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Why Does Everyone Bow Down to the Health Insurance Industry?

By Barbara Ehrenreich, Barbaraehrenreich.com. Posted September 24, 2007.


After facing down the Third Reich, the Japanese Empire, the U.S.S.R., Saddam Hussein, the United States has met an enemy it dares not confront -- the American private health insurance industry.

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Bow your heads and raise the white flags. After facing down the Third Reich, the Japanese Empire, the U.S.S.R., Manuel Noriega and Saddam Hussein, the United States has met an enemy it dares not confront -- the American private health insurance industry.

With the courageous exception of Dennis Kucinich, the Democratic candidates have all rolled out health "reform" plans that represent total, Chamberlain-like, appeasement. Edwards and Obama propose universal health insurance plans that would in no way ease the death grip of Aetna, Unicare, MetLife, and the rest of the evil-doers. Clinton -- why are we not surprised? -- has gone even further, borrowing the Republican idea of actually feeding the private insurers by making it mandatory to buy their product. Will I be arrested if I resist paying $10,000 a year for a private policy laden with killer co-pays and deductibles?

It’s not only the Democratic candidates who are capitulating. The surrender-buzz is everywhere. I heard it from a notable liberal political scientist on a panel in August: We can’t just leap to a single payer system, he said in so many words, because it would be too disruptive, given the size of the private health insurance industry. Then I heard it yesterday from a Chicago woman who leads a nonprofit agency serving the poor: How can we go to a Canadian-style system when the private industry has gotten so “big”?

Yes, it is big. Leighton Ku, at the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities, gave me the figure of $776 billion in expenditures on private health insurance for this year. It’s also a big-time employer, paying what economist Paul Krugman has estimated two to three million people just turn down claims.

This in turn generates ever more employment in doctors’ offices to battle the insurance companies. Dr. Atul Gawande, a practicing physician, wrote in The New Yorker that ''a well-run office can get the insurer's rejection rate down from 30 percent to, say, 15 percent. That’s how a doctor makes money. It's a war with insurance, every step of the way.'' And that’s another thing your insurance premium has to pay for: the ongoing "war" between doctors and insurers.

Note: The private health insurance industry is not big because it relentlessly seeks out new customers. Unlike any other industry, this one grows by rejecting customers. No matter how shabby you look, Cartier, Lexus, or Nordstrom’s will happily take your money. Not Aetna. If you have a prior conviction -- excuse me, a pre-existing condition -- it doesn’t want your business. Private health insurance is only for people who aren’t likely to ever get sick. In fact, why call it “insurance,” which normally embodies the notion of risk-sharing? This is extortion.

Think of the damage. An estimated 18,000 Americans die every year because they can’t afford or can’t qualify for health insurance. That’s the 9/11 carnage multiplied by three -- every year. Not to mention all the people who are stuck in jobs they hate because they don’t dare lose their current insurance.

Saddam Hussein never killed 18,000 Americans or anything close; nor did the U.S.S.R. Yet we faced down those "enemies" with huge patriotic bluster, vast military expenditures, and, in the case of Saddam, armed intervention. So why does the U.S. soil its pants and cower in fear when confronted with the insurance industry?

Here’s a plan: First, locate the major companies. No major intelligence effort will be required, since Google should suffice. Second, estimate their armed strength. No doubt there are legions of security guards involved in protecting the company headquarters from irate consumers, but these should be manageable with a few brigades. Next, consider an air strike, followed by an infantry assault.

And what about the two to three million insurance industry employees whose sole job it is to turn down claims? Well, I have a plan for them: It’s called unemployment. What country in its right mind would pay millions of people to deny other people health care?

I’m not mean, though. If we had the kind of universal, single-payer, health insurance Kucinich is advocating, private health insurance workers would continue to be covered even after they are laid off. As for the health insurance company executives, there should be an adequate job training program for them – perhaps as home health aides.

Fellow citizens, where is the old macho spirit that has sustained us through countless conflicts against enemies both real and imagined? In the case of health care, we have identified the enemy, and the time has come to crush it.

