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NY Times Book Review Smears Katha Pollitt

By Susan J. Douglas, In These Times. Posted October 24, 2007.


The New York Times Book Review's recent nasty review of Katha Pollitt's memoir is only the latest in a long line of outlandish attacks on feminists.

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Don't become a feminist. I mean it. Because then you might end up like Katha Pollitt. Wait, isn't Pollitt an award-winning poet and columnist? Isn't her "Subject to Debate" column what most of us turn to first when The Nation arrives? As the sharpest feminist commentator in the country, doesn't Pollitt make feminism seem cool?

Not if you're the New York Times Book Review, which has rarely met a feminist it liked. The former ballerina Toni Bentley, author of a book on the delights of crotchless panties and the epiphanies of anal sex (I quote: a "direct path ... to God"), was assigned to review Pollitt's latest collection of essays, Learning to Drive and Other Life Stories, and apparently didn't like it. Fair enough. But Bentley, possibly disappointed by the lack of sodomy, used her review as an opportunity to trash feminists and to trash Pollitt for both being one and not being one who is stereotypical enough.

"Groaning and moaning from clever, sassy women has become a genre unto itself," writes Bentley of feminist writings, "the righteous revenge of the liberal, pre-, during- or postmenopausal woman," meaning that even feminists cannot escape from being governed by their hormones and their wombs. Feminists, as we know, are always angry and "shrill"; they are "enraged, educated women" whom Bentley labels "vagina dentate intellectuals."

Back in the early '70s when women's liberation became a major news story, the most frequently used image to illustrate the movement was a woman learning karate; male editors actually insisted on this. That way, you could convey quickly that all feminists were threatening, man-hating Ninjas. Similarly, Bentley likens the feminist writer to "a kind of intellectual Mike Tyson" (now there's an oxymoron!) whose "pugnacious prose is her lethal weapon." But what feminists really need -- heard this before? -- is a good fuck. "[S]he is still not as likely to be seduced into bed as the bombshell bimbo, one reason she's so irate." Ignoring a host of recent feminist books, particularly those written by young women, Bentley cites Daphne Merkin's essay about being spanked.

Bentley's review is part of a robust tradition in the Times Book Review to stereotype feminists as single-minded, humorless ideologues who march daily to some shrine where we all genuflect before images of Elizabeth Cady Stanton and then impose a rigid dogma on all other women. In Karen Lehrman's June 1997 review of Meredith Maran's memoir Notes From an Incomplete Revolution, Lehrman informed readers that feminism, for women, is about being able to "spit, smoke and sit with their legs apart," that "good feminism" invariably produces "bad mothering" and that the women's movement has "a line" about how all women should behave. Feminism is "outdated, repressive and condescending."

This wasn't surprising given that Lehrman was author of The Lipstick Proviso, which argued that women should reject feminism because what feminism is really about is forbidding women to wear lipstick or pantyhose. Even in Laura Miller's critical review of Lehrman's book, we learned that a "handful of college professors" and women in "women's studies programs" do fit Lehrman's stereotype of feminists as "a battalion of scolding academics who condemn makeup." What feminists want for most women, as the title of this review suggests, is to be "Oppressed by Liberation."

Pollitt was also profiled in the New York Times Magazine, and here the focus was on whether Learning to Drive -- a personal memoir about motherhood, aging and betrayal by her boyfriend of seven years -- made her a traitor to feminism. Did admitting to her fear of and inability to drive actually reinforce stereotypes about "female ineptitude and ditziness?" What did her "girlish confession" about her anguish over her boyfriend's philandering "say about the current state of feminism," as if one person, however prominent, stood for millions of others? Pollitt was also asked about the proliferation of nail salons, as if that somehow indicated that women no longer want equality.

Why is it unimaginable that the millions of feminists in this country might be complex people? That they might also have a sense of humor? Feminists, especially in the age of Bush, couldn't make it from one end of the day to the next without a sardonic joke and a good laugh. Indeed, as Pollitt's new book lays out in often eloquent and unsparing honesty, women -- even ones as formidable as Pollitt -- remain pulled between the powerfully competing ideologies of feminism and anti-feminism, between feminism and femininity.

