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Bush Has the Nerve to Say He Found Inner Peace on Iraq

By Mark Danner, The New York Review of Books and TomDispatch. Posted October 18, 2007.


A recently published memo reveals the arrogance Bush employs toward diplomacy.

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Introduction note by Tom Dispatch editor Tom Engelhardt.

"I made my arguments and went down in flames. History will prove me right."

Yes, that was George W. Bush. No, he wasn't talking about Iraq. The date was September 1993 and Bush, then managing general partner of the Texas Rangers, had voted against "realignment and a new wild-card system" at a Major League Baseball owners meeting. "Bush," writes Jerry Crasnick of ESPN.com, "was the lone dissenter in a 27-1 vote."

Skip a few years to February 2003, when Bush found himself involved in another owners' meeting involving "realignment" -- in this case, of the Middle East -- and what was certainly an attempt to install a new "wild-card system." Again, he cast his lone vote. At stake was the fate of the planet and, unlike in 1993, it didn't matter, in the end, how the other owners, then gathering at the United Nations, voted.

The catastrophic results of this realignment effort, we now know well; that Bush again believes history will prove him "right," we also know. Whatever documentation may exist for that 1993 baseball meeting, recently we received a striking document from February 22, 2003 -- a transcript, published in the Spanish newspaper El País, of a conversation at the President's "ranch" in Crawford, Texas, between Bush and Spanish Prime Minister José María Aznar. This was less than a month before the President launched his invasion of Iraq. As recorded, his was a remarkable performance, a window into the Presidential mind -- and, as with the famed Downing Street Memo when no one else in the mainstream was willing to publish it, the New York Review of Books is publishing this transcript, newly translated, in its upcoming issue. (It can now be read at the Review's website.)

The invaluable Mark Danner, who has covered the Iraq War and the Bush administration for the New York Review of Books, has written an illuminating piece on what we can now see of a President, at the edge of an invasion, and eerily "at peace with himself." More than four-and-a-half years and the same President later, it remains a chilling vision of the man the Supreme Court put in charge of what his followers once loved to hail as the planet's "lone superpower," its New Rome. Thanks to the kindness of the editors of the Review, it is posted below. Tom

"The Moment Has Come to Get Rid of Saddam" Bush's Faith Run Over by History
By Mark Danner

[This essay appears in the November 8, 2007 issue of the New York Review of Books and is posted here with the kind permission of the editors of that magazine.]

The only thing that worries me about you is your optimism.
-- Spanish Prime Minister José María Aznar to President Bush, from the Crawford Transcript of February 22, 2003

Surely one of the agonizing attributes of our post-September 11 age is the unending need to reaffirm realities that have been proved, and proved again, but just as doggedly denied by those in power, forcing us to live trapped between two narratives of present history, the one gaining life and color and vigor as more facts become known, the other growing ever paler, brittler, more desiccated, barely sustained by the life support of official power.

At the center of our national life stands the master narrative of this bifurcated politics: the Iraq war, fought to eliminate the threat of weapons of mass destruction that turned out not to exist, brought to a quick and glorious conclusion on a sunlit aircraft carrier deck whose victory celebration almost instantly became a national embarrassment. That was four and a half years ago; the war's ending and indeed its beginning, so clearly defined for that single trembling instant, have long since vanished into contested history.

The latest entry in that history appeared on September 26, when the Spanish daily El País published a transcript of a discussion held on February 22, 2003 -- nearly a month before the war began -- between President Bush and José María Aznar, then prime minister of Spain. Though the leaders met at Mr. Bush's ranch in Crawford, Texas, some quickly dubbed the transcript Downing Street Memo II, and indeed the document does share some themes with that critical British memorandum, mostly in its clear demonstration of the gap between what President Bush and members of his administration were saying publicly during the run-up to the war and what they were saying, and doing, in more private settings. Though Hans Blix, the UN chief inspector whose teams were then scouring Iraq for the elusive weapons, had yet to deliver his report -- two weeks later he would tell the Security Council that it would take not "years, nor weeks, but months" to complete "the key remaining disarmament tasks" -- the President is impatient, even anxious, for war. "This is like Chinese water torture," he says of the inspections. "We have to put an end to it."


