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Are Men Threatened by Funny Women?

By Emily Wilson, AlterNet. Posted September 4, 2007.


Comedy isn't just about laughter -- it's about power.

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"Comedy is so unfeminine," says comedian Judy Gold. "It's so powerful. I mean if you think about it, it's you and a microphone and a bunch of people listening to you."

Gold thinks society is still not accustomed to women having that power. "For a woman, it's like, 'That's interesting, keep it to yourself, shut up,'" she says.

Having done standup for 20 years, Gold has spent a lot of time thinking about the role of women in comedy. She shares some of her observations in a new documentary, Making Trouble: Three Generations of Funny Jewish Women, which she introduced at the Jewish Film Festival in San Francisco.

The six comedians featured in the film are Yiddish actress Molly Picon, Fanny Brice of the Ziegfield Follies, vaudeville star Sophie Tucker, Gilda Radner of Saturday Night Live, Joan Rivers, who went from the comedy club circuit in New York City to the red carpet for E!, and playwright Wendy Wasserstein. Gold says these comedians opened doors for her and her colleagues.

"These women were so amazing," she says. "I mean, here it is 2007 and the only real barriers I have are George Bush and the people who like him, but with Sophie Tucker and Molly Picon, look what they did during those times when there were such prescribed roles for women. When women were just supposed to have kids and maybe drink martinis because they were so miserable."

It's important to tell those women's stories, says Lauren Antler, a program manager with the Jewish Women's Archive, which produced the film. "The comedians in the movie show women it's OK to be funny, and you don't have to be a supermodel to be on stage."

A stand-up comic herself, Antler says most people don't expect women to make them laugh, and when she was growing up, boys at school thought her sense of humor just made her weird.

"People think it's an anomaly to be funny and female," she said.

Stand-up comic Beck Krefting, who is working on a dissertation about women and comedy at the University of Maryland, says it's not socially sanctioned for girls to be funny.

"It's OK for guys to crack jokes and be the class clown, but if a girl did it, she was marked the strange one," she says. "That was true in elementary school and high school and then on the stage."

And, Krefting adds, Women comics constantly have to prove they can do their job.

"I feel like I have to work a lot harder to get my audience's respect," she says. "When a guy comes up, there's this assumption that he's funny, but when a woman comes on, there's a very slight but very present skepticism, like, 'Are you sure you're funny?'"

Krefting agrees with Gold that men are uncomfortable with women having the power associated with humor. "When you're the one cracking the joke, you're in control of the conversation," she says. "Men are the ones supposed to be in control."

Rather than being in charge, society gives girls the message that they need to be quiet and well-behaved, says Andi Zeisler, a co-founder and editor at Bitch, a magazine about feminism and pop culture.

"A lot of people are threatened by funny women," she says. "Women are just not socialized to use comedy as power. We're socialized to play nice. It seems weird that comedy should be so subversive in these times, but it still really is."

Zeisler says we need to look at who is defining what is funny. "I always say it's like a Zen koan," she says. "If a woman makes a joke and a man doesn't laugh, is it funny? I think women are said to have a great sense of humor when they laugh at men's jokes, not when they make jokes themselves."

Sense of humor is defined differently for men and women, says Gina Barreca, a professor of English literature and feminist theory at the University of Connecticut.

"If you say to a man, 'I know a woman who has a great sense of humor and you've got to meet her,' they think she weighs 300 pounds and has an eye in the middle of her forehead," Barreca says. "If you say to a woman, 'This guy has a great sense of humor; you have to meet him,' she immediately thinks he's cute and will be a great lover and fun to be around. People think the girls who are desirable don't speak, so the syllogism is don't speak to be desirable."

Barreca, who has written several books on humor, including They Used to Call Me Snow White ... but I Drifted: Women's Strategic Use of Humor, says that means just speaking up can be a subversive act for women.

"Every time a woman gets up and says something besides 'Oh I love how you parallel park,' we are making strides for feminism," she says.

According to Krefting, the subversive nature of comedy makes it powerful. "You're laughing the whole time, but you're still getting it," she says. "It's not didactic or beating you over the head, but it's a way of saying what you want to say and hav[ing] people hear you and maybe even start[ing] to change their minds."

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Power?
Posted by: Logic's Edge on Sep 4, 2007 12:12 AM   
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Seems like everything is about power or fear if you're a modern feminist.

