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Forget Impeachment, Put Bush and Cheney in a Straightjacket

By Rosa Brooks, Los Angeles Times. Posted October 29, 2007.


The president's warmongering remarks on the Iranian threat suggest he is psychotic. Really.

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Forget impeachment.

Liberals, put it behind you. George W. Bush and Dick Cheney shouldn't be treated like criminals who deserve punishment. They should be treated like psychotics who need treatment.

Because they've clearly gone mad. Exhibit A: We're in the middle of a disastrous war in Iraq, the military and political situation in Afghanistan is steadily worsening, and the administration's interrogation and detention tactics have inflamed anti-Americanism and fueled extremist movements around the globe. Sane people, confronting such a situation, do their best to tamp down tensions, rebuild shattered alliances, find common ground with hostile parties and give our military a little breathing space. But crazy people? They look around and decide it's a great time to start another war.

That would be with Iran, and you'd have to be deaf not to hear the war drums. Last week, Bush remarked that "if you're interested in avoiding World War III ... you ought to be interested in preventing [Iran] from having the knowledge necessary to make a nuclear weapon." On Sunday, Cheney warned of "the Iranian regime's efforts to destabilize the Middle East and to gain hegemonic power ... [we] cannot stand by as a terror-supporting state fulfills its most aggressive ambitions." On Tuesday, Bush insisted on the need "to defend Europe against the emerging Iranian threat."

Huh? Iran is now a major threat to Europe? The Iranians are going to launch a nuclear missile (that they don't yet possess) against Europe (for reasons unknown because, as far as we know, they're not mad at anyone in Europe)? This is lunacy in action.

Writing in Newsweek on Oct. 20, Fareed Zakaria, a solid centrist and former editor of Foreign Affairs, put it best. Citing Bush's invocation of "the specter of World War III if Iran gained even the knowledge needed to make a nuclear weapon," Zakaria concluded that "the American discussion about Iran has lost all connection to reality. ... Iran has an economy the size of Finland's. ... It has not invaded a country since the late 18th century. The United States has a GDP that is 68 times larger and defense expenditures that are 110 times greater. Israel and every Arab country (except Syria and Iraq) are ... allied against Iran. And yet we are to believe that Tehran is about to overturn the international system and replace it with an Islamo-fascist order? What planet are we on?"

Planet Cheney.

Zakaria may be misinterpreting the president's remark about World War III though. He saw it as a dangerously loopy Bush prediction about the future behavior of a nuclear Iran -- the idea being, presumably, that possessing "the knowledge" to make a nuclear weapon would so empower Iran's repressive leaders that they'll giddily rush out and start World War III.

But you could read Bush's remark as a madman's threat rather than a madman's prediction -- as a warning to recalcitrant states, from Germany to Russia, that don't seem to share his crazed obsession with Iran. The message: Fall into line with administration policy toward Iran or you can count on the U.S.A. to try to start World War III on its own. And when it comes to sparking global conflagration, a U.S. attack on Iran might be just the thing. Yee haw!

You'd better believe these guys would do it too. Why not? They have nothing to lose -- they're out of office in 15 months anyway. Après Bush-Cheney, le déluge! (Have fun, Hillary.)

But all this creates a conundrum. What's a constitutional democracy to do when the president and vice president lose their marbles?

The U.S. is full of ordinary people with serious forms of mental illness -- delusional people with violent fantasies who think they're the president, or who think they get instructions from the CIA through their dental fillings.

The problem with Bush is that he is the president -- and he gives instructions to the CIA and military, without having to go through his dental fillings.

Impeachment's not the solution to psychosis, no matter how flagrant. But despite their impressive foresight in other areas, the framers unaccountably neglected to include an involuntary civil commitment procedure in the Constitution.

Still, don't lose hope. By enlisting the aid of mental health professionals and the court system, Congress can act to remedy that constitutional oversight. The goal: Get Bush and Cheney committed to an appropriate inpatient facility, where they can get the treatment they so desperately need. In Washington, the appropriate statutory law is already in place: If a "court or jury finds that [a] person is mentally ill and ... is likely to injure himself or other persons if allowed to remain at liberty, the court may order his hospitalization."

