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Low Morale Has U.S. Troops in Iraq Pretending to Patrol
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Phil Aliff is an active duty soldier with the 10th Mountain Division stationed at Fort Drum. He served nearly one year in Iraq from August 2005 to July 2006, in the areas of Abu Ghraib and Fallujah, both west of Baghdad.
"Morale was incredibly low," said Aliff, adding that he joined the military because he was raised in a poor family by a single mother and had few other prospects. "Most men in my platoon in Iraq were just in from combat tours in Afghanistan."
According to Aliff, their mission was to help the Iraqi army "stand up" in the Abu Ghraib area of western Baghdad, but in fact his platoon was doing all the fighting without support from the Iraqis they were supposedly preparing to take control of the security situation.
"I never heard of an Iraqi unit that was able to operate on their own," said Aliff, who is now a member of the group Iraq Veterans Against the War (IVAW). "The only reason we were replaced by an Iraqi army unit was for publicity."
Aliff said he participated in roughly 300 patrols. "We were hit by so many roadside bombs we became incredibly demoralized, so we decided the only way we wouldn't be blown up was to avoid driving around all the time."
"So we would go find an open field and park, and call our base every hour to tell them we were searching for weapons caches in the fields and doing weapons patrols and everything was going fine," he said, adding, "All our enlisted people became very disenchanted with our chain of command."
Aliff, who suffers from post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), refused to return to Iraq with his unit, which arrived in Kirkuk two weeks ago. "They've already lost a guy, and they are now fostering the sectarian violence by arming the Sunnis while supporting the Shi'ites politically ... classic divide and conquer."
Aliff said he is set to be discharged by the military next month because they claim his PTSD "is untreatable by their doctors".
According to the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA), the number of Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans seeking treatment for PTSD increased nearly 70% in the 12 months ending on June 30.
The nearly 50,000 VA-documented PTSD cases greatly exceed the 30,000 military personnel that the Pentagon officially classifies as wounded in both occupations.
VA records show that mental health has become the second-largest area of illness for which veterans of the ongoing occupations are seeking treatment at VA hospitals and clinics. The total number of mental health cases among war veterans increased by 58%; from 63,767 on June 30, 2006, to 100,580 on June 30, 2007, according to the VA.
Other active duty Iraq veterans tell similar stories of disobeying orders so as not to be attacked so frequently.
"We'd go to the end of our patrol route and set up on top of a bridge and use it as an over-watch position," Eli Wright, also an active duty soldier with the 10th Mountain Division, said. "We would just sit with our binoculars and observe rather than sweep. We'd call in radio checks every hour and say we were doing sweeps."
Wright added, "It was a common tactic, a lot of people did that. We'd just hang out, listen to music, smoke cigarettes, and pretend." The 26-year-old medic complained that his unit did not have any armored Humvees during his time in Iraq, where he was stationed in Ramadi, capital of the volatile al-Anbar province.
"We put sandbags on the floors of our vehicles, which had canvas doors," said Wright, who was in Iraq from September 2003 until September 2004. "By the end of our tour, we were bolting any metal we could find to our Humvees. Everyone was doing this, and we didn't get armored Humvees in country until after we left."
Other veterans, like 25-year-old Nathan Lewis, who was in Iraq for the invasion of March 2003 until June of that year while serving in the 214th field artillery brigade, complained of lack of training for what they were ordered to do, in addition to not having armored Humvees for their travels.
"We never got training for a lot of the work we did," he explained. "We had a white phosphorous mortar round that cooked off in the back of one of our trucks, because we loaded that with some other ammo, and we weren't trained how to do it the right way."
The "search and avoid" missions appear to have been commonplace around much of Iraq for years now.
Geoff Millard served nine years in the New York Army National Guard, and was in Iraq from October 2004 until October 2005 working for a general at a Tactical Operation Center.
Millard, also a member of IVAW, said that part of his duties included reporting "significant actions", or SIGACTS, which is how the US military describes an attack on their forces.
"We had units that never called in SIGACTS," Millard, who monitored highly volatile areas like Baquba, Tikrit and Samarra, said. "When I was there two years ago, there were at least five companies that never had SIGACTS. I think 'search and avoids' have been going on there for a long time."
Millard said "search and avoid" missions continue today across Iraq. "One of my buddies is in Baghdad right now and we email all the time," he explained, "He just told me that nearly each day they pull into a parking lot, drink soda and shoot at the cans. They pay Iraqi kids to bring them things and spread the word that they are not doing anything and to please just leave them alone."