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Barbara Ehrenreich is the author of thirteen books, including the New York Times bestseller Nickel and Dimed. A frequent contributor to the New York Times, Harpers, and the Progressive, she is a contributing writer to Time magazine. She lives in Florida.

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The big difference...
Posted by: chomsky on Sep 24, 2007 12:05 AM   
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As you said, for this battle, our leaders/politicians are not on our side...
That's the big difference!

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» I will be on your side Posted by: soulrebeljc
» Fight or flight Posted by: Cathyc
» RE: Fight or flight Posted by: ssegallmd
» Failed relationships Posted by: Cathyc
» Not only... Posted by: Artkansas
The fight between doctors and insurers.
Posted by: Sojourner on Sep 24, 2007 12:42 AM   
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Some years back I had private insurance that refused to pay the hospital where I had surgery. It was a simple matter of the longer the insurers kept their money, the more valuable it was to them.

I was caught in the middle and continued to telephone the insurance company to follow up their neglect. A clumsy clerk gave me information to reveal that their insistence they had not received my claim form was a lie, since the information he gave me on the phone was only available to him if he had received the form.

Shortly thereafter the hospitals took the insurance company to court and forced a settlement plus penalty. I have no reason to doubt that some similar ploy to lie and cheat happens all the time. Employees lie and cheat customers regularly. That's part of what it means to be a bureaucrat in our mass society: trade in your conscience for a paycheck.

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Bow down and strap on the electrodes: it's time for a little shock therapy
Posted by: eddie torres on Sep 24, 2007 1:24 AM   
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Ehrenreich: "What country in its right mind would pay millions of people to deny other people health care?"

The same country that pays millions of farmers to grow crops along 1930s federal food bureaucracy guidelines.

300 million Americans in a utopian single-payer US healthcare system are suddenly able to quit their miserable underpaid jobs because they no longer fear losing benefits?

Holy crap, Batman. That's what Wall Street calls "a revolution." Let's gently lobotmize that notion straight out of your head...

OJ's back! And now he's even more guilty!

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I couldn't care less what happens to 2-3 soulless insurance industry functionaries.
Posted by: darkenergy on Sep 24, 2007 1:53 AM   
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They could build shanty towns after receiving foreclosure notices. They could look for work at Wal-Mart and other fine box stores. They've been bankrupting people for years by turning down insurance claims that should have been paid by the company.

As a little note:

Think of the damage. An estimated 18,000 Americans die every year because they can’t afford or can’t qualify for health insurance. That’s the 9/11 carnage multiplied by three -- every year.

That's six times as many who died in the 9/11 events.

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Shooting hoops.
Posted by: morningstar1972 on Sep 24, 2007 3:25 AM   
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Actually, I think Hillary is on the right track. I read her reforms yesterday, and I actually like it. I have to say I was skeptical at first, and really scared what she was going to propose, but let's see if I can get it all in a nutshell.
Those with healthcare coverages they like, can keep it. the rest of America without health coverage get the same benefits of congress, and those who wish to switch their coverage to that which congress gets are entitled.
She also has a plan for coverage. it will be working closely to those refund checks we enjoy every year (I don't because I always owe) to ensure every American has proper health coverage.
Even the American Cancer Society is promoting healthcare! I think it is great!
This isn't something to just "blow off" this is going to require some thinking. and, you are going to have to think of others as well, because this concerns all of us.

I was skeptical about all of these "healthcare reforms" but you know what? If I have to work in another hospital that denies service to a child, or an elderly person again, just because some idiot insurer turned them down, I am going to vomit.
sometimes you just need to see it for yourself to believe it!
and, don't put a price on human life. we all deserve to live.
(even those selfish people!)

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» RE: Shooting hoops. Posted by: oregonox
» Doesn't address the waste Posted by: notinKansas
» RE: Shooting hoops. Posted by: Bayardtom
» RE: Shooting hoops. Posted by: Dr. Colvin
» RE: Shooting hoops. Posted by: oldumbo
Follow the money
Posted by: jlohman on Sep 24, 2007 3:43 AM   
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The answer is rather simple. Follow the money!!!

