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Breaking the Taboo: Why We Took On the Israel Lobby

By Eric Chinski, Farrar, Straus and Giroux. Posted October 16, 2007.


John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen M. Walt explain in this interview why they decided to speak out against the close relationship between the U.S. and Israel.

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Eric Chinski, the editor of John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen M. Walt’s provocative new bestseller, asks the authors whether their book is good for the Jews and good for America. This interview originally appeared on the Web site of the publishing house Farrar, Straus and Giroux. Thanks to TruthDig for resurfacing it.

Why did your article "The Israel Lobby," which was published in the London Review of Books in 2006, provoke such heated discussion around the world? James Traub wrote in The New York Times Magazine: " 'The Israel Lobby' slammed into the opinion-making world with a Category 5 force." How would you describe the reaction?

The article received enormous attention because it challenged what had become a taboo issue in mainstream foreign policy circles, namely the impact of the Israel lobby on U.S. Middle East policy. We did not question Israel's legitimacy and explicitly stated that the United States should come to Israel's aid if its survival is at risk, but we did argue that pro-Israel groups in the United States were encouraging policies that were ultimately not in America's national interest. Although the views we expressed are often discussed openly in other democracies -- including Israel itself -- they have rarely been set forth in detail by mainstream figures in the United States. The article was also of great interest to many readers because it has become increasingly obvious that U.S. Middle East policy has gone badly awry. Although a number of groups and individuals either mischaracterized our views or attacked us personally, many other readers agreed that such an examination of the lobby's role was long overdue.

Why did you feel the need to follow up the article with your book "The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy"? What more is there to say?

Writing a book provided an opportunity to present a more nuanced and complete statement of our views, and also allowed us to address some of the responses to the original article. Although the article was long by magazine standards, space limitations forced us to omit several key issues and to deal with other topics more briefly than we would have liked. Events like the 2006 Lebanon war had not occurred when the article was published, and additional information about other episodes -- such as the U.S. decision to invade Iraq -- had since come to light. Thus, writing a book allowed us to refine our analysis and bring it up to date. 

In particular, the book presents a more detailed definition of the lobby, an extended discussion of its development and rightward drift over time, an examination of the role of the so-called Christian Zionists, and an analysis of the controversial issue of "dual loyalty." We also offer a more detailed description of the various strategies that groups in the lobby use to advance their goals within the U.S. political system. The book also addresses the widespread belief -- as illustrated by Michael Moore's documentary "Fahrenheit 9/11" -- that oil companies are the real driving force behind America's Middle East policy, and explains why this view is incorrect.

Finally, our original article did not offer much in the way of positive prescriptions, but the book outlines a new approach to U.S. Middle East policy that would better serve U.S. interests and, in our view, be better for Israel as well. To that end, it also identifies how the influence of the lobby might become more constructive, for the good of both countries.

What is the extent of American financial, diplomatic, and military aid to Israel, and how does it compare with other states'?

Israel is the largest recipient of U.S. economic and military assistance, having received more than $154 billion in U.S. aid since its creation in 1948, and it currently receives roughly $3 billion in direct U.S. assistance every year, even though it is now a prosperous country. The United States also consistently gives Israel diplomatic support, and consistently comes to its aid in wartime, as it did during the 2006 war in Lebanon. Most important, U.S. support for Israel is largely unconditional: Israel receives generous American assistance even when it takes actions that the U.S. government believes are wrong, such as building settlements in the Occupied Territories. As former Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin once remarked, U.S. backing for Israel is "beyond compare in modern history."

Isn't America's special relationship with Israel based on strong strategic and moral arguments? Isn't it important for the United States to have an ally that shares our values in a region dominated by extremism and enemies of America?

Israel is not the strategic asset to the United States that many claim. Israel may have been a strategic asset during the Cold War, but it has become a growing liability now that the Cold War is over. Unconditional support for Israel has reinforced anti-Americanism around the world, helped fuel America's terrorism problem, and strained relations with other key allies in Europe, the Middle East, and Asia. The United States derives some tangible strategic benefits from its close security partnership with Israel, but it pays a high price for them. On balance, it is more of a liability than an asset.


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Moral reasons? Puh-leeeze!!
Posted by: LMNOP on Oct 16, 2007 2:11 AM   
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"Isn't America's special relationship with Israel based on strong strategic and moral arguments?"