Women, especially young women, are not about to give up the gains won by feminism, but they also see the costs of failing to conform to a narrow, corporate definition of femininity. This ongoing negotiation of defying yet acquiescing to prevailing norms about what a good, enviable, worthwhile woman should be is the story of most of our lives, nearly 40 years after the second wave. Stereotypes of feminists such as those proffered by the Times misrepresent and demonize women of all ages who continue to push for equality of opportunity for all, which has yet to be achieved.

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Susan J. Douglas is a professor of communications at the University of Michigan and author of "The Mommy Myth: The Idealization of Motherhood and How it Has Undermined Women."

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Call us indigestible
Posted by: hagwind on Oct 24, 2007 4:56 AM   
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Why is it unimaginable that the millions of feminists in this country might be complex people? That they might also have a sense of humor? Feminists, especially in the age of Bush, couldn't make it from one end of the day to the next without a sardonic joke and a good laugh.

Over the years I've become more and more obsessed with such questions. Not that feminists, individually and in groups small and large, haven't made plenty of mistakes and taken some wrong turns. There are some feminists I strenuously disagree with on a variety of issues, and whole tendencies within feminism that I think are shortsighted or even wrong-headed, but that doesn't invalidate the whole, huge, incredibly diverse movement. Might as well say that a few unfortunate election results invalidate the whole idea of electoral democracy -- or even that the unfortunate performance of the world's largest electoral democracy invalidates the idea of electoral democracy.

Some people do indeed argue along those lines, but what they generally want to do is put their particular god in charge. Those people are almost invariably hostile to feminism. This doesn't surprise me in the least. What surprises me is the hostility of moderates, liberals, and leftists who are not big fans of the patriarchal One God -- of, for instance, the New York Times Book Review editors who commission and publish the kind of review that willfully misunderstands a book and tries to stifle the conversation instead of enrich and extend it.

Feminism seems to be indigestible to these people in a way that other progressive movements are not. It literally sticks in their craw. They manage to defuse the power of other progressive movements by patronizing and coopting them, but feminism, it seems, on some level resists patronizing and cooptation. So the only thing to do is to stomp on it hard whenever it rears its indigestible head. This is encouraging in a paradoxical sort of way: it suggests that feminism is important, and that we're on the right track.

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» Katha Pollit, She da man. Posted by: yellow
Feminism is Dead Again
Posted by: Arlene on Oct 24, 2007 6:06 AM   
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I have been hearing for 60+ years that women who don't worship the patriarchy will come to a bad end. The NYT review is just another riff on the same old same old, sort of like the commies hiding under the bed when I was a kid.
I recall in the 1970's a Wall Street editorial where the writer wondered in print why feminists weren't offended by a cartoon depicting a feminist as a Wagnerian soprano complete with horned helmet. Silly man. Anyone familiar with Wagner knows it takes a powerful woman to play a Wagnerian heroine.

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Feminist persecution complex on display
Posted by: Q30 on Oct 24, 2007 6:28 AM   
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"Not if you're the New York Times Book Review, which has rarely met a feminist it liked"

Odd. Seeing as how they've consistently given positive book reviews to the factually-challenged crap which was put-out by loony propagandists like Andrea Dworkin and Cathy MacKinnon- in fact the NY times even solicited MacKinnon to write Dworkin's obituary peice.

Yeah, real organ of the Patriarchy right there.

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Getting Feminism
Posted by: nova510 on Oct 24, 2007 6:37 AM   
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I heartily agree with Hagwind that a lot of people still don't get feminism, rail against whatever it is that they don't get, and then sing the praises of their own thing, whatever it may be--from sodomy to the Rapture--and that this is, in fact, an indication that feminism is working. Touche!

On another blog, I noted that "feminism has always been about the deeply human, about unearthing the massive number of human characteristics and attributes that had been squirreled away over the millennia in a cult of female domesticity considered unfit for public life. Since those human qualities had been assigned to women, it was understandably women who felt the most pressing need to un-bury them. . . . The goal, however, was never to trade places with men or, as one writer put it, to simply 'add women and stir' the masculinized public pot, but to find and allow a better balance of the full range of human qualities for both women and men, both personally and publicly. Feminism has been and remains a much-needed balance to 'masculinism' wherever it occurs in the overall project of greater humanness for all."

