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Al Gore Wins the Nobel Peace Prize, Will He Run in '08?

By Robert Parry, Consortium News. Posted October 12, 2007.


Al Gore’s supporters are making a last-ditch bid to convince him to make another run for the presidency. Will he change his mind now that he's won the Nobel Peace Prize?

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In a full-page New York Times ad on Oct. 10, a group of grassroots Democrats, called DraftGore.com, published an open letter to Gore pleading with him to enter the race.

"You say you have fallen out of love with politics, and you have every reason to feel that way," the letter read. "But we know you have not fallen out of love with your country. And your country needs you now -- as do your party and the planet you are fighting so hard to save."

Across the country, local draft-Gore groups have sprung up, preparing for signature drives to put Gore on the ballot in Democratic primaries, even as the clock on registration deadlines ticks down.

Some Gore backers hope that Gore might change his mind and enter the race after Oct. 12, the scheduled date for announcing the Nobel Peace Prize, for which he is a nominee because of his work on global warming.

The urgency that these rank-and-file Democrats feel about a Gore candidacy derives, in part, from the inadequacies of the current crop of presidential hopefuls who are seen as lacking the foresight, the experience or the gravitas that Gore offers.

Front-runner Hillary Clinton may have reinvented herself as an Iraq War critic for the Democratic primaries, but she was a staunch supporter of the war from 2002 to 2005, even aligning herself with Sen. John McCain's advocacy for a military escalation.

In a Dec. 8, 2003, article, New York Times columnist William Safire dubbed Sen. Clinton "a congenital hawk" whose mantra on Iraq was "failure is not an option."

It was not until George W. Bush's approval ratings went into freefall in late 2005 -- and Sen. Clinton was eyeing the Democratic presidential nomination -- that she began repositioning herself as a war opponent.

By contrast, Gore was one of the few politicians of national stature who vocally opposed a preemptive war against Iraq amid the war fever of the time. In a speech in San Francisco on Sept. 23, 2002, he described the dangers of the Bush Doctrine's muscular unilateralism and the harm that could result from charging into Iraq.

Bashing Gore

Gore was excoriated by the Inside-the-Beltway pundit class for his deviant behavior in questioning President Bush's wisdom.

"Gore's speech was one no decent politician could have delivered," wrote Washington Post columnist Michael Kelly. "It was dishonest, cheap, low. It was hollow. It was bereft of policy, of solutions, of constructive ideas, very nearly of facts -- bereft of anything other than taunts and jibes and embarrassingly obvious lies. It was breathtakingly hypocritical, a naked political assault delivered in tones of moral condescension from a man pretending to be superior to mere politics. It was wretched. It was vile. It was contemptible."

"A pudding with no theme but much poison," declared another Post columnist, Charles Krauthammer. "It was a disgrace -- a series of cheap shots strung together without logic or coherence."

While some pundits depicted Gore's motivation as "opportunism," columnist William Bennett mocked Gore for banishing himself "from the mainstream of public opinion." In an op-ed for the Wall Street Journal, entitled "Al Gore's Political Suicide," Bennett said Gore had engaged in "an act of self-immolation" by daring to criticize Bush's policy.

"Now we have reason to be grateful once again that Al Gore is not the man in the White House, and never will be," Bennett wrote.

Indeed, while doing the research for our new book, Neck Deep: The Disastrous Presidency of George W. Bush, I was surprised how often it was Gore who emerged from the political shadows to give a speech that crystallized the challenges facing the country.

Beyond his prescient comments about the Iraq War and his leadership on global warming, Gore offered erudite explanations of how Bush's arrogation of power marked an unprecedented assault on the U.S. Constitution and the delicate system of checks and balances that the Founders devised to protect the liberties of the American people.

Gore emerges as one of Neck Deep's few heroes, the rare political figure who dared to tell the truth and endure the wrath of Washington insiders.

While Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois also can cite his early opposition to the Iraq War, his weakness is his shortage of government experience. So, when Obama makes brave comments, such as the need to avoid nuclear brinkmanship and the wisdom of talking to enemies, his statements are dismissed as "gaffes."

As for former Sen. John Edwards, the other Democratic "big three" candidate, he suffers from a combination of weaknesses. While in the Senate, he voted to give Bush the authority to invade Iraq (though he has since apologized for that vote); his government service is limited to one term in the Senate; and although a skilled orator, he is easily portrayed as lacking much gravitas.

The other candidates -- despite positive qualities -- have not caught fire with Democratic voters, failing to move out of the single digits in most polls.

Fair play

Gore has one other powerful argument working for him. He is the only living American -- and the first in more than a century -- who won the national popular vote for President but was denied the White House.

Though a Gore candidacy would surely be met with more derision from the Washington pundit class, most Americans have a deep-seated sense of fair play. They believe that if someone plays by the rules and wins, the victory should not be stolen just because the other guy has more money, is more ruthless, or has better-connected friends.

Plus, millions of Americans now perceive Election 2000 as a harmful turning point in the nation's history, a moment when the nation was at a crossroads and lurched off in the wrong direction, before paying a horrible price.

Seven years ago, when Gore won the national popular vote against Bush and apparently also was the choice of a plurality of voters who went to the polls in Florida, the conventional wisdom was quite different: that the outcome of the election wasn't all that important.

Indeed, during the bitter Florida recount battle, the prevailing opinion in Washington was that Gore should step aside and let Bush take the White House. That supposedly would end the unpleasantness that was widely blamed on Gore even as Bush's hardball strategists dispatched well-dressed hooligans to disrupt the Miami recount.

"Given the present bitterness, given the angry irresponsible charges being hurled by both camps, the nation will be in dire need of a conciliator, a likable guy who will make things better and not worse," wrote Washington Post columnist Richard Cohen. "That man is not Al Gore. That man is George W. Bush."

Cohen's view was widely held in Washington where many commentators openly disdained Gore as a "know-it-all" and favored Bush as a "regular guy" who would put the "adults" from the Reagan-Bush era -- the likes of Colin Powell and Dick Cheney -- back in charge of the federal government.

So, there was a palpable sigh of relief in the power corridors of Washington when five Republican justices on the U.S. Supreme Court blocked the Florida recount and effectively installed the son of the well-liked George H.W. Bush in the White House.

The thinking was that a few seasoned counselors behind the throne could guide the novice President away from any serious missteps and that the sordidness of the Clinton era would finally be brought to an end.

After eight years of hazing Bill Clinton and then Al Gore, the major U.S. news media suddenly began acting as if its primary duty was to protect the fragile legitimacy of George W. Bush's presidency -- a dynamic that deepened after the 9/11 terror attacks and continued through the first two years of war in Iraq.