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Mark Danner is a New Yorker staff writer and a professor of journalism at UC Berkeley. His most recent book is "Torture and Truth: America, Abu Ghraib, and the War on Terror."

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The Master Catapulter of Propaganda
Posted by: vox persona on Oct 18, 2007 12:37 AM   
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From the Downing St Memo to the Spanish Memos (DowningII), we are shown again and again how cavalierly our dear supreme leader tosses life around. There are actually people out there who still think/say that Bush never lied. If you ever encounter such a delusional conversation, all you need to do is ask if that person believes this war was engaged as a 'last resort', as W promised repeatedly to sell his war like so much detergent. That was the mac daddy of all lies. This war was: 1) a revenge match (Saddam tried to kill his daddy), b) an obvious oil grab to be divvied up to big oil cronies, III) a`way to create a scared populace that traditionally supports a "war president", four) to create a shock economy designed to transfer wealth from our treasury to the "Blackwater enonomy" (Naomi Klein's term), including all manner of profiteering industries. War is big business, you know, which means obscene profits paid for by taxpayers' kids and grandkids. God forbid we have to sacrifice anything while our finest are maimed and killed on a daily basis. Collateral damage happens, and there is nothing 'casual' about casualties. I think Bush honestly believed Iraq would be to him what Panama was to Daddy. He'd go in, pull out the bad guy....no prob. Now he wants to base his blunder of biblical proportions on the 'Korean model', so look for a 50 year occupation if he gets his way. Am I dreaming this? If so, PLEASE WAKE ME UP NOW!!!! Where's that red pill?!? This can't really be happening!! Bush tells us that we'll understand in 40 years and history will vindicate him (more like pillory him). How convenient, it's more likely he's trying to self-fulfill his own end time fundie dogma. This is past theatre of the absurd. He's setting himself up to be 'Mussolini'ed'. We're being raped and told that we're on our honeymoon. There's not enough lipstick in the world for this pig....

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» www.votenic.com Posted by: votenic
a deluded President
Posted by: Constitutionalist75 on Oct 18, 2007 12:59 AM   
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Apparently, Bush has been told by his religious advisor(s) that he is God's insrtument of Biblical Armageddon. So, he is at peace with himself on the strength of that reassurance. Thus, whatever foreign policy he and Cheney decide upon is God's foriegn policy, even if it leads to World War Three, no problem, God will take care of his own true believers in all circumstances, even if the rest of humanity is killed off and life on Earth is obliterated, never mind, it's God's will?

So, is the President a madman? Well, he certainly is a religious fanatic with the power to destroy the Earth, which according to the Bible is God's creation, so perhaps he is secretly inspired from the other direction?!

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Who Would Jesus Bomb?
Posted by: Tom Degan on Oct 18, 2007 2:47 AM   
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A really stupid, even blasphemous question, I know, but there a lot of people out there on the right who have what they believe to be a rational answer. George W. Bush, unfortunlately, is one of them.

Do these pepole even get the message of Christ? Have one of them ever even heard of the Sermon on the mount? What part of, "Blessed are the peacemakers for they shall be called Song of God" don't they get? At His dying breath, Jesus implored God to have mercy on His executioners:

"Forgive them Father, for they Know not what they do."

How does the First Fool rationalize the fact that he presided over more executions than any other governor in American history? How does ANY of his behavior, during his entire life, square with the compassion of the Prince of Peace - who he claims to be a follower of?

I don't get it. Am I missing something here?

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
"The Rant" by Tom Degan

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NOTE TO DON HAZEN:
Posted by: Tom Degan on Oct 18, 2007 2:53 AM   
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Dear Don,
Sorry to use this forum for a personal note but I had no other means of communicating with you. I would like top make a little donation to AlterNet but, at the moment, I have not the means of making a financial transaction on line. Is there an address where I could mail a check via regular mail?
All the best,
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» www.votenic.com Posted by: votenic
Punchinello
Posted by: hquain on Oct 18, 2007 3:01 AM   
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Bush's psychopathology has made him an excellent face for stronger, more focused minds. (Rove's real claim to brilliance is that he saw this early.) Though extreme, and coupled to obvious cognitive deficits, it's not unlike what you see in other public figures, even those with very different skills -- think Tony Blair, brilliant, articulate, and increasingly unable to find any contact with the reality of his actions.