Haven't we gotten past that canard yet? America and moral reasons? Not under Republican presidents. If there wasn't some other compelling motivation, Reagan would have begun the disentanglement and it would have been completed by Bush fils, if not before.

I don't buy the argument that US relations with Israel aren't at least in part about oil. That's something Americans can get excited about, not moral issues.

Fear of the Soviets may have been a factor once, but it doesn't explain the US's present infatuation with Israel.

Personally, I believe that Christian prophecy informs a large amount of the peculiar interest of the US for that one tiny, remote country. The Bible is said to predict the destruction of Israel at the end of the world. But what's that? There's been no Israel since ancient times? Let's prove Biblical prophecy's validity by manufacturing it! And they've been preserving it ever since against the Arab threat of extinguishing it just so Jesus will come back and do the job himself. Nice.

You don't suppose that that is what they mean by moral reasons? Personally, I don't equate Christian prophecy with morality.

» RE: Moral reasons? Try this. Posted by: Urstrly
» RE: Moral reasons? Puh-leeeze!! Posted by: Joshua Holland
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TABOO at the Denial State
Posted by: stryder on Oct 16, 2007 2:11 AM   
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“The United States has three strategic interests in the Middle East: maintaining the flow of Persian Gulf oil to world markets, discouraging the spread of WMD, and reducing anti-American terrorism from this region.”

Uhm, NO… the actual 3 “strategic interests” at play for de facto Fascists that control the U.S. government in the Mid East and Eurasia go something like this:

1] Power grabs thru illegal and bogus “war on terror” conquest such as Iraq War for maintaining control of Big Oil in worthless U.S. fiat petrodollars that benefit freeloading western cartel bankers, monopoly Big Oil and associated enablers.

2] Producing false terror thru “Al Qaeda”, etc, funded by CIA and Saudi money as run through the ISI, MI6, double blind “terrorists” etc, thereby controlling all sides of phony “war on terror”. An ersatz though bloody war designed to demolish and destabilize the Mid East / Eurasia producing genocide and endless conflict at public cost. (a giant divide and conquer sham)

3] Control WMD and restrict its use to “allies” (ISRAEL, Pakistan, etc) and withhold WMD to those countries western Fascist elites wish to plunder and rape for Big Oil, water, etc. Again – all at public cost in blood and treasure for very private profit.

“The United States does not need to control the Middle East itself; it merely needs to prevent any hostile power(s) from controlling the region… as it did when it liberated Kuwait in 1991.”

This is bunk without connection to reality on the ground now or ever. The U.S. government via HW Bush officially suckered Saddam - that the CIA groomed to power to begin with - to take Kuwait and betrayed him for the 1st Gulf War. So, more Big Oil gangster Fascism (not “capitalism” by any sense of the word).

“The United States should deal with it [Israel] as it does with other democracies: backing Israel when its policies are consistent with U.S. interests, but opposing it when they are not.”

Sounds so reasonable, yes?

But there is no such thing as greater “U.S. interests” in foreign geo-strategic relations. The U.S. is not a democracy. But in fact, the U.S. has trashed going on 2 dozen democracies around the world since WW2 via CIA coup. The U.S. is a doormat for Fascists that virtually own and control it for private bloody agenda. That’s an agenda that has zero to do with what people on the ground in America or the Mid East want (despite the corporate media propaganda). Israel and its people are just another pawn on the chessboard.

Btw, I’d love to be dead wrong about all this. But I rather doubt it. This kind of 3-card monty isn’t exactly unique.

Have a look.

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Shortsighted lobbies
Posted by: Democritus on Oct 16, 2007 5:44 AM   
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AIPAC and the other Israeli lobbying groups are not doing Israel any favors by encouraging U.S. support for its expansionist policies in the West Bank and its harsh treatment of Palestinians. Demographics are on the side of the Arab states. Israel would do best to make peace with its neighbors, or else it will soon find itself surrounded by hostile countries that enjoy a decided population advantage. AIPAC's lobbying efforts will do little to help Israel then.

» RE: Shortsighted lobbies Posted by: tommy_slothrop
Lobbying for a Foreign Country?
Posted by: peacelf on Oct 16, 2007 5:49 AM   
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I'm well aware of the pro-Israel lobby and it's influence over U.S. foriegn policy and funding Israel's already healthy economy. Indeed, lobbying in general exercises enormous influence and power over Congress. But, am I the only one who believes lobbying for another economically sound nation is, well, against our national interests, notwithstanding the problems Israel causes in the Middle East?