I'll even serve on the jury. When it comes to averting World War III, it's really the least I can do.

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Crazy like a fox living in the hen(White)house
Posted by: vox persona on Oct 29, 2007 12:40 AM   
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He is either incredibly stupid, controlled by the devil himself, bought and owned by big money corporations or he is absolutely certifiable wacko (you may choose at least 3). Any time a president invokes the horrifying name of WorldWarIII, it is not an accident. This is is guy who told them to bring'emon, and they brought'emon. How may died since that taunt literally turned our soldiers into targets and magnets? Now he threatens the world with WW3? I read that as, you're either with me or I push the button. If CheneyBu$hCo only have 15 months left, and let us pray they go quietly, then talk of world war only works to raise market concerns and thus spikes oil prices, pleasing their corporate masters. The news keeps reporting daily that oil has reached new record highs. Coincidence? I think not. This is what the sheeple get for casting a vote for these demons, too bad they're dragging the rest of us into their third ring of hell. I've been watching daily, the US dollar has lost three percentage points against the Canadian dollar in the last 2 or 3 weeks. At that rate the dollar will be worth a peso soon. No wonder Cheney dumped his dollars for Euros. I don't put anything past these guys. And when they start WW3 to fulfill their end time theology, even the new Cheney house in Dubai and the Bush place in (where is it, Paraguay?) won't keep themk safe. B't succeed in starting 'the big one', those places will be handy to escape to when the economic collapse they engineered hits, or when the war crimes tribunals start.....whichever comes first.

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» Read "Bush on the Couch" Posted by: mcartri
» Why GWB? Posted by: Cathyc
What America Needs is Another Revolution
Posted by: yankabroad on Oct 29, 2007 12:51 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
The Entire system is corrupt.

America needs another Revolution.

It needs to start all over again, with a lot more love and compassion this time than before.

The country, at present, is in RUIN.

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» Hard Rain Posted by: Sparks56
It don't work that way, goshdarnit
Posted by: NumberSix on Oct 29, 2007 1:06 AM   
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Sad, but, yes, the constitution does seem to need a clause similiar to military regs that allow for a CO to be yanked out of the command seat if suspected of Not Firing On All Nines.

Maybe the next one. Let's look into it, yes.

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» RE: Just impeach Cheney first Posted by: Christie
Both Bu$h & Buckshot Dick
Posted by: drfun on Oct 29, 2007 1:40 AM   
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are former convicted substance abusers.
They brag of how they were CEO's of companies, which qualify them to run the country. What the media failed to disclose is that Harkem Oil filed bankruptcy and was bailed out by Bu$h Sr. associates. Haliburton forced its employees to wage and benefit concessions in order to compensate Cheney his millions in annual bonuses.
They have not fulfilled their sworn oaths abiding by the Constitution, and the pre-emptive "Wars" based off of lies constitute impeachable offenses (including many other ones), and trials of Treason for these heinous crimes should also be held.
before being turned over to the Hague for War Crimes trials.
Then the world would see that the U.S. is serious about its War against "Terrorism".

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Bush, Cheney, Limbaugh, Coulter, et al
Posted by: mizipi on Oct 29, 2007 2:16 AM   
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And while we are at it, several hundred members of Congress...the list goes on......Our nation is full of ignorant, insane, schizophrenic warmongers, which means our courts are filled with the same ilk. Great idea, but like impeachment, regular elections, or commitment to a mental hospital, none of it will work.

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It was a nice thought
Posted by: Lector on Oct 29, 2007 3:12 AM   
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Having these bums mentally committed is a nice thought but, practically, it’s too late. Like Bill Maher said, it was evident GW Bush was dysfunctional in 2000 so why didn’t some professionals come forward at that time when he had less power? Mental health professionals would certainly have to be “enlisted” since few if any would step forward on their on and jeopardize their careers. As for the court system, well, it would have to go all the way to the Supreme Court and that’s already been stacked by this administration.
There are in this country a handful of people who could sway and influence and possible sanction Bush but these powerful people may never step forward since they have little to lose whichever way the wind blows.

