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Rumsfeld Flees France, Fearing Arrest

World News. Posted October 29, 2007.


Anti-torture protesters in France believe that the defense secretary fled over the open border to Germany, where a war crimes case against Rumsfeld was dismissed by a federal court.

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Former U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld fled France today fearing arrest over charges of "ordering and authorizing" torture of detainees at both the American-run Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq and the U.S. military's detainment facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, unconfirmed reports coming from Paris suggest.

U.S. embassy officials whisked Rumsfeld away yesterday from a breakfast meeting in Paris organized by the Foreign Policy magazine after human rights groups filed a criminal complaint against the man who spearheaded President George W. Bush's "war on terror" for six years.

Under international law, authorities in France are obliged to open an investigation when a complaint is made while the alleged torturer is on French soil.

According to activists in France, who greeted Rumsfeld, shouting "murderer" and "war criminal" at the breakfast meeting venue, U.S. embassy officials remained tight-lipped about the former defense secretary's whereabouts citing "security reasons".

Anti-torture protesters in France believe that the defense secretary fled over the open border to Germany, where a war crimes case against Rumsfeld was dismissed by a federal court. But activists point out that under the Schengen agreement that ended border checkpoints across a large part of the European Union, French law enforcement agents are allowed to cross the border into Germany in pursuit of a fleeing fugitive.

"Rumsfeld must be feeling how Saddam Hussein felt when U.S. forces were hunting him down," activist Tanguy Richard said. "He may never end up being hanged like his old friend, but he must learn that in the civilized world, war crime doesn't pay."

International Federation for Human Rights (FIDH) along with the Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR), the European Center for Constitutional and Human Rights (ECCHR), and the French League for Human Rights (LDH) filed the complaint on Thursday after learning that Rumsfeld was scheduled to visit Paris.

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Faint Glimmer of Hope....
Posted by: CatDad on Oct 29, 2007 1:59 PM   
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"Rumsfeld must be feeling how Saddam Hussein felt when U.S. forces were hunting him down,"
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Maybe the French will hang him and the video will be broadcast on the Internet.

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» RE: Faint Glimmer of Hope.... Posted by: JSquercia
RUN, RUMMY, RUN
Posted by: EJW on Oct 29, 2007 2:49 PM   
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Need I say more....

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» RE: We need to run too Posted by: pammers
» What?? Posted by: dkm
» Huh? Posted by: Sparks56
Test Case
Posted by: Cast1stone on Oct 29, 2007 2:50 PM   
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Rummy is the test case for war criminals, (Bush , Cheney and Rice) travelling abroad. Now Bush, Cheney and Rice, know what we know: War criminals will not be allowed free reign in a civilized world!

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Constitution
Posted by: Constitution on Oct 29, 2007 3:12 PM   
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good for France

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» RE: Constitution Posted by: Jefferson's Guardian
Rumsfield's run
Posted by: eosrk on Oct 29, 2007 3:20 PM   
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Damned, and once again, saved by Capitol Hill

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It's just a rumor
Posted by: Rune on Oct 29, 2007 3:51 PM   
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The article does not say that France finally decided to arrest or prosecute Rumsfeld. It just says that Rumsfeld left for an undisclosed location and speculates as to his motivation for doing so. Maybe Cheney is in his undisclosed location planning Bush's World War III and Rumsfeld got a last minute invitation to join in the fun. . . .

In the end, this is about as threatening to Rumsfeld as the alleged attempt to capture bin Laden in Tora Bora. If the French authorities wanted to haul him in they would not have delayed doing so while they sat in their offices, allegedly trying to determine if Rumsfeld was in the country. (On the other hand, if they really did not know that Rumsfeld was in their country, what are the odds they could ever catch him even if they truly wanted to?)

This is just another sorry hoax to tease those who still believe there is some sort of law and justice at work in these matters, all evidence to the contrary notwithstanding.

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» RE: It's just a rumor Posted by: Cast1stone
» RE: It's just a rumor Posted by: Bozwell
Shot across the neocon bow
Posted by: Snowpuppy on Oct 29, 2007 5:21 PM   
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This is a warning to Bushies and neocons- they will not be safe anywhere because of their crimes. Too bad the US justice system is MIA: it's become "scooter-commuterized".

Bad times in the US. Which countries will now take the lead, now that 21st Century Rome has fallen to the dogs?