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Posted by: bambic on Oct 26, 2007 11:10 AM
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The shame of it is is that this shouldn't be costing us billions of dollars when our kids don't have healthcare and New Orleans still sits in ruins.
Our government has no idea what "priorities" means.
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Posted by: Captainmagic on Oct 28, 2007 4:13 AM
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Posted by: itchyvet on Oct 29, 2007 4:20 AM
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I'm guilty too, of doing exactly the same thing at times, during my tour of Vietnam.
Whenever we felt, what we had been asked to do was pointless, we harboured at any comfortable location and sent in our SITREP and fictituous location.
This was not without risk to us either, as IF anything did eventuate, the armaments that were on standby at the base would be directing their fire at a location where no one was.
However, we weighed up these matters, and felt the risk was worth it, and in the long run, all the guys I did this with are proof and vindication of our actions at the time.
Good one fellas, stick to yer guns. (no pun intended)
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Posted by: davy on Oct 29, 2007 4:23 AM
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Posted by: Bright Penny on Oct 29, 2007 5:33 AM
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What I do not understand is why the military, especially the officers, do not refuse to deploy as Lt. Watada has. If they ALL refuse to go, what can be done about it?
Bush will not send Cheney or the Bush twins.
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» "When the war started, I thought it was wrong. But the troops didn't stop it, so neither did I."
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» Incorrect. Lame argument.
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Posted by: pammers on Oct 29, 2007 5:58 AM
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The surge is noticably working.
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Posted by: richholland on Oct 29, 2007 6:33 AM
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The original price winning movie was not allowed in the USA uncut for political reasons
Everything happen in Nam repeats in Iraq but the amasing thing is with the knowledge of Vietnam: How the USApeople who are goodhearted can choose a warmonger like Bush??
I strongly advise to see this movie again....
One of the characters, a french officer tells the Vietcong was trained by the CIA?(How about Alqaida??)
He also says( it is 1968); The empire has no choice, First the K0rean war, now the Vietnam war, who is next??
L'histoire se repete.
To avoid early death is normal and natural for a human being, to have somebody gives up his life he/she needs stimuli:
1.fighting for God or Nation, Communisme or Fascisme,
environment protection, Animals right. etc etc.
combined with fear for the sergeants and officers...
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Posted by: douglashoyt on Oct 29, 2007 6:46 AM
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There are thousands of Pat Tilman's out there.
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Posted by: johnrohan on Oct 29, 2007 8:50 AM
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1) Those who were complaining about a lack of armor were from 2003-2004, at the beginning of the war. That problem hasn't existed for years now.
2) I haven't heard of a "search and avoid" mission, but it would make no sense whatsoever, especially in Baghdad. Sitting in one place for hours only makes you a sitting duck for snipers - there's not a single soldier I know who would do something so foolish as that.
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Posted by: eddie torres on Oct 29, 2007 11:14 AM
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If they could get suicidal Pentagon contract officers to award phony contracts to phantom contractors with untraceable bank accounts for imaginary equipment and invisible services that will never be delivered...
If they could pay anonymous foreigners to act like homicidal evildoers in front of embedded corporate camera crews, and then pay them more to stop shooting the weapons they bought from Pentagon cut-outs...
If they could annex the Pentagon's Inspector General office and install an ideological crony with a pathological aversion to investigation and accountability...
It would be like... like... people from the heartland who couldn't get into Hollywood... going to Washington and seizing the levers of power... and producing and directing and starring in the biggest movie mega-drama in history... where everyone who counts could be a rich hero...
It would be exactly like...
Mission Accomplished!
The Untold Story Of A Gang Of Heroes Determined To Show Those Damn Liberals What America Stands For.
Starring...
Charles 'Hammer' Krauthammer: "We midwifed their freedom"
Donald 'Rummy' Rumsfeld: "Freedom is messy"
Eric 'Otter' Stratton: "He can't do that to our pledges"
Donald 'Boon' Schoenstein: "Only we can do that to our pledges"
Dick 'Dick' Cheney: "Go F_ck Yourself."
George 'W' Bush: "Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?"
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is a libertarian, secularist, non-violent, democratic, and
progressive group that opposes Ba'athism, Islamism, and
nationalism -- as well as the US invasion/occupation.
The Iraq Freedom Congress has organized a self-defense
Safety Force that patrols neighborhoods in Iraq (population:
5,000) and has reduced sectarian violence there to zero.
However, far from supporting this effort, US forces have
assassinated the head of these Safety Forces
(http://tinyurl.com/25yknr ).
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