For one, foreign aid should be dependent on need, like the many starving African peoples who need aid, or New Orleans, which would do well if it was given three $billion a year to rebuild.

I'm not convinced that aid to Israel is simply a result of the pro-Israel lobby. There has to be other reasons for which we americans aren't privy. But, if I was to guess, it would be a strategic buffer zone between the Mediterranean Sea and the Middle East. The same goes for Egypt, Turkey, Algeria, Morocco and now Libya, all U.S. allies.

Israel's location at the eastern end of the Med between the Middle East and the sea makes them an important allie, given their status as a nuclear armed nation. And, as long as Middle East oil remains an economic issue for the U.S., so will support of Israel.

Peace

» This is beside the point! Posted by: pierrot
Hope
Posted by: diarmaid on Oct 16, 2007 6:45 AM   
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Instead of trying to weaken or counter the lobby, one may hope that moderate pro-Israel organizations will become more influential, and that the leading organizations realize that the hard-line positions they have espoused in the past have been counterproductive. If these groups can bring their impressive influence to bear in more constructive ways, U.S. policy will be more in line with its national interests, and better for Israel too.

So it is up to the Lobby. No surprise.

You can't object the lobby or criticize Israel when you aim high as otherwise they'll not let you get what you want.

I don't think the Israel lobby will rethink what they are doing. Conspiracies suggest that Israelis were behind the assassination of JFK and that was many years ago. Imagine their power now. Why would they think if their actions are good or bad for Israel? All they care is more money and more power. That's so obvious.

Good luck with them. RIP Mid East.

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» The price for a "friend" Posted by: rocketman
Israel has not acted worse????
Posted by: pierrot on Oct 16, 2007 6:52 AM   
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By steeling land from the innocent Palestinian people over an uninterupted period of time of 40(!) years since 1967 in flagrant violation of countless unanimous UN resolutions, the Geneva Convention, the Human Rights Convetion, Israel committed the biggest crime since WWII - brillant second in place behind the holocaust ... And all this blindly supported with 100 bio $ by the wonder child of democracy, the United States of America! The biggest joke in History.

Only the US is allowed to defend its 'homeland' (against phantomic ennenmies - 9/11 is the direct result of this scandal and totally self inflicted as everybody knows but which is an absolute tabu issue in politics and the media), but not the Palestinians against a very real and UNILATERAL agressor, Israel.

Very obviousely Israel is the terrorist, the bad boy, the unilateral agressor, the rough state.

But that's the USA - you get it wrong every time, decade after decade in blattant violation every time of your own principles, rules, laws ... as a result of systematic self glorification, self overestimation, addiction to double standars and rampant hypocysie.

Nobody except the unspeakable but irrelevant iranian president is for the destruction of Israel. But Israel must abandon its criminal, facist, racist settlemets and retreat to the 67 border - UNCONDITIONALLY of course. Asking the Palestinians to first stop violence and to desarm is cynical - it's like beating a child and asking it to stop crying before stopping to beat it. This is perfectly perverse but the eternal trick by Israel to never have have even to start talking peace with the Palestinians - as just now again - they coudn't care less about naive Condolezza - Israel never wanted peace, they never will agree to an independant Palestinian state. Israel wants the whole ofthe Palestinians land (every settler tells you so) and even if it takes 100 years.

The settlements are NOT in the interest of the US and behaving like good old Hitler is not precisely the way for the US to make friends in the world, and for Israel to combat antisemitism - the huge crimes committed by Israel have made antisemitism anyway completely irrelevant, but it remains the mantra of the israel lobby against every critic. ... but only so far - the tide is turning.

Why the hell is the other wise brilliant Hillary and her husband Bill still licking the ass of AIPAC? - an absolute enigma.

The moment the US orders Israel to abandon its criminal settlements (threatening economic sanctions) the whole muslim world will embrace you and justice and peace would be restored or at least at hand in the Middle East.