Is this, then, the way that democracy is inevitably solved?

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George W Bush is like Rosemary West who will never be able to express remorse
Posted by: Suzon on Oct 18, 2007 3:28 AM   
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for her crimes because in order to express remorse, you have to realize what you've done. Normal people find it hard enough to acknowledge relatively minor damage (not being nice to a family member) so it stands to reason that those guilty of horrendous deeds would find it impossible to even begin to review the consequences of their actions.

If the White House lawn was covered with the thousands of severed limbs of our troops and innocent Iraqis and Bush would only smirk his terrible smirk of denial.

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Maxwell's Silver Hammer
Posted by: shangrilalad on Oct 18, 2007 3:41 AM   
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.
No conscience, the serene certainty of a sociopath.


Lyrics: The Beatles - Maxwell's Silver Hammer lyrics
Album: Abbey Road

Joan was quizzical, studied metaphysical
Science in the home
Late nights all alone with a test-tube
Ohh-oh-oh-oh...
Maxwell Edison majoring in medicine
Calls her on the phone
"Can I take you out to the pictures
Joa-oa-oa-oan?"
But as she's getting ready to go
A knock comes on the door...

Bang, bang, Maxwell's silver hammer
Came down upon her head
Bang, bang, Maxwell's silver hammer
Made sure that she was dead

Back in school again Maxwell plays the fool again
Teacher gets annoyed
Wishing to avoid an unpleasant sce-e-e-ene
She tells Max to stay when the class has gone away
So he waits behind
Writing 50 times "I must not be so-o-o-oo..."
But when she turns her back on the boy
He creeps up from behind

Bang, bang, Maxwell's silver hammer
Came down upon her head
Bang, bang, Maxwell's silver hammer
Made sure that she was dead

B.C. Thirty-One said "we caught a dirty one"
Maxwell stands alone
Painting testimonial pictures ohh-oh-oh-oh
Rose and Valerie screaming from the gallery
Say he must go free (Maxwell must go free)
The judge does not agree and he tells them so-o-o-oo
But as the words are leaving his lips
A noise comes from behind

Bang, bang, Maxwell's silver hammer
Came down upon his head
Bang, Bang, Maxwell's silver hammer
Made sure that he was dead

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» RE: Maxwell's Silver Hammer Posted by: Tom Degan
Unquestionably Psychotic
Posted by: AlexLawyer on Oct 18, 2007 3:53 AM   
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Bush is much worse than imbecilic, out of touch and clueless; he is psychotic in his paranoid delusions of grandiosity, divine inspiration and victimization. His vendettas against his enemies are rooted in deranged thought. For the safety of the world, Congress needs to impeach Bush, Cheney and Rice immediately, and they have far more grounds for doing so than the constitution requires or the framers intended.

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» RE: Unquestionably Psychotic Posted by: YogiBear
The man...
Posted by: ShrubtheWarcriminal on Oct 18, 2007 4:00 AM   
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...has all the classic signs of a sociopath, and knows he has no accountability, and the Democraps are the enablers. An unaccountable sociopath can do a lot of damage, as we have seen. He can easily fool himself into believing he is always right.

The only solution is impeachment or a war crimes trial to give him the "evidence" he needs to reconsider his inane policies and actions.

Will it happen? Not with the microscopic stones of the Democraps.

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» RE: The man... Posted by: photon's feather
If Bush were a foreign leader
Posted by: robchapman on Oct 18, 2007 4:27 AM   
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If you are still talking to any Republicans, ask them to think about how they would respond to a foreing leader who
*assumed power after the majority of voters endorsed another candidate;

* plotted with foreign allies to overthrow another government;

* directed a series of ultimatums designed to overthrow them, against that government;

* after that government had complied with most of the ultimatums, then demanded their resignation and evacuation of their country in 72 hours;

* invaded the country when its leadership refused to evacuate;

* destroyed the country's armed forces, major political institutions, police forces, infrastructure, educational, economic and cultural institutions;

* imposed an entirely foreign and incompatible set of economic and banking rules on the new country;

* imposed a government made up of emigres who had lived abroad since childhood and had been assimilated into the host countries;

* refused to commit forces and resources to effectively secure and occupy the country after the invasion and destruction of their government;

* created incidents that roiled sectarian divisions within the country and threatened the neighboring nations;

* interfered with national elections and held elections in which the candidates' names were withheld from the voters;

* directed the drafting of the post occupation constitution;

* supported numerous paid hit men within the invaded country to protect foreigners and granted these hit men immunity from prosecution

These are the offenses that the Coalition have perpetrated against the Iraqis.