As feminist theologian Rosemary Radford Ruether pointed out decades ago, those who rally 'round stereotypical gendered divisions take what is merely a *reproductive* difference between humans and create entire life scripts around it. Apparently, the NYT "reviewer" is still exploring that particular difference and doesn't really want to seriously examine other matters. In such instances, it doesn't hurt to reiterate the basics for those who do.

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One of my fav issues...
Posted by: bobtr900 on Oct 24, 2007 7:18 AM   
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...is the feminist movement.

Since my undergrad days in 1961, I have been and continue to be a strong supporter of womens issues.

For those new to this long issue just begin your studies of the women's movement by looking up Phyllis Schlafly(Catholic) Though I be a Catholic, I abhor what she and the Catholic Church have perpetrated upon women.

Schlafly, founder of the Eagle Forum/Eagle Council was the very point of the spear that wrecked the Equal Rights Amendment(ERA).

The Catholic Church has for almost 1900 yrs of it's 2000 yr history been at the forefront of keeping/forcing women into a third class status, after men and children. However, by condemning women to this powerless third class status it also puts children into a powerless third class status because of the symbiotic relationship among women and children

This third class status of barefoot, pregnant, cooking, baby machines who are subservient to men is exactly what causes
and puts women into poverty and greatly contributes to the need/ reason why women seek abortions.

All fundamentalist religions follow the Catholic Church in this agenda against women. One could easily make the point that the Catholic Church is the single greatest cause of this anti female mindset because the Church came before Islam and Protestantism/ evangelical fundamentalism.

One might even say, and easily say, that there is almost no difference between the various fundamentalist religions, be they Catholic, Evangelical Fundies(Falwell, Robertson, Hagee and Dobson etc. etc.) Mormon fundies, and their brethren the Islamic fundies, all of whom suppress women. They are screaming that such a statement is false, because they claim they do not kill; but they do kill. They kill our troops and their families, Iraqis and their families, Afghanis and their families etc. Yup, you got the idea. And they all exercise great, smothering and deadly control over women.

All of these fundie religions are male dominated, absolutist, dogmatic and authoritarian religions. Way far too much testosterone... or what?

I would further agree with Kathleen Kennedy Townsend when she says the Catholic Church just does not know what to do with women(almost an exact quote). But the wonderful Mrs. Townsend, a highly intelligent/ possibly brilliant woman and former Lt. Governor is too kind to her Church and mine. I would go much farther/ or is it further, as my statements indicate.

The suppression of women is very possibly the greatest/ most grievous sin of all time. Will the Church ever admit it's HUGE role in the suppression of half of our species, the female half, and quite possibly the better half. Certainly the least destructive half.

We men have not done a very good job of managing and caring for our world. What exactly is/are the Catholic Church and the other fundie religions so afraid of, maybe terrified of. What exactly are a bunch of old sexually repressed and sexually obsessed men in the Vatican so afraid of.

The Catholic Church is obsessed with sex, other peoples sex lives. This almost vicarious and juvenile obsession with sex is a hallmark of many/most/all right wing fundie religions.

But then the Church was before, during and after WWII also aligned with Hitler and the Nazi Party, just a prior iteration of todays Republican Party. They killed the Jews then and are about killing Muslims now.

And this is what they call Pro-life and family values. In reality it is nothing more than death for profits, Republican, Corporate profits. Money, money, money...

Stop suppressing women and the world will become a way far better place.

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» RE: One of my fav issues... Posted by: tap17x
» Great Post! Posted by: Cathyc
Edward
Posted by: edsmithparis on Oct 24, 2007 7:20 AM   
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As the partner of a former ballerina who is also a strong feminist, a strong woman and a sensuous one, I would like to point out that to be a 'former ballerina' isn't necessarily a bad thing. I don't know anything about the NY Times reviewer. There are better book reviews than the NY Times one. Katha Pollitt is marvellous. I wonder if Jenny Diski has ever written about her!

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» RE: Edward Posted by: hagwind
The NYT Book Review, by policy, assigns
Posted by: BenCaxton12 on Oct 24, 2007 7:45 AM   
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'fair and balanced' reviewers ...