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» RE: Shot across the neocon bow Posted by: dsmidiman
» RE: Shot across the neocon bow Posted by: Jefferson's Guardian
Don't worry
Posted by: AlexLawyer on Oct 29, 2007 6:36 PM   
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Not to worry, Rumsfeld will soon go back to the good ole U S of A and take up a lucrative, cushy post at the Hoover Institution, and when Condosleezza leaves office she'll join him at Stanford where they can pontificate, shop and commiserate about how the ungrateful the Amurkan people are for their defense of freedom. Maybe when the new, ironically named Bush Freedom Institute is designed by Bob Stern--maybe he can look to Auschwitz for inspiration--they can all set up shop there. I hear it will be located next to the Josef Mengele Hospital, the Fritz Haber Institute of Chemistry, the Thomas Midgely, Jr, Institute of Environmental Sciences and the Alberto Gonzales School of Human Rights Law. Should be quite a neighborhood!

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» RE: Don't worry Posted by: Jefferson's Guardian
Brilliant!
Posted by: Jeanne on Oct 29, 2007 7:03 PM   
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Other countries throughout the world should follow France's example. Maybe Rummy can be held "hostage" in the USA so he can't spread havoc around the globe. It might negatively impact his ability to earn money, too. A global "house" arrest would serve him right. Gee, perhaps that would be the best way to serve up justice for W, Cheney, Condi, etc. since we know our Congress won't hold anyone accountable.

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» RE: Brilliant! Posted by: Jefferson's Guardian
Wishful Thinking From the Left
Posted by: neilrpf on Oct 29, 2007 8:57 PM   
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Did any of you America, (or President Bush, Vice-President Cheney and Don Rumsfeld), haters even bother to check if this information came from a reputable source? Never mind.. I know the answer to that.

Just because the leftists &/or European socialists wish for great ill to befall Mr. Rumsfeld, doesn't mean it will happen.

God bless Donald Rumsfeld.

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» God Bless Donald Rumsfeld Posted by: abbadon2007
» America haters? You mean Bush, Cheney... Posted by: photon's feather
Sorry, this comment has been removed from the system.
» RE: Wishful Thinking From the Left Posted by: blitzmesser
Ahahahaha!!!
Posted by: redstarwraith on Oct 30, 2007 3:47 AM   
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GOD BLESS THE FRENCH!!!

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» RE: Ahahahaha!!! Posted by: blitzmesser
Just the beginning!
Posted by: phindrup on Oct 30, 2007 4:16 AM   
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This ought to be the first move in an ongoing campaign against Bush, Blair, Howard and their cohorts. The campaign must continue until each meet their death. Let them never have a moment where they can believe that they are safe.
Have them jump at every creaking door, worry constantly whether or not they can trust the people guarding them.
If there is ever to be a belief and trust in international justice, we have to get these people.

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Finally, members of Bush's.....
Posted by: custersbud on Oct 30, 2007 4:41 AM   
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inner circle are being given the attention they so richly deserve. Every one of these bastards; Bush, Cheney, Rice, Wolfowitz, Feith, and Rumsfeld should all be hunted down like the criminals they are, and brought before an international tribunal for their crimes against humanity. Hopefully, everytime they set foot outside the US, they are pursued until they're brought to justice. Bush and Cheney in particular should spend their retirement years in Pelican Bay's solitary confinement or some equally unpleasant place chosen by The Hague.

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The Power of Nightmares - NeoCon Agenda
Posted by: weslen1 on Oct 30, 2007 5:02 AM   
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Just go here:

http://www.archive.org/details/ThePowerOfNightmares

and watch this movie. All today's top NeoCon players are here. This is what they've been up to since the 40s and all the top NeoCon leaders are here.

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What a coward
Posted by: packofwolves on Oct 30, 2007 5:10 AM   
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If Rumsfeld thought whatever he did was legal, why would he run? He knows he broke the law and he knows what he did was immoral, wrong, and against the American Constitution. I hope, if he never gets convicted of his war crimes, he has to run and hide for the rest of his miserable life. And the same to the rest of the Bush Administration. They are the real terrorists and war criminals. I hope they are all tried and punished for their crimes. To think our hard earned money goes to protecting these slobs makes me sick...what a waste of resources - just another Bush Bungle we all have to live with. IMPEACH BUSH/CHENEY/RICE.

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» RE: What a coward Posted by: oldwoman
» RE: What a coward Posted by: blitzmesser
responsible reporting
Posted by: psyopswatcher on Oct 30, 2007 5:34 AM   
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Why can't a real journalist get the police logs to see if this complaint was actually filed?

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Argentina
Posted by: BJ Barrington on Oct 30, 2007 5:50 AM   
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I understand Rummy is trying to buy property in Argentina.