That they are technically legal based on a UN Securtiy Council Resolution has basically destroyed the credibility of the UN as aa venue for international conflict resolution.

The Bush legacy of deceit and murder in Iraq, therefore has far reaching consequences in International Relations: the post World War II ideals of international cooperation and conflict resolution are dead.

With them we must inter the good American GI, the soldier who liberated countries, defeated evil enemies and gave children gum is a sixty year old stereotype who exists only in memory.

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» RE: If Bush were a foreign leader Posted by: worldwide65
ehsan saeed
Posted by: ehsan on Oct 18, 2007 4:49 AM   
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MR BUSH IS A SICK MAN.LOOK AT THE GREAT ACHIEVEMENTS OF HIS PRESIDENCY.9/11, AFGHANISTAN, IRAQ,PRICE OF OIL AND GAS,STATUS OF US DOLLAR,STATE OF COUNTRY'S ECONOMY,HOW WELL PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD TREAT THE AMECICANS,STATUS OF HUMAN RIGHTS AND DEMOCRACY IN THE UNITED STATES ETC. NOTHING REALY TO WRITE HOME ABOUT. WE FEEL SORRY FOR THE AMERICANS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN SADDLED WITH A CHIEF EXECUTIVE,WHO TAKES DECISIONS FOR THEM THAT LAND THEM IN ONE TROUBLE AFTER ANOTHER.SAD.AND NOW HE THINKS HE HAS DONE WELL AND WOULD LIKE TO DO MORE OF THE SAME DURING HE REMAINING PERIOD OF HIS TENURE.GOD HELP THE AMERICANS.

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» RE: GOD HELP THE AMERICANS Posted by: aka_bozo
World War III (just kidding)
Posted by: Urstrly on Oct 18, 2007 6:03 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Make sure you check out Bob Cesna's Thursday piece on Huffington Post about the grin on Bush's face as he discussed the possibility of World War III. (photo included) He is dangerous and has been since he was a boy shooting and blowing up frogs for sport. Any psychiatrist will tell you this signals a major character disorder. Will the Democrats ever understand that it's not about winning the 2008 election but impeaching these madmen before we're all toast?

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» RE: World War III (just kidding) Posted by: AMERICAN VETERAN
Don't underestimate Bush
Posted by: peacelf on Oct 18, 2007 6:17 AM   
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Bush's sense of purpose, divine or otherwise, should not be underestimated. He is a man with a mission, and all the progressive analysis seems to ignore the plain and simple fact that Bush sees the world differently than us.

A scene in Fahrenheit 911 captures the essence of Bush's cultural perspective. Bush is giving a speech at a fundraiser with the "haves and have mores" : "...Some people call you the elite. I call you my base." George W. is from a wealthy family of white-bred elitests whose ancestral roots go back to the Bristish Empire. People like Bush believe their plan for "democracy" in Iraq and the world is an opportunity to expand the empire by "opening up new markets." This is the undercurrent of Bush's "mission accomplished."

War and democracy have little to do with the democracy and freedoms we progressives think of when those words pass our lips. To Bush & co. democracy means free markets and world trade. And, removing Saddam, then replacing him with a "friendly" government means american businesses and particularly the oil companies have "free" access to the second largest oil reserves in the world. In other words, according to fundamentalist free market ideology, freedom means the right to "trade" in any country Bush and his business cronies want to trade in.

What we (progressives) see as using war, death and destruction to exploit cheap resources, Bush sees as opening up markets. History, in Bush's mind, will acquit him because of the bustling economy for which Bush will have been responsible. Corporations will make huge profits, create good paying jobs, and more cheap products will flood the U.S. market!

It's all a glorious picture, if you could just see what George W. sees. Of course, there'll still be unemployment, underemployment, millions without health care, and endless wars, but that's a small price to pay for freedom, isn't it?

