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The GOP's '08 Candidates Can't Keep Dodging Iraq Much Longer

By Matt Taibbi, RollingStone.com. Posted September 10, 2007.


First Republicans screwed up on Iraq, sending thousands of Americans to their deaths. Then they refused to apologize. And now they're going to pay for it in the 2008 elections.

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Quietly and miserably, like an anxious mother tiptoeing away from an autistic child who has fallen asleep with his helmet on, the Republican Party continues its hopeless search for a viable nominee while backpedaling from its own disaster in Iraq. The candidates, all of them -- I exclude here Congressman Ron Paul, who is an uninvited guest to this ball -- are fourth-rate buffoons, not one of them qualified to hold down the last ten minutes of a weekday open-mike night in a Skokie comedy club. They are divided into two categories: those who try to avoid talking about Iraq by saying nothing at all, and those who try to avoid talking about Iraq by talking loudly about something else.

One Monday a few weeks back in Newark, New Jersey, I met one of the members of the latter group, Rep. Tom Tancredo. The vengeful Colorado midget's rap is immigration, i.e., convincing Middle America that the War on Terrorism is actually taking place in Mexico. But when he shows up in the ugliest city in America to gloat about three kids allegedly murdered by illegals from Latin America, he is greeted by a crowd of pro-immigrant protesters chanting, "Tancredo! You liar! We'll set your ass on fire!" They're yelling so loudly that no one can hear Tancredo speak from a distance beyond two feet.

The actor Paul Winfield was once asked what was the artistic key to his performance as Don King in a made-for-HBO movie about Mike Tyson. Winfield shrugged and held up his spiky Don King wig. His was a one-trick performance. Tancredo also has only one trick on the campaign trail. Whenever he mentions the words "illegal aliens," he follows them with the word "including." As in:

"Sanctuary cities," he says in Newark, "are safe havens for all illegal aliens, including gang members, drug dealers, rapists and murderers, further exposing the law-abiding citizens of such a city to greater crime." In other words, who cares about Iraq when you might get raped by a Mexican busboy?

In the face of the awesome political catastrophe that has befallen the Republican Party in the form of George W. Bush, the response of its new leaders has not been to re-examine their perverted values, their vicious tactics or even their position on Bush's singularly idiotic and supremely characteristic policy mistake, the Iraq War. Instead, the party is closing its eyes and trying, Dorothy-like, to wish its way back to Kansas, back to the good old days of mean-spirited, blame-the-darkies politics of Newt Gingrich, a time when electoral blowouts could be won by offering frightened Americans a chance to pull a lever against gays, atheists and the collective rest of onrushing modern reality.

If this were ten years ago, when America was safely suckling on the Internet bubble and restricting its overseas dabbling to military exhibition games like Kosovo, this back-to-the-good-old-days bullshit would be mere vileness. But thanks to the GOP's excellent leader, Mr. Bush, America is no longer in any position to hide from reality. We are now fully and catastrophically engaged in reality. And reality is kicking our ass, in Iraq and Afghanistan and everywhere else in this world that hates us more and more with each and every passing day. The party's response is to blow that off, pretend it's not happening. Six years after 9/11, Bush's would-be replacements are still reading My Pet Goat. Their solution to the Iraq dilemma is to keep talking tough, as if our kids were not getting arms shot off from Basra to Tal Afar, as if bin Laden weren't still scoring record recruiting numbers in between bong hits on Al Jazeera.

Tancredo's idea for repairing America's relations with the Islamic Middle East is to threaten to nuke the innocent holy cities of Mecca and Medina. "That's the only thing I can think of that might deter somebody from doing what they otherwise might do," he said recently. At the tail end of his Newark appearance, as a means of trying to get him to say something, anything, about the Middle East, I ask Tancredo about that comment.

"That's for a different press conference," he grumbles, and slithers away.

***

Polls may be the devil's currency, near the top of the list of campaign evils, but in this case they tell the whole story. A recent CBS News poll indicates that thirty-one percent of Americans want to begin pulling at least some troops out of Iraq right away. Another thirty percent want to completely withdraw from Iraq, right now. That's nearly two-thirds of the country that wants to start bringing troops home.