Long live Jimmy Carter

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» Strawmen.. Posted by: pig
We actually give more money to Egypt than we give to Israel
Posted by: Intellect on Oct 16, 2007 6:56 AM   
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Morality?
It has nothing to do with religious reasons.
The reason to support Israel is that it is our only true ally in the middle east. Its cooperation is essential to the fight against world terrorism.
Israel is the only true democracy in the middle east and as such it is morally imperative that we assist in its survival.
Israel is also never the aggressor. It responds to attacks, not initiates them. It has even given back most of the lands it won in the various wars initiated upon Israel by its neighboring states - that is the equivalent to our giving California back to Mexico. No other country has done that.
When Israel was founded the Arab occupants of what became Israel were not driven out - many chose to leave to begin the never ending war against Israel.
Those who chose to stay became full citizens of Israel and make up 20% of Israel's population. They enjoy full rights of citizenship. They have elected representatives to represent them in the Knesset, the Israeli Parliament. Arab citizens of Israel identify themselves as Israeli.
Israel is also the only country in the region that is based on the rule of law.
Israel has tried time and time again to make peace with its aggressive neighbors, peace offers that have been rejected time after time. The only portions of land Israel finally decided to retain, the Left Bank and Gaza, were retained because they had repeatedly been used as a base by the "Palestinians" to lob rockets and mortars into Israel targeting Israeli citizens, aggression that is still continually occurring.
These also are the areas from which suicide bombers sneak into Israel to murder innocent civilians. There is no moral equivalency between Israel and its neighbors.

In order to see for yourself what problems face Israel read the Hamas Charter and Covenant .
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Hamas_Covenant#The_Covenant
_of_the_Islamic_Resistance_Movement_.28Hamas.29

Article Thirteen:
The Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas)
Initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences, are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement. Abusing any part of Palestine is abuse directed against part of religion. Nationalism of the Islamic Resistance Movement is part of its religion. Its members have been fed on that. For the sake of hoisting the banner of Allah over their homeland they fight. "Allah will be prominent, but most people do not know."

Now and then the call goes out for the convening of an international conference to look for ways of solving the (Palestinian) question. Some accept, others reject the idea, for this or other reason, with one stipulation or more for consent to convening the conference and participating in it. Knowing the parties constituting the conference, their past and present attitudes towards Moslem problems, the Islamic Resistance Movement does not consider these conferences capable of realising the demands, restoring the rights or doing justice to the oppressed. These conferences are only ways of setting the infidels in the land of the Moslems as arbitrators. When did the infidels do justice to the believers?

"But the Jews will not be pleased with thee, neither the Christians, until thou follow their religion; say, The direction of Allah is the true direction. And verily if thou follow their desires, after the knowledge which hath been given thee, thou shalt find no patron or protector against Allah." (The Cow - verse 120).

There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors. The Palestinian people know better than to consent to having their future, rights and fate toyed with. As is said in the honourable Hadith:

Diana
Posted by: pilcher19 on Oct 16, 2007 7:41 AM   
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It would be useful to have the opinion of Prof's. Mearsheimer & Walt on what would happen if the US wisely decided to slowly reduce the amount of aid to Israel and also voted with the rest of the world on UN resolutions related to the continued occupation of Palestinian territory. Would the sky fall?

» RE: Diana Posted by: Joshua Holland
What happened on October 13, 2007 in Calif. "No More Wars for Israel"
Posted by: wawa on Oct 16, 2007 7:59 AM   
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"The nation which indulges toward another…is in some degree a slave…a passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils."-Pres. George Washington, 1796



[Irvine, California, October 13, 2007] I arrived at the Irvine Marriott last Friday evening because I was scheduled to speak the next day at "The No More Wars for Israel Conference" which had been dedicated to Mordecahi Vanunu.

I learned then that the event had been canceled.

Mark Glenn, one of the Coordinators, informed me that three days prior, the Marriott requested payment of $20,000.00, although there was no such requirement in the contract.

Mark told me he was able to secure $8,000 within twenty-four hours and even after a visit from a representative from CAIR, Council of American-Islamic Relations [http://www.cair.com/]informed the Marriott's Events Coordinator that twenty speakers from around the Nation were on their way; the event would not happen at the Marriott as planned.

Dr. Hesham Tillawi, Palestinian American, Political Analyst and TV show host of "Current Issues" reported that he spoke with Marriott Representative, Diana Harrison. "I asked her if we came up with all the money, would that be OK and she responded, 'The event has been canceled.'"

