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Petraeus: The Paris Hilton of Generals

By Tom Engelhardt, Tomdispatch.com. Posted September 12, 2007.


Like Hilton, Petraeus is a vain media darling with almost no credibility.

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The former Cockney flower-girl turned elegant-English-speaker Eliza Doolittle caught something of our moment in these lyrics from My Fair Lady: "Oh, words, words, words, I'm so sick of words .... Is that all you blighters can do?"

Of course, all she had to do was be Pygmalion to a self-involved language teacher. We've had to bear with the bloviating of almost every member of Congress, the full-blast PR apparatus of the White House, and two endless days of congressional testimony from General David Petraeus and Ambassador Ryan Crocker, not to speak of the flood of newspaper, radio, and TV stories about all of the above and the bevy of experts who are hustled out to do the horse-race assessments of how the general and ambassador performed, whether they "bought" time for the President, and the like.

And -- count on it -- that's just the beginning. The same cast of characters will be talking, squabbling, spinning, and analyzing stats of every sort for weeks to come -- with a sequel promised next spring.

Everyone knows that's the case, just as everyone has known since mid-summer that we would get to this point and, when we did, that things similar to those said (and written) in the last two days would indeed be said (and written), and that nothing the blighters would say or write would matter a whit, or change the course of events, or the tide of history, even though whole forests might be pulped in the process and it would be springtime for hyperbole and breathless overstatement in the world of news.

There has been a drumbeat of growing excitement in the press, preparing us for "pivotal reports," a "pivotal hearing," "highly anticipated appearances," and "long-awaited testimony," or, as both the Washington Post on its front page and ABC World News in a lead report put it, "the most anticipated congressional testimony by a general since the Vietnam War."

Petraeus himself has been treated in the media as a celebrity, somewhere between a conquering Caesar and the Paris Hilton of generals.

Nothing he does has been too unimportant to record, not just the size of his entourage as he arrived from Baghdad, or the suite he was assigned at the Pentagon, or even his "recon" walk through the room in the House of Representatives where he would testify Monday, but every detail. Somehow, when he refused to give interviews before his "long-awaited" appearance, lots of Petraeus-iana slipped out anyway:

[H]e also has taken short breaks for walks with his wife.... for dinner with their daughter, who lives in the area, and for lunch with his wife's parents. On his daily jogging route he maintains a brisk, steady pace over a seven-mile route, snaking from Fort Myer, across the Potomac and through Georgetown ...
Sigh...

So who, exactly, was so eagerly awaiting the jogging general's testimony? If a recent Washington Post-ABC News poll is any indication, a majority of Americans weren't among that crowd. They had already discounted whatever he would say -- I doubt the ambassador even registered -- as "exaggerated" and "a rosier view" than reality dictated before his face and that chest full of ribbons hit the TV screens. ("Just 23 percent of Democrats and 39 percent of independents expected an honest depiction of conditions in Iraq.")

This was simple good sense. What exactly could anyone outside of Washington have expected the general -- who had a hand in creating the President's "surge" strategy, is now in charge of the "surge" campaign, and for months has been delegated the official administration front man for what was, from day one, labeled a "progress report" -- to say? An instant online headline caught the mood of the Petraeus moment while his first round of testimony was still underway: "Gen. Petraeus Sees Iraq Progress." Ah, yes ...

And what in the world could anyone have eagerly anticipated from our unbudgeable President? Just what occurred. And yet, in our media, and inside Washington, the drumbeat for "an anticipated moment of truth" continued, as if something were actually at stake.

Take just one example. On Sunday, the Washington Post had a hard-breathing piece by no less than six of its best journalists, with the headline, "Among Top Officials, 'Surge' Has Sparked Dissent, Infighting."

It focused on a reported "clash" between Gen. Petraeus and his theoretical boss, Centcom Commander Adm. William J. Fallon. It seems that the two fell into a near end-of-the-world-style struggle because Fallon had begun "developing plans to redefine the U.S. mission and radically draw down troops." ("'Bad relations?' said a senior civilian official with a laugh. 'That's the understatement of the century .... If you think Armageddon was a riot, that's one way of looking at it.'")

Naturally, Petraeus, like the President, wanted to continue to surge full strength (as we now know -- not that we didn't before -- from his slow-as-molasses plan to drawdown American forces). But what did that radical Fallon have in mind that led to a "schism"? According to a source who spoke to a Post reporter, it "involved slashing U.S. combat forces in Iraq by three-quarters by 2010." Imagine a Centcom commander as a force slasher!

But hold on a moment. Combat forces make up, at best, less than half of all U.S. forces in Iraq; so if, by 2010, the good admiral wants only three-quarters of those combat troops withdrawn, then we're still left with at least 80,000 or more troops in that country three years from now.