Tide turned

It would not be until late summer 2005 -- when Hurricane Katrina ravaged New Orleans and the Bush administration bungled the federal emergency response -- that the tide turned and the news media began to hold Bush accountable for the disasters that have been the hallmark of his presidency.

With that sea change came a grudging reassessment of Gore. It was harder to hold him up to easy ridicule since many of his dire prophecies had turned out to be true. Some of his supporters dubbed him the "Goreacle."

But Gore continued to resist the urgent appeals from his backers to enter the presidential race and offer the American voters a chance to correct what many see as the historic injustice of Election 2000.

Now, some of those supporters have resorted to an open letter urging Gore to get off the political sidelines and back into the game.

DraftGore.com's letter reminds Gore that he has often noted that "we are entering a period of consequences with regard to the global climate crisis," adding:

"Only from the Oval Office can you wield the kind of influence needed to move countries, policies and corporations to bring about meaningful change. The period of consequences you talk about is upon us in many other equally critical areas as well. Our Constitution is being trampled and our most cherished civil liberties are in grave danger. The Executive Branch is not accountable to anyone. ...

"Thousands of Americans are dying needlessly in Iraq while our reputation in the world has plummeted to an all-time low. The war on terror is backfiring as our enemies grow stronger and our resources are drained in an endless and unwinnable war. ...

"You were the first American political figure to brave political waters and warn us of the perils of starting a preemptive war in Iraq. You were right. But time to reverse the damage is running out. Given your experience, insight and the respect you enjoy among world leaders, you are uniquely positioned to bring this war to an end and restore America's good name."

The letter concluded: "Mr. Vice President, there are times for politicians and times for heroes. America and the Earth need a hero right now -- someone who will transcend politics as usual and bring real hope to our country and to the world. Please rise to this challenge, or you and millions of us will live forever wondering what might have been."

Whether or not Gore heeds this appeal, many Americans will live out their days wondering what better course the nation might have followed if those five Republican justices had simply allowed the Florida recount to proceed, if they had left the decision on national leadership in the hands of the voters.


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Makes for great theatre
Posted by: tclaverdure on Oct 12, 2007 12:36 AM   
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If Al Gore does enter the race at this stage in the game it will surely make for some interesting theatre.

Hillary looks very smug these days. As if waiting for the inevitable coronation of her (and Bill's) Presidency.

If Al Gore was to enter it would surely make her a more than little nervous. It would destroy the campaigns of Edwards and Obama and pit two old rivals against one another.

Though most will admit either is light years ahead of Dumbya and Darth Cheney and the gang of thugs in the White (more of an dark grey these day's) House.

Hillary's laugh thing was just so weird though. She is free too laugh at the loonatics on the wrong side of the right but man that was too too much. Other than that what a great campaign on her part.

President Hillary Clinton

President Al Gore

President Barak Obama

President John Edwards

All would be so so so much better than what is now in place.

Vote Democrat or Vote for STUPIDITY

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Al Gores not going to get a bost from the peace prize becuase he not going to win!
Posted by: net55 on Oct 12, 2007 1:36 AM   
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Peace Scholar Picks Thich Quang Do As 2007 Nobel Peace Prize Recipient

San Francisco, CA – October 11, 2007 -- “If I had to pick who will win this year’s Nobel Peace Prize, I’d go with Vietnamese monk Thich Quang Do,” declares Scott A. Hunt, peace scholar and author of the award-winning book The Future of Peace: On the Front Lines with the World’s Great Peacemakers. “He’s the real deal -- a courageous, steadfast, peacemaker who, against seemingly insurmountable odds, has spent decades advocating for peace, justice, and religious freedom. He’s been imprisoned, interrogated, threatened, denounced, banished, and placed under house arrest, and still he has continued his struggle. ”.........

Read
the full news release here.

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I never thought I'd miss Gore so much
Posted by: vox persona on Oct 12, 2007 1:56 AM   
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The article brought out a good point, that Gore was not elected because he was the proverbial bathtub ring of the Clinton administration. That, and of course the brownshirt tactics of disrupting the cvote count, plus a partisan "Supreme" Court ruling that would have went the other way if the situation was reversed (so much for 'blind' justice). It didn't hurt Bush that his brother ran the state of Florida, and all of the disenfranchisement and dirty tricks that resulted from that serendipitous placement of power. Then there was the famous 'butterfly ballot', which in itself swung the vote away from voter intent. The whole thing simply stunk, and I've never actually considered this 'president' legitimate. But like the article said, we operated on the template of Gore's stiffness, his sighs, his lockbox, his contrived nature (remember his focus group walking with him on the beach?), and of course his fudging the truth. My gripe is that Democrats tend to lack vertebrae.....whenever ed Gore about 'inventing the internet' he should have not only called them a liar, but looked in the camera and told us we were being manipulated and lied to; then he should have explained every time what he said was that he was among the vanguard of Senators whose votes for funding brought an in-house project for the Pentagon into the public sphere, thereby 'creating' the thing we call the internet. You can create an ice cream sundae in your kitchen, but that doesn't mean you invented it. Funny how one intentional word replacement can cause so much harm when not responded to correctly. Kerry did the same thing with Swift Boat and 'voted for it before I voted against it'. So we got Boy Emperor because the sheeple were so easily herded. We can NEVER LET THAT HAPPEN AGAIN!

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Gore won it!!!
Posted by: themotie on Oct 12, 2007 2:38 AM   
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Together with the IPCC. Eat that!

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Good thing I'm up at 4am
Posted by: Donna_Darko on Oct 12, 2007 2:49 AM   
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Too much DC and coffee!

I got the news 5 minutes after it happened!

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» Late Posted by: themotie
» RE: Late Posted by: Donna_Darko
» RE: Late Posted by: themotie
"Nobel prize winner" ought to make a difference
Posted by: Suzon on Oct 12, 2007 3:25 AM   
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Thinking people appreciate Al Gore's seriousness, despite the easily-mocked mannerisms. People who wouldn't vote for Hilary would vote Gore.

Republican voters would turn out to vote against Hilary, but some might abstain if Gore was the Democratic candidate.

The "Nobel prize winning candidate" would get the votes of those who have no strong political loyalties and haven't the time or energy or inclination to think deeply. That might be a majority!