I had traveled from Florida to speak about how freedom of speech had been denied in Israel to Mordechai Vanunu, and was aghast to learn it also had been squelched in Irvine.

While I did not agree with many things some of the speakers said during the rescheduled event at a local church that began nine hours after originally planned, I uphold that all people have the right to think their own thoughts and speak their own minds.

The conference continued on Sunday, but I had already split and found out on Monday that some of the speakers, who spoke on Sunday, were white supremacists. I thank God I was not in attendance, for I abhor and detest any ideology which presupposes any person is superior to any other.

I am however grateful to have made the long trip to meet the diversity that is America; Christians, Muslims, agnostics and two Orthodox Rabbis against the ideology of Zionism, but most especially to have had the opportunity to hear the President of the USS LIBERTY Veterans Association, Phillip F. Tourney.


The Rest WAWA Blog October 16, 2007:
http://www.wearewideawake.org


Eileen Fleming, Reporter and Editor
Http://www.wearewideawake.org/
Author "Keep Hope Alive" and "Memoirs of a Nice Irish American Girl's' Life in Occupied Territory"
Producer "30 Minutes With Vanunu."

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Campus Fascists
Posted by: MLMrev on Oct 16, 2007 8:44 AM   
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Moreover, there are now cronies on campuses (led by David Horowitz) trying to whip up fervor for more torture and war on Iran through what they call "Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week." Very scary stuff. Check out the
YOUTUBE VIDEO: Expose "IFAW"
and another YOUTUBE exposure of it!
Pass this along!

2008
Posted by: diarmaid on Oct 16, 2007 9:15 AM   
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Why would Israelis prepare a presedential candidate ranking page?

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/rosnerPage.jhtml

I don't remember seeing a similar interest in '08 elections from another country.

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Video
Posted by: diarmaid on Oct 16, 2007 9:34 AM   
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911, the Iraq War, Radical Islam, All Originate From Here
Posted by: sofla100 on Oct 16, 2007 3:13 PM   
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It is the USA's unconditional support for Israel that has caused her, and the world, such tremendous problems. First of all, USA support for Israel is about $10 billion US dollars per year, or 20% of Israel's defense budget. This is about 10 times the amount of support any other country receives. Also, much of Israel's American support is military in nature, this includes cluster bombs, white phosphorus and other munitions. Weapons whose primary value is not so much against military targets, but is more aimed at inflicting terror in civilian populations. Question, why does the USA supply Israel with such weapons? But, beyond this, the growth of radical Islam and Osama Bin Laden comes directly out of the reaction in the Arab World to America's unconditional support of Israel and the Palestinian crises. The USA approach is to support Israel in her belief that she can simply trample her Arab neighboors to get what she wants. Witness the Lebanon invasion and the relentless flood of settlers into the Palestinian territories. The Arabs are stuck with having to defend themselves. This is the root of all the problem in the Middle East. America's continued and relentless support for Israel. An Israel who only believes in using military might to control and dominate others.

OK. Taboo broken. But "Israel Lobby" is a clumsy club.
Posted by: Sojourner on Oct 16, 2007 3:21 PM   
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My point about Mersheimer's mistaken comparison of the so-called Israel Lobby to NRA and AARP is that he has given us a frame for discussion that treats AIPAC like the KKK or the Communist Party, etc. Yes, most membership organizations do lobby. But most lobbies are not membership organizations, as are NRA and AARP, etc.

When asked who the so-called Israel Lobby are, beyond AIPAC and Bnai Brit and a few others it gets very fuzzy very fast. I belong to no Jewish organizations, and I applaud the Israelis working to improve the lot of Palestinians. But the so-called Israel Lobby as used by Mersheimer is a bogeyman and adds to our confusion.

This thread is full of comments about what foreign policy is bad about Israel and what is good for America. I thought the issue was about the so-called IL simply exerting unquestionable power over policy. Instead the discussion drifts into debates over specific decisions.

That is the consequence of introducing a confused (admittedly mesmerizing; stereotypes make thinking unnecessary) notion such as the so-called IL. See what a difference it makes when referring to it to add "so-called."

I think we need 100 more stupid articles on AIPAC. There are other more important issues.
Posted by: yellow on Oct 16, 2007 3:42 PM   
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OK. Over/under on the closing of these comments!!