What a sad way to view the world.

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» RE: Power? Posted by: maestra
Oh grow up...
Posted by: cordas on Sep 4, 2007 1:12 AM   
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There are a load of extremely funny female comedians over here in the UK that do the circuit, and the vast majority of them don't see that there is power battle between men and women.

There are also a load of unfunny ones, most of whom do see the power battle so spend their entire act trying to belittle men.. Now if they where white comedians talking about blacks they would be deemed racist, if they where men talking about women they would be sexist, if they where straight talking about gays they would be homophobes.... but no they are women talking about men so supposedly thats ok.

Of course comedy should push the boundaries, but I for one am getting rather bored of the oh woe poor are us females who just want to bash men.... take the mickey fine, just do it with a sense of humour, and try not to take yourself to seriously at the same time.

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» It IS about power Posted by: hagwind
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I like funny women
Posted by: Fat Man at the Buffet Line on Sep 4, 2007 3:44 AM   
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I tend to go for women who have a twisted sense of humor and can make me laugh as much as I can make them laugh... This article is in my opinion a waste of space. No one wants a boring mate....

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» Me too, but ... Posted by: ssegallmd
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» I don't... Posted by: kiel
A curious question
Posted by: talkville on Sep 4, 2007 4:00 AM   
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It's interesting that, especially when issues of power are concerned, that the issues regarding women are reduced and restricted to male-female relations so often. It definitely is a significant aspect or dimension no doubt; but it's hardly the whole story.

Indeed, these are times that men AND women are rapidly gaining more equal footing in society, in culture, in economics and in politics. On the one hand, one can be very sure that males are threatened by women's comedy; yet, I'd venture to say that many women are also threatened by some of this comedy! From funny to deadly serious, the topics chosen also matter. And when the Will to Power is involved, as it inevitably always does, women as well as men are also becoming more roughly equal.

Struggle is part of any endeavor, including Comedy (that other side of Tragedy). So, if someone is a woman comic, just be funny and let those threatened be threatened. I was disappointed to not run across another great name in the article: Sarah Silverman. I happen to be male, and I thoroughly enjoy her dastardly threatening jibes! But, PLEASE, not ONLY "man-jokes"! There's a bigger world out there to conquer!

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» Give her about 5-7 years... Posted by: JoshuaLudd
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» No.. thats not satire. Posted by: JoshuaLudd
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What else threatens me?
Posted by: Tefech on Sep 4, 2007 4:25 AM   
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I have tried to be open to and to understand Feminism as it has evolved over the years into... what... this? The core messages of feminism helped me recognize the threads of chauvinism and gender ignorance in me. Thank you. But this is pure crap. If there indeed are men and women who are threatened by comedic women, they no doubt have a complex of mental-social-spiritual pathology that sets them apart from those of us not so much in need of deep therapy, re-education and/or relocation to a different planet.

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never have been a standup comic but I was class clown and made my friends laugh
Posted by: Suzon on Sep 4, 2007 4:26 AM   
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Maybe it's how you tell them. A woman on stage wanting to compel people to like and admire her might understandably run into resistance from men and sympathy from women. (I can't imagine men not finding Fanny Brice funny!)

If you are just cracking a joke because the situation arises and you're open to it, it's a far less fraught situation.

On the other hand, there are things which are not funny to men and things that aren't funny to women.

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Okay to be funny
Posted by: BlueTigress on Sep 4, 2007 4:35 AM   
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About the only time it's okay to be funny for a woman is when you are using a joke to defuse a tense or awkward situation.

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Posted by: kepstein7777 on Sep 4, 2007 4:35 AM   
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As usual, I don't agree with everything, but this is a great topic.
Comments:

1. I think the skepticism applies mostly to attractive women. Funny is funny, and people generally accept someone who makes them laugh, regardless of gender, color, etc. But I know when I see an attractive woman on a sit-com or doing stand-up, I sometimes wonder if they put her there to be pretty while someone else is funny, which is often the case...But if she turns out to be funny then, like I said: funny is funny.

2. I think all great comics are considered weird, regardless of gender. And it's usually because they are weird. Comedy geniuses, like other geniuses, are weird, and even creepy. Normal is boring.

