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Pot Growers Are New Target in "War on Terror"

By Scott Thill, AlterNet. Posted August 29, 2007.


Under Bush, terror has become a justification for any and every abuse of power.
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Last time we checked in on the bizarro nexus between cannabis and terrorism, it was none other than actor/director Tommy Chong who was feeling the Bush administration's post-9/11 wrath. In fact, the stoner icon, whose fabled act was concurrently resuscitated for Fox's drugged and confused comedy hit That 70s Show, was being slapped by John Ashcroft with a nine-month prison bid, a $20,000 fine and over $100,000 in seized assets for selling bongs. The terrorism connection? He was sentenced on Sept. 11, 2003. And if you think that's a specious connection, it's only gotten worse since. In fact, over the last few years, "terrorist" has become an epithet for all seasons.

In 2003, Iraq occupation architect Richard Perle slapped investigative journalist Seymour Hersh with the term, saying, "Look, Sy Hersh is the closest thing American journalism has to a terrorist, frankly." As if filing a story about the doomed occupation of a sovereign state in the pages of the New Yorker was the same thing as flying a 747 into the World Trade Center.

In 2004, Secretary of Education Rod Paige called the National Education Association, the country's largest teachers union, "a terrorist organization" because of what Paige defined as the "obstructionist scare tactics" used by its lobbyists. Because we all know it's every educator's dream to buck the systemby blowing themselves up in front of their students.

And just this month, the Bush administration decided to employ the term to legally target the entire Iranian Revolutionary Guard, a sovereign nation's standing army numbering in the hundreds of thousands. When you want a war that badly, you'll pretty much do or say anything to get it.

So how does the Bush administration get away with crying terrorist at every opportunity? Say hello to the Military Commissions Act. Thanks to this 2006 piece of legislation, terrorism has become the basis of American foreign and domestic policy. Yes, the term has become equivalent to everything from ideologically driven violence to petty theft, and can be used to incarcerate, exterminate or character assassinate anything in sight.

It's no wonder then that federal officials are now revisiting their previously failed effort to link terrorism to cannabis, the only real cash cow in the government's so-called War on Drugs. Only difference is, this time, they don't have Tommy Chong as a scapegoat.

Unable or unwilling to solve the nation's crippling meth addiction or its hypocritical dependency on prescribed narcotics like oxycontin, the Office of National Drug Control Policy (ONDCP) recently rang the terrorism alarm to nail pot growers in Redding's Shasta-Trinity National Forest in California. Along the way, ONDCP "czar" John Walters showed off not only the Bush administration's love of twisted terminology but also its subcultural savvy by coining a memorable phrase of his own.

"We have kind of a reefer blindness," Walters explained during a Redding press conference on the ONDCP's Operation Alesia, a cannabis-eradication program coordinated by the California National Guard's Counterdrug Taskforce and the Shasta County Sheriff's Office. Walters followed that clever turn of phrase with the reliable terrorist designation to describe the armed growers cultivating cannabis in Shasta County. "These people are armed; they're dangerous. [They're] violent criminal terrorists." He even went so far to argue that the "terrorists" growing weed in Shasta County, as the Redding Record Searchlight reported, "wouldn't hesitate to help other terrorists get into the country with the aim of causing mass casualties."

Except there seem to be a couple major problems with Walters' characterizations. For one, Walters declined to explain during the press conference what Operation Alesia's specific goals were. More importantly, he didn't offer up any concrete names of the terrorists or their ideological objectives. What legalization advocates and law enforcement authorities alike were left with was yet another hazy strategy based on loose terminology whose only purpose it seems is to confiscate as much pot as possible from Shasta County's public lands.


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Scott Thill runs the online mag Morphizm.com. His writing has appeared in Salon, XLR8R, All Music Guide, Wired and others.

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The war on drugs.....
Posted by: Michael Boldin on Aug 29, 2007 1:10 AM   
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Is nothing more than a war on you.

It's based on the insidious notion that you do not have ownership over your own body. That you aren't able to make decisions about what you'll smoke, eat, drink, inhale, or ingest in anyway - and instead - the politicians own your body and will tell you can and cannot use their property.

There is little that should be more repulsive to the ideals of a free society than this cancer we call the "war on drugs"

Ending it will make this country more safe, more free and more prosperous.

That's my rant. Read on for more if you'd like:

"7 Ways to Make Your Neighborhood Safer" - click here

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» Great comment on a great article! Posted by: thoughtcriminal
Freedom and Liberty
Posted by: mizipi on Aug 29, 2007 1:31 AM   
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Might as well roll 'em up and smoke 'em.

We are the land of laws, more laws, ad nauseam......

Logic and common sense should be outlawed. That would be closer to reality.

I sure hope the wannabe patriots condemn this article. No better comedy can be found........

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Why can't we rid ourselves of failures.
Posted by: Tatarize on Aug 29, 2007 2:46 AM   
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Honestly, if something has never come close to working, we need to get rid of it. It's not a hard rule and applies to so many things. Failure should be met with discontinued policies. Really if things work and do good they should get more funding. If things fail and never work, they should get no funding.

The fact that the war on drugs is a worthless hunk of crap is secondary to this general rule. Utter failure means you need to change your tactics.

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» in a word: disenfranchisement Posted by: thistleblower
From Barcelona to the peoples of the United States
Posted by: frontiviki on Aug 29, 2007 3:16 AM   
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Hello everybody.

People, u are under attack. And being the United States the rogue single power in the world all that is made to you it will eventually be made to everybody in the wester hemisphere. Being from Barcelona there is not much I can do to help. I just can support all of you that are fighting a government that is turning the former freedom land into a fascist state.
Incidently, all the "free" world depends upon what you can do about it.