Pointless Navigation

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Pelosi is the loose brick in the wall of malignant maladministration
Posted by: Suzon on Oct 29, 2007 3:43 AM   
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Pelosi should be prosecuted for her failure to defend the constitution. We could begin by reminding her of Edmund Burke's saying that "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that enough good [women] do nothing" .

As I remark elsewhere today, it was the televised hearings that did for McCarthy. And it was exposure that led to Nixon's resignation.

The American people deserve to hear the story of what was done in their name. Getting enough votes is purely secondary to exposing the truth about Bush and Cheney.

The McCarthy hearings were absolutely riveting and brought America back from the brink. It could and should happen again.

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Do not confuse...
Posted by: chomsky on Oct 29, 2007 3:46 AM   
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Do not confuse crazyness with evilness.
They should be put on trial for their crimes against humanity.

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» RE: Do not confuse... Posted by: yankabroad
Please stop misusing clinical terms and concepts
Posted by: Frank J. Burris on Oct 29, 2007 4:15 AM   
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I work with people who have psychotic disorders such as schizophrenia, and it is this type of public discourse that perpetuates the stigma associated with mental illness. All too often, as we can see here, the term "psychotic" is misused to mean irrational. Clinically, to be psychotic means to be out of touch with reality. The Bush administration can accurately be called warmongers, imperialists and even fools, but their actions are calculated and deliberate. Perhaps this is Ms. Brooks' idea of humor, but I believe she's doing a serious disservice to people who actually have to to deal with the struggles of living with severe mental illnesses.

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» Thank you Posted by: EKSwitaj
» are you paranoid? Posted by: KaptainSpiffy
» Thank You Original Poster Posted by: hellofriends
» An insult to psychotics, yes Posted by: leafsong1
» who cares Posted by: hellofriends
» RE: Clinical terms apply... Posted by: WyrdSister
Impeachment is NOT off the table
Posted by: MyLeftFoot on Oct 29, 2007 4:38 AM   
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rope them in or rope them up...

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You're absolutely right!
Posted by: PJAW on Oct 29, 2007 4:53 AM   
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Labeling Bush, Cheney and the lot of them as psychotic is unfair to psychotic people everywhere.

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Not good enough
Posted by: packofwolves on Oct 29, 2007 5:04 AM   
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I don't believe it is good enough to give this administration treatment as opposed to punishment. They are war criminals and have put our entire country at risk, they have killed tens of thousands of people as a result of their warmongering, and they have trampled our constitution. This administration is the terrorist and I don't blame other countries for trying to arm themselves against us. They can get treatment after they have been tried for and convicted of their war crimes. First order of business is IMPEACHMENT but we can't seem to get our bullied representatives to do anything except cower and hope it all goes away on its own. REPRESENTATIVES AND SENATORS: DO SOMETHING TO RID US OF THESE INSANE IDIOTS BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE. What do you think we put you in office for?

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Oh, please.
Posted by: CajunCountry on Oct 29, 2007 5:14 AM   
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It's not straightjacket. It's STRAIT jacket.

Strait as in 'narrow or confined'.

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» Both spellings are acceptable. Posted by: KeepsonTickn
» *removes gay-jacket* Posted by: KaptainSpiffy
» RE: Oh, please. Posted by: Ellie1
» Well, yes but... Posted by: KeepsonTickn
Forewarned Is Forearmed: Bush on Iran
Posted by: Roy Eidelson on Oct 29, 2007 5:28 AM   
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The White House’s propaganda campaign laying the groundwork for military action against Iran dates back almost six years—to Bush’s 2002 State of the Union address in which he designated Iran as a founding member of the “axis of evil.” Since then, this drumbeat has waxed and waned as other concerns—primarily the disastrous invasion and occupation of Iraq—have often commanded center stage. Now, with the Bush administration approaching its final year in office, a renewed push and a shorter fuse are increasingly evident. My 3-minute YouTube video entitled “Forewarned Is Forearmed: Bush On Iran” is available HERE. It offers a very brief but deeply troubling chronicle of the president’s public warmongering and demonization of Iran. As has been said before, “the hour is getting late.”

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CNN interviews British Foreign Secretary
Posted by: pammers on Oct 29, 2007 5:45 AM   
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Wolf Blitzer interviewed Great Britain's Foreign Minister, his name escapes me. But in the interview he backed and said Great Britain stands behind President Bush, and agrees with everything he said.
If you call the president crazy, at least he is not acting unilaterally.