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an american
Posted by: dorman on Oct 12, 2007 3:34 AM   
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Like Jimmy Carter, he should bid a do....
Enough is enough

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» He might bid a don't. Posted by: Beck
My Letter of 1 Oct to Al Gore-BE OUR NEXT PRESIDENT!
Posted by: drricklippin on Oct 12, 2007 4:05 AM   
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The Office of the Honorable Al Gore
2100 West End Avenue
Suite 620
Nashville, TN 37203

October 1, 2007

Dear Mr. Gore;
You have been my chosen candidate for President for over two years.

I am ready to throw my support to Senator Clinton, but thought before I do I would ask one more time for you to consider running for President.

I recognize the great personal sacrifice you and your family would be making

Mr. Gore-

-You were green only second to Kermit the Frog of Sesame Street. This is an issue of monumental global importance where you have led.

-You understand the complex issues facing our nation in a global world both domestic and foreign. Your very being is one of Presidential gravitas.

-You should re-run in part as a service to our nation so we can cleanse ourselves of our collective guilt that we have (I for one have) about letting the courts steal the presidency away from you in 2000 and handing it over to a person who almost destroyed our once great nation.

On a personal note Mr Gore, my mother's last presidential vote in 2000, age 85, before she died in Palm Beach County, Florida was for meant to be for you .By mistake she voted for Pat Buchanan because of the butterfly ballot design/confusion.In her and others memory I thought "we the people" could have done more to demand justice for you and our voters who were cheated.I am not a legal or voting law scholar, but I assure you I was very angry and actually ashamed that this could happen in our nation.

Mr Gore-It's never too late to allow us make amends and to heal our nation.

So I appeal to you, finally Mr. Gore- Be our next US President

Sincerely and my very best wishes for good health;


Dr. Rick Lippin
Southampton, Pa
http://medicalcrises.blogspot.com

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It's not all or nothing!
Posted by: SBK on Oct 12, 2007 4:06 AM   
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Relax people, if he doesn't want to run, don't bug him, there is plenty of room within the next administration for his wise self. It's not like he can't be Hilary's Sustainable Development Commissioner! That is no small job considering our status on environmental policy. President is not the end-all-be-all for a politician, there are many more ways they can make a difference in government--which are arguably more powerful than the role of the Decider.

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» I agree Posted by: themotie
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» RE: It's not all or nothing? Oh yes it is! Posted by: LeftCoastProgressive
It may be the only way to get us back on track.
Posted by: Morgaine Swann on Oct 12, 2007 4:55 AM   
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My choice of the field running is Kucinich, but the media won't give him a chance. Gore would make the race exciting, and he might be just mad enough at this point to really fight when the Republicans try to steal another one.

There's a nice symmetry to the idea of President Gore finally being able to serve his term in office. Plus, we've never had a sitting president who was a Nobel prize winner, or an Oscar winner, let alone BOTH! He's winning everything else, maybe now it's time for him to get in there and clean up this mess that Bush has made.

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» One minor correction Posted by: NWCrow
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Gore for President .......... of the Environment
Posted by: rocketman on Oct 12, 2007 5:19 AM   
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Contratulations to Gore for his efforts in raising awareness of global warming. While some agrue his facts are wrong and they contain errors, no one can deny the fact that we need to pay more attention to our planet - and he has definitely raised awareness on those issues!

As for Gore for President, he is probably the last person I'd vote for. His anti American speech given in Saudi Arabia a few years ago, enraging Arabs while our troops are in Iraq fighting, stamps him as a self serving politician. (are there any other kind).

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» Only they're not ... Posted by: themotie
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Al Gore is a true leader and he has proven that.
Posted by: greentime on Oct 12, 2007 5:25 AM   
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I would love to have Al Gore as President, he already won that office. He was denied, and so were we, by an illegitimate gang of oily thugs and corporate thieves who stole not just this election but stole our country. Now they are busy stealing the world.

Al Gore with his Nobel Prize and all his other accolades and global respect is destined for greater things. So are we.

Perhaps he can do more for this weary planet by working with the rest of the world to challenge America's foolish claim of world domination and our all too active global destruction!

He will lead! He is leading now. The best we can do for him is to follow him along with the rest of the world and give him our full support!

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hell of a bully pulpit
Posted by: jefhadist on Oct 12, 2007 5:41 AM   
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the presidency would be the ultimate bully pulpit for al gore and the rest of us still left with a conscience and an ounce of empathy for the planet. it's al's for the asking... if he wants it. i personally hope he throws his hat in the ring....along with cynthia mCkinney and ralph nader and all the rest of us thirty five years or older. what the hell...we should all be running for president. the times demand it!

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Al Gore is a dullard
Posted by: Lajaw on Oct 12, 2007 5:50 AM   
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and a fake. His IQ is on par with the current POTUS. Hw would not be an improvement. Get over him!

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Al Gore, Yes!!!! Hillary, Never!!!!
Posted by: bjandresen on Oct 12, 2007 5:50 AM   
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I am a life long Democrat, and if Hillary gets the nomination this time around, that will change. I will sit out this election. I will not, I repeat, will not ever vote for another Clinton. It was Bill that brought us NAFTA and the 1996 Telecommunications Act. These folks are corporate Republicans. When Bush gave his speech about going into Iraq Hillary was right there jumping up to clap every few seconds, like she had a spring attached to her rear.

Bill ruined the careers of at least two good Democrats - Al Gore and former Congressman Leon Panetta. If Al Gore will step up to the plate I will once again become active in a Presidential election. Al, can you hear us? Please, please run!!

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» RE: Al Gore, Yes!!!! Hillary, Never!!!! Posted by: tommy_slothrop
RUN AL RUN
Posted by: Bonni - Boston on Oct 12, 2007 5:54 AM   
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Hillary's smugness will get her no where near the White House, next year. There are too many bad feelings for her in the heartland, she doesn't stand a chance. Obama, love him, but not enough experience. Love Edwards, too, as a Veep but not Prez. So, who provides the best chance to kick the Republicans to the curb? GORE! A Gore/Edwards ticket could provide a landslide.

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Nobel Winners
Posted by: Nugeman on Oct 12, 2007 6:29 AM   
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Al Gore can be added to the list.

Jimmy Carter--worst president ever
Yassar Arafat--murdering terrorist
Al Gore--buffoon

The Nobel prize lost its luster along time ago.

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Run, Forest, run!! ... for the borders, not the White House
Posted by: LMNOP on Oct 12, 2007 6:38 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I would be surprised and disappointed if Gore reentered the cesspool of American politics.

First, the election is fixed. There is no reason to think that the Neocons would peacefully cede power. This is NOT a democracy (remember the 2006 mandate to fund the war completely and without benchmarks or timelines, and then escalate it? me neither. He already won it once and was cheated by his own people. If he runs, call him Charlie Brown.