Well, I'm with Eliza D -- and so, evidently, was the technology of the House hearing room in which the general and the ambassador appeared on Monday. After chairman of the House Armed Services Committee Ike Skelton (D-MO) and various other Congressional representatives introduced the hearings for what seemed like hours, the general was finally given the floor for his "long-awaited" testimony.

His mouth began to move but in a resounding silence. The mike had failed and (except for Code Pink protesters rising from the audience to shout and be escorted out) the room fell into just about the only Iraqi silence of these past, "eagerly anticipated" months -- and what a relief that was. While Skelton fumed, the announcer on MSNBC suggested, "The commander of U.S. forces in Iraq is apparently powerless over the sound system in the hearing room."

It was a moment that had Iraq written all over it. After all, has anything worked as planned or dreamed since March 2003?

Of course, fifteen minutes later the mike had been replaced (though the room lights then proceeded to flicker as if in distant communion with electricity-less Baghdad) -- in Iraq, you suspect, people would have just started shouting -- and the general did finally launch on his monotonal, mind-numbing, expectably boiler-plate testimony. He promised that, if all went well, American troops would be back to pre-surge levels by mid-July 2008, ten months from now, 18 months from that plan's beginning. "Progress" indeed.

The general's testimony would be dealt with in the tones of gravitas that journalists-cum-pundits and pundits-cum-pundits reserve for moments like this. Yet, given the original expectations of the Bush administration, some of the testimony Petraeus (and later Crocker) had to offer would have been little short of hilarious if the subject weren't so grim. (Good news! Four years after the invasion of Iraq, we finally have the former Baathists of al-Anbar Province, whom our President used to refer to as "dead-enders," on our side! Even better, we're arming them and all is going swimmingly!)

Buying a precious extra six-plus months for the White House, the general also suggested that it would be premature to think beyond next July, when it came to "drawdown" plans, and that we should, instead, all reconvene in mid-March 2008 for more of the same.

Sigh ...

You can, of course, already begin writing the script for that "eagerly anticipated," "long awaited," "pivotal" moment when the situation in Iraq will be predictably worse, predictably more precarious, and predictably surprising to the general and the ambassador.

As aids for his testimony, Petraeus had brought along a profusion of enormous, multicolored charts to illustrate his points. Many of them -- amazingly enough -- seemed to have more or less the same blue, red, or yellow lines, each of which crested about chart middle and then essentially nosedived toward the present moment.

The message was clear: Good news on the numbers! Everything's falling! You didn't need an expert -- you essentially didn't need to know a thing -- to find the confluence of those descending lines with the general's appearance in Washington a tad tidy.

As for me, I found it hard to believe that those charts hadn't been recycled from the Vietnam era, when Petraeus' equivalent, General William Westmoreland, used similar brightly colored, bar-coded, son-et-lumière aids to wow visiting congressional delegations with the metrics of "progress" in his war.

Now, once again, we're knee deep in the Big Metric, flooded with so many different kinds of stats that you can hardly tell one from another (though most involve dead bodies). If you remember the Vietnam era, there's a simple rule here: When the top brass hauls out the pretty charts, duck ...

In the meantime -- mind you, this is Iraq where nothing has been orderly -- everything was, we were assured, to proceed in an orderly fashion, summed up in the general's wonderfully tidy, if somewhat Orwellian-sounding formula, "from leading to partnering to overwatch."

Hmmm ... "overwatch." I wonder who first woke up in a sweat in the middle of the night with that lovely term on the brain? I wonder what it even means? I wonder where we'll be "overwatching" from?

Perhaps from that monstrous embassy that we've almost completed in Baghdad, the largest on this or any other planet, or from our vast permanent-seeming base towns like the one with the 17-mile security perimeter that the President visited in Iraq's western desert, but that no reporter accompanying him even thought to describe for us. (Oh, back in November 2006, that base, as a British reporter described it, already had the requisite Subway and pizza outlets, a football field, a Hertz rent-a-car office, a swimming pool, a movie theater showing the latest flicks, and two bus routes.)

Like Eliza, I'm for skipping the words at this point. After all, what does all the talk mean if, in September 2007, the U.S. is building yet another base in Iraq, this time near the Iranian border, as the Wall Street Journal reported on Monday. The military describes it as a "life support area" -- don't ask me what that means -- with this added definition: "[It's] not really permanent, although it will be manned 24/7 and will be used for as long as necessary."

What does all the talk mean if, as the Washington Post's indefatigable Walter Pincus noted, also on Monday, the U.S. Commerce Department is looking for a new legal adviser for Iraq with a contract running through July 31, 2008, plus two possible 12-month extensions. (There we are in 2010 again!)