See HillaryCare2.0 is the symptom of a major disease

Hillary is no better than the rest. They all prostitute themselves for campaign money.

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The Authoritarians
Posted by: shangrilalad on Sep 24, 2007 3:42 AM   
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The Authoritarians
Link via Goggle.
By Bob Altemeyer


This is a book based on a psychological study of the authoritarian personality. You can read the whole book online for free, thanks to the author. Authoritarians ignore or attack this book, but the truths presented are self-evident. I found it fascinating.


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» RE: The Authoritarians Posted by: VannaLaRoche
» RE: The Authoritarians Posted by: Urgelt
» RE: Worth a read Posted by: rfrancis@godisdead.com
my friend died on August 23rd, a victim of the health insurance industry
Posted by: Suzon on Sep 24, 2007 4:22 AM   
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It makes the issue very personal. My deepest grief is that she lived with multiple disabilities after a massive heart attack nine years ago, with Big Pharma using her as a cash cow.

My late husband's employer pays an insurer for a policy I will never need as I live in the UK and would simply buy travel insurance with medical coverage should I return for a visit.

I have often thought of telling the employer to drop the insurance but I have the feeling that it would only inspire the company to greater efforts to deny health care to those in genuine need.

Governments have been turning our lives over to corporations for the last 30 or so years. Limit campaign spending by offering candidates two free broadcasts and prohibit all other spending in the year prior to the election.

Then the government might be run with the interests of the public in mind.

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To answer the question "Why Does Everyone Bow Down to the Health Insurance Industry?"
Posted by: ~Fiona~ on Sep 24, 2007 4:56 AM   
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For the same reason people in one-sided relationship bow down, give head, bend over, etc do it... To get what they want... Politicians are the largest group of overpaid prostitutes in the world... THATS why they DO it!

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» Pimps and Prostitutes Posted by: Cathyc
Reform in the long-term maybe
Posted by: cinattra on Sep 24, 2007 5:02 AM   
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I would think that the rest of the business world would loathe the health insurance industry as an expense they would love to get rid. The reason that businesses don't have a problem with health insurance is that they by law they don't have to have it. So when businesses get to a point where the cost of health insurance is too much for them they just dump their plans all together.

Right now health insurance is a recruiting tool. Take that away and now I've got to find other ways to attract top talent. The cost of health insurance is nothing for the top businesses. For those businesses with smaller margins the cost of their services and products will have to go up to cover the added cost especially if they don't offer health insurance now.

In the future if health insurance becomes mandatory for businesses to offer I'm thinking then you may then start to see a true reform. That is an expense to business before the product is even dealt with. That can become a no-no where business competes on a global scale and not with just the guy down the street.

I'm not confident anyone's plan will slow the rising cost of health insurance. Looks like to me with any mandatory approach we are only feeding the fire.

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Why won't liberals vote Kucinich?
Posted by: peacelf on Sep 24, 2007 5:21 AM   
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Come hell or high water, I'm voting for Kucinich or the Green Party candidate because of this one issue that Barbara Eirenrich is correct to spotlight as politicans' greatest fear: health insurance.

First, let's be honest: we don't have a health CARE system; we have a health insurance industry. There is no "care" in health services in america. And, with that many people dying because of health insurance rejections or lack or adequate affordable medical insurance coverage, then we have a crisis that the tyranical majority (who have health insurance) refuse to address.

But, if voting percentages are correct, candidates like Kucinich don't have a chance because, just as our Democratic candidates are weak or afraid to take on the health insurance industry, so are the "liberals" weak and afraid to take on the political party candidates by voting their consciences rather than the lesser of two evils.

Look, I'm not taunting liberals or progressives to get them to vote for Kucinich,but this problem with voting against one's interests has got to be addressed. I have heard liberals themselves explain how the media manipulates our choices, how big business manipulates our choices, how campaign finance manipulates our choices. If we know the rich and powerful are forcing cards on us, why don't liberals pick a different card?