3. I don't know why this is, but in the stand-up business there seems to be a glut of bad female comics who are obsessed with relationships, and think rambling on about them is funny. Sadly, I think they contribute to the skepticism about female comics, which doesn't seem fair to good female comics.

4. This article seems to take a few cultural biases, and stretches them into a conspiracy/control thing. If we acknowledge that women are funny, I don't think we're concerned that they're going to take over the planet, or that society will fall apart. Comics have the power to make you laugh and maybe influence politics, but real control comes mostly from money, manipulation, position, etc.

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Some men don't like smart women.
Posted by: lacamila on Sep 4, 2007 4:54 AM   
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You have to be smart to be funny - that's why some men don't like funny women - 'cause they're smart. And, unfortunately, some women realize this and feel they have to pretend not to be quite so smart/funny in order to attract a man. Christopher Hitchens must come across that type of woman on a regular basis - hence his article in Vanity Fair about how women aren't funny. I'd rather just avoid the type of man who doesn't like smart/funny women.

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» RE: Some men don't like smart women. Posted by: Logic's Edge
» What about Miss Teen SC? Posted by: kepstein7777
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I don.t care if the commedienne is male or female
Posted by: Ellie1 on Sep 4, 2007 4:56 AM   
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but I have seen Judy Gold perform. SHE makes me feel uncomfortable simply because she is so vulgar. I would feel the same if a man was telling the jokes she tells.

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» Vulgar Posted by: kepstein7777
Oh please!
Posted by: Axiom69 on Sep 4, 2007 5:34 AM   
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Give me a break! Men are threatened by female comedians because we fear powerful women? We're about to elect the first woman to the Presidency but we're afraid of the comics? This article was a waste of space.

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Only the really dumb and frightened ones
Posted by: owlbear1 on Sep 4, 2007 5:56 AM   
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...

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The point seems to have gotten lost, but it is a small one.
Posted by: Wildman on Sep 4, 2007 5:57 AM   
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The article reads like a light weight feminist critique of women and humor and the comments are light weight critiques of the article.

Men aren’t put off by women who make them chuckle and smile, but a woman who goes for the jugular and tries to make you laugh so hard that your drink comes out your nose, you soil your underwear, and fall backward out of you chair, she runs into more cultural bias than a man. A stand up comedian longs to do that to the audience.

Del Close (the best comedy teacher ever) used to say that to be a great comedian you need to be a sadist and a control freak. You need to want to dominate your audience and control their bodily functions. That needs to feed you on stage not scare you.

A woman who succeeds in mastering this will be as famous and successful as any man, but until they get there, audiences don’t cut women as much slack as men for trying. Women aren’t supposed to want to make you pass a drink out of your nose and soil your pants. If they can,, great! - but they really shouldn’t want to do that . Men are more easily forgiven for trying to be in control and failing than women are. Women who try to be in control and fail don’t get as many points for trying.

That is what I observed over the last 30 years in stand-up

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men are just funnier
Posted by: EasterBunny on Sep 4, 2007 5:59 AM   
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there are funny women of course but just fewer. men are better than women at 3 things, stronger, funnier, and math. two of those things are useful.

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Lateral humor
Posted by: fdgsr on Sep 4, 2007 6:15 AM   
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I like lateral humor. Direct humor of the likes of slap-stick colored jokes do not impress me. Along side any subject that could be used for humor there are latent lateral images that expose hidden agendas, political innuendo, and cultural bias that are the substance of truth disguised as ignorance or bold incoherence.

Most men I know and almost all women don't get it when humor reveals their own prejudice or error. The political cartoon is a case in point. The political cartoonist sketches out the images of the lateral truth lines. The funniest women are those who act like men. Men who act like women are not funny.

There are no female political cartoonists of note.

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» Tina Fey Posted by: clairededuras
Jerry Seinfeld said the same thing...
Posted by: J. Bo on Sep 4, 2007 6:18 AM   
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...when asked about why women are not perceived as/accepted as being as funny as men, especially in the world of stand-up comedy-- he said that being on a stage and making an audience laugh is an inherently dominating, aggressive act; for the audience, to laugh is to be helpless. As a culture we (men AND women) are uncomfortable being put in that position by a woman. It's a pretty primal prohibition.

OR, to quote Brett Butler, when she described rednecks squinting at her from the audience and what was clearly written across their sour faces: "You wouldn't be talkin' that trash if someone had taught you how to make biscuits..."