Plenty of comments deleted and posters banned.
Posted by: cringinginamazement on Oct 16, 2007 7:10 PM   
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Anyone notice how nobody seems to be quite able to land the killer blow on Josh Holland and they disappear just when it seems he's about to go down in flames?

It's a curious phenomenon. Guess it's the overwhelming power of his intellect and robust argument.

There must be quite a community of people who've disagreed with Yellow/Josh Holland out there who've been banned for winning arguments.

Someone should start a blog like....

alternetrefugees.blogspot.com

» Just as Mearsheimer and Walt said... Posted by: Democratic Socialist
» Sad but true. Posted by: pig
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» I wish that were true. Posted by: pig
Peter Biddulph, Worcestershire, England
Posted by: peter_maryb on Oct 18, 2007 12:52 AM   
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In a reference to Michael Moore and Farhenheit 9/11, you make the comment that he was wrong to say the American oil companies are behind the US Middle East foreign policy.
Well, the companies may or may not have been, I do not have information on that. What we do know however is that for recurring White House administrations, oil was and is the central driving force. Not just in the Middle East, but across the Caspian sea and the "Stan" states.
1. In 1985 Bob McFarlane devised a top secret review of US strategy for Iran. (Partially declassified in 1987). The central theme was access to oil in the Caspian Sea zones, and safety of shipping in the Strait of Hormuz.
2. The opening line of President Bush Sr's 1991 presidential directive authorising the commencement of Desert Storm to force Saddam Hussein out of Kuwait was "Access to Gulf oil and security of friendly states in the area are vital for America's security."
2. The US media are peppered with admissions by former Treasury secretaries and retired generals. Middle East oil and access to cheap energy is vital to America's economic well being. It was, it has now been confirmed, central to the Iraq invasion. It was "all about oil".
3. Oil was the driving force behind America's demonisation of Libya in the 1980s. Libya made it easy with a clumsy and at times dangerous foreign policy. But those 41 billion barrels (equal to one third of all north American and Canadian reserves at that time) of high grade low process cost oil were the driving force. The evidence emerged in 1995 when the White House emails relating to Iran-Contra and other Middle Eastern disputes were published by the National Security Archive of America, edited by Tom Blanton. Incidentally, the first consignments of arms to Nicaragua in Iran-Contra were carried on Israeli ships, and funded by tranches of Saudi Arabian money.
Best wishes to you both for an excellent exposure of Israel's malign influence on US policy over the last sixty years.

luxdem
Posted by: alter on Oct 18, 2007 8:03 AM   
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M&W's book is a good "primer" on the history of the Middle East conflict. But there is nothing particularly new in the book for those who have already done their homework on the subject. What is disappointing about the book is that it avoids completely the real core issue, which is Zionism. The debate that needs to take place is not about the lobby but rather what makes the lobby and the millions of Israel supporters so hyper-passionate to the point of being dangerous to those who oppose them? Zionism is a brainless idea, for those who have looked at it closely, hatched in the 1890's by about the need for a "national homeland" for a religious group. Most of those who are attracted to the notion are not even religious. Yet they are passionate. Why? What do they know about the Jewish people? No one denies that Jews were abused in European history, mainly because they were a minority religious group who had to stay united because they believed, and still believe, that the Messiah is going to come to their people. Under those circumstance better stick together. But is this a reason to embrace a notion that that religious group needs to have its own country? No Rabbi in the 1890's asscribed to Zionism. So who makes this claim on behalf of all Jews? Perhaps we should go back to the 1890's and start again. Zionism has nothing to do with Judaism. The problem is that we are now in the year 2000 and it's too late to claim your own territory. Israel is the only country that claims to be democratic yet does not have a constitution. Why? How many readers know this? The reason is that it is impossible to write a sensible document about a Zionist nation. Why is this not central M&W, who apologize every three paragraphs about not being anti-Semitic. Do M&W not realize Zionism is at heart of all the "anti-Semitic" hyteria in the first place? The famous "Protocols", first written in the early 1900's, were widely believed for the very reason that Zionism had just been born at the First Zionist Conference. The Protocols were perported to be the minutes of this meeting. Was it so implausible? What we now know about the Israel Lobby makes the Protocol's logic all the more logical. Are we headed for another wave of anti-Semitism? If so is there anything surprising about it?