This adviser is to help the poor, ignorant Iraqis as "they draft the laws and regulations that will govern Iraq's oil and gas sector." After all, as the proposal makes clear, the Commerce Department (U.S., not Iraqi) "will be providing technical assistance to Iraq to create a legal and tax environment conducive to domestic and foreign investment in Iraq's key economic sectors, starting with the mineral resources sector." And "conducive" is just such a nice word! Even nicer than "sovereignty."

What do the words mean, if the far edge of Armageddon, as defined in Washington or in military-insider politics, leaves enough American troops in Iraq to fill a couple of baseball stadiums -- or several gigantic bases -- in 2010?

At some level, the situation seems remarkably uncomplicated, if you skip the words (and the words about the words). As has always been true, the top figures of the Bush administration remain completely unmoved by, and unmovable by, words which, as is well known, are only meant to move other people; the Republicans in Congress -- after all this time, despite all the dismal polling figures -- are still on bended knee to the Bush administration, so powerless that they feel incapable of striking off on their own. (Senator John Warner, R-VA, who isn't even seeking reelection, recently begged the President to please, please, pretty please, send home a few thousand troops, any troops at all, and call it a day. And, in his testimony, General Petraeus threw the Senator a carefully gnawed bone, agreeing to do just that.)

The Congressional Democrats are too weak (and divided) to change policy -- and let's be honest, even if they did, this administration would undoubtedly pay no attention whatsoever to anything they mandated. The Republican candidates for President (minus the maverick Ron Paul, who isn't really a Republican at all) have bowed down low before presidential Iraq policy, as if before a pagan idol in the desert, in search of the "base vote."

Democratic candidates for President (Bill Richardson and Denis Kucinich excepted) are running "tough" (which means running scared and cautious) on Iraq. If, in 2008, the war actually proves good for business at the polls for Democrats, then, to their consternation, they'll find they've just inherited a disastrous war, that they're likely to be blamed for losing it, and that they're in charge of Hell, not the Oval Office or Congress. (And note that, out of kindness to all of you, I'm not even mentioning Iran ... though there was that nice, giant block of type over Iranian territory on a Petraeus-displayed map labeled "Major Threats to Iraq" that said: "Lethal Aid, Training, Funding.")

Given this line-up of forces, how could it have been anything but "words, words, words" in Washington, even while it was death, death, death in Iraq?

What those words do, however, is fill all available space, reinforcing a powerful sense that Washington's importance in the scheme of things is the one unquestionable reality on our planet. The rest of the world hardly registers, except in the mode of frustration.

Is there a single ounce of humility anywhere in Washington? Can we even imagine that, somewhere on Earth, someone doesn't think about us?

General Petraeus, always identified as having "earned a Ph.D. in international relations from Princeton University as a young officer," is said to be a man with a high regard for his own reputation. Hasn't he noticed, then, that, for one extra star and his Warholian 15 minutes of fame, he's made himself this country's fourth commander of American forces in Iraq in less than five years?

Each of those commanders had a plan. Each was confident. Each claimed "progress." And, once upon a time, each was embraced by the President as the man to give him "advice." Ambassador Crocker is similarly the fourth American civilian viceroy to head up our caliphate of Baghdad. He now has "carte blanche" there. But carte blanche to do what?

Could these men really believe that, with them, the occupation of a crucial country in the embattled oil heartlands of the planet would finally head down the IED-pocked path of success? Is the vanity of American officials as great as that? Was it really worth turning so many Iraqis into red and blue lines, into military metrics?

To grasp the Petraeus moment, you really have to re-imagine official Washington as a set of drunks behind the wheels of so many SUVs tearing down a well-populated city avenue -- and all of them are on their cell phones. They hardly notice the bodies bouncing off the fenders. For them, the world is Washington-centered; all interests that matter are American ones. Nothing else exists, not really. Think of this as a form of imperial autism and the Petraeus moment as the way in which the White House and official Washington have, for a brief time, blotted out the world.

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Tom Engelhardt, editor of Tomdispatch.com, is co-founder of the American Empire Project and author of The End of Victory Culture.

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That would be Galatea
Posted by: Derek Maddox on Sep 12, 2007 3:11 AM   
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Eliza Doolitle was Galatea to Henry Higgins' Pygmalion. If you're going to toss classical references into your screed in order to sound erudite, you really ought to check them first.

The subtitle on your article asserts that Gen. Petraeus has no credibility. I read through the piece looking for evidence to back up that assertion, and found none. Not one single fact was presented to refute any of the general's claims.

What a useless piece of writing.

