dr. Phil, the Soaps and other hysteria inducing programming.

Additionally we have a wild-eyed bunch of pseudo-Christian fundamentalists who attack Catholics, gay folks and everyone who isn't a white religious lunatic like they themselves are. Taken together, in a culture which actually degrades both children and women politically, socially and economically, this is just another ruse to distract us from the real issues. All this hysteria about a comparativly small group of allegedly abused children yet 10,000,000 children live without access to fundamental health care because YOU THE PEOPLE will not hold the feet of the crooked politicians to the fire and make them do the right thing. If you care about children, DO SOMETHING ABOUT HEALTH CARE FOR 10,000,000 cildren and stop whining about what cannot be undone.

As for the Roman Catholic church and its priests. They are no worse than the protestants and their shameless snake oil preachers who rip the public off with their nonsensical anti-science and anti-life stances - upholding war and capital punishment and whining about abortion. Hypocrites one and all.

I hope that this successful lawsuit against the Baptist lunatic and his church that will put him out of business emboldens other people to go after others who seem to think that if they thump the Bible wihle spewing their vitriol, they are immune from the rule of law and common decency.

It is also perfectly obvious that many of the complainants and their lawyers in the so-called 'Catholic sexual abuse scandals' are interested in what sort of $$$ is in the deep pockets of the various dioceses. It is little more than legal robbery considering the fact that most of the money they are taking was put there the the poor and working classes who give money in good faith - not to have it taken away by legalizes theft.

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I wanted to post, then I didn't want to. then I decided I should...
Posted by: SayBlade on Nov 1, 2007 9:04 PM   
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... since I feel both revulsion and hope. I know there are pastors and priests who abuse. What brings them to do this? What attracted them to the priesthood/pastoral ministry? I have an inkling and the knowledge that all cases are not exactly the same. I am aware that this sort of abuse cuts to the very soul of an individual and the isolation it produces is crushing.

And, yet I see examples in the opposite extreme of pastoral people who give immense amounts of time to listen to and respond to needs above and beyond the requirements of their work. They are good people to hang out with, full of fun and they know they can lean on people in difficult times in the congregations where they serve.

The word "pedestal" comes to mind when I look at the stark differences between these two groups of priests/pastors. The expectations of Roman Catholic priests are unreasonably high. One example is celibacy. Celibacy is one unreasonable expectation since it is understood by many to be a gift. It is a rare gift and should not be imposed upon everyone entering pastoral ministry/priesthood since it is unlikely the majority possess it.

The same goes for pastoral people in protestant denominations. If the pedestal is too high and the expectations too great, then failure -- or even perceived failure, which is inevitable -- can lead to all manner of behaviours that damage the lives of other people in the form of abuse, secrecy and isolation.

If you can get away from the idea of a pastor or priest being an authority figure, it will do much to decrease the possibility of abuse. Don't put these people on pedestals. Walk beside them, not behind them.

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Deviant propaganda
Posted by: herbal on Nov 1, 2007 10:11 PM   
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Why does the media not state the percentage of Priest 'molesters' who are homosexual. Why are they never identified as homosexual and/or as the pederasts that they are?
Is seems that only with the outing of politically significant Republicans such as Rev. Hagee, Sen. Craig, etc. that social approval of the homosexual subcultures has begun to be eroded.

The identitfication of 'gays' with the Democratic party and liberalism is an absurdity that is revealing itself at last. What possesses people to assume that homosexuality has any correlation to political agendas? To do so is to create and pander to stereotypes. Witness powerful autocrats and fascists who are anything but progressive or liberal. They include Alexander the Great (conqueror) and J. Edgar Hoover. There is absolutely no reason to think that a majority of homosexuals vote Democratic. Why does the Democratic party hobble itself with protecting hypocritical gay Republicans? What is going on is a class war, as Greg Palast reminds us. Homosexual political behavior is independent of political pursuasion, apparently, but certainly consistent with social class.

Molester priests are all pederasts and the vast majority are homosexual. Why may they be associated with the Catholic church so often? Why are the pederasts protected even at the Papal level? The Papacy, in its infallible wisdom, needs to abolish celibacy while reversing its policy on birth control.

Personally, I count myself as lucky to not have been raped by queers when being hit on at age 14. But I was terrified just the same and can certainly begin to sympathize with the people covered in this photo essay.
Many thanks to Alternet for rebroadcasting this powerful sampling. There is a sad need to separate sensitivity for individuals, whatever their sexual orientation from deviant and perverted subcultures such as the institutionally protected 'gay' Catholic clergy subculture.

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Correlation between Pederasty and Homosexuality
Posted by: herbal on Nov 2, 2007 7:35 PM   
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What possesses people to assume a correlation between being gay and pederasty?

It is a matter of looking at proportions, ratios. This is from Judith Reisman:

A homosexual cannot automatically be considered a child molester, said Judith Reisman, president of the Institute for Media Education in suburban Louisville, Ky.