That's Bush's brain in a nutshell (no pun intended). To understand him, you must get inside the brain of the rich, white male mind and culture and empathize with his quest for maintaining the current power structure. Once you accomplish that, everything Bush says will make perfect sense.

peace

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Sadly, this isn't surprising
Posted by: Knowmad on Oct 18, 2007 6:39 AM   
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Two quick points about this sad little man, cheney and his other corporate bosses, and their deluded, fawning cronies:

Are these people sick enough, or stupid enough, not to realize that bush is now very near the level of the most despised rulers in history? I mean this literally; name anyone (yes, including Hitler and Stalin, and Saddam) who's ultimate orders and decisions have done more damage and caused more misery than this fool. DON'T FORGET to factor in the already blighted future for millions upon millions of victims of this shortsighted, criminal arrogance, and the certain dismal lives for all those yet to be impacted.

I called them stupid above, here's why: At this point, every time the cheney/bush criminal cabal does something wrong, or wrongly, it not only accelerates the slide of American respect in the world - causing huge economic, security and even martial problems at home - but also does massive damage to the relatively sane outlook of their supposed party, true GOP conservatives.

How does alienating yourself to the rest of the world, bringing your homeland down in flames and ignoring your supposed supporters achieve anything but increasing hatred of you and everything you stand for? Maybe they really do believe in the 'fundyright' version of sanity, and are using their neocon defence-contractor lackies to foist their armageddon on the rest of us. If so, they're either even more stupid and unaware than I thought - as if the rest of the planet (read Europe, England, China, India, Russia, Malaysia...) wouldn't do anything to stop them - or crazy-criminally insane. Unfortunately, they seem to exhibit aspects of both, which bodes dire ill for every one of us.

Sane Americans and everyone else must do whatever they can to cure this malignancy, which is no less than an incredible affront to common human decency.

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"This is the policy. What happened?"
Posted by: dustdevil on Oct 18, 2007 6:49 AM   
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This article is somewhat misleading because it gives the impression that Bush was making the decision to go to war.
The secret cabal he fronts must have suffered immensely for these 6 years, wincing every time he opens his mouth.
But they have succeeded in what they planned. They have increased their fortunes astronomically with war profits and are well on the way to turning the US into a Fascist regime.

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Face it, Bush/Cheney will be in power for many,many years
Posted by: pammers on Oct 18, 2007 7:14 AM   
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The elections in 2008 will never be held. The evil dictator will never give up his thrown. All civil liberties will be denied. We will all be in Guantanamo. We will attack Iran. We will be an occupier of Iraq for decades.

That's what I have read from so many here so it must all be true.

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Yankees yankees yankees
Posted by: frantaylor on Oct 18, 2007 7:23 AM   
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If GWB had gotten his way, it would have been all Yankees, all the time, representing the American League in the World Series. Not even George Steinbrenner wanted that.

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MORE EXPLAINING GEORGE BUSH
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Oct 18, 2007 7:36 AM   
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Now he's at peace. Good! God and or religion have nothing to do with his behavior. He's not at peace, he doesnt' know there's anything wrong. The religion argument either gets people on or off the hook. Take it out of the argument and we have a man in charge who no one challenges. So we give him the "God Pass". Sorry, I don't buy it. Nobody takes him on, that's the problem. With Cheney as his coach, no one will. With or without God. Thanks, ANNA

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Psychological aberration doesn't need explanation; it needs treatment.
Posted by: monkeywrench on Oct 18, 2007 9:04 AM   
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From the article:

"What is most interesting in this passage, and indeed in the entire transcript, is what it reveals about Bush's attitudes and character. One moment he blusters and threatens, the next he speaks reverently and self-righteously about how he is guided by 'a historic sense of responsibility':"

What is interesting in Bush's attitudes and character (if "interesting" can be used in the prejoritive sense, as in the Chinese curse, "May you live in interesting times."), is how closely they resemble those of a sociopath.

Further explanations of Bush's motives will be futile, and appeals to Bush's being reasonable or intelligent in his decisions will be even more futile. You cannot argue with a madman.

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9/11 - WMD - AFGHANISTAN - IRAQ - PATRIOT ACT - - -
Posted by: edgar_michel on Oct 18, 2007 9:16 AM   
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For those who still do not understand that 9/11 was part of the strategic plan to secure Middle East and Eurasia energy hegemony, then they need to continue reading. It didn't come off as planned, but the planners have been successful in foisted upon them selves and the American public a secure state of selective amnesia.