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» RE: That would be Galatea Posted by: AlterGWBego
» now who's being naive Posted by: KaptainSpiffy
» RE: That would be Galatea Posted by: Trixie
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» RE: That would be Galatea Posted by: the islander
» RE: That would be erudite, all right Posted by: Ydotheyhateus
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» RE: That would be Galatea Posted by: SatanicJamboree
can't disagree
Posted by: frederick on Sep 12, 2007 3:48 AM   
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It's not only a useless piece of writing, it's off the mark and deliberately insulting to the men who are giving so much of their lives to improve the lives of Iraqi people and represent U.S. interests in the middle-East. Gen. Petraeus did not order the military to undertake the missions; he is executing missions set by Congress and the president. The presentations he and Amb. Crocker provided were refreshing news stories of what is going on in Iraq, something our media outlets are delinquent in and loathe to provide us. Why is that? Thanks to Gen. Petraeus, we received a little inside look at the extensive efforts going on in Iraq to help these people find their footing. Wow, do I pity them having to put up with all the mean-spirited hostility of candidates for future political offices, whose hostility is really only for show. Thank you Gen. Petraeus and Amb. Crocker, for the glimpses into the real world.

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Petraeus had a political brief
Posted by: robchapman on Sep 12, 2007 3:59 AM   
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An intellectually honest reader would concur with the article's title regarding Petraeus' capibility.

He massaged the data by measuring only the last twelve weeks, a period short enough to have put on a sustained effort to improve his numbers.

He achieved the lower attack numbers by surrendering to the Insurgents. There have been numerous reports, such as the C-span documentary series with the seventh calvary which show that the Insurgents have been re-designated "Freedom Fighters," armed, paid and trained by Americans.

Company grade American officers have been shown on TV and their voices played on the radio in which they have told the audience that the Frredom Fighter of today is a guy they were fighting two months ago.

Finally, the GOP and their Christian Right hangers on have used the results of the surge surrender to exhort oublic opinion for an attack on Iran.

Petraeus was sent to Iraq to support a political mission, the surge, and in doing so has reconstituted the Sunni Insurgency and fatally undermined the Iraqi national government.

Petraeus has set the stage and provided the weaponry for a major escatlation of violence in the Iraqi civil war.

In switching our support from the Iraqi National Government to the Sunni Tribal leaders he has reconstituted the strength of the Saddam regime.

This has weakened the credibility of pro-American elements in the Shi'ite community and will redound by increasing the influence of Iran.

Petraeus, in adopting a tactical approach whose sole purpose was to disengage American troops and lower the number of clashes with Sunni insureents has basically destroyed any chance of a peaceful Iraq for many. many years to come.

The Surge and Petraeus' strategy is merely the latest example of American FUBAR operating in Iraq.

Robert Chapman
Lansing, NY

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oh that lucy and ethel! what will they get themselves into next!
Posted by: KaptainSpiffy on Sep 12, 2007 4:37 AM   
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or: don't even say iran

trying to bring any level of credibility to this wrong, pre-emptive war cannot happen, no matter how much 'splainin' you do. in the interests of america? hardly. the war profiteering that is going on is setting stage for a new world order; the collapse of economies to get us there is soon upon us. the concentration/relocation camps are built/being built. the american people are tuned in to youtube, turned on by brittany lohan and tupacs o'sugar and have dropped out of high school.

*lucy starts war*

*conveyor belt of casulties begins to escalate*

*lucy hides casulties by devouring them and hiding them behind the cloak of her blouse*

*audience laughter and applause*

*cut to commercial*

ah, i do love the classics!

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Oh Dear what can the matter be!
Posted by: madaluk on Sep 12, 2007 4:49 AM   
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I say it is us the people pf America! get off you duffs and start making noise like we want this to end.. and send message to washington that next election will be
( NONE OF THE ABOVE)

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Mission re-accomplished
Posted by: hquain on Sep 12, 2007 5:17 AM   
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As absurd as the P&C show was, the truly important indicator was its flatness and lack of impact.

Scare us once, yes, and bunch of times thereafter, but at a certain point people settle into an attitude and just stop paying attention.

Even the timorous MSM has basically dismissed the operation. Look broadly at the editorial columns and narrowly at the front-page articles in the Post and the Times which eviscerated both the numerical choices and the rationale for focusing on them rather than on the structural factors (like population shift and loss) that are actually determining the outcome.

Time for the opposition to grasp that the political game is over for Cheney-Bush. They are still immensely dangerous, but (outside of the cult following) the spell is broken. A cooler, more confident tone should follow.