If all the liberals and progressives voted their consciences, rather than the media-manipulated "popular" candidates, then we would make a statement that would reverberate throughout the DNC. They would have to take notice if 1/3 or 1/2 of Dem voters voted for a Kucinich.

It takes great strength of character to vote for a "fringe" candidate, the same strength it took blacks in the civil rights movement, except the only people getting hurt in the struggle are the uninsured. And, they already are hurting. But, they'd hurt less if they thought the party that's supposed to care for them was trying to change things.

peace

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» RE: Why won't liberals vote Kucinich? Posted by: racetoinfinity
» RE: Why won't liberals vote Kucinich? Posted by: nellie blogger
» Circular Reasoning Posted by: pdxstudent
» INTEGRITY ... Posted by: Cathyc
» RE: So peacelf, Posted by: peacelf
Let's see who's bought and paid for
Posted by: MrX on Sep 24, 2007 6:00 AM   
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http://www.michaelmoore.com/sicko/sickos-for-sale
/candidates/

I did a Google search on Ron Paul and Health Care and came up with this http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul339.html

In Sicko Michael Moore explains how Nixon created the HMO system. Ron Paul wants to undo that law from the looks of it.

What's more important is he wants to stop the US from policing the world. Health care is important, but hundreds of thousands of people are dying in Iraq. The US has been involved in one skirmish after the other for the past 50 years. Watch "Why We Fight" We need to try to stop the US Military Industrial Complex.

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» RE: on Paul is not the answer Posted by: rfrancis@godisdead.com
Bottom Feeders
Posted by: fredwahl on Sep 24, 2007 6:04 AM   
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Employees, people who follow orders to deny claims, are no better than thieves, in fact their worse.
A former friend of mine changed careers, she is in the insurance industry, she denies claims and benefits for a living, she has been programed to think of customers as leeches, scum-bags, cheats.
Guess where she got the money to go to school for her new career, a auto collision, large settlement, hasn't seen a Dr. since.
These people have nothing to be afraid of, no personal accountability.
If by some chance some of them were to have an accident they might change there ways.

Names, addresses, and phone numbers published made members of congress afraid and change their vote on immigration.

It's an individual act, what do you have to lose, you lone nuts out there, does your life have any purpose?

How many lives of "leeches" have been ruined so an employee can have a nicer car, a better couch,just following orders.

Fred

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» RE: Bottom Feeders Posted by: bkvwd57
As a doctor...
Posted by: PJAW on Sep 24, 2007 6:17 AM   
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this is a subject that I deal with on a daily basis. I've investigated the mechanics of it fairly extensively and everything that the author says is true, plus more. The average person has no concept whatsoever just how evil this system has become. For example, did you know that insurance companies are specifically exempted from anti-trust laws, in all 50 states?

Several years ago, I devised a plan that I called "managed profits" (as a response to "managed care"). My thought was, develop a large pool of insurance purchasers (via the internet), and negotiate a contract with the insurance industry. I would approach them with a proposal along these lines, "I have x number of subscribers representing y number of premium dollars and we would like to purchase a group insurance plan, but with a set administrative fee and specified broad coverage". Turns out that's illegal. You are not allowed to form a group for the specific purpose of buying insurance.

Yes folks, they've covered all the bases, and they've been working for decades to accomplish this. They, like a few other industries (pharmaceuticals and military contractors to name a couple) have been busy for a long time, buying legislators and creating the legal context in which they will enrich themselves beyond all precedent. They have even developed a totally complicit media through which they disseminate the lie that they care about you and are working diligently in your best interests. And of course this media denigrates and marginalizes any candidate who represents real change. Not necessarily because they personally believe what they are saying, but because they are rewarded for being complicit and punished for speaking the truth (Dan Rather anyone?)

The solution? Independent thought and action by the voters is the best hope short of violence. Are there enough of us to pull it off despite the dumbing down we've been subjected to. We'll see, "Americans" have surprised the world in the past. I'm a Kucinich supporter myself.