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» Rhetoric v action Posted by: Joshua Holland
Let's just call them character defects
Posted by: Urstrly on Oct 29, 2007 6:08 AM   
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In the End Times (I love appropriating Religious Right lingo) of the Nixon Administration, people close to the president reported he was acting erratic (sitting before a fire in an an air-conditioned room in the middle of summer, for example) and it's been reported that Henry Kissinger used the threat of a Nixon gone mad to scare the Soviets. But what did Nixon in was that a number of influential Senators, Democratic and Republican, saw that he had clearly violated the Constitution and tried to cover it up.

Bush/Cheney have not only usurped their constitutional powers repeatedly, they have rationalized what they have done and defied anyone to challenge them. Both political parties and the mainstream media have turned away rather than confront them. We once had a Constitutional government, and as far as I'm concerned, unless they're impeached, it's over. I'm not going to hold my breath that any viable candidate is going to hand back the powers they have taken.

In the meantime, labeling them as mentally ill lets them off the hook, because it implies a condition in which they have no choice. Make no mistake, they have chosen this course with no concern for the future of the planet. If they're crazy, so are we for trusting them.

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Listen to the Drums of the BushCheney EvilDoers
Posted by: Tefech on Oct 29, 2007 6:31 AM   
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Bush and Cheney might be out of touch with reality, but they are crafty and "successful" politicos who have done and gotten just about all they have intended. They will wage war with Iran to create crisis and chaos. Then we will watch them cancel the 2008 elections to remain in power. And the Dems will continue their patsy role and allow them to continue this fascist state. As long as Bush and Cheney remain in office this nation is doomed. And they are so power hungry and maniacal that they cannot just drop the reins. They need to be pulled off their saddles.

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25th Amendment Regarding Declaration of Presidential Incapacity
Posted by: drricklippin on Oct 29, 2007 6:33 AM   
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I wrote a blog in March of this year entitled "Call Me Incompetent -But Don't Call me Crazy" Go to archives March 2007

We need to rewrite the 25th Amendement to the US Constitution so that paid White House Doctors don't determine Presidential incapacity to serve. It is a blatant conflict of interest that serves no one well.

Dr. Rick Lippin
Southampton. Pa

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Johanna Moren
Posted by: Johanna Moren on Oct 29, 2007 6:45 AM   
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What is worrying about America and the situation is, that only 50% vote, the other 50% more than half voted for Bush.
That means that about 20% are against them. They can get away with anything with the lack of interest in what is going on in the country. How do you get the people interested in getting rid of them. The Democrats are just as reliant on the Corporations as the Republicans are.

It was the rising up of the people that stopped the Vietnam war, the Civil Rights movement etc. until the people rise up against this lot, nothing will happen, no matter what.
Johanna Moren

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» RE: Johanna Moren Posted by: yankabroad
Not Insane, Just Evil
Posted by: jim_altman on Oct 29, 2007 6:48 AM   
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So long as people fail to see the well-orchestrated cynical sub-plot to the Bush-Cheney machine, they will fail to see the knockout blow hurtling towards their left temple. The agenda of the current administration has been and will continue to be the acquisition and maintenance of political power. We're building towards another "October Surprise" that will miraculously spoil the chances of over-confident Democrats. After witnessing months and months of Democratic congressional indecisiveness and suddenly immersed in another pre-emptive war, the American people will cast their lot with another "decider." The only question is whether the Patriot Act somehow allows GW and Dick to remain in power if martial law is declared.

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» Criminally Insane IS Evil Posted by: Constitutionalist75
MISSING INGREDIENT
Posted by: Constitutionalist75 on Oct 29, 2007 7:27 AM   
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Rosa Brooks left out the key piece of the puzzle of Bush's brain - the influence of Rev. John Hagee who likes to speak of Biblical Armageddon and the Christian Rapture when a returned Jesus is supposed to crush all the enemies of Christianity and re-create an Earthly paradise for his true believers. Obviously, Bush has the Constututional right to believe whatever he likes, but he has NO right to apply that belief to the performance of his Presidency! America must not become a testing ground for the Book of Revelations, and any president who tries to do it IS INSANE!