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» RE: Mission re-accomplished Posted by: ALANHESTER
The "Words, Words, Words" of Warmongers
Posted by: Roy Eidelson on Sep 12, 2007 5:26 AM   
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There was little doubt that General Petraeus would promote the White House’s warmongering agenda in his testimony. Somewhat less certain is how members of Congress will now respond to it. From a psychological perspective, "words, words, words" matter--and warmongering often “works” because we fail to confront it with cogent and uncompromising counter-arguments. Such resistance is especially difficult when the warmongers target our core concerns about personal and collective vulnerability, injustice, distrust, superiority, and helplessness. I apply this analysis to the Bush administration’s war in Iraq—and its possible plans for an attack on Iran—in a 10-minute online video entitled “Resisting the Drums of War.” The video examines ten warmongering appeals and counterarguments against them. It’s available for viewing HERE.

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staged non report
Posted by: wleming on Sep 12, 2007 6:22 AM   
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the Iraq situation now shapes up as the military disaster of all time, according to senior military officials, many of them retired. We were lied into Iraq, as we were into Nam, with the same result> . Please note that Congress simply lied down when
the Iraq whitewash was reviewed by General P--- this was a show piece, and even the press should report that... they did not.

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ECLECTICIST, S JIM RODRIGUEZ
Posted by: SJR505 on Sep 12, 2007 6:35 AM   
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GREAT DOG AND PONY SHOW BY BOTH GEN "BETRAY-US' AND AMB-ASS-A-DOR "FULL OF CROC" CROCKER...

FULL OF GENERALITIES AND HIGH LEVLE 'TURD BLOSSOM " RHETORIC, AND WAS GLAD I WAS WEARING MY BOOTS BECAUSE IT GOT PRETTY HIGH...IT GAVE THE TRANSPLANTED NEW HAVEN, CT TO TEXAS PERSON MORE ROOM TO WHEEL AND DEAL...

FOR ANY BREATHING AMERICAN, GEN BETRYAL WAS NOT THE PANACEA TO FIX THE IRAQI CACA...HE WAS A FAILURE FROM HIS TRAINING ROLE FROM JUN 2004 TO SEP 2006 OF IRAQI TROOPS, POLICEMEN, SO HIRE/SELECT ANOTHER POLITICAL BELTWAY GENERAL TOP PUSH THE BUSH AGENDA...HE HAS DONE THAT...AND THE BEAT GOES ON...

REMEMBER :
“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." -Samuel Adams

I know no class of my fellowmen, however just, enlightened, and humane, which can be wisely and safely trusted absolutely with the liberties of any other class.- Frederick Douglas

The ones to trust are the ones who give not just their money,prayers, counsel, and support, but their person(s) who give their lives for their family,neighbor, and country. S Jim Rodriguez-Eclecticist Spirit Seeker

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As the Empire declines
Posted by: Ydotheyhateus on Sep 12, 2007 6:49 AM   
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Corporate sponsored US government is not going to change Iraq policy 'cause corporations are making record profits.

The only consolation is that the Empire is slowly but surely dying while dumb amerikans are kept entertained by bread & circus.

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"GENERAL" BETRAY US is nothing more than a NEOCON yesman.
Posted by: maxpayne on Sep 12, 2007 8:19 AM   
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Too bad that motherfucker won't be getting JAIL time. Frankly though, he too deserves the DEATH PENALTY for allowing our troops to get SHITTED on by the motherfuckers in Congress and the White House. By the way, any minute now, "Grandma" Pelosi will be getting ready to go to bed with "General" BETRAY US and find new ways to keep BETRAYING or allowing the betrayal of the Democratic Party and our country. Sorry to be this pissed off but what else is there to say ?!?!?

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THERE REALLY IS NO PLAN
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Sep 12, 2007 8:25 AM   
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It's odd that there's are always plans to keep the US in Iraq. They don't work and generals come and go and things change but nothing gets better. But no time is spent on how to leave. That idea always guarantees failure. Seems to me that aside from dead bodies nothing has been gained. Millions are no longer in their homes. This is someone's idea of success. Pease, I know about the oil. It's time for a serious exit strategy. They'll help us pack. Thanks, ANNA

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MizBurns
Posted by: Trixie on Sep 12, 2007 9:05 AM   
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You beat me to it! I was just about to make the same correction. I also have a problem with those who inveigh against accommodating Mexican immigrants by providing information in Spanish yet have so little command of their native tongue that they routinely butcher it. Because I think poetry is the most efficient way to get a point across succinctly, here's my rhymed philosophy on the subject:

Novel Idea
If English is made the official tongue
as demagogues now clamor,
will they themselves begin to observe
the standard rules of grammar?