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Bush, Hitler
Posted by: Ignatz deFyre on Oct 18, 2007 9:26 AM   
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Anyone who's studied Hitler will see parallels in the delusional thinking of these two individuals. Hitler's was a megalomaniacal determination alloyed with charisma and a keen sense of opponents' weaknesses. Bush's convictions are similarly misguided and firm but in obstinate and obtuse ways. Unlike Hitler , who was self-directed, Bush is an ideal puppet for the handlers in the shadows.

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Oy, Alternet
Posted by: hellofriends on Oct 18, 2007 9:44 AM   
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First off: Bush was quoted as saying that he was at peace with his decision to go to war in 2003. This article's title and its conclusion imply strongly a present-tensed mindset that he is at peace now. actually "we are told" this, meaning, i guess, the other. but by whom are we/he told of this? Bush has publicly stated that while he believes he is doing the right thing in Iraq, yet he has also stated that he is deeply troubled by what is going on there? Obviously he's a politician so he's full of shit, but how can you be so mindless as to assume that all of the problems with our administration boil down to the black-and-white notion that our leaders are simply "evil?" Don't you see that this is the same exact bi-polarity progressives are criticizing the GOP for doing to the world?

Furthermore, what world leader has ever has admitted that they are doing something horribly wrong and unnecessary and that it is causing them a great crisis of conscience? Bush's psychological performance as a world leader does not appear unusual in any way (steadfast and convincingly convicted.) It is the immense outreach of his power coupled with his failed policies regarding the environment, health care, poverty, education, and peace through war that are so dangerous.

Secondly, this soulless/positivist idea that "faith" is simply a comfortably slumbering leech that rises to fill the void where knowledge and courage are lacking is getting pretty old on this website and elsewhere. It is a generally myopic and unhelpful lens to view the infinitely complex phenomenons of "faith" and "reason" (and their supposed differences) that no one has been able to articulate thus far in all of human history. While providing a comforting and easy-to-understand-and-become-outraged-at caricature of this seemingly alien man in the white house, it is disingenuous and misleading to reduce the complicated, somewhat brilliant, and elitist machinations of our government’s schemes for Iraq down to the pure, stupid fideism of our president. Clearly we're aware that another major tidal force has dragged us into this mess, namely that of the implementation of neoconservative ideology. This intricate, utopian, grandiose, idealist, revolutionary philosophy with Trotskyite origins, is based partially on the idea that the world really would be a better and safer place if every nation were a democracy (ideally a mirror image of america,) and that it is possible to export democracy with massive military force. misguided, lethal, and burning down and flames, this whole plan for iraq was perhaps ENABLED by Bush's lack of historical knowledge and foreign policy, but it was not founded upon it. The voice of Cheney is more to blame than the voice of God, and a huge bulk of the credit must be duly apportioned to the calculated, rational objectives of the neocons. honestly i doubt cheney REALLY gives a flying fuck about jesus christ. maybe i'm wrong. bush certainly appears to be more a frontman who yields to the plans of the smarter (and more outrageously rational) people around him, and then Bush embalms the mission in angelic religiosity to make it palatable to the public.

this article strayed from Bush's brain and wandered off into Universal concepts, which invokes again the issue of what is and what is not "faith." the illusion of objectivity points to the personally empirical notion that our emotions cannot be separated from our "logical" thinking. it is the scientist's Belief that her hypothesis is correct that drives her to test it out as empirically as possible. the same could be said about politicians and anyone else that has ever had an idea in their lives. so, just as faith can be used to justify anything, so can reason. As the old Benjamin Franklin said: "So convenient a thing it is to be a Reasonable creature, since it enables one to find or make a reason for everything one has a mind to do."

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Bush's history
Posted by: mountainmama on Oct 18, 2007 12:02 PM   
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I have recently read BUSH ON THE COUCH" by Justin A. Frank, M.D., a psychiatrist and clinical professor in the Dept. of Psychiatry at George Washington University Medical Center among other things. It is an account of what could possibly be, and IMHO is accurate, of how and why Bush got to be the way he is and, what's more scary, all that the monster he is can be capable of doing yet. It explains so much that you can't help but feel Dr. Frank's "analysis," based on what he knows, is very accurate.