Funny women get told all the time (by well-meaning men) "You're the funniest woman/girl I know." I notice that men don't get their own subcatagory when it comes to "funny." Apparently, there are comics, and then there are "women" comics.

The great Elayne Boosler decided decades ago that she would not participate in any showcase/event that was specifically identified as featuring "women" comics, and I admire that choice. She's doing her part to change the sexist status quo in the comedy world while being funny, fierce, political, NOT meanspirited, and... very successful.

I'm actually surprised at how many otherwise-"enlightened" Alternet readers fall back on tired, reactionary, stereotypical rhetoric regarding this topic. On "Politically Incorrect" years ago, Bill Maher posited that the dearth of female comedy writers on TV had less to do with sexism and the "old boy" club than the "fact" that women "just aren't as good at that kind of comedy." Janeane Garofalo shot back, "Yeah, I watch TV written by men, and I'm not laughing my ass off."

To his eternal credit, Maher fell over laughing, and told her she was right.

None of us can "decide" to find something/someone funny-- it's a primal, involuntary response we can't control. We can only hope that subsequent generations provide us funny women and receptive audiences NOT so entrenched in the power bullshit of our culture's outmoded past.

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as previously mentioned...
Posted by: skydog on Sep 4, 2007 6:20 AM   
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...the only women who frighten me are Hillary Clinton and the women who support her simply because she's female. A more two-faced corporatist snake never slithered on the face of the earth.

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Is having a vagina a feminist act?
Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Sep 4, 2007 6:23 AM   
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Well, sure we may still have pay disparity and a host of other "important" issues.... but really... the pressing question of feminism today is... can we be funny?

Thanks for yet another fluff piece, Alternet.

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It would be illuminating to compare the American performer/audience dynamic ...
Posted by: SayBlade on Sep 4, 2007 6:25 AM   
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... with those in countries like Canada, UK and Australia. This article is a mere snapshot in a microcosm of one person's comedic experience in one country.

In Canada, female comedians are diverse and talented and have a wealth of experiences with audiences. Their stories would certainly come under the topic of comparing female and male audience response and the issue of power.

Many have made their careers in both Canada and the US and some have gone beyond North America.

A few prominent names: Elvira Kurt, Nikki Payne, Carla Collins, Jessica Holmes, Cathy Jones, Mary Walsh, Nancy White.

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Funny women
Posted by: mazel on Sep 4, 2007 6:25 AM   
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I disagree with a lot of stuff in this article.

First of all, Sophie Tucker didn't do Yiddish comedy, and although she predates Mae West by 10 years, Mae did more to advance women in comedy in general. Fanny Brice would never have gotten anywhere if current trends in comedy didn't demand ethnic characters. I can't see where Johnny Carson felt threatened by Joan Rivers (who I never thought was funny anyway). As cute as Gilda Radner was, she's best known for work similar to what Carol Burnett was doing for years before Saturday Night Live. So I don't see how what these women did paved the way for other women, really, and I certainly don't see any evidence that men feel threatened by funny women, only the opinion of one female comic with an unfamiliar name.

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» RE: Funny women Posted by: particle
How many feminists
Posted by: RaW on Sep 4, 2007 6:33 AM   
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does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
answer: That's...not...funny.

We laugh at that line. But we don't laugh with the woman delivering it, we laugh at her.

Get a clue from the really successful comediennes - be funny. It works. Look at Ellen DeGeneris' material. It's not about power, stupid and gross men, or relationship trouble. It's not gross or sexist. It's about the unexpected, the incongruous, the silly, astute observations of one's own foibles, and connections among themes across a set.

Or, you could just complain that men can't ask for directions and your husband is a sexist clueless jerk and that you're bloated. Whatever. I'll go see Ellen.

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I am shocked...
Posted by: goldmarx on Sep 4, 2007 6:53 AM   
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...that an article on female standups made no mention of two of my faves: Kathy Griffin and Sarah Silverman. Perhaps because they're overexposed?

Griffin has a huge gay male following, and Silverman has a "shock" following. It helps that they're both pro-porn, which makes sense, because both comedy and porn tickle various bones.

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Lol. Great comedy!
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Sep 4, 2007 6:57 AM   
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Barreca, who has written several books on humor, including They Used to Call Me Snow White ... but I Drifted: Women's Strategic Use of Humor, says that means just speaking up can be a subversive act for women.