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Cheap Plays on Words For Those Who Serve? Trashy...
Posted by: bloominblacksheep on Sep 12, 2007 9:35 AM   
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Would it have been different if the General were coming back from Afghanistan? I suppose so, because that was not the War we were led and "lied" into, the worst blunder of modern times that has sapped the lives of coming up on 4000 of our citizens and uncounted thousands of Iraquis.

Why are you calling General P. a "betrayer"? He is an Army Officer with an excellent record, who signed up for 30 years--this is his job, his "duty". The military in the United States has always served at the pleasure of the Commander in Chief, although they also have to appear before Congress (the Armed Services Committe, the Appropriations Committees, etc.) This keeps us from becoming a "banana republic" with frequent military coups and dictators (supposedly--although I have long wondered with this current Administration.)

Anyway, General Petraeus and Ambassador Crocker are doing their best to serve in the midst of a terrible mess not of their own making, in a dangerous area where they are "targets" just as much as anyone. (Maybe they should have resigned for reasons of conscience? Maybe the entire military should just "go on strike"? Is that what some of you seem to want? Not bloody likely!)

Why don't those few of you stop trashing honorable guys who are not ALLOWED to "speak their own minds" (by law, ignorant people) until they retire, and put the blame where it belongs, at the feet of our totally incompetent President, and call for his IMPEACHMENT-----and the lying V.P., as well.
These are the people who had Iraq as "agenda" well before 9/11. They lied to the Nation. THEY are at fault, not military people who, unfortunately, have few options other than to carry out the orders of Congress and the President of the United States

The unfortunate thing is this: when costly misadventures like this Iraq War take place, people become skeptical and reluctant to take part in even urgent military operations, so George W. Bush has done his Country a tremendous disservice for years to come. I truly hope in the future, "Ex-President Bush" and "Vice P. Cheney" are treated with the slight disdain and faint lack of respect they deserve.

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patriot76
Posted by: Patriot76 on Sep 12, 2007 9:47 AM   
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Here's a photograph of Bushboy giving Lackey Petraeus his new orders: http://wwwthepartyofthewidestance.blogspot.com/

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No Integrity Left in America's Army
Posted by: sofla100 on Sep 12, 2007 10:21 AM   
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When Generals tell the truth, they are given the General Shenseki Treatment (shown the door). That was an object lesson for all of them. Just like the WMD's, Iraqi success is being spun by America's President.

Frankly, nobody today in the US Army above the rank of Colonel is allowed to have integrity. They are just politicians. And, even most of the Colonels' today are politicians as well. Promotions are completely determined by whose butt you kiss and you better not tell the truth, that is for sure. The few who do are shown the door usually by the time they are Army Captains. Shenseki was an exception, but they are few and far between. That is how it is.

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Show Me
Posted by: Tom Degan on Sep 12, 2007 10:45 AM   
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Never do I ever want to hear another word,
There isn't one I haven't heard.
Hear we are together in what ought to be a dream
Say one more word and I'll scream!

Please don't implore, beg or beseech,
Don't make a speach...
Show me....

Lerner and Lowe

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» RE: Show Me Posted by: mountainsrock
Just words
Posted by: LeeAnnG on Sep 12, 2007 11:06 AM   
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Wasn't it Jesus who said "Blessed are the warmongers, for they shall know the kingdom of Imperialism," "Blessed are the weapons makers, for they shall inherit all the money of the earth," and "Blessed are the chickenhawks, for they shall reap the benefits of other people's sacrifices"?

Oops. Maybe not.

To the so-called Christian right, Jesus' Sermon on the Mount was apparently "just words" too. Words can be powerful when used well, but when the meanings of words become Orwellian - "war is peace," "blue skies means more pollution," "healthy forests means cutting down more trees," and only people shot in the back of the head are civilian casualties, we need to sit up and take notice.

The warmongers and chickenhawks have twisted every single aspect of the Iraq invasion and occupation to fit their view. When violence increased, it was because we were winning, and the insurgents were getting scared of us, but if the violence decreases, it's also because we are winning and they are scared of us. Amazing.

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» RE: Just words Posted by: leafsong1
Thom~Joplin
Posted by: Thom41 on Sep 12, 2007 11:42 AM   
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Does anyone remember Howdy Dowdy?.....a perfect example of Pretreaus......Bush was pulling the strings on this asshole....probably threatened him with his retirement!....