Among young people, the numbers are even more striking. According to another poll, voters ages eighteen to twenty-nine now trust the Democrats more than the Republicans on every single issue surveyed, including the War on Terror. A mind-boggling sixty-six percent of young people are against giving the president's Iraq War plan a chance. Even among young Republicans, nearly four in ten favor an immediate withdrawal.

Anyone with an IQ above ten can see what these polls mean; what they should tell the Republican Party is that it simply cannot win a general election unless it changes its tune on Iraq. Instead, after two decades of Reagan-esque macho campaigning, decades in which Republican electoral success so spooked both the national media and the Democratic Party that it became axiomatic that only the toughest-talking and most warmongering politicians had even the slightest chance at the presidency, the Republicans find themselves cornered by their own conventional wisdom. Indeed, they are experiencing a sort of mirror image of the electoral/ideological malaise that has stricken their opponents in recent years.


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Yeah, yeah, tell us something we don't know.
Posted by: rancespergl on Sep 10, 2007 4:16 AM   
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Once the zeitgeist shifts, it's fun to watch the media scramble for the bandwagon. Small consolations amid the horrors.

Yeah, yeah, we know: we're mad as hell and we're not going to take it anymore......*sigh*.

Where ya'll been?

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Now they're going to pay...
Posted by: Grozny_Guy on Sep 10, 2007 6:17 AM   
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I hope he's right. But remember when Taibbi announced that Lieberman's time was up? I do.

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it's irrelevant Matt
Posted by: dover23 on Sep 10, 2007 6:34 AM   
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Does anyone really log on Monday mornings hoping for some political enlightenment from Matt Taibbi?

Is this really a good time for false hope? Anti-war candidates in either party do not have a chance of ending the war!

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» Say, isn't Matt Taibbi one of those guys ... Posted by: Robert_Hoogenboom@leftfoot.com.au
» You get my point, don't you, you little Grozny guy ... Posted by: Robert_Hoogenboom@leftfoot.com.au
» No planes at all! Posted by: Robert_Hoogenboom@leftfoot.com.au
» You are a very silly person Posted by: leafsong1
» No, there were no planes. Posted by: Robert_Hoogenboom@leftfoot.com.au
» Defending Taibbi Posted by: PeaceLove
» Kicking Newark when it's down... Posted by: Grozny_Guy
IT'S CALLED 'PAYING YOUR DUES'
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Sep 10, 2007 7:25 AM   
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The Republicans didn't know when to quit. They followed 'their leader' for much too long and for their own selfish reasons. He took the country down and them along with it. Take a look at who's running in '08. Not a very impressive brunch. Is that really the best they can do? Yes, it is. They will continue to dodge Iraq because they have no idea what to do. They need someone to tell them what to do. No on's there. Thanks, ANNA

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The GOP may be dodging
Posted by: Dboy on Sep 10, 2007 7:30 AM   
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The GOP may be dodging Iraq, but the Democratic candidates are outright LYING about their intentions! Hillay and Obama have NO interest in ever removing troops from Iraq. If they did, they would have no chance of getting the nomination. Or maybe you think WE elect presidents? If you do, you are clueless. As long as Iran poses any real or invented threat there will be no real troop pullout. they'll likely have fake withdrawls now and then so that the Faux News will have something to report. But just as impeachment is not on the table, neither is re-deployment. Democrats were hoodwinked in the mid-term election and will be in '08 as well. The best move is probably not to vote at all, since a vote for any candidate will only encourage them. Any candidate they feel comfortable offering to the public is a candidate not worthy of trust.

dboy

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» You Lost Me.... Posted by: CatDad
» RE: You Lost Me.... Posted by: Dboy
» Voting for Nader didn't help Posted by: leafsong1
» RE: You Lost Me.... Posted by: animalleaderisgreat
NEXT YEAR'S ELECTIONS WILL BE POSTPONED INDEFINITELY
Posted by: Constitutionalist75 on Sep 10, 2007 7:45 AM   
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when Bush bombs Iran, or again politely steps aside for another terrorist attack and automatically becomes dictator. The Congress already passed the law giving Bush emergency powers if and when, so all this hoopla about Bush's departure from office is just a lot of wishful thinking. The ony real choice is between impeachment and dictatorship. By counting on elections instead of impeachment you have already made your choice.