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» RE: As a doctor... Posted by: djnoll
» RE: As a doctor... Posted by: photon's feather
» Independent thinking.... Posted by: Cathyc
Not just health insurance all insurance
Posted by: bkvwd57 on Sep 24, 2007 6:33 AM   
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This is not just health insurance that is a raging monster. I have a friend with a son that has a disability. She works in the schoold cafeteria so she doesn't work when he's not in school. Now because she has poor credit her homeowners insurance is being raised even though she has had them for 6 years now and has never been late on a payment, her insurance is escrowed.

The whole insurance industry is is bad. People with poor credit have to pay higher premiums, auto, home etc because they might do something to cause a claim because they need the money. Our politicians have allowed these companies to all insurance companies to decide that poor people don't deserve any breaks for anything. Poor people are bad apparently. My son went to try and get auto insurance on his own and Progressive wanted $1800 for 6 months up front because he had no credit history. This is an 18 year kid just starting out with liability only and a clean driving record.

Another friend had to have a double bypas and she has short term disability insurance but because she didn't have a heart attack before the surgery the insurance company would not pay her claim. What the hell is the insurance for?

I think all insurance is the biggest scam in the US. I have disability insurance on our truck That I paid for every month so if I became disabled it would pay the payments for me. I had a stroke last March and I can't get a Dr. to sign the paperwork for me and the insurance company won't accept my medical records as evidence of disability. So $500 per is not being paid and I have no job now, we are about to lose our truck.

They are all cheats and liars and scam artists and our government lets thm do this.

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» Blame the lawyers Posted by: gellero
From reading Krugman and Dean Baker
Posted by: chaoslegs on Sep 24, 2007 6:53 AM   
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They are very supportive of Edwards plan. The concept is that people can buy into government insurance. Government insurance will compete with the other private plans. Over time, people (and probably employers first) will realize the government plan is cheaper and it will grow while the others dwindle.

It will be government insurance be free market, so take that Cato and Heritage.

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» RE: From reading Krugman and Dean Baker Posted by: oregonscribbler
Undermining the insurance industry
Posted by: tomkara on Sep 24, 2007 6:57 AM   
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Unless the American people surprise us (miracle would be a better word) and vote in a large majority endorsed by groups like MoveOn, there won't be votes for a single payer system. The people keep more than enough retrograde politicians in office. Education (like sending this article to as many people you know, especially your right wing or middle of the road friends and family) may help, but as a political strategy, the current Democratic health care proposals may have some merit. First, get everyone insured. Next, offer them as one option access to government regulated programs like FEHBA and Medicare if they choose. Next, allow (as the doctor above mentions) people to form private insurance pools if they choose and also give incentives to nonprofits. Also, attempt more regulation of the for-profit industry, like forbidding refusal for pre-existing conditions etc. Since for-profits won't be able to compete with non-profits, we should hopefully see people chosing cheaper and better nonprofit options. And eventually we should see the insurance industry collapse. It may even be a better course, because I don't know what liability the nation would bear if we had to give the insurance industry a "buy out" under due process if they were suddenly made illegal. Of course this is only a hopeful scenario. The people have become so deluded lately, I don't know if even modest reform is possible.

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A tough decision that leaves me torn
Posted by: rfrancis@godisdead.com on Sep 24, 2007 7:01 AM   
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On the one hand I think government run healthcare would significantly boost the health of the average American and significantly lower costs.

On the other hand I don't think its right that nurses and doctors would be forced to work for the government with pay stipulated by the government. I believe they should have the right to decide for themselves what they want to charge for their services. As a libertarian, the idea of forcing doctors to work for the government does not sit well with me at all.

John Stossel recently had a piece on 20/20 suggesting that one way healthcare costs could be reduced is if every doctor was required to list their prices for different procedures.

That way everyone would know how much they charged and most would seek out the cheaper doctors thereby encouraging the more expensive doctors to lower their prices in order to compete for business.