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» RE: Thom~Joplin Posted by: VZEQICVA
A Butt ugly one!!!!
Posted by: jeffrey7 on Sep 12, 2007 2:58 PM   
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His dog is ugly,his sex tape was dull and short, he shot it in daylight. And the result is the same. WE'VE BEEN FUCKED AGAIN!!!!
Draft Jeffrey7 for Prez

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Like Colin Powell LIED at the UN to get us INTO Iraq BETRAY US is LYING to keep us there for years
Posted by: lrrysgl on Sep 12, 2007 7:33 PM   
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Just like Colin Powell’s lies at the United Nation were intended to get us into us into an illegal war of aggression in Iraq, General BETRAY US lied to Congress in order to keep us in Iraq for years.

Intelligence analysts who computed "aggregate levels of violence against civilians" for the recent National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) "puzzled over how the military designated attacks as combat, sectarian or criminal." "If a bullet went through the back of the head, it's sectarian," said one senior intelligence official. "If it went through the front, it's criminal." The Pentagon's sectarian violence numbers also exclude Sunni on Sunni violence, Shiite on Shiite violence, and car bombs.

No independent assessment has concluded that violence in Iraq is down. And a recent assessment by the nonpartisan Government Accountability Office found no decline in the average number of daily attacks.

According to a massive new ABC/BBC poll, every single Iraqi polled in Baghdad, the primary target of the "surge," said it had made security worse. Iraqis themselves overwhelmingly think the situation in Iraq is deteriorating, in terms of security, political cooperation, the economy, and other measures. Overall, 70% think the escalation worsened rather than improved security conditions.

One of the reasons they're using BETRAY US as their propaganda POODLE is because opinion polls show the public (STUPIDLY) trusts the military more than Bush or the government. LIKE GENERAL WESTMORELAND WASN'T LYING THROUGH HIS TEETH IN VIETNAM???? How many years of THAT crap did we have to go through before we woke up???

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As usual, the right wing clowns don't get it
Posted by: ReallyBearish on Sep 12, 2007 10:36 PM   
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The only "fact" that counts in this silly political theater is how long this conflict is going to last. The general thinks we'll still be there a year from now. We can't afford to be there for one more year.

Have any of you right-wing morons taken a look at the dollar index? It just fell off a cliff. Falling dollar, rising gold, 80 dollar oil, trouble in the commercial paper market etc. are the vultures circling.

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Still Living With Rummy
Posted by: NoPCZone on Sep 13, 2007 1:08 AM   
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During his tenure at DoD Rummy took extraordinary interest and got very involved with the promotion process for Flag (General/Admiral) officers. Those who didn't drink the Kool-Aid or go along got passed over for promotion. Otherwise , the yes men got ahead while the independent thinkers and dissenters were passed over or forced to retire. It was out of this process that General Betray-US got ahead.

The bulk of the senior officer corps in all services advanced at the selection of Rummy and his minions and we are largely left with wing-nuts and careerists. When the Army and Marine Corps are rebuilt after the fiasco in Iraq concludes we need to start out by purging these people from the ranks.

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Gen Petraeus and Iraqi war
Posted by: secret33.com on Sep 13, 2007 1:33 AM   
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Gen Petraeus should be given the chance to do his job

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Surge Hasn't Succeeded, nor Has it Failed
Posted by: LessThanExpert on Sep 13, 2007 5:42 AM   
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The "Surge" strategy was mistaken from the start, but that doesn't mean that it has contributed to the security situation in Iraq. Unfortunately, the Iraqi leadership was unable to move forward on political process, but Tom Englehardt's criticism is unwarranted.

Anyone who thinks that Amb. Crocker and Gen. Patraeus's report to Congress was designed to put a happy face on the situation in Iraq obviously made up their minds beforehand about how to respond. The report was sober, both Gen. Patraeus and Gen. Crocker pointed out that the main area in which progress needed to occur, reconciliation, has seen little progress. General Patraeus acknowledged as much in his letter to the troops prior to his statement to Congress.

Almost every military expert believes that the progress in Anbar province is real and significant. The comment that the Anbar Awakening troops are "armed and trained" by the U.S. and are "yesterday's enemies" is silly! When yesterday's enemies become your allies, that's a good thing. However, American commanders are realistic about this development. (1) it does not solve problems at the center, in fact it arguably weakens the center further, (2) the Anbar Awakening leaders are clearly unfriendly toward the national government and whether A.A. can be translated to the national level is open to question.

The Surge profile took only 12 weeks because that's how long the Surge was. Crocker and Patraeus are picking up from Zalmay Khalilzad's failed attempt to build a Unity Government, which went into sectarian chaos at the beginning of 2007.

It is outside Patraeus' brief to answer questiosn about the broader war on terror, and the relationship between Iraq and the broader war is uncertain because that's the nature of war.

The reason why the Left and the Anti-War movement has so little credibility is because, like the Bushies, they seem to occupy a different world than the rest of us. Why are you guys playing the man and not the ball?