My question is....why has no one yet put an end to Bush's history in the White House? The majority of people in this country are still sleepwalking!!!

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This cat's Inner Peace is waaaay too LOUD ! n/t
Posted by: BenCaxton12 on Oct 18, 2007 12:42 PM   
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Bush's Mantra for Inner Peace
Posted by: tenzing on Oct 18, 2007 1:54 PM   
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Doh!

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Ah, that W...
Posted by: Suz on Oct 18, 2007 4:48 PM   
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...armed with communication skills as sophisticated as a "Porky's" movie.

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A serene boosh
Posted by: willymack on Oct 18, 2007 6:15 PM   
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Wonder why bush is so calm in the face of a 24% approval, and everything he's put his hand on turning to dust? He's CRAZY,whatthehellyuothink? Jack Daniels probably helps as well.

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Hate to change the subject
Posted by: donl51 on Oct 18, 2007 6:54 PM   
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But we're in big need of a revolution in this country,if we the people don't do something soon we'll loose everything, and I mean everything,!! we've the closest thing to a dictator leading us to circle the drain, I'm a patriot ,he's not! He kills your children then lies, and we do nothing, why? because we're a trusting people and they'' sure as hell do take advantage of this.,look at our justice system,its a shambles its corrupt and its wrong,we've become more and more the police state,more and more people getting arrested for less .Sorry to say ,that at the UN. after Bush left the pulpit and Chavez stepped up only to remark the devil stood here the smell o f sulfur is still evident! Now I like Chavez but a lot of people in this country don't and many don't really know why. WE need to do something soon ! our elected officials are affraid of something, they do scant little! think about it ,maybe we'll join and act.

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The "War on Terror" is a brilliant
Posted by: drfun on Oct 18, 2007 7:33 PM   
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success, your just looking at it in the wrong perspective.
The idea was to have a way to drain the treasury, at the same time to enrich the weapons industrial complex.
So, when the dollar becomes worthless, and the Amero is introduced (within 2 years). Where Canada, the U.S. and Mexico become a union to compete with the Euro and its participating countries.
This will be the downfall of the middle class in Canada and the U.S. while Mexico's standard of living will increase. We'll all be working for half of what we are paid today.
Isn't globalization and Free Trade a glorious thing!

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THE BORDER DISPUTE BETWEEN
Posted by: Raymond Emerson on Oct 18, 2007 9:29 PM   
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Canada and Mexico is going to be really serious.

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can we get W on a citizen's arrest?
Posted by: nor cal surfer on Oct 19, 2007 5:06 AM   
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someone out there must know this answer. coordinate w/Secret Service? strange times call for strange questions.

i'd love to see a jury of his peers listen to the case against him. of course, arresting someone as a citizen opens yourself up for 'false arrest' and all kinds of other legal ramifications.

perhaps there's a good lawer on this page w/more info. my family of lawyers just look at me like i'm crazy to think W could be arrested by a citizen.

according to my logic, though, he's still a US citizen.

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Here's a list of more people who have found peace
Posted by: PakiBoy on Oct 19, 2007 6:20 AM   
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1. Majority of white male amerikan voters (62%) who reelected Bush in 2004.

2. President Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, and Amerikan voters who killed 3-4 million peasants in Vietnam, Cambodia, and Laos, and used chemical weapons which to this day is killing and deforming children.

3. Reagan and Bush I, and their Amerikan supporters who sponsored death squads in South America, and sponsored dictators like General Zia and international 'Jihad' to defeat the Soviets.

4. All US administrations for the past 60-70 years and their Amerikan supporters who have provided protection for Saudi monarchy, and helped it spread the virulent Wahabi death cult.

I could go on but it is of no use. Blaming Bush for all the evils won't get you guys anywhere.

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"ranch"?
Posted by: gfatjax on Oct 19, 2007 8:04 AM   
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Are you saying that jr's plot of useless dirt isn't really a ranch? Are you saying that it was just a political stunt that he bought that dirt just before deciding to run for president? Next you'll be saying he doesn't ride horses or that he'd used a chain saw a bunch of times before TV news crews showed up.

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He finds inner peace every night........
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