But with 17-24 percent of boys being abused by age 18, nearly as many as the 25 percent of girls, there is cause for concern, she said.

Since heterosexuals outnumber the homosexual population about 44 to 1, as a group the incidence of homosexuals molesting children is up to 40 times greater than heterosexuals, she said.

"You're looking at a much higher rate of abuse," said Reisman, a former university research professor who recently completed a study titled, "Crafting Gay Children." "The Department of Justice just released data and the rate of abuse are off the charts."

BSA's policy has been the subject of constant attacks from gay activists, who have convinced a number of school boards to oust the Scouts from board property.

In a story that aired Apr. 1 on CBS, "60 Minutes" also questioned its validity. After California congressman Dana Rohrabacher called the prohibition common sense, reporter Lesley Stahl remarked that common sense turns out to be a myth.

According to the FBI and several clinical studies published in reputable journals, gay men aren't more likely to sexually abuse boys, she said.

"In fact, the largest database of child molesters in the country shows that those who molest boys are over three times more likely to be heterosexual in their adult relationships than homosexual," she said.

But Reisman points to figures from a 1991 population study by the U.S. Department of Commerce.

It showed that 8 million girls were abused by age 18 by heterosexual men, a ratio of 1 victim to 11 adult men. However, 6-8 million boys were abused by age 18 by 1-2 million adult homosexuals, a ratio of 3-5 victims for every gay adult.

Read more at http://www.regent.edu/acad/schlaw/academics/lawreview/ articles/14_2Reisman.PDF

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Astounding News!
Posted by: scot on Nov 3, 2007 8:49 AM   
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Alternet is certainly to be congratulated on reporting this story, which has been totally ignored by the mainstream corporate media. While we are flooded with accounts of pedophilia and ephebophilia by public school teachers, Protestant pastors, rabbis, psychotherapists, athletic coaches, etc., nobody dreams that Catholic priests might be guilty of the same conduct at a comparable rate. It takes incisive critical thinking and a cutting-edge alternative news source to boldly correct the typical left-wing bias in favor of the Catholic Church.

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Another Crude Hachet Job
Posted by: faultroy on Nov 3, 2007 9:55 PM   
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Wow, isn't it most curious that while our intrepid authors chose to discuss the malais within the Catholic Church with respect to predatory priests, there is nary a word from the Bishops to allow us to hear their side of the story--now why is that? Could it be that they might say something so reasonable as to not only defuse and possibly neutralize the hysteria and hype of this diatribe?
So much for balanced Journalism...I really get tired of these Liberal Facists that see lies and deception in every conservative niche, but never bother to deal with their own brands of distortion, misrepresentation and obfuscation.
I wonder how many of these "devastated" people would be so vocal if there was not a "payday," at the end of their
" long suffering pain."

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Beautiful music accompanying the slideshow . . .
Posted by: fork on Nov 4, 2007 2:00 PM   
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. . . but I can't find any credits identifying the title of the piece and performer (cellist?).

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EXTORTIONISTIC CLAIMS - NATIVIST RHETORIC
Posted by: srjmsbnd on Nov 9, 2007 4:42 PM   
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For the longest our emotions are toyed with by the right and the left, who take the most glib irresponsible manner of addressing issues and who lack substance in their claims:

"David Clohessy: *** The church's own inadequate, inaccurate self-survey indicates at least 5,400 priests are proven, admitted or credibly accused child molesters."

1. where the hell does he get this from he quoted no real document as he suggests exists, which I don't think would exist because the issue is not addressed as I understand it a nationwide basis and there just arent those many priestsin any jurisdiction that is not national?
2. why was his source not specifically linked so that responsible people could research it?
3. Why didn't the "journalist" doing this interview psot that info and make the effort to make a credible claim.

I feel the left has been feeding into the anti-catholic basis of protestant sectarianism all too long, the left if it is really leftist should responsible handle and address matters not throw manure around and expect all Americans to be stupid enough to blindly accept it.

Mr David Clohessy states: "The church is a worldwide monarchy. Each bishop is the king of his own kingdom. He answers to virtually no one. There are nearly 5,000 bishops across the globe. Their "supervision" comes every five years, when in small groups they meet face-to-face with the Pope. So there is no real oversight or monitoring of bishops. They can practically do anything they want and get by with it."

But that is not accurate it is a self-perpetuating oligarchy much like any not for profit corporation whose board members have the power to fill vacancies. Clearly Mr. David Clohessy has played on our emotions as all too often we are treated by the right and left as convienent cannon fodder for every adventuristic battle their self-appointed gurus and messhiahs wish to foist on us.

SHAME ON YOU MR. David Clohessy I would thing you could do better but I guess you don't want to better than to paly the demogogue and present us nativist rhetoric as a nativists wolf in objective sheep skins.

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