Russ Feingold says "I don't think this is contributing the broader war on terror, and we need to sort our our objectives," and the Anti-War Movement adds "yeah, and Petraeus is a jerk!" Then everyone goes off and writes essays about whether the essential badness of teh American people, government repression, or media concentration is to blame for why the American public isn't involved in the Anti-War Movement? Give me a break!

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Where is the general's gravitas?
Posted by: Democritus on Sep 13, 2007 5:48 AM   
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General Petraeus was lauded for months as the man whom the President trusted to deliver victory from the ashes of defeat in Iraq. Where did Mr. Bush find reason to so place his trust? Petraeus is not a true combat officer, having served mainly in administrative posts. His main claims to fame before his most recent promotion was to have been wounded by friendly fire and to have almost killed himself in a parachute jump. Petraeus is a political general--one who has risen through the ranks, not by winning military victories, but by managing to be in the right place at the right time. How fitting that Mr. Bush has chosen Petraeus as his military spokesman--a man in a political office way above his head, drowning in a sea of mistakes and confusion chooses someone who can do no more than add only a little cosmetic glitter to the awful picture that has already been painted.

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Betrayus has ambitions for the Presidency
Posted by: Ydotheyhateus on Sep 13, 2007 7:49 AM   
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Petraeus for President

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A very BAD Omen, One of Many
Posted by: xvictor on Sep 14, 2007 5:36 AM   
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Sunni ally of U.S., Sheik Abu Risha, assassinated in Iraq

this was the guy Bush was extolling as the best hope for Iraq just a couple of weeks ago. The sheik and several of his bodyguards were blown to bits yesterday in a province that Bush declared was "secured".

yeah, we're winning. hehehehehehehehehehe

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A Very Bod Omen
Posted by: xvictor on Sep 14, 2007 5:38 AM   
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Sunni ally of U.S., Sheik Abu Risha, assassinated in Iraq

this was the guy Bush was extolling as the best hope for Iraq just a couple of weeks ago. The sheik and several of his bodyguards were blown to bits yesterday in a province that Bush declared was "secured".

yeah, general paris hilton, we're winning. hehehehehehehehehehe

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outrider
Posted by: outrider on Sep 15, 2007 3:57 PM   
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If war is hell, those who support it our Sadinists, worshippers of the devil and his agents.

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Why
Posted by: mike_burns on Sep 16, 2007 6:53 AM   
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Why, why do we give any of these people our ear at all.
It's called propaganda. Something the Repuglycans to rally around. The are loosing their 'ss. If I were a Congresman, I would have boycotted, and had a press conference instead. It would have done much better than to get answers from another cronic lier.
Our media hasn't change their stripes either. They promoted this guy like he was going to quote the fifth gospel.
Get a handle. The media is owned and contolled by repuglycans.

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General David H. Betrayus
Posted by: Betrayus on Sep 16, 2007 5:42 PM   
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Hi,

I do not get how anyone could sit there and call a 4 star general who has the Bronze Star for valor...A LIAR?

Heres an interesting take on all this.

General David Betray Us

Have a great week!
Dan

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look at my big dumb stare
Posted by: raywigton on Sep 17, 2007 8:18 PM   
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What a poorly written article. I couldn't find one excuse to mention Eliza Doolittle or Paris Hilton. As far as I'm concerned the article only said one thing, private Betray us has no credibility, and this is exactly what another comment claims it failed to do. The reason we know he has no credibility is because we all knew exactly what he would say before he said it and nobody listened when he did say it. I never heard a word that he spoke and don't intend to. My mind was made up about the war before it began and everyone with a brain knew how it would end up - and so far it has. My military career spanned from Vietnam to the first gulf war. Secretary of Defense Richard Cheney said then, that to invade the rest of Iraq would leave the country in a civil war. The Kurd's would want to be a State, posing a threat to NW Iran and the SE area of Turkey (ancient Kurdistan). The Suny and the Shilites would bring instability to the region because of their counterparts in Iran and Saudi Arabia. (Shilites, - - wasn't that a singing group?) Well, Cheney was right, he should have listened to himself. I guess the time spent with Halliburton caused him to sell his soul to the devil.

I think that private Betray us looks like a rat that just realized the piece of cheese he pulled on is hooked to a trap. You know, in the cartoons, when they have a delayed reaction after running off a cliff. The time to show a facial reaction doesn't really exist and Betray us would have had his back broken in an instant just like the coyote would have fallen from the cliff before he could hold up a sign saying something stupid. But private Betray us had two whole days to look at the camera and that is just what he did. Every picture of him shows those big dumb blank stare eyes that say “oh shit; they know I'm a lying sack of crap.”

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