Second, why would anyone volunteer to take the slanderous abuse of an American political campaign for the benefit of the fickle, brain-dead American people? They (we*) don't deserve him and wouldn't appreciate him. He's too good for America.

And if time stopped and he was accidentally allowed into the White House, the abuse would continue for four to eight years as the American people, once chanting for Al to run in 2008, now abandon him, point fingers at him derisively and call him Internet fraud or Love Story plagiarist or whatever new lie it comes up with next. Self-respect. Nobody with any would subject themselves to the filth of the corporatocracy with the simple, disloyal American simps shouting like a Frankenstein mob, or better yet, the crowd that wanted the witch burned in Holy Grail (Burrrrnn herrr!!!). Idiots. Ingrates

But we needn't worry about any of that. If Gore lost his mind and murdered his self-respect, and somehow slipped past Diebold and the Republicans, [fourth,] what are the chances of him not being murdered if he fights the neocons? Fifty percent? I mean on the first day. Too optimistic? Let's be generous and say that there's a ten percent chance of survival for the first week, and none for the first year.

America has no use for great people any longer. They're systematically marginalized or eliminated and replaced with scum across the board. Look at how they're savaging Carter now. Where's Paul Wellstone? Have they found the terrorists who anthraxed D.C. in 2001 when the last US senator took a principled stand against the fascist corporatocracy? I hear Bush is looking for them like O.J. is looking for the real killer.

I'm sorry, but this nation has been irreversibly (in our lifetimes, anyway) befouled, like the Arctic Ocean after the Exxon Valdez, or Iraq following years of pouring depleted uranium over the entire desert. You can try to clean up such a mess if you like, but you'd better move away until its clean and safe again, which may be never.

These people are not safe to live amongst, let alone lead. Nor would they recognize or deserve good leadership. I say, let the ditto heads become peasants and service the national debt, pay for their obscene war*, populate the Army, fast food joints and prisons of America. Why fight your own government and most of your so-called compatriots for a better life when there are plenty of better places to be.

If you cannot psychologically disentrain from the Amerikans (Neocons and ditto heads), they'll surely take you down with them in both big and small ways.

I hope Al Gore realizes this and avoids American politics from here out. Have a nice life, Al. Move to the Caribbean or Mediterranean. Give the big finger back to the contemptible Amerikan drones that gave it to you in 2000 while stupidly chuckling about Love Canal and greenhouse gasses.

*[Dissenters were excluded from the pre-war "debate" and worse. I'll be goddamned if I'm going to be denied a seat at the table but then be expected to help clean up the dishes and pay for the meal. Homey don't play dat.]

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» Huh? Posted by: LMNOP
» Good Post! Posted by: Cathyc
Enough of the Clintons and the Bushs
Posted by: Shiv on Oct 12, 2007 6:49 AM   
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Wouldn’t it be poetic justice for Al to step in now and steal the candidacy from Hillary? This would really serve Bill and Hillary right. I’m a liberal person but I have such an aversion to Hillary as a person never mind a political figure that I might not vote at all.

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DOES ANYONE ELSE REMEMBER ?
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Oct 12, 2007 7:07 AM   
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At the very beginning of the "Liberation of Iraq" George Bush and Tony Blair were mentioned as possibe nominees for the Nobel Peace Prize. They must both be devestated. Thanks, ANNA

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» Limbaugh, too Posted by: LMNOP
He'd be insane to run
Posted by: sofun on Oct 12, 2007 7:13 AM   
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The mess in Iraq is so horrific that Gore couldn't possibly want the job of trying to clean up the Republican disaster there. The Bushies have run the national debt through the roof and the country is a shambles. Gore's passion is climate change and the Presidency would place too many other demands on him.

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A different man
Posted by: Constitutionalist75 on Oct 12, 2007 7:30 AM   
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When Al Gore said on a talk show that he is "a recovering politician" I gained new respect for him, which I had lost in previous years. Thus, I hope his recovery continues. So far he's doing really great and he certainly deserves his Nobel Prize!

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Enough already!
Posted by: drich on Oct 12, 2007 8:02 AM   
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If Hillary wasn't already anointed by the MSM, would there be this push for Gore to run? Enough already! Let him have some peace.

He can be far more effective in the world speaking from the platform he now has rather than being hemmed in by the demands and constraints of being president. Do you think he would be free to speak out like he is if he were in the White House? I doubt it.

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What about the elephant in the room?
Posted by: ScottP on Oct 12, 2007 8:26 AM   
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And so the author and the writers of the letter to draft Gore ignore the reasons Gore isn't running, as well as the reasons that lead to the situation that drove Gore away from DC. Gore already said why he won't run, but I'll restate it in even more plain English: DC is run by thugs, stooges for the robber barons. Immoral, greedy people who support torture and genocide for fun and profit. People who order assassinations of people who get in their way. He's sick and tired of being attacked by them and left to twist in the wind by his fair weather supporters.

And why are these thugs in control of DC? Because of small minded hero worshippers like the draft Gore people. "We need a hero" translated to plain English means "I'm too lazy and chicken to take action myself, but I'll sit safely on the sidelines and cheer when someone brave goes into the lion pit". People who are too chicken to even let themselves be known as supporting Kucinich based on principle, because their friends may perceive that they would support a loser. Too chicken to vote Green. Too chicken to admit that they might in fact be part of the problem.

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The replies to this article
Posted by: willymack on Oct 12, 2007 9:17 AM   
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Are predictable enough. Those who think Gore is a dud don't seem to know doodley-squat about him. How can such a great orator and essayist be a dud? Who are you using for comparison? Name ONE great paper or ONE great speech attributable to our Dear leader, whose mind is as fertile and as nimble as a brick. Could it be that Gore is unpalatable because of his intellect? Look at what's happened to us and the world with Boy Genius Georgiepoo in charge! Don't you think it's time for someone with a genuine INTELLECT? Someone who cares about all of humanity-not just a clique of billionaires? Someone with actual experience in and around the White House?

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This US sickness...
Posted by: vangogh69 on Oct 12, 2007 9:33 AM   
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What is wrong with people thinking there will be some Savior to come along and fix what is basically a fucked system? Even supposing an honest person does get into the White House (I won't hold my breath), he/she will be surrounded by lots of jackals planning to pounce at the first sight of weakness. It's great that Gore is bringing more attention to environmental degradation, but let's keep it real...

