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Your Privacy Is Someone Else's Profit

By Onnesha Roychoudhuri, AlterNet. Posted October 29, 2007.


Private companies have more control over our personal information than we do, as the new book, iSpy: Surveillance and Power in the Interactive Era, explains.

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On the 24th of October, presidential candidate Barack Obama, D-Ill., added his name to the list of senators, led by Chris Dodd, D-Conn., who oppose immunity for telecoms who have participated in domestic spying. As this debate heats up in the Senate and in the papers, Americans are confronted with an unsettling reality: Private companies have more control over our personal information than we do.

While the interactive revolution was touted as the democratization of information, it has also greatly accelerated the consolidation of power in the hands of both government and industry. Whether we're talking on our cell phones, paying bills online, or doing research for a paper, our communications now leave an elaborate footprint. It is these footprints that advertisers are so hungrily compiling, creating massive databases to track our daily movements in order to better pitch us products down the line -- or to share with the government.

Mark Andrejevic's new book iSpy: Surveillance and Power in the Interactive Era explores the implications of the disenfranchising of Americans in the interactive era. Who owns our information? How is it shared? How will advertisers and the government use our information in the future? Andrejevic sat down with AlterNet to share what he's learned through his research.

Onnesha Roychoudhuri: Throughout the book, you argue that interactivity does not necessarily mean democratization. Can you explain?

Mark Andrejevic: Living through the '90s, there was this euphoric set of predictions about the empowering and democratizing capacity of the new medium. I read that against what the current political and economic situation looks like today. We live in a society that has become increasingly economically stratified in the past decade and also increasingly unresponsive democratically.

Yet we're still bombarded with the type of claims that Time magazine made when it named "us" as the person of the year. Time says that the current situation is about the many wresting power from the few and how this is going to transform the world. The book documents a whole barrage of these types of claims. Very often they're made in the abstract: "Interactivity will have the power to challenge entrenched monopolies and overturn elitist hierarchies," "It allows the public to seize the means of production." I'm not out to debunk the claim that this potential exists. What concerns me is the way in which the celebration of the potential so quickly slides into a claim that this potential is being actualized. What we have to do is find a way to distinguish between the promise that resides in these interactive technologies and their actual application. And then to be able to distinguish between which applications live up to that promise and which don't.

OR: What are some of the technologies that fail to live up to the promise?

MA: TiVo is basically a market research technology. The people who came up with the idea thought they'd get between viewers and broadcasters. This is a quantum leap in the ability to measure the audience, facilitated by these interactive technologies. When TiVo came out, the New York Times said that against the background of TV, the history of commercial broadcasting looks like a Stalinist plot erected from above. The implication was that we were now overcoming the planned economy of mass society and realizing the true emancipating potential of this interactive society.

Similarly, Wired magazine has recently been making a big deal out of cloud computing. This is the movement of data, resources and even software onto the servers of companies like Google and Yahoo that makes it possible for us to access our data wherever we go. The way Wired magazine puts it, our information and our data resources are moving into the "Internet cloud." That makes it sound so airy and free, when, in reality, what's happening is our information is moving into these huge server farms that are privately owned and controlled. They're not cloudy; they're these huge constructions that Google is building along the Columbia River Gorge. Once we put our data there, it can be sorted, aggregated, mined. It becomes a huge treasure trove of information that these commercial organizations have control over and that very likely, the government is going to become increasingly interested in.

OR: You write that many of these technologies create a situation in which we the watchers are in turn being watched. The history of this has its roots in advertisers seeking information on the audience. One particularly poignant example of this was your discussion of Archibald Crossley, father of the ratings system, rooting through peoples' garbage to find out what people were consuming.


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Onnesha Roychoudhuri is a San Francisco-based freelance writer. A former assistant editor of AlterNet.org, she has written for AlterNet, The American Prospect, MotherJones.com, In These Times, Huffington Post, Truthdig, PopMatters, and Women's eNews.

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clean skies! healthy forests! privacy incorporated!
Posted by: KaptainSpiffy on Oct 29, 2007 2:59 AM   
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america is being sold piecemeal to the right bidder. you no longer own yourself or who you are. that, too, has been monitized! yay! make the pie higher to put food on yer family! etc . . .

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Friendship is a two way street (or no way)
Posted by: LMNOP on Oct 29, 2007 3:02 AM   
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Clearly, if America is going to behave like this to me, it can no longer be considered a friend, and has no legitimate reason to expect my support or concern about its well being, either. Friends don't do this to one another.

I will not actively hurt America, nor do I advocate that others do. Besides, it's not necessary for anybody wishing America harm to act. Just pop up some popcorn, take a seat, relax, and wait for the fireworks. America, is hell-bent on self-destruction, and has no enemy like itself.

And to you parasite trolls. Do not assume that we have any common interests. We don't. I don't care what you think or want, not for yourself and not for America, and I definitely don't want what you have in mind for liberals. Nor, I imagine, should any other progressive American.