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The 28 percenters
Posted by: reinaldok on Sep 10, 2007 8:17 AM   
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I frankly find it truly amazing that there are probably 28% or even more potential voters who still believe dubya's and his ilks' fraud. They are still screaming, "Stay the course", "Finish the mission" "We don't want al queda on our street corners" They know that the boxes loaded with the bodies of our guys and girls will keep coming home and that Iraq is no longer a country. Very very sad but true

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Anti-War Republican Presidential Candidate, Ron Paul
Posted by: tommytime on Sep 10, 2007 9:01 AM   
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I wish he had mentioned Ron Paul - he's the only Republican anti-war Presidential Candidate. He's against the Iraq War (he always was from the start), against the war on drugs, wants to get rid of the CIA and the Federal Reserve...
This guy is gaining a lot of support, and he has a solid reputation as a strict constitutionalist.
He keeps on winning all the Republican presidential debates too... And a lot of straw polls... Republicans are coming over to his way of thinking.
Here is a video of him at the last Presidential debate...
click

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» umm, dude... Posted by: hurricane hugo
» RE: umm, dude... Posted by: tommytime
C;mon, now...
Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Sep 10, 2007 9:22 AM   
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... we all know we can just keep on doing the same thing that isn't working forever...

We don't need any NEW policy. We don't have a PROBLEM in Iraq! We can just keep throwing people into the meatgrinder until something changes somehow to make this all easier to deal with.. and until then we can just Surge the Course like we've been doing for 5 years while getting nowhere.

AND.. we can keep spending without any consideration and never even think about a way to get out.

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Steve from Vermont
Posted by: steve.janv@hotmail.com on Sep 10, 2007 11:57 AM   
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And let's not forget organizations such as the VFW who provide such a great background for the lies the President and candidates wish to espouse. Just listen, not just to the BS, but to the applause that follows this crap. The President and Republican candidates should be pelted with eggs, not applause. With some people, all that's needed is to wrap your speech in the American flag and you can say anything.

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» RE: Steve from Vermont Posted by: Constitutionalist75
You cant not blame democrats
Posted by: Iconoclast421 on Sep 10, 2007 1:47 PM   
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Democrats do not deserve a free pass for any of this. Many of them voted for the patriot act. Many of them voted for the Iraq war. The ones who didnt could have been swayed if needed. The point is, the neocons had enough democrats to get the job done. Anything beyond that is just mere speculation as to how great the democrats are or what they would have done if Al Gore was president. Just look at Joe Lieberman, ex-almost-VP. If an ex-VP would sell out, who in the democratic party wouldn't? How many did, where we just don't know it yet?

If the democrats were as anti-quagmire as the neocons are pro-quagmire, the war would be over by now.

And the most important point of all: this country has been on a clearly bipartisan incremental march towards a fascist police state. Both parties are responsible for the consistent passage of fascist legislation. Yet the country seems ready to pass the baton from a (supposed) conservative (Bush/Cheney) to a liberal (Clinton/Obama/Edwards). If a (supposed) conservative executive branch was this "liberal" (as it relates to the power of the executive branch and the federal govt) then what can we expect from a liberal executive branch? I doubt it is going to swing conservative...

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Is it so obvious
Posted by: american on Sep 10, 2007 2:19 PM   
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Most of the country wants out of Iraq.
It's still going on.
This is a democracy.
Ergo: conspiracy.

Most of the country wants some form of government healthcare.
It's not happening.
This is a democracy.
Ergo: conspiracy.

Most of the country wants strong environmental laws.
These are being degraded.
This is a democracy.
Ergo: conspiracy.

Most of the country does not want "No Child Left Behind."
It is not happening.
This is a democracy.
Ergo: conspiracy.

Most of the country does not want NAFTA.
We have it.
This is a democracy.
Ergo: conspiracy.

Most of the country wants more progressive taxation.
The tax system is regressing.
This is a democracy.
Ergo: conspiracy.

Most of the country did not want the bankruptcy legislation.
It was passed.
This is a democracy.
Ergo: conspiracy.

Most of the country wants [ ]
It is not happening.
This is a democracy.
Ergo: [ ]

http://www.motherjones.com/bush_war_timeline/

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» RE: Is it so obvious Posted by: CatDad
» RE: Is it so obvious Posted by: barn
» RE: Is it so obvious... Posted by: Dboy
» RE: Is it so obvious... Posted by: PopRox80
Regarding Bin Laden's recruitment efforts
Posted by: sfgumshoe on Sep 10, 2007 2:45 PM   
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9/11/07
DOHA, QATAR (Reuters)

In a political Moebius strip, Al Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden today thanked President George W. Bush for "playing right into our hands" by wasting hundreds of billions of dollars, thousands of American lives, and squandering US credibility in the international community by invading Iraq in 2003.