Perhaps the government could pay for doctor and nursing education in exchange for those doctors and nurses working in government hospitals and practices.

Perhaps some sort of wholesale discount pricing for all consumer goods could be given to doctors and nurses who work at government hospitals and practices.

I have to think there is some solution available other than forcing by penalty of law, resulting in fines and jail, to encourage doctors and nurses to work for government health facilities rather than private ones.

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» RE: A tough decision that leaves me torn Posted by: rfrancis@godisdead.com
Exactly
Posted by: argyle on Sep 24, 2007 7:20 AM   
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The problem isn't that 47 million Americans don't have health insurance. That's the result of the problem. The problem is that access to health care is a basic right and we treat it as a commodity.

If we decided, as a people, to commonly fund a well-audited professionally run health care system that didn't have to compete to cut costs, yet was overseen by a small army of fervent auditors, we could actually save money. Yes people will be temporarily out of work. But the overall value added to the economy by the decrease in spending (that money doesn't disappear) on inefficient private health care companies would provide an enormous economic stimulus.

The literal Elephant in the room is that not only would a commonly funded non-market driven health care system provide what in any basic definition of ethics has to be a universal human right: It would save us money while allowing us to pay workers that actually provide services to patients better, and instantly flood the market with available capital without inflation.

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» RE: xactly Posted by: DrKen
Hillary, Rudy both whores, one looks better in a dress though..
Posted by: TJ-stars4peace on Sep 24, 2007 7:22 AM   
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All of our main politicians are sold out lying whores..!

The bankers and Insurance companies are thieving corporate fascists..!

We the People..have been betrayed by both parties..!


Hillary, Rudy, who cares they're both lying whores..one does look better in a dress than the other though, but still whores all the same..!



That's a keeper..!

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Wrong Wrong Wrong
Posted by: nikkie on Sep 24, 2007 7:33 AM   
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As long as you remain so completely ignorant about the natural order of the universe and the perfection that is the human body you are doomed to enslave yourself regardless of who the players are.

You want health insurance? Begin educating yourself outside the box that you've allowed yourself to be put in. There is a path that will lead you to your highest and healthiest existence but you won't find it unless you are willing to shed the "beliefs" that you've been taught starting before the age of reason. As with the spiritual, "lest all your flowers die and you are born again you will not enter the kingdom", so it is true also in the physical as both respond to the same “cure.” You must empty the mind for it is full of poison in the form of conditioned belief. You must empty the body for it is full of poison in the form of conditioned response.

Understand that the human body is not the decrepit genetically deficient errant lump of hopeless flesh that increasingly you are being asked to believe. Yet the human race is dying at an exponential rate and indeed it shows all the markers of a species in decline. The easiest way to measure this truth is to rearrange your thinking so that you view your existence through the existence of your host in this universe; the blessed Mother Earth where you are provided an existence bounded by natural laws. Two things happen when you exceed these natural laws; your environment suffers and so does your health. The two are reflections of each other. The axiom is thus “that which is good for the planet is good for you and that which is bad for you is bad for the planet, and visa versa.”

Now look around you and see what is killing the health of the environment and you can easily see what is making you ill. The primary cause of all degenerative conditions of the human species is the over consumption of animal products. Likewise, the single greatest sector contributing to the demise of the environment is the over production of animal products for human consumption. It’s no wonder if you don’t already know both of these facts as they are concealed by those who benefit from a diseased species that has been taught to gorge itself on excess. Think about it and you’ll realize how large the opposition to your health is. It includes agriculture, food production, food service and the entire medical industry for starters.

Have you not been cultured into the very farm animal you consume without regard? Have you not been corralled and fattened, and made lazy and dependent? Have you not been made less adaptable to your environment where you burn easily in the sun and find fault with nature and the human body? Are you not rewarding a medical system for failure instead of success?