So, the answer to all of you trolls' questions is: STFU and buzz off. Why would we care what you think or want? Excuse me, but, like Bush, you're still a conservative. You therefore demonstrate that you possess the judgment of a fool or a demon, and that you are my enemy and an enemy to the Constitution. Why would I care about you or your opinions? Why should I trust that you even mean them? Why would I or any other progressive want to help you? Tell it to the Republicans.

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Everything is a trade-off
Posted by: Lector on Oct 29, 2007 4:00 AM   
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but to the corporation’s advantage. It’s the same in Europe but so far I find it easier to avoid here. Everything is a trade-off. And we are treated like children. I am reminded of Pinocchio getting enticed by the circus-master, the candy and lure of democratization, and is carted away to become fodder with the other children and slaughtered. (hope I got the right fairytale) In my opinion the reason the US fought so rabidly against communism for so many years is that they, the US government and big business, had plans for their own form of control over its citizens. Using nationalism, religion, and other emotional opiates against the American people they convinced them the USSR (its government, not the people) was evil, which it was. But the insidious evil of American corporate greed and government corruption outdid anything the Soviets came up with. That’s why American Fundamentalism won and the Soviet Communism lost. The American people did themselves in. Our government and half the people are still against anything that smacks of socialism, as in a universal health plan, a plan politicians prefer not to share with the rest of us. Brainwashing the American public through television and media throughout the decades was easier than shooting them and endlessly sending people who didn’t conform to the gulags. Both systems worked but the American form of democracy worked better, was more efficient Instead of burning books like the Soviets did, our government cooked the books. The manufacture and manipulation of information by our government and the corporations that owns it, influences everything and it is no wonder that the Internet, which is supposed to empower the people, still exists. Although it does have its egalitarian aspects, corporations are using it against us, building up data bases of knowledge so that someday we’ll have a sort of society like in Blade Runner where the technologies ended up in the wrong hands.

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» Don't believe them Posted by: LMNOP
actually do think a lot of people already know how to....
Posted by: ellie on Oct 29, 2007 4:12 AM   
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ignore advertising, in fact make a concerted effort to not buy what's advertised, it's annoying anyway!

try to go out of their way to avoid being caught up in a data collecting project by not giving correct, real time information for things like store discount scan tags

know how to use other search engines besides yahoo and google

ditch the cell phone, love the look on people's faces when asked for cell number and say 'none', home phone say 'unlisted', email address 'none', marketing folks have no business in knowing such details, don't sign up for automatic bill pay

use gmail only for your own data collection, like notifications of your own real name popping up somewhere in a web search

control your own personal information as much as you can; ditch the credit cards and pay cash, avoid wal-mart like the plague, personally, don't even vote anymore

just the tip of the iceberg here, anyone got more ideas on throwing a monkey wrench into the data collection quagmire?

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I propose a new federal regulation:
Posted by: photon's feather on Oct 29, 2007 8:35 AM   
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Every owner, CEO, member of the board, or member of upper management of any company or organization, public or private, that mines personal data and sells or passes it on in any form must make all his/her personal data easily and freely accessible to anyone and everyone.

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Facebook / Aka "Crackbook" - Data Mining extraordinnaire
Posted by: footman on Oct 29, 2007 8:46 AM   
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What is "Social Networking" other than a massive open and free playground for data mining firms?

Facebook is one of the biggest data mining operations in history, and it's well known that some of their early venture capital came from CIA-connected interests.

The problem is most people nowadays are more interested in "poking" their friends on Facebook than they are in starting a revolution. The convenience of technology is the convenience of the corporation to harvest your privacy. "Harvest" is the only word, given they're only interested in mass information purchases.

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» Not to mention... Posted by: footman
Why does anyone care?
Posted by: billwald on Oct 29, 2007 10:00 AM   
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First, the Constitution only intended to protect one's residence.

Second, anyone who thinks he has has an expectation of privacy outside one's residence these days isn't playing with a full deck. The govt can access anything it wants. The only restriction is using the information in open (not secret) court.

Third, information only has monetary value if it is restricted and most everything boils down to a money issue.

Fourth, because I live off a govt pension anyone who cares could calculate my income within 20%. Why should I care?

Fifth, privacy in financial transactions and the existance of cash money mostly benefits tax cheats, pimps, gamblers, dope sellers . . . . If there was honesty in reporting most middle class wage slaves, govt employees and most salaried people, would see their tax load drop in half. Why should I care if my financial transactions were posted on the net? I don't do anything with my money that I am ashamed of.

I propose that starting with the President and Congress, all financial transactions be posted on the web. Then starting with those reporting over $1 million income and dropping the cut off point $100,000 every year, all financial transactions over $1,000 (?) be posted on the web.

Then we impose a 5% (?) tax on all transactions over $1,000 (?), half paid at each end, and eliminate all income taxes. Why $1,000? The poor, the working poor, and lower middle class hardly ever have monthly bills that go over $1,000.

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» RE: Why does anyone care? Posted by: footman
Unbelieveably, People think I'm kidding
Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on Oct 31, 2007 1:11 PM   
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when I tell them about privacy & personal security issues.