While Gore was in office he did not (to my knowledge) oppose the sanctions against Iraq nor the US/NATO bombing of Kosovo. Rwanda anyone? This is to say nothing of the safety net of social programs, some of which took some heavy hits during the Clinton administration. Because we are living in times of war/occupation and a coming economic catastrophe, we cannot overlook Gore's record on these issues nor make environmentalism the most important issue above all others. EVEN THEN, however, Gore isn't challanging globalization/neo-capitalism/capitalism, an economic system WHICH IS LARGELY TO BLAME FOR ENVIRONMENTAL DEGRADATION so how seriously should his critique be taken? Global Warming is one of the most serious issues facing humanity, but we cannot address it in a vacuum nor hope to have a future with the same present inequalities, domestically and globally.

Anyway, save yourself cause Gore ain't it. 2 cents.

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» RE: This US sickness... Posted by: dlueth
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Gore and Nobel
Posted by: mylesh on Oct 12, 2007 9:39 AM   
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I love irony.
Gore winning the supreme prize for peace. Who next? Kissinger? Oh, yeah, they gave it to him already.

Gore oversaw the genocidal sanctions in Iraq by Clinton.
Helped to push the regime change law which gave George Bush the green light to invade.
On the environment he was sent to Kyoto to sabatoge it for the nuclear power industry. He succeeded.

Someone above said Vote Democrat or Vote Stupid.

Only a fool would be hit over the head time and time again and think a different sized piece of wood would have a different effect.
Vote Democrat and continue the war.
Vote Democrat and continue insurance control of health care.
Vote Democrat and see an ever increasing surge in nuclear power plant construction.
Vote Democrat and see more children taken off public assistance (as Clinton did).
Vote Democrat and ....

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» RE: Gore and Nobel Posted by: dlueth
» RE: Gore and Nobel Posted by: babs
This country deserves Bush and all his gang of criminals
Posted by: Nick on Oct 12, 2007 9:42 AM   
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If another side cannot come up with anything better then Gore

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Beelzebub
Posted by: Strawman on Oct 12, 2007 9:52 AM   
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Eight More Years of Bush Leadership is Needed. People voted for George Bush and his daddy. He has two brothers who are experienced and dedicated to the principles of the people who voted him and his father into office. I say give the American people 16 more years of Bush rule, then maybe Jenna or Barbara (Sr. or Jr.) can lead them all to the promised land as far into the future as we can see. Americans deserve it. They are ignorant sheep, fearful, respectful of power and harsh words. They do not deserve freedom or happiness because they cannot handle it.

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Al Gore for Prez... I asked people in a bar last night
Posted by: Ghoulman on Oct 12, 2007 10:40 AM   
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... a nice bistro on my small Canadian island. Everyone, young and old, wanted Al Gore. They REALLY did. They understand and like him. They don't like Hillary and Obama is the new guy.

Of course Al won't run. An environmental president? Of the United States? The corporations, and corporate media, would never allow it. After all, corporations don't give a shit about tomorrow, only the bottom line. And corporations own America. Heck, they want to own everything. Even the air.

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Gore and the Iraq War
Posted by: CatDad on Oct 12, 2007 10:55 AM   
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Many progressives naively assume that there would have been no war in Iraq had Bush not been anointed by the Supreme Court by his dad's cronies. Our nation's ruling elite wanted this war. The president does the bidding of the corporate elites...not the will of the people. When a president tries to go against the grain...such as JFK with not escalating the war in Vietnam...well..bad things tend to happen to presidents who march to a different drummer than the conventional wisdom corporate elites. If anything, Gore with a Vice President LIEBERMAN might have gone into Baghdad even sooner than Bush did.

Yes, Gore is on record in 2002 as being against the war....I think that this came from a place of rage and anger from having the presidency stolen from him....Had he gotten in like he should have in 2000...I think he would have walked the line on the wishes of the corporate/military, oil and AIPAC interests.

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» RE: Gore and the Iraq War Posted by: davescott
Enough already!
Posted by: left-leaning-libertarian on Oct 12, 2007 11:16 AM   
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I really like Al Gore; I've met him briefly (during the 2000 campaign) and voted for him without holding my nose; he would have made a fine--even a great--president and the country would be a thousand times better off today had he been allowed to take the office to which he was elected.

I am elated in his receipt of the Nobel Peace Prize! Well deserved, and may it allow him to achieve even greater things.

All this being said; I really wish we could stop all this "Run, Al, Run" BS and focus on the very good candidates already in the race. Why?

1. The MSM (and, indeed, a lot of the so-called "Liberal Media"--are you listening, Maureen Dowd?) has demonstrated an irrational dislike of Al Gore and a complete inability to take what the man says at face value or analyze his ideas in a fair or intellectually honest manner.

2. The post-political Al Gore can speak his mind without having to consider polls or packaging; he has successfully articulated his concerns about climate change to a world wide audience and raised awareness of the issue in a way he never could have as president.

3. There are several very good (and electable) candidates already in the race. John Edwards, Barack Obama; these guys would be a lot more progressive than HRH or any of the filth-spewing sock puppets in the GOP; and Edwards or Obama would be very willing to accept Al Gore as a counselor/advisor on the issues he has championed.

So, please, stop trying to draft Gore for the presidential campaign; he's actually serving a far greater purpose and advancing a greater good doing what he's doing; running for president would only cramp his style.

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Who cares?
Posted by: dlueth on Oct 12, 2007 11:44 AM   
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Why are so many people pinning their hopes on Gore? If we want things to change, we have to do it ourselves instead of marching out to the polls every four years to line up behind the latest tool who we've been told will Make A Difference, if only we just elect him/her to office!

....After which we sit around and complain for eight years when that doesn't work out so well.

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Peace?
Posted by: diarmaid on Oct 12, 2007 12:10 PM   
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Americans will vote for Bush, again, as they are so in love with "freedom" and "democracy" which are supposedly protected by Bush and co.

I see no reason at all for Americans to vote for somebody else. As long as this war on terror goes on (what the hell is that anyway? In 1930 Germany started a war against terror too, we know what happened next) people think that it is a good think to keep Marines in Iraq and Afghanistan to protect US homeland. This creates more hostilities, although Bush cabinet is interested in oil. Even a stupid can see that "war on terror", "looking for mwd in Iraq" and "al qaeda in iraq" words are nothing more than lies but I guess they are more blind than stupid.

Like I said, Bush will be reelected (if he chooses to go on and he will) and having supported by millions of stupids, he will run the world for many years.