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» Another baseless rumor Posted by: Rune
God Has Nothing To Do With Rumsfeld
Posted by: MeridaLady on Oct 30, 2007 7:53 AM   
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I am so tired of this God Bless B.S.. It is people like that who have made our country what it is today. Aren't you proud?
What ever happened to the Constitution? & Separation of Church & State?
& Freedom of Religion, for everyone else?
When is simple logic, humanitarianism, empathy, or any heartfelt desire to understand others ever going to part of narrow-minded existance?
I was in Tennesse for a time in the early 80's and a sign on a church there said it all.
" A bigot is a person who's not himself on Sundays ".
I had no idea at the time of it's implications today in America.
When those in power commit crimes against humanity, globally, for monetary gain, & destroy the American dream for it's own people, I say God has nothing to do with it!

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Shouldn't He Be Afraid Of Democrats In Congress
Posted by: Joe on Oct 30, 2007 7:56 AM   
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Guess Not.

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Rummy not the only one on the lam
Posted by: zipper696 on Oct 30, 2007 8:52 AM   
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..correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't "Ve haff no bombs" Kissinger have to stay out of Europe for similar reasonms?

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» Kissinger also cannot travel Posted by: drcyflowers
» RE: Kissinger also cannot travel Posted by: 1984NOW!!!
What's Rummy doing being a diplomate for the Us anyway? Wasn't he fired?
Posted by: common intelligence on Oct 30, 2007 9:30 AM   
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YAh, and those "U.S. Embassy officials" that sped him off, are they not guilty too for aiding and abetting?

And did you all hear that the state Department said over the week end that "they" were going to let Blackwater murderers of Iraqi civilians of the hook, making them unaccountable?

Yup, Accountability of the whole of the cohorts in war crimes by the Bush Fascists is showing itself to be very deep.
(it's no wonder why congress won't iniate impeachment proceedings. Better than half are probably guilty too!)

How many of you wrote or called your congressmen/ senators to Support Senator Dodd's bill to not give ammunity to communications companies that consorted with Bush administrations illegal wire tapping / evesdropping?

If you haven't.....better get it on. We the American People are in a War for Truth on the home front.
"Are you with us or againt us?" ,

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Wishful Thinking from the Right
Posted by: MeridaLady on Oct 30, 2007 9:51 AM   
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Don't care if the story is true. The point is: It should be true and would make me very happy if it were.
The so-called fanatics you mention in Europe are like-minded with a majority of the world!
But I'm sure that is much too dificult for you to grasp.
Maybe you should travel more?
No American on this sight hates America. how rediculous is that! We just see, as do a majority of the rest of world, what the American government has become & that reflects badly & sadly on us, who used be respected as a fair & just nation of people.

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» Don't B.S. Posted by: BTDT
» Elitist I think Posted by: BTDT
» RE: It's True! Here Are The Links Posted by: MeridaLady
Once More-
Posted by: WitchyNy on Oct 30, 2007 10:48 AM   
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France comes to the rescue of true American Patriots.

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Donald Rumsfeld CEO 1977-85 G.D. Searle & Co., got new President Reagan to prohibit FDA opposition t
Posted by: rmforall on Oct 30, 2007 11:06 AM   
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Donald Rumsfeld CEO 1977-85 G.D. Searle & Co., got new President Reagan to prohibit FDA opposition to aspartame 1981.01.25, history by lawyer James S. Turner: Murray 2007.10.29
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1483

In 1977, when Rumsfeld was CEO of the Searle corporation, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) was reportedly reluctant to legalize aspartame (NutraSweet) because of adverse effects on animals in testing.

On January 25, 1981, (shortly after President Reagan took office), the previous FDA commissioner's authority was suspended, and the next month, the commissioner's job went to Dr. Arthur Hull Hayes Jr MD, a medical doctor and professor of pharmacy. In July, Hayes approved aspartame for dry foods, overturning the decision of the FDA special Board of Inquiry.

Searle has often been criticized for unusual largesse toward members of the medical profession in the interest of promoting its drugs.

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hahahahahahahah
Posted by: yvonnecarroll on Oct 30, 2007 11:25 AM   
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hahahahahahhahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahhhahahahahahhahaha. The thought of that fiend running for his life makes me laugh and laugh and laugh.

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Boycott "Rums-fled"
Posted by: orfelbleep on Oct 30, 2007 11:52 AM   
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Now if we can just get everyone to boycott any organization or business that has Rums-fled, Chain-y, et.al as consultants, speakers or employees... maybe they will end up on the streets with a wet spot and a paper bag.
I love day dreaming!