Successful ("good" is subjective) comedians know their audience, and reach to broaden it. If subversive is the goal, there are good ways to be subversive; if making people laugh is the goal, there are good ways to be funny. If a person isn't capable of melding the two into a money-making skit, then they need to work on their act, if drawing a larger crowd is the goal.

The most successful comic this year preaches the mantra of "gittin'er'dun". Not exactly Chomsky, now is it? Wait...did someone say "Chomsky"...













...oops, nodded off there for a minute. Very smart, very subversive (here I borrow the author's canotation of "subversive") people can suffer from an inability to engage the audience in much the same way as a poor comedian can.

Bottome line: with free speech, you can absolutely have your cake and eat it too, but don't expect people to automatically want to share the thing with you. Pickles and chocolate? I mean...ewwwww.

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OMG, how cool, another aggrievement
Posted by: Moonray on Sep 4, 2007 7:07 AM   
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Society tells women to sit down and be quiet? Well, maybe some straw man dreamed up by someone in the Women's Studies Department does that, but hardly anyone else.

In fact, our society is largely female-oriented. If you don't believe it, just turn on the TV or open a magazine, and chances are you will be assailed by women bitching about how they have no power and are not taken seriously.

I'm sure cavemen endured the same bitching, and so will our male descendants a thousand years from now.

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» RE: You'd have a leg to stand on... Posted by: hellofriends
» Amen. nm Posted by: JoshuaLudd
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to keep it simple
Posted by: hellofriends on Sep 4, 2007 7:22 AM   
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shut up

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Of course humor is political -- what else is new?
Posted by: hagwind on Sep 4, 2007 7:25 AM   
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When I was growing up, there weren't many female comedians on TV, and most of the ones I saw got a lot of mileage out of dissing women. Thinking about Phyllis Diller, Joan Rivers, and others here. Yeah, there was often an extravagantly hen-pecked husband in the story, but the focus never strayed far from the monster hen (usually played by the comedian herself) who was doing the pecking. Lucille Ball was a stellar exception, but it's significant that she wasn't doing stand-up; she was the star of a sitcom. A good sitcom provides context -- it's not just the woman who's ditzy, everyone's ditzy. There are several points of view involved; it's not just one comic on a stage. It's also significant that Lucille Ball wasn't just the star: she was a co-writer and co-producer.

In high school, as I began to wake up politically, what I loved was left-leaning humor, like the Smothers Brothers show and Tom Lehrer's songs. Virtually all the humorists were men, and they weren't specifically making fun of women, so it felt unisex to me. (Much later I realized that unisex humor was like unisex clothing: the better a woman conformed to standard male patterns, the better it worked.) Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In was a huge revelation: Women up there on stage being funny! Women being funny about everything, not just about harridan women and hen-pecked men! Lily Tomlin the Great!

It was the women's movement that got me thinking about what I found funny, and why I couldn't listen to Joan Rivers et al. without feeling queasy. What really got me thinking was the mantra that "women had no sense of humor" and specifically that feminists had no sense of humor. This was transparently a crock: nearly every feminist gathering or project I was part of was punctuated by laughter, often raucous and side-splitting laughter. Obviously we had well-developed senses of humor. The problem was that the anti-feminists weren't laughing, and (in typical powers-that-be fashion) they thought this was our problem.

Humor serves many functions. Making fun of the more powerful is a survival skill for many of us, but humor can also be used to squelch dissent and marginalize dissenters. Humor may be universal, but what each of us finds funny sure isn't: unless you hang around exclusively with people just like you, you've probably figured this out already. ;-)

The short version is that power and politics play an important role in how we use humor and what we find funny. The more power you have, the more likely you are assume that you have a great sense of humor: if you don't laugh, it's because the person cracking the joke isn't funny.

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Grousefeather
Posted by: Grousefeather on Sep 4, 2007 8:06 AM   
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Oh yeah! Well I'm in love with a funny woman and her name is Sarah Silverman and if she doesn't call me soon I'm going to kill my dog!

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» RE: Grousefeather Posted by: YogiBear
Nonsense! I'm a sucker for funny women.
Posted by: curtdogg on Sep 4, 2007 8:23 AM   
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It's true. I love 'em!

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