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Actions speak louder than words...
Posted by: Dallas112263 on Oct 12, 2007 12:11 PM   
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We who seek to convince Al Gore to run for President are not waiting. We are taking action to place his name on ballots, with committed delegate slates and we will go to Denver to seek his nomination. In California we are well organized and we are in the process of collecting signatures, not on straw polls, but on Nominating Petitions, county by county, in order to submit 500 valid signatures of registered California Democrats in each of the 53 Congressional Districts in the State, by Dec 4th 2007. Thank you Dr. Dean for showin' us how...

While I cannot speak for the rest of the State and we are indeed just beginning this effort, bayarea4gore began collecting signatures at Flint Center in Cupertino, where Mr. Gore addressed capacity crowds of 2800 on 10/8, 10/9 and 10/11 as part of the ongoing Celebrity Forum Speakers Series. We fielded volunteers each night and manned a table with banners, buttons and stickers. Over the course of the three nights of appearances by Mr. Gore we collected almost 600 signatures from a number of Bay Area counties. The response from the people in attendance, who sign up for a several months long program which has a years long waiting list and are not exactly a cross section of Progressive Democrats or indeed even Californians, was good on Monday, better on Tuesday and off the charts by Thursday night. We are now prepared and ready with a small army of experienced volunteers to quickly complete the Bay Area counties and reach out to more remote areas to help other groups.

In 2003 Al Gore asked us not to do this, he said he would not be a candidate… He quit shaving and endorsed Dr. Howard Dean, and we listened. He has made no move in 2007 to do this, although we are far more visible and active now than we were in late 2002 and early 2003. If he asks us to cease in this cycle, we will listen and let me assure everyone that we will remain committed progressive Democrats. But as far as I can tell he is shaving everyday, looking great and is by now the most practiced and relaxed stump speaker in America, and he has a message of overwhelming moral imperative.

We are not kids, this ain't our first rodeo and we aren't partial to tiltin' at windmills... We are quite serious and we know where the levers are and how to use 'em... You could ask Richard Pombo, but he is unavailable for comment just now… We believe not only that Al Gore is the best choice to be the 44th President; we believe that what we are doing right now is the most important thing we could be doing, right now, to elect a man of wisdom and stature, a man capable not only of healing the wounds and depredations of the recent years of war, neglect and avarice but also of leading our nation on a sure path to a future where America is always part of the solution, a future where America can be believed and believed in again.

RGJ/Dallas112263
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bayarea4gore/

PS, thank you Mr. Parry for your many years of excellent work…

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Shiv
Posted by: Shiv on Oct 12, 2007 1:33 PM   
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If he runs again I would hope he doesn’t choose an Israeli operative as his sidekick.

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Gore's still a LOSER LOSER LOSER for GAGGING in 2000 and his pathetic record in Washington !
Posted by: maxpayne on Oct 12, 2007 1:43 PM   
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My problem with Al Gore is that I’ve seen this movie before.

Al Gore ran for President in 1988. He ran as a southern conservative, pro-war, pro-military DLC democrat-in-name-only. He lost. Even though the other Southern DLC types had rigged up the first ‘Super Tuesday’ regional primary just for Al Gore, they didn’t count on a coalition of progressives and minorities in the south teaming up to help Jesse Jackson win those primaries that year.

That didn’t make Al Gore not want to be President, but it did cause him to go though one of the periodic ‘reinvent Al Gore’ episodes that are so much a part of his history. The striking part is that it was the environment that he choose then to be the issue about which he reformed his image away from being the voice of the KKK wing of the Democratic Party.

So, I’ve seen this whole cycle before. Al Gore writes a book on the environment. Everyone praises ‘the new Al Gore’. A couple of years later, Bill Clinton picks the new Al Gore to be the Vice President.

The problem is when you look at the record, if you really look at actions instead of words, Al Gore didn’t do squat for the environment while he was sitting there a heartbeat away from being leader of the free world. He was part of an administration that backtracked on campaign promises to block a big polluting power plant in the midwest, and that used WTO and NAFTA to block any advancement on environmental issues, made deals with logging companies to log the old growth forests and who went to Kyoto to destroy any momentum towards a deal with any real limits on emissions (Kyoto finally says 5% cut from 1990. The Europeans were pushing for something like 10% cut from 1990. Al Gore’s job was to negotiate the deal to be weaker, and he pushed for all these carbon trading loopholes that make it worthless).

Al Gore’s political history is that he is a shapeshifter. He’ll be anything to anyone if it means he gets to advance. In his political career he’s been all over the place on the political spectrum including being further right than say where Joe Lieberman is today.

So, sorry, I don’t believe it. I don’t care about ‘the new Al Gore’. 25 years of watching this guy on the political stage tells me that its all BS.

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Gore's still a LOSER LOSER LOSER for GAGGING in 2000 and his pathetic record in Washington !
Posted by: maxpayne on Oct 12, 2007 1:44 PM   
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PS … please note that the entire goal of the Democratic Party is to find a candidate who is just that marginally little bit better than the Republicans. Since their policies are Republican in nature, they want to move as little as possible from the Republicans.

Al Gore is just the latest in this line. Hillary is basically running as Ghouliani with a bra. And that’s not playing well with the public, despite the polls saying she’s leading. Hillary is in the bizarre position of being hated by almost everyone left to right who pays any attention to politics.

So the Democrats are looking for a plan B. Obama’s been auditioning for the role. But I get the impression that it isn’t going so well. After all, what good is a candidate who’s 20 points behind one of the most despised figures in American politics?

Enter Al Gore from stage right. He’s got the phony credentials as an environmentalist from making a movie. And even more bizarrely this somehow is getting him thought of as a progressive even though he’s never had a progressive bone in his body and his political history is to the right of Joe Lieberman.

Thus, the perfect Democratic candidate in the eyes of the leaders of this modern pro-war, pro-corporate party. His positions and history are to the right. He’s always favored bigger military budgets and aggressive military actions. He’s always been a corporations best friend in DC. But bizarrely he’s now regarded as a progressive.

So we see Al Gore trotted out as the savior who’s going to right all that’s wrong. But here’s a prediction. If Al Gore is elected President, most of us will be meeting about two years later to try to talk about how to organize protests against yet another Democrat who is ‘disappointing’ all the progressives who got fooled into supporting him.

In addition, Gore praised the DEA for BOMBIMG a HEMP farm in South Dakota. Hemp is environmentally friendly, is NOT marijuana, has 25000 industrial uses, and can replace petroleum completely. Everyone who is FOOLISHLY thinking that Gore’s a liberal better take a complete look at his DIVORCED FROM REALITY (typical for most pols) voting record for his 24 years in Washington.