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Not at IPS News
Posted by: BTDT on Oct 30, 2007 12:01 PM   
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Went to IPS News, where this story apprently originated.
Did the search -- couldn't find it.
Anybody else have any luck with the original source.

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VIVE LA FRANCE !!!!!!!
Posted by: SALLY EVANS on Oct 30, 2007 12:34 PM   
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THE U. S. HAS BECOME A NATION OF WIMPS LED BY AN IDIOT WHO DESERVES LIFE IN PRISON. WHAT A COUNTRY !

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Rumsfeld and Mukasey, Tortured Times and Trials
Posted by: Betsy L. Angert on Oct 30, 2007 7:47 PM   
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Dear All . . .

Please, say it ain't so. I was elated when I saw the charges filed against former Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld. This wondrous event coincided with the doubt about Michael B. Mukasey. There was talk, perchance the Democrats would not be duped or bow down to Bush as they have done before. The word went out nominee, Judge Michael Mukasey would not be approved.

I had hope. I dreamt the impossible could, perhaps would occur in my life time. Now, as I read this report, I fear I must again resign myself to the fact that the Bush Cheney reign lives on. Never will the Administration be held accountable.

I invite your thoughts on what I might have been . . .or will be some day soon?
Rumsfeld and Mukasey, Tortured Times and Trials

Betsy L. Angert
BeThink.org

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Quit stealin' material from the Daily Show
Posted by: alleybear on Oct 30, 2007 11:23 PM   
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Quit stealin' material from the Daily Show

ha ha ha - funniest s**t so far about any of the perpetrators of the Iraqi war. (more funny than Cheney shooting his friend in the face)

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FASCIST CONVICTS on the Lam...
Posted by: Mister_PsyOps on Oct 31, 2007 11:44 PM   
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Unless de facto corporate Fascist stooge criminals Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Cheney, GW Bush, Philip Zelikow, Condoleezza Rice, Dov Zakim, etc, etc, are held to account for a blood money "war on terror" fraud they and their cozy oligarch masters will do more damage.

In case there's any doubt... that future damage will be measured in uncounted lives lost and in hundreds of billions of dollars extorted from a public too naive to know that democracy has already been stolen with all the rest.

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Running Man
Posted by: dougo on Nov 2, 2007 2:17 PM   
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Run Donnie run! They're after you wherever you go. Turn yourself in and confess your sins. Turn evidence against your co-conspirators. For the first time in your life do something for someone besides yourself. Yes I know, fat chance.

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eddiemyboy1
Posted by: eddiemyboy1 on Nov 3, 2007 9:26 PM   
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You are probably right.Just a ploy to make us think that anything will happen to a powerful big shot.

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Rummy is Persona Non Grata In Taos, NM
Posted by: rgoalierob on Nov 4, 2007 8:46 AM   
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Rummy has put his property up for sale in Taos, because he is unable to go skiing without being hauranged by the locals.
You can run, but you can't hide, Donny.
Viva Nuevo Mexico!

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The right is always saying the French are weenies
Posted by: chief of okeefe on Nov 4, 2007 6:06 PM   
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So it is time for the French to prove them wrong, with Rumsfeld's neck at the end of a rope.

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Run Like Hell, Rumsfeld
Posted by: penobscotdziekuje@yahoo.com on Nov 6, 2007 9:36 AM   
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Hey, Donald. I hope you run like hell until you fall flat on your face after what your ideas done to Iraq. You better run all day and run all night just like Dr. Richard Kimble; but your plight isn't a TV series, pal. Feel your heart race as you scream for oxygen as the sweat glistens down your weatherbeaten face. Your heart is working very hard to stay one step ahead of your pursuers. YOU do not know who they are. Every face you see is a threat to your very existence. You are a fugitive of your own making. You represent the worst in the male species.
Time to ditch the clean white shirt and tie. And it's too late to lose the excess weight you needed to throw to your opponents.
You will reap what you've sown, your dangerous thoughts has wrecked havoc in the Middle East and you can't escape that.
In short, you have nowhere to go. Europe condemns you; your GOP inner circle has turned you out; you're a man who will always be on the run. That is called fate.

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» RE: un Like Hell, Rumsfeld Posted by: neilrpf
faint glimmer of hope
Posted by: yankabroad on Nov 7, 2007 8:10 PM   
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Faint glimmer of hope wrote:

Maybe the French will hang him and the video will be broadcast on the Internet.

That's the least we can hope for.

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