So, for example, Christopher Hitchens gets "Harry Potter: The Deathly Hallows" to review -- through the prisim of Hitchens own traumatized (and brief) boyhood in an English private school.

Which is ok ... cuz they found a CS Lewis loving academic to review Hitchens' book ...

And so on and so ... unreconstructed Trotskyists reviewing neoCon screeds, Federalist Society lawyers reviewing civil liberties tomes ...

It makes for lively reading -- 'one supposes.'

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Feminist joke!?!?
Posted by: babaloo on Oct 24, 2007 7:46 AM   
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They promoted me and hired two white males to cover my old job! Ha Ha Ha!
Just like the blacks, we have to work twice as hard to be respected!

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Katha, if you're reading this, we still love you
Posted by: janvdb on Oct 24, 2007 8:15 AM   
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So you aired your dirty laundry in public.

Just makes the rest of us look better, for our mistakes, foibles, stumbles and errors.

In a world like ours -- full of others deliberately setting up trapdoors, hidden nooses, Catch-22s, no-win-situations, cul-de-sacs, trick questions, fake come-ons, threats, mixed messages, walls of denial, double identities, internally inconsistent but aggressive propositions, cons and outright, deliberate, elaborate lies -- we all make mistakes.

Let's all get used to it.

Thanks, Katha.

Jan VanDenBerg

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Katha Pollitt is a national treasure
Posted by: gendershaman on Oct 24, 2007 10:24 AM   
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Of course Katha Pollitt is threatening to some men (and to some women). She is whip smart, is a great writer, has a wonderful sense of humor (and the confidence to poke fun at herself), and bravely puts it out there. She is a one-woman stereotypes-of-feminists wrecking crew.
Of course Katha Pollitt is threatening to some men (and to some women). She has transcended so much of the historical limitations placed on women by men. At the same time, she is willing to point out how she is still affected by the limitations and is still in process at fully transcending those limitations. She is strong and brave enough to reveal her imperfections, fears and insecurities, i.e. her humanity.
I appreciate feminism because it told me and other men that they weren’t any longer going to hold my hand (or penis) and do my emotional work for me and thank me for the honor. It was tough at first to depend on myself and eventually find emotional support in the most unlikely place, from males!
Feminist women (including the much-feared Andrea Dworkin) stopped pleasing men, stopped placating men, stopped competing for men, stopped being obedient to men, stopped denying themselves to make men look better, stopped being passive, stopped acting stupid to make men look smarter. I got over women “abandoning me and not taking care of me.” This was a big favor on their part. Growing up male in the Patriarchy led me to feel guilty for things I had done, things I didn’t challenge in other males, and not lifting a finger to challenge the male-defined and male-controlled system that made me and other men dangerous, angry children, never responsible for our acts.
Previous to the analysis of the Patriarchy (the rule of male-superiority) by feminist women, few males had ever critiqued the Patriarchy with its system of gendered inequity in any sort of thorough, systemic manner. Males had never analyzed our life realities living in a system that simultaneously privileges and consumes us. If we can get past our learned hostility to anything female, feminism allows males to finally understand how unquestioning obedience to the system of male superiority harms us as well as females.
The negative effects on females have been well documented by many feminist authors. Males also pay a price for living in this male-controlled system, which is based on the supposed inferiority of females. Our privilege as males is real, undeniable. But most males have glossed over the price we pay for maintaining our denial of the toll it takes on us to deny the full humanity of females. As males and as humans, we are negatively impacted as we collude in upholding the Patriarchy, whether we collude eagerly or grudgingly. “It is a terrible, an inexorable law that one cannot deny the humanity of another without diminishing one’s own: in the face of one’s victim, one sees oneself.” (From Nobody Knows My Name by James Baldwin)
Thanks to the much-maligned feminist movement, boys and men finally have language available to us with which to describe our experiences of the emotional neglect by men (especially fathers) and physical, psychological and sexual abuse mostly perpetrated by males.
Men: June Cleaver is dead. We can continue to stamp our little feet over the fact that it is not the 1950’s anymore. Or we can link arms and go together to the Wizard and get a life. Andrea Dworkin is dead. Let go of your petulant anger at her and other women. We can only grow and thrive, allies to women on a parallel growth track.
Thank you Katha Pollitt for reminding us that none of us is perfect even as we can aspire to be like you, fabulous and human.