There is a great deal of difference between an eager man who wants to read a book & the tired man who wants a book to read. ~G.K. Chesterton

I mean... NASCO & domestic legal harmonization? With a country without habeas corpus but an avidly voracious data acquisitive government?

the Patriot Act & NoKnock Warrants?

Meeting 'Mr. Tuple': Six Degrees of INseparability: tagging, data-mining & Terrorism Scores

& as Canadians, they think we're safer than Americans.
yeah, right. YET:
"Canadian organizations are still lagging behind their worldwide counterparts when it comes to security strategies. Less than 10% of medium-sized organizations and approximately 7% of large organizations in Canada have implemented some type of Managed Security Services solution." (IDC Doc #CA8SEC7, March 2007)

While we fret that Canadian financial data be *not* processed in the United States... we're as vulnerable as Americans.

But, servers & packet handling being what they are, it doesn't really matter: it all goes through the same filters.

Even Americans who are freaked out about American privacy don't give a damn what happens to other citizens of other countries. You'll note that all the well-intentioned sturm & drang is only about what happens to Americans & American privacy.

but you've gotta wonder... is it the Americans or someone else who is stealing all that American government personal data & corporate finance data?

who profits? anybody with the balls to steal, apparently.

& for whom does the American National Security Agency work? for the people? for the government? for the corporations who own the government?

who freaking knows?
But we do know:
...steal big & you can call it an INDUSTRY.
...steal small & you're a pickpocket.

A man who has never gone to school may steal from a freight car; but if he has a university education, he may steal the whole railroad. ~Theodore Roosevelt

who loses? anyone who has ever communicated any idea in their head that their 'Superiors' feel constitutes what Bill O'Reilly sternly declares, "a distorted World View"

Combine your personal data, with your financial data & some strong statistical analysis... & your ass is THEIRS for manipulation or intimidation.

Meanwhile, apathy & cowardly indecision reigns...

Canada execs not confident in data security: survey
Reuters, October 24, 2007
TORONTO - Almost half of Canadian executives aren't confident that their company's private information is secure & more than a third admit to taking no action despite recent headlines about high-profile security breaches, a new survey has found.

As well, one in five executives at Canadian companies said his or her company currently doesn't use anti-virus software & 25 % operate without firewall applications, according to the survey conducted by Leger Marketing & released on Wednesday. ...
"Many executives are speeding down the information superhighway without a seat belt & putting businesses & consumers at risk," Fusepoint chief executive George Kerns said in a statement. "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of protection when it comes to sensitive data." - Reuters 2007

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Privacy and Privatization
Posted by: talkville on Nov 1, 2007 2:31 AM   
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The word private in its Latin roots refers to divesting to freeing from. This is the Great Information Age and the Age of Privatization (the Milton Friedman guide to Nirvana). It's Private (read: Corporate as well as Individual) and facilitated and habilitated by the State -- here, there and everywhere (read Federal Reserve, IMF, WTO etc). It FREES assets (properties) from the Public on all levels. And it frees everything from one to another. Thus one entity privatizes, another is de-privatized; what one gets, the other loses.

Among the valuable assets possessed by individuals in the public arena are not only labor-power but personal information and data about their behaviors. Who might want to privatize such things, I wonder? Yelling Freedom!, the Internet Provider will free the subscriber from information related to him or her aside from other property in the form of money. They get much more than my subscription price! they get a surplus VALUE, which they can USE and, by means of relaxing and expanding THEIR freedom, they get the slavish assistance of the State by means of "de-regulation" measures. A "win-win"!! The State and the Corporation makes out like -- uhhh a BANDIT?? a PIRATE??

Any poor person and even many who consider themselves amongst the "middle-classes" could tell you. If you think there's such a thing as privacy (other than Corporate and State) in this country today, there's some prime land in Florida to buy real cheap!

Whether in daily life or public life, any individual who "steps out of line" in any aspect of behavior or action today will be immediately surprised by a loud knock on the door and a friendly Police-man or FBI man giving you some information for free!: you can be held without access to lawyers or others for as long as we want; or alternatively, your friendly social worker or might give you a call announcing your "inappropriate dress" at the park concert the other day or similar things.

Some of us, more than one may care to acknowledge, are VERY free -- freed from anything we own, including our internal mental and emotional processes. Ah! the sweetness of Liberty!! We've been Privatized!

On the ground, the fact is that the only entities which can enjoy a GUARANTEED privacy in this country today are Corporate and State entities and real individuals who are inside them. Anyone working in a corporate environment is aware of this: they will guarantee you NO right to privacy -- that's 40, 60, 80, 100 hours per week of your time. The State takes care of your off-time.

Like it or not, we're in the "land of the free" and the freed-from. Welcome to the New American Century. Fascism and Imperialism and any which way but loose. It's the phase of "structural adjustment" and the structures are not only outside but within you and me. Shred all you want to protect from the petty criminals, but try withholding your phone number, your address, your social security number, bank and credit information, even at the local grocery store (which very friendly take it down to give you a 'savings card' and this helps them track your purchases and on and on and on).

To think one has privacy today is to rely on faith-based thinking. We know where that leads.

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