Yet, as though in a hypnotic state of submission, Congress, Speaker Pelosi and the American people appear resigned to whatever madness Bush and Cheney plungre into, including an attack on Iran and the inevitable confrontation with Russia and then China = World War Three, which, as everyone knows would reduce the World and all of us to nuclear cinders! Only an insane person would deliberately do such a thing!!!

Therefore, if Speaker of the House Pelosi lacks the courage and mental balance to demand impeachment, the only other remedy I can think of is the well-known 'palace coup' solution in which a group of brave and patriotic citizens within the federal system go to the White House and arrest Bush and Cheny and remove them from office, before it's too late, before Bush can give the fatal order.

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» RE: MISSING INGREDIENT Posted by: Gisele
» RE: MISSING INGREDIENT Posted by: Constitutionalist75
» RE: MISSING INGREDIENT Posted by: Gisele
Question...
Posted by: Knowmad on Oct 29, 2007 7:32 AM   
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Can someone please tell me if it is possible to charge cheney &/or bush the same way France has done to Rumsfled? And if so, can it be done while they're in office?

I can envision a scenario where these two demented barbarians, along with their complicit good 'ol buds, are confined to the US, because one step on foreign soil and they're swept up, tried and imprisoned for life - execution would be far too easy on them - maybe somewhere that respects human rights and the Geneva Convention as much as they do.

It's too bad that you Americans would have to put up with them in that case, but you did allow them to get to where they could do so much damage, so it is really your fault. Otherwise there's always rendition - cheney seems to be an expert in that, among other sick practices. The only thing that bush seems any good at, however, is screwing up, as he's proven his entire sad life. Makes you wonder about his parents and his upbringing, doesn't it?

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john l.
Posted by: JOHN L. on Oct 29, 2007 7:32 AM   
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I don't know about this mental illness bit, and strongly suspect we are all a bit marginal at times. Where do you draw the line anyway, and isn't it a fuzzy one? It seems to me those who designate these things often appear somewhat flakey themselves. Which brings me back to my first statement.
What I AM certain of is those in the forefront of pushing for war are WAR CRIMINALS and must be tried as such, especialy in the case of Iraq and Iran. For some, Afganistan may be marginal, but they must remember "Afganistan" did not attack the 9/11 buildings.
Back to OUR war criminals, the list of their Impeachment Articles is too lengthy to list, and should be a 'Slam Dunk' for certain - providing we had actual representative in congress.

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» RE: john l. Posted by: mountainmama
» Too Late For Impeachment and Posted by: Constitutionalist75
Analysis
Posted by: mountainmama on Oct 29, 2007 7:48 AM   
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Bush has already been psychoanalyized by a prestigeous psychiatrist named Justin A Frank, MD who wrote the book BUSH ON THE COUCH. There is no question he is mentally ill! I just finished the book and am even more disturbed then ever about him. That he is psychiotic is a no-brainer! These are not just idle words.

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» RE: Fatal Analysis? Posted by: Constitutionalist75
» RE: Analysis Posted by: hellofriends
» RE: Analysis Posted by: Constitutionalist75
When the time comes ...
Posted by: Moe Snodgrass on Oct 29, 2007 7:58 AM   
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... given that they are both criminal AND insane, can we arrange that Bush, Cheney and company share a jail cell block with Charles Manson?

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Never gonna change
Posted by: Doggycuny on Oct 29, 2007 8:04 AM   
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America needs another revolution. But its not gonna happen because Americans are lazy and ignorant. They would rather retreat to their televisions and consumer products than actually do anything socially constructive. Would the rest of the world care if America goes down the toilet? No. The rest of the world hates America and would rather enjoy watching it implode. It would be like watching hord of greedy, scavenging rats drowning on a sinking raft. Good luck with your "not gonna happen" revolution.

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Ahhh... to dream!
Posted by: MTguy on Oct 29, 2007 8:04 AM   
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Impeach both Bush and Cheney for failing to uphold the Constitution as they swore they would... twice - first when elected and again when re-elected. Then indict them for the actual crimes they've committed - like wiretapping without warrant. (Nixon was a piker compared to these guys - they're in the BIG LEAGUES criminalwise!) Then perhaps allow them to be indicted by a world judicial body for attacking a sovereign country without provocation. I always thought that kind of behavior was for other countries, not the US.