Joe Weinberg

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Toni Bentley deserves a place...
Posted by: babs on Oct 24, 2007 10:52 AM   
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... in the failed woman trash heap along with the like-minded and loathsome scarecrow, Camille Paglia.

these neo-women really do have penis envy. I suggest they get one, then shut the hell up.

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"...pulled...between feminism and femininity."
Posted by: Sojourner on Oct 24, 2007 11:32 AM   
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The reviewer's concluding paragraphs are most cogent. To negotiate between the inherent and powerful privileges of femininity and its objectifying consequences guarantees disagreement.

My intro to feminism came with "The Feminine Mystique" in the 60s. The disagreement over male expectations of women continues, but the quality of the talk is available at new, higher levels. The taboo of equal ability has been broken. I don't see us going backwards. Pollitt will be read long after the outrageous journalists fade.

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robigreg
Posted by: robigreg on Oct 24, 2007 12:20 PM   
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But. . . but. . .Ms. Douglas, as I was looking up the NY Times Book Review do on Katha Pollit I came across John Leonard's review of Susan Faludi's book. He concludes his review: "Feminism, like a trampoline, has made possible this splendid provocative of a book, levitating to keep company with Hunter Thompson's fear and loathing, Leslie Fielder's (sic) love and death and Edmund Wilson's patriotic gore." Now how did that slip by the "rarely met a feminist it liked" attitude you attribute to the Review? Well. . . you do say "rarely."

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» RE: robigreg Posted by: Q30
Katha Pollitt is more than a label
Posted by: LeeAnnG on Oct 24, 2007 1:44 PM   
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In fact, Katha Pollitt's column really is the first thing I turn to when the Nation arrives at my house, and I'm always disappointed when it's an issue without her commentaries.

Although I consider myself to be a feminist, I'm also an artist, computer programmer, guitar player, gardener, and a host of other things. So is Katha Pollitt. She deserves more than the narrow box of "feminism."

It's interesting that a man who writes his memoirs is never labeled a "masculinist" or even a "patriarchist" unless the anti-women rhetoric is over the top, in which case he might be called a chauvinist. This is even true of men who don't seem to particularly enjoy the company of women except as sexual partners. A man like this, such as a member of the Rat Pack like Dean Martin, is called a "man's man." This is said approvingly, not as an epithet. As long as a man doesn't want to have sex with other men, he is free to dislike women in general without much, if any, commentary from anyone.

Where is all the outrage against men who think women are silly, empty headed, or "pussies" as opposed to those "with balls"?

Not so long ago, women were not welcome in men's clubs, but the men who created these "havens" were not held up to ridicule as "woman haters" by the mainstream. Many men thought women had no place at the poker table, and this was considered to be not discriminatory but reasonable.

When women express a distaste for being discriminated against, ridiculed, or relegated to second-class citizenship, they often are criticized for being man haters.

There's definitely still a double standard. Katha Pollitt is a talented writer with many facets. I haven't read her book, so perhaps it really is a feminist tract. But if her columns are any indication, it's probably a lot of other things too.

Even here on Alternet, so many men seem threatened by the whole idea of feminism. And, of course, there have been a plethora of inane articles written by women who should know better on subjects like "can a real feminist still want a male partner" and "what if I want to wear makeup - am I still a real feminist" kind of garbage.

My feminist friends often really like men much better than many men seem to like women. They don't want to rule the world, they just want their mates to help with the kids and housework, to include them in their conversations, to respect their opinions, and to treat them with consideration.

I have an acquaintance who went out of his way to marry a very young woman because he saw her as someone he could mold into the image he wanted and as a perfect baby machine to bear his children. Through the course of their marriage, she had three of his children. Though he felt (and acted) as if he should be free to come and go as he pleased, everywhere they went, she wound up taking care of the children while he partied, stayed up all night to play music, and slept late. During this time, he had multiple affairs and finally found someone he "fell in love with" at the same time he got his still-young wife pregnant with their fourth child.

The couple still lives together, and I no longer see them. She is so brainwashed, she believes whatever he says. I assume it's similar to what my ex-husband used to tell me during his affairs: that it's possible to love more than one person at a time and she should accept his relationship with the other woman.