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The Corporation Owns Your Country
Posted by: thelostsailor on Oct 12, 2007 1:45 PM   
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No White Knight (or Black Knight for that matter...) is going to be able to scratch the surface of undoing the catastrophic calamaties our government has created. The election is already over, and yep, the corporations won again.

At least Blackwater finally pissed off some people....

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» It is actually the banks . . . Posted by: dustdevil
Draft Gore?
Posted by: dlueth on Oct 12, 2007 3:08 PM   
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When I first heard about "Draft Gore," I thought, Great, it's about time someone tried getting some politicians to serve on the front lines over in Iraq instead of sending our friends and relatives over there. How wonderful to have politicians who don't think twice about sending in the troops actually forced to experience the consequences of their actions firsthand!

Then I found out it was just about trying to get Gore to run for president. How disappointing.

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» Get Your Facts Straight Posted by: sofla100
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» RE: Get Your Facts Straight Posted by: sofla100
The Nobel Prize
Posted by: magistre on Oct 12, 2007 3:50 PM   
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Does Mr. Gore have the Nobel locked away? I just want to make sure the Supreme Court can't step in and "award" it to George W. Bush.

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» RE: The Nobel Prize Posted by: VZEQICVA
gore couldn't even win his home state
Posted by: mr.E on Oct 12, 2007 3:54 PM   
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of tennessee in 2000. if he would have, he would have been president and america might not be going to shit quite so fast as it is with bu$h. the last time a presidential candidate lost his home state was george mcgovern in 1972.

i voted for nader because gore seemed like a typical politician who would say anything to get elected but remained loyal to big business. i'm not sure i buy his claim that he has changed and "divorced politics".

a lot of my friends criticized me for not voting gore but i dont regret it. i wish there were more naders out there to "steal" democratic votes from people who dont deserve them.

i dont know, call me crazy (you wont be the first), but i think not winning tennessee really says something about this guy...

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» The L word Posted by: lotus23
Just A Stupid Question Here
Posted by: bcgirl125 on Oct 12, 2007 4:03 PM   
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How do you embed links in the comments you post? I can do it in Word and Frontpage, but have no luck pasting the result here, and can't seem to do it directly. Would be very useful to know, I'd appreciate somebody telling me how to do it.

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» RE: Just A Stupid Question Here Posted by: Donna_Darko
Sidelines?
Posted by: Sparks56 on Oct 12, 2007 4:48 PM   
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"Now, some of those supporters have resorted to an open letter urging Gore to get off the political sidelines and back into the game."
Al Gore isn't on the sidlines, he's above it all. Politics in America has degenerated into a dog fight. Somebody once said that in a democracy, you get the leaders you deserve. America deserves the current crop of candidates, especially the Republican slate of nothings. (I'm voting for Hillary.)
Gore has achieved elder statesman status without having sat in the office. He can do more good by staying above it all. Let Hillary get down in the trenches; she's got the cajones, and she likes drinking blood.

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Just for fun :)
Posted by: EJW on Oct 12, 2007 4:54 PM   
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Consider - is Al Gore the biblical anti-christ? The picture used by alternet, here, is creepy. It hardly looks like VP Gore at all and the picture of the kid in the background --- eeek.

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A Slap in America's Face: Al Gore (his contemporaries: Gandhi, Mother Teresa, the Dalai Lama)
Posted by: sofla100 on Oct 12, 2007 5:56 PM   
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Well, Al Gore is up their with quite the illuminaries. However, America didn't get Gore, we got Bush instead. We got:

Endless wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Hundreds of billions into the rathole and America not a lick safer. Thousands dead. Thousands more to die.

Refusal by the President (Bush) of legislation to extend health benefits to poor kids. He is worried about the "deficit."

More and more tax breaks for the rich. The top 1% that owns over 20% of America's wealth (source: today's Wall Street Journal).

The nobel peace prize to Al Gore is a slap in the face of America and who she elected President.

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Could we just get one viable candidate that is not CFR.
Posted by: dustdevil on Oct 12, 2007 7:05 PM   
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Hillary and Gore are members of the Council on Foreign Relations. If you don't know what that is, It is an organization that is working for one world government. It controls pretty much everything that goes on in this country including when and where we go to war, and who gets the profits from wars.
Nowhere in our Constitution is there a provision for an organization like this. That is why our Constitution is being shredded. The 3000 or so people who belong to CFR want to rule the world and that leaves the rest of us to be the slaves.
So, if you have wondered who the "shadow government" consists of--do some research on CFR and their offshoot, Trilateral Commission.

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you go gore
Posted by: Missing Piece on Oct 12, 2007 8:19 PM   
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I still think that global warming is just a way to get us all ready for peak oil. Most scientists agree that we will be past the peak by 2012 and wether you cap carbon or just run out of carbon, doesn't matter either way. You think global wariming sucks then you better get ready for peak oil, it will be here in less than five years. If gore wants to help us then he will do the same thing europe has done, build communities that don't use fossil fuels.

Good Luck, build and earth home and go off grid now before the market crashes

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Why would he want to run this mess?
Posted by: Callibrarian on Oct 12, 2007 8:23 PM   
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The Democrats lost in 2000 and 2004 because America was looking for a drinking buddy instead of an intellectual. That was stupid. I mean, when I want something done, I don't pick a drinking buddy. Maybe some of you pick your mechanics, employees and gynecologists from crowds of people doing body shots at your local bar, but I tend to look for at qualifications. Was Gore perfect? Of course not. Was he boring? Aren't we all at one point or another? In the long run, he was better qualified than the other guy. He wasn't as charismatic, but when you read their plans, or lack of them in Bush's case, Gore was out guy. I liked Gore. I didn't see him as a messiah, I saw him as a stepping stone. He wasn't exactly what I wanted, but we could have worked with him and gotten someone even better 8 years later and so on. And in 2000, America was worth running. Our national debt was being paid down. Job creation was above the 200,000 per month needed to provide new worker with employment. We weren't at complete peace, of which we've only had about 20 years worth since this country's creation, but we weren't at out right war either. Now we're really screwed. Everyone hates us. We're at outright war. Our housing market sucks. Millions will get kicked out of their homes in the upcoming years. Health care sucks. Women's rights are going down the tubes. We have a negative savings rate. Some people I know are so broke they've resorted to selling their eggs. Our debt will hit 10 trillion next year. Everything has lead in it. The toys have led. This morning they said my lipstick has lead in it. Tomorrow they'll tell me it's in my raisin bran. Why would Gore want to run this country? We didn't want him to have it in 2000. We called him a sore loser for not wanting to go without a fight, then called him a wimp for not fighting when most of us didn't take to the streets to support him. Now that everything is screwed up we want him. What, do you think he owns a magic wand or a do over button? We can't go back to 2000. If he got into office today people would be ticked because he couldn't magically fix everything. America today must be about as appealing to Gore as a cupcake you wanted before it fell on the ground and was covered with trash.