I think one of the other posters was right when they said that until the PEOPLE stand up against what's happening, nothing substantive will be done.

I think if Bush/Cheney and Co. get us into a war with Iran and we have to institute a draft to provide bodies for the body bags, something will happen then. However, by then, it will be too late. If you think a lot of Muslims and Islamists hate us now, wait 'til you see what happens when we've got wars going in three Islamist countries!

It'll sure be Party Time then, boys and girls.

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» More importantly... Posted by: footman
» Act now or kiss it all goodbye ! Posted by: Constitutionalist75
Some of us still support Bush & Cheney
Posted by: bvdon on Oct 29, 2007 8:22 AM   
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History will look favorably on Bush and Cheney. Take yourself back to Sept 12, 2001 and ask yourself if you though we could go this long with no terrorist attack on America. Bush has done an outstanding job and he will be remembered for that. All you lefties need to learn a thing or two about leadership.

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» Moron test. Posted by: footman
» RE: Some of us still support Bush & Cheney???? Posted by: Constitutionalist75
» Looks like Posted by: hurricane hugo
» Sept. 12, 2001... Posted by: hurricane hugo
» RE: Some of us still support Bush & Cheney Posted by: photon's feather
» This guy is right!! Posted by: aka_bozo
Mental illnes is a cop-out
Posted by: photon's feather on Oct 29, 2007 8:24 AM   
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They are insane in the figurative sense, no doubt, but not in the legal sense, in my opinion. I do not believe that they do not know right from wrong, but rather that they know the difference, but do not care.

Other people's pain means nothing to them. If you must give them clinical labels, perhaps "sociopathic" might fit them better. Something more along the lines of narcissistic personality disorder or antisocial personality disorder.

Whatever their personality disorder(s), the ICC ought to be their destination, not a comfy asylum.

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» Aye, absolutely true, but... Posted by: photon's feather
» RE: Aye, absolutely true, but... Posted by: Constitutionalist75
Not Bush and Cheney
Posted by: CCox on Oct 29, 2007 8:47 AM   
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This focus on Bush and Cheney is SO wrong. They could not make war without the consent of the bulk of the political establshment (DP and RP). They may be bunglers in many ways, but they are carrying out what has been fundamental u.s. foreign policy since the late 1940s. The overthrow of Mossedegh was really the first shot in the current war, and Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Carter, Reagan, the first Bush, and Clinton are every bit as responsible for this war as are Bush and Cheney.

Get over the liberal daydream that it is only bad people in D.C who are causing this war.

Carrol Cox

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» BOTH Bush and Cheney Posted by: Constitutionalist75
gailhen
Posted by: gailhen on Oct 29, 2007 9:14 AM   
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I thank Ms. Parks for writing an essay on a subject I think a lot of people agree with. I know I do. I empathize with those who feel the mentally ill are being maligned in some way by the terminology of this article, but the fact remains that sometimes mentally ill people commit horrendous crimes and these two HAVE lost touch with reality and ARE committing horrendous crimes. If one cannot comprehend that the earth - not just a particular country - is in mortal jeopardy, one has lost ALL touch with reality. We are running out of ALL resources not just oil and certainly more important than oil - water, arable land, space to live - and yet the waste of all our resources continues with this horrible war and these criminal monsters Bush and Cheney now essentially threatening all humanity with World War III. Make no mistake, it WAS a threat and we are the perpetrators of that threat, not Iran.

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» RE: gailhen Posted by: talkville
Get a rope!
Posted by: Col. Jackleg on Oct 29, 2007 9:20 AM   
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The evidence is in, forget the spin.....GET A ROPE! Why? Because without it there will be no end to the psychotic crimes against humanity that this crowd of scumbags can perpetrate. I have lost all faith in the naive concept of a party in opposition, the Democrats are accessories after the fact and of no relevance. And just what the hell does anyone expect will change in November, 2008? Here come da chads, here come da chads..........

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» Mob violence is not the answer !!! Posted by: Constitutionalist75
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