In a tape broadcast on the Al-Jazeera network, Bin Laden said, "We overestimated our enemy. Mr. Bush has been putty in our hands. Not even I expected him to be this foolish and arrogant," in response to the 9/11 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

"Bush," said Bin Laden, "is like a dog chasing his tail, while the rabbit runs for cover. We made all sorts of preparations for a long haul here in the caves [of Afghanistan], but he pulled his troops out and went after the infidel Saddam Hussein, paving the way for our Muslim brothers in Iran, peace be upon them, to take over the country with the second largest oil reserves on the planet."

"Meanwhile," Bin Laden continued, "we are turning [Al Qaeda] recruits away at the mosques and madrasas from Kandahar to Hamburg. We're simply overwhelmed with eager volunteers, and have raised our standards -- no one gets out of our training camps who can't build a dirty [nuclear] bomb blindfolded, while reciting at least ten thousand verses of the Qu'ran from memory. They come to us and say, 'teach us how to kill the moron Bush and his hordes of moronic American supporters!'"

Bin Laden said that Bush's response to the attacks gave him and his followers "the most dramatic military leverage in human history. With 19 men, some boxcutters, and a few hundred thousand dollars, we have caused our enemy to deplete his treasury of hundreds of billions of dollars, alienate most of his allies, earn the scorn of the entire civilized world, and deliver one of the most educated and industrialized Arab countries, with its immense oil reserves, straight into our hands. Keep it up, Mr. Bush, with enemies like you our conquest is assured, and we will be able to restore the Caliphate below budget and ahead of schedule. As someone who grew up in the construction business, you know how much that means to me!"

In an interview with newly-hired Al-Jazeera correspondent Christine Amanpour, speaking through her burqa, Bin Laden indicated that when US troops invaded Iraq in 2003, he and his top Al Qaeda lieutenants had "cheered them on, there were flecks of foam of exultation in our beards, and tears of joy that we wiped with our kaffiyehs." Plans were scrapped to run a stealth candidate for the US presidency in the 2004 election, "because we could not have hoped for more than what Mr. Bush was already doing to help us ignite a global jihad, and weaken the ability of the US and its allies to fight us."

Bin Laden said he was conferring with top Al Qaeda officials concerning whom to favor in the upcoming US Presidential election. "The field so far is an embarrassment of riches: Giuliani, Romney, this actor Thompson, where do I start? But we have to be realistic, Bush was a historic aberration. His combination of stupidity and cocksure arrogance are not likely to come along again for quite some time."

White House spokeswoman Dana Perino, in response to the tape, said that President Bush did not recall who authorized the invasion of Iraq. "The President knows that someone gave the order, although he was not certain who, or whether he approved it. He said that the duties of the presidency were so pressing that he could not be expected to recall such minute details years after the events in question." Ms. Perino referred reporters to departed administration officials Donald Rumsfeld, Karl Rove, and Alberto Gonzales, saying "they took better notes than President Bush, who is really more of an 'ideas man,' perhaps they can recall how all this happened."

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RE: Anti-War Republican Presidential Candidate, Ron Paul
Posted by: Grozny_Guy on Sep 10, 2007 3:06 PM   
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He did mention Ron Paul. You Paul people are becoming such an aggrieved, ultra-sensitive little minority you can't even believe that someone in the media can treat you fairly or be nice to you. The Ron Paul movement has to stop playing the victim card. Politics is mean and nasty, so toughen up.

And when Paul loses, I don't hear a bunch of liberal media whining. Your views and your candidate are getting plenty of time. The real problem is, they just don't have mass appeal.

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Homeland Security Director
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instead
Posted by: Eat Politicians on Sep 18, 2007 2:14 AM   
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They could listen to your powerful one sentence of stupidity.

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dover
Posted by: Eat Politicians on Sep 18, 2007 2:18 AM   
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and you write?

Nothing...Matt owns you. He owns you, and you are a jealous little wombat.

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