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jackfruit
Posted by: Jackfruit on Oct 13, 2007 6:58 AM   
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Al Gore finally winning a NOBLE Peace Prize!!! I wonder how Alfred Noble ( inventor of the dynamite) would have felt knowingly that the same Noble Peace prize was given to a famous TERRORIST- Yasser Arafat in the 1990's. And now due to heavy lobbying, Al Gore got the prize...but for what?!
It is the same when Jimmy Carter won a Noble Peace Prize too. Ask the millions of Cambodian souls who perished during the Khmer Rouge( 1975-1979) when Carter was President from 1976-1980. Even the UN could not stop the genocide!!!
Talk about being NOBLE!!!

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Has My Vote
Posted by: apophenia_monkey on Oct 13, 2007 12:40 PM   
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and i'm a registered libertarian--if entered, i'd switch to dem in a heartbeat and cast for both primary and general his way.

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Lack of Critical Thinking
Posted by: shanaza on Oct 13, 2007 7:42 PM   
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For those pleased with the Nobel selection, please understand the original basis for the prize (no, you can look it up). Great peace-makers such as Kissinger, Begin and Arafat have won this prize, while terrorist trouble-makers such as Ghandhi have not. Your partisan-colored glasses make Gore into something he is not - your next Great Hope for a true leader. His record of actions speak louder than words - remember all that he's stood for; what he has done and neglected to do. Also remember the lack of dignity during the film when whining about not winning the election - certainly not appropriate (what personality charactistic does that speak to?). FWIW, I am a very liberal progressive with a slight libertarian bent.

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There's alot of dislike for Gore here, but
Posted by: WhatNow? on Oct 13, 2007 9:56 PM   
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you gotta admit he can give a much better speech than our current fuhrer even if it may be no more honest than the chimps' .

I am glad everybody reminded me of how little I actually like or respect gore. He probably would have been better than bush but that's not saying much.

BTW, what kind of environmentalist condones, endorses, or allows the use of depleted uranium. He's another war criminal like many in the bush I , clinton, and bush II administrations for their use of DU in either Iraq or the former Yugoslavia. Scumbags!

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Enviromental Advocate
Posted by: davescott on Oct 15, 2007 2:00 PM   
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Enough already. Gore aint runnin'. First, he'd be entering a field that Hillary is running away with, and he's behind on fundraising and top staff have been signed up already. Second, if he wanted to run, he's had a year to decide to do that, and hasn't. Third, the Nobel Prize is wonderful, but it translates into roughly 7 votes in Iowa City. Poliitcally it doesnt mean squat. This is just stupid. Go write a real story.

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Nut Jobs on this Listserve
Posted by: davescott on Oct 15, 2007 2:07 PM   
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The "no diffeference between the Rs and Ds" bit astonishes me. Clinton appointed the first conservation biologist to head the Forest Service. Bush appointed a timber lobbyist. Clinton appointed Carol Browner to head EPA. Bush gutted environment laws and put nutcases on the Supreme Court. Some of the people on this listserve apparently live on Mars.

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Gore's Noble Challenge
Posted by: Liger on Oct 17, 2007 5:49 AM   
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by Patrick J. Michaels

Al Gore has finally won his Nobel Prize, reminiscent of the proverbial little nut that stood his ground, evolving into a giant oak. Now we can only hope that he runs for president, an office that, given recent history, surely deserves him.

Where else -- except perhaps via the Kyoto Protocol on global warming, which Gore negotiated -- can someone accomplish so little while spending so much? But, to get there, or at least to the Demo nomination, Gore's going to have to do something he has assiduously avoided: debate.

Gore's standard rule on live TV has been there will be no live challenge. The last time he ran for president (2000), he succeeded de facto, with George "Carbon Bonoxide" Bush as the token global warming flyweight. This time, debates happen.

That's because Gore represents a party gone global warming ga-ga, with some of the world's goofiest environmental legislation in history awaiting a Bush veto and a Gore signature.

Each and every one has a good chance of Senate passage, and an even better chance of a veto. So, now that you have your Nobel, come out and fight like a man, Al, and don't even worry about picking on someone your own size.

The fact is that Al has ducked, feinted, dived away from, or fluffed each and every opportunity for a reasoned debate with any global warming scientist not of his choice, a choice he no longer enjoys. Heartland Institute, a Chicago think tank, spent over a million dollars filing ads in the Wall Street Journal, the New York Times and their ilk, begging Al to debate. No dice. In a less public venue, my own Cato Institute sent kind and courteous letters asking him to share our pretty auditorium on Washington's Massachusetts Avenue, for a civil discussion with our scholars. Again, no dice.

Here's the rub: if any opposition were so easy to vanquish, Gore would relish the opportunity. Obviously there's a substantive and cogent argument he can't kill.

In essence, it is that Gore has massively departed from the scientific mainstream on global warming, even as that community may be itself biased by the funding afforded by emphasizing the negative.

For example, the United Nations' Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (of which I am a member, while Gore is not) predicts a mean sea-level rise of about 13 inches by 2100. Gore's book and movie contain an undated montage showing Florida sliding beneath the waves, something that could only happen with 13 feet or more.

How on earth does one accomplish such a disconnect from scientific reality?

Gore only has one scientist, James Hansen of NASA, whispering the sweet nothings into his ear that sea-level could rise this much or more in the next 92 years, as Greenland's ice sheets are destabilized by climate change.

No other scientist is willing to climb out on this limb, because it is simply not supported by the observed climatic history of Greenland since the end of the last ice age. For much of six millennia, ending 3,000 years ago, it had to be warmer, and yet the ice stuck like glue. Hansen's amazing response, which you can read on his blog, documented at www.realclimate.org (not exactly a peer-reviewed scientific journal!) is that other scientists don't agree with him because they suffer from what he calls "scientific reticence." In other words, all his colleagues are chicken-bleeps because they don't agree with him.

How about the other pole? Every computer model mentioned by the United Nations shows Antarctica gaining ice this century because a slight warming will result in more precipitation which must fall as snow. Would Gore like that out in public? Or how about the fact that Antarctica just set its record maximum for sea-ice extent, as measured by satellite.

American Spectator October 12, 2007

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