This kind of thing used to be common - my first marriage was similar - and feminist awareness has made it less so. Having said all of this, I still contend that writers like Pollitt should be judged on their writing skills and insights and not their feminism or lack thereof.

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Feminism and the NY Times
Posted by: Urgelt on Oct 24, 2007 8:18 PM   
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I bored into this article expecting the worst. Alternet has a habit of presenting feminist arguments in their worst possible guises: shallow reasoning, sweeping overgeneralizations, haughty disdain for those unwashed in the holy fire of feminist thought.

But... I kind of liked this article. It's funny, in an almost self-deprecating way. Self-deprecating humor isn't something I associate with feminism very often.

The struggle between two radically different visions of what it means to be an American woman are on display here. And surprise, the more sympathetic one is feminist.

Unfortunately, the article makes a merely feeble attempt to support its sweeping conclusion that the NY Times Book Review always portrays feminists in unflattering and even cruel terms. Hasn't the Times also given column space to feminist writers over the years? Like, really, a lot?

Thus the complaint shouldn't be that the NY Times portrays feminists in a negative (and unfair) way all the time, but rather that it expresses many points of view, some of which are loathsome (and unfair) to feminists.

See, this is what bothers me about feminism. It's not good enough that feminist thought gets printed in the NY Times. Only if the NY Times *only* prints feminist thought is it ok. It's all declarative and obligatory and No Exceptions Allowed, or Wrath Shall Descend. And here we are, witnessing the Wrath Descending, this time on an inexcusably stupid review, and the entire institution of the Times gets caught in the back blast.

Criticizing the Times for printing a stupid review- sure, ok. Some editor failed to pay enough attention to what passed through her in-box, for shame.

Criticizing the Times for always and only presenting anti-feminist thought, which is a sweeping overgeneralization supportable only by cherry-picking the historical record - that's overkill.

Got it?

I liked the article, but it would have more resonance with me if it had confined itself to honest ridicule aimed at a stupid review, and spared us the sweeping overgeneralization.

I stand ready to receive my obligatory karate kick in the head.

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Pollitt's no Angel
Posted by: Angela History on Oct 24, 2007 8:38 PM   
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I admire Katha Pollitt's work (almost) as much as the next feminist, and I don't know anything else about reviewer Bentley's work.

But I do know (through a circuitous but, frankly, reliable grapevine) that there are good reasons to wonder about the integrity of KP's feminism in relation to her memoir. For one thing, she and the man she used to call the Last Marxist were involved with other people when they got together, so there's a big piece missing in her anguish about his subsequent infidelity. Doesn't it occur to her that there might be an element of what-goes-around-comes-around at issue here? What of her own betrayals of the man she had been with? What of the pain her affair with the Last Marxist caused his previous partner? Or, to take a less traditional view, has she considered maybe working on developing a healthy polyamory instead of the self-righteous wronged woman routine?

For another thing, Bentley's right to suggest there's something pathetic in Pollitt's public airing of her persistent obsession with this guy and indeed guys in general. Surely feminism is supposed to help us work through that kind of stuff with a little more dignity? And it's painful to read memoirs that reveal lack of self-awareness, rather than the reverse.

Pollitt's a smart woman a lot of the time, but she should stick to one-page essays, or at least stay away from autobiography.

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sandifehr@yahoo.com
Posted by: sandifehr on Oct 27, 2007 4:33 AM   
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Men are just mad because they do not possess common sense, which is what the ladies have in spades and what makes us more intelligent and useful to everyone. Men are single-minded persons and that is fine, they never mature past the age 18, hence the stupid"man tricks" they are always engaging in, the sexy models when they are too old to reach nirvana, etc. Tsk, Tsk, Jealousy is the grave yard of affections, and reason.

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I'm feminist, I like and work with guys (union) not scared of bs
Posted by: melindyrose on Oct 27, 2007 9:44 AM   
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thank you for exposing the corporate media bias against working class americans
its the workers who are affected by this baloney, not the poodle lap dogs who eat bon bons and suck....hard candy
leave americans alone already and allow us to like heavy metal music, pensions, our teenagers, cute guys and peace.
is cindy sheehan bad too?

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