There is a way out of this maze but it does not involve any solution provided from the top down, which is only more manipulation. The way out is from the ground up. Get as close to nature as you can. Insist on organic out of PRINCIPLE and you’ll see magjc begin to happen in your life. Ask yourself how an elephant can grow into such a mass of muscle and bone without eating flesh. Ask yourself which course is healthier for the planet and your body: to consume a pound of flesh in one day knowing it took forty pounds of grain to produce, or to consume forty pounds of grain over six months as a staple? Can you see the waste and the excess? Can you see the cost benefit?

There are many cultures outside the corral of disinformation that still practice “backward” methods of sustenance where the incidence of degenerative disease is almost non-existent by comparison. No, it’s not natural for women to get osteoporosis. It’s a disease of women who have been poisoned.

Begin by reading George Oshawa from the beginning and you’ll find yourself unplugging and showered with rays of healing and hope.

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New Mexico Health Security Act
Posted by: soulrebeljc on Sep 24, 2007 7:37 AM   
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Here in New Mexico, we have an opportunity to get private insurance OUT of the health care system once and for all. The Health Security Act, reviewed by Governor Bill Richardson's Health Care Task Force (along with 2 other proposals which keep private pay insurance) was shown to be the most cost effective program, saving New Mexico 300-400 million a year AND everyone is covered. Everyone. Of course Bill Richardson has said that the private insurance companies will have the dominant role in NM health care reform. Look to the money, and we find that Richardson's greatest business sector donors are "Finance, Insurance, and Real Estate" - over twice as much, almost 3 million towards his 2006 Governor's race, as the next largest business sector donor.

Citizens of New Mexico must lobby the state legislature hard so that a small group of democrats such as Jerry Ortiz y Pino and Dede Feldman recognize that We the People want full health care that isn't steered by corporate profits. Private insurance has NO INHERENT RIGHT to play a role in health care, especially given how badly they have screwed things up so far.

I have made health care reform one of the primary platform issues of my campaign for First District Representative in New Mexico. I also support Dennis Kucinich for president and his HONEST and OPEN assessment of the health care system and necessary reforms. Single payer NOW.

Jason Call
www.Call4Democracy.org
Albuquerque, NM

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Vote for Dennis Kucinich
Posted by: mel on Sep 24, 2007 7:39 AM   
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Great article, thank you!
Is there a conspiracy by AARP & corporate news to ignore Dennis Kucinich? Why wasn't he on the PBS/AARP debate about health care since he is the ONLY candidate who has an actual plan? There are more of us than them (Bush's friends).
Some Democrats are selling out but Dennis Kucinich is brave enough and honest enough to stand up to the insurance companies. He'll also get us out of this ridiculous war.

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TAKE THE FIGHT WHERE IT BELONGS
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Sep 24, 2007 7:49 AM   
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With the Insurance cos. Between Edwards and Clinton there's a plan that will work. Too many people forget that there was a time in this country when getting sick was not a federal case and people rich and poor got the care they needed. Medication was affordabel. No it was not the dark ages. The biggest lie is about the "choices' people have. It's the insurance co. that have choices. They are NOT entitled to ongoing double digit profits. They have some respsonsibility to the insured. Thanks, ANNA

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The Power of Guilt
Posted by: Gravitas on Sep 24, 2007 8:08 AM   
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Why does everyone cower in the face of the health care industry? How did the Church get away with sexually abusing children for centuries? The answer is rule by guilt. When someone is effective in making us feel guilty, it can politically and emotionally disable us. Our own shame induced myopia keeps us focused on our "sins" so we are completely blind to the motives of those who would exploit us. In our society, health is a moral issue that racks us with guilt. The media has been so completely successful with its propaganda that ill health is our own fault, we never think of environmental factors. And we don't demand a better system cause we are bringing on our poor health ourselves. This is particularly true with the scapegoating of obesity for almost every major ill there is. But it applies to all lifestyle factors. Sadly, while progressives have recognized many other manipulative tools of oppression, they have taken to heart the morality over health and fitness. As long as health remains equated with guilt, shame, and finger pointing, people will feel too disempowered to fight the system in any meaningful way!

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Perception vs. reality
Posted by: willymack on Sep 24, 2007 8:18 AM   
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Why are insurance and drug companies seemingly invincible? You don't really have to strain the ol' brain cells to answer that one yourself. As with the oil & coal industries, Big Pharma & Big Insurance have most of congress on their payroll. This is minor compared to the war profiteers and the manufactors of war implements and munitions. Congress would rather go through the motions of protecting us from the very scoundrels whose arses they're kissing than actually doing their jobs. It's more profitable that way, and it doesn't take a lot of morals, ethics, and other unprofitable character traits to do what they do. Far too many of us would rather believe that our "leaders" are all sterling characters with our best interests in mind, when in fact, they're greedy lowlifes who should never have been elected in the first place. Money is power in this country. It trumps and negates everything based on honesty, decency, and fair play, and as long as that stays the same, don't expect any knights in shining armor to come to our rescue.

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America's failed Health care Delivery System
Posted by: viswanat on Sep 24, 2007 8:23 AM   
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Our govt. unlike those of democracies in Europe is failing to provide what those countries are to their people because we have lost sight of controls on free enterprise and capitalism. The latter have been allowed to go wild and greed has replaced good sound business ethics.
As for facing down Nazism etc. that cannot compare with solving domestic problems. If there is anything we have been able to do is that we can mount massive wars but that never has solved any problem. Good luck to the people who have to reveive health care and that is all of us.

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More criminal than the Bushes and the Mob together
Posted by: jeffrey7 on Sep 24, 2007 8:28 AM   
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Insurance is a racket. Has been ever since they sold 'comet insurance in the beginning of the 20th century when haley's comet came around. They proved they were even more criminal after 9/11 when they needed the gov't to bail them out of haveing to honor the claims by their insured. They did the same dance aftetr Katrina. Far too many folks got reamed because they had loopholes in their policies they did'nt know existed.
The insurance companies only want themselves in 'good hands'. You pay outragous premiums to get pittance, or worse
be dropped as soon as you file a claim. All the while the insurance company executives ride around in expensive cars
wear $2000 suits,and act like demigods of healthcare.
At the P.O.T. Party we contend to put Fedreal Health insurance in direct compition with them. It works like this....
Everyone would pay $10/month to be on the program, with $3 co-pay for all office calls and perscriptions plus Lab works.
This would cover all aliments,even catastrophic ones. The major support for the program would come from a 40% reduction in defense spending. No person would be refused for perexisting conditions,age or race. Nor would income be a barrier. The homeless could get the same care as everyone else by simply picking up litter for a couple of hours a day.
We'd have cleaner cities and the healthcare system truly would include everyone.
I think we're all pretty sick of having our money stolen by insurance companies for sub-human health treatment,to be forced out of a hospital barely healed up,to be told our insurance won't pay for most of the bills. These companies are criminal!!! Their business model is criminal!! They need to be shut down as racketeers.
So what kind of healthcare system do you want? One that rips you off and forces you to pay more or the one offered by the P.O.T. Party? We are the People Over Tyrants Party and the health insurance is just one aspect of this tyranny.
It's time to think outside the system
Draft Jeffrey7 for Prez '08

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Simple question on health care for all the presidential candidates
Posted by: sausage on Sep 24, 2007 9:03 AM   
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Why is a private bureaucracy (or private insurance company), which is answerable only to its major shareholders, better (or preferable) than a governmental bureaucracy (or single-payer healthcare system), which, if the government is properly functioning, is accountable to the voting public?

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Clinton Sucker-Punch to the Insurance Industry?
Posted by: Urgelt on Sep 24, 2007 9:22 AM   
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Romney himselfpioneered a state plan similar to Hillary-Care. What's his objection to Clinton's approach? Why does he turn purple in the face just thinking about it?

The option to choose state-run health insurance. That scares the bejesus out of Republicans.

State-run policies like Medicare or the VA expend around 3% of premiums on administrative overhead. For the insurance industry it's around 15-30% for most insurers.

If Clinton delivers, private insurers will be required to compete with government insurance programs. With their complicated schemes for wringing profit out of policy-holders