Lots of Europeans are starting to hate America, but they dont stop and think that the America they hate is not the American people but its government. Furthermore, they dont understand that the fate of the world lies upon what real Americans can do about the American Neocon quagmire.

Long life to American people!

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» thanks for your support Posted by: KaptainSpiffy
» The nonsense is in my pocket Posted by: eddie torres
» RE: The nonsense is in my pocket Posted by: frontiviki
Saturation Point
Posted by: shangrilalad on Aug 29, 2007 3:31 AM   
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Don’t worry about Republicans, they will survive and prosper from all their corruption, lies and scandals. Americans have reached a saturation point with corruption and no matter what happens now, it’s like water off a Sponge Bob’s back. There’s only so much insanity we can absorb, before we all go insane. Our economic system, government and society are so perversely insane, we will likely elect another madman or woman for president.

Bush wants Fifty Billion more to fight the war, and he’ll get it. That might get us through another month, but what if the war lasts for years? Will he force us to buy War Bonds?

“Those whom the gods wish to destroy, they first make mad.”
Euripides.

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25ghostcommander
Posted by: 25ghostcommander on Aug 29, 2007 3:38 AM   
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I firmly believe that Bush has been in the drug trafficking busines for a long time with his Monterey, Mexico cronies. Maybe, he is just using a governement agency to reduce his competition?????????

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» RE: 25ghostcommander Posted by: babs
» RE: 25ghostcommander Posted by: Lauren
» bush was the dealer Posted by: hayduke1
» RE: bush was the dealer Posted by: Lauren
it is not the WAR on drugs
Posted by: richholland on Aug 29, 2007 4:15 AM   
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let us face it. The problem is not the drug, it is the profit oriented system.
we have freedom of use of drugs and real junks are considered as mental patients
But still we have drugfights, murders etc.
prostitution is legalized but still there is rape and womentrafficking still pimps beat girls. The only stupid thing is the word WAR!!!!
It is about money; big money and there is no tax for USA and no bribes for honest politicians as long as marihuana is not legalised.So the MARKET is the standard for good or bad.
If you steal a dollar you are a thief, if you destroy peoples life by giving them a loan they cannot pay back and they lose their house you are a good business man.
Unless people are understanding that life is beautifull and hapiness is of more importance than millions of dollars, mr Bush and mrs Hillary can control you.

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Record Opium Crop
Posted by: LeaderofMen on Aug 29, 2007 4:34 AM   
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Let's see.

There is a record opium crop in Afghanistan.

The terrorists are over there. Selling the opium. Purchasing weapons with the money.

Bush looks over here instead.

Business as usual: failed Presidential leadership.

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» so... say "cheese"... Posted by: BlueBerry PickN
» Bumper crop = bumper contract Posted by: eddie torres
they won't win
Posted by: davidg on Aug 29, 2007 4:36 AM   
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America got through the McCarthy period, pretty ugly in its height, in spite of what Ann Coulter brays. The Constitution is an entrenched underpinning as Edward R. Murrow made very clear. This current sickness will have its end if the resistance continues to grow, and the Internet continues to be free. There is new growth in the commons; keep fertilizing it. Just keep the dissent going, especially when its unpopular. Despair is the only sin.

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A perfect war
Posted by: marid on Aug 29, 2007 4:37 AM   
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we can't win it, we can't lose it, we just keep dumping money into it, and we are fighting it with ourselves. A Perfect War.

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» RE: A perfect war Posted by: babs
» To MADRID Posted by: crazy carlos
No agenda!
Posted by: PJT on Aug 29, 2007 4:43 AM   
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The problem is, once you look past the whining, which is tiresome, anybody can see the pro-dope lobby does have an agenda, which goes way beyond mere legalization of dope smoking to changing the government. I gave up the use of any kind of intoxicant many years ago, but I have advice. I recommend ditching the preachy agenda and just engaging in random acts of substance abuse, without an agenda. When arrested, instead of unfurling your seventeen page political manifesto, just say..."Wuh???" Try to get dope smoking on a wanton and reckless level with gun violence. We know that gun violence is not terrorism: no politician will talk about gun violence: nobody will touch it with a long stick. Homeland Security will have nothing to do with preventing people from shooting each other with guns. The 12,000 or whatever gun victims in the US every year are NOT victims of terrorism, just random, wanton acts of violence, that's all. Not terrorism, got that? The idea is to de-politicize dope so it is no more like terrorism than gunning somebody down in the street. Then, the impact of dope dealing and smoking will be seen as a small price to pay for freedom, just as gun deaths are a small price to pay for our right to bear arms. P J Tramdack

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» RE: No agenda! Posted by: sea4th
Eternal (Modern) Recurrence
Posted by: talkville on Aug 29, 2007 4:58 AM   
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We love to wage war on metaphors and analogies. It keeps us Busy; and that is our Busy-ness. It fills up Time and it fills up Space and it makes us BELIEVE that something is being done when it's just the reverse.

Fear, and its exaggeration Terror, is a marvel-ous and miraculous experience which each of us undergoes in face of actual, contrived, manufactured or dis-placed circumstances. No matter what we say, it's EFFECTIVE and it will make us act by conscious or un-conscious behaviors. If MANY are acting the same way, this will COMFORT us, and we will BELIEVE we are in the "GOOD FIGHT". It's well understood and well studied in specialized senses by Psychologists, Therapists, Marketing Analysts, Advertisers, etc. Universalizing the accumulated knowledge and applying it onto our general social relations is POWER-FULL. We can Torture or we can Sell or we can Control. Ah, the VALUE of knowledge -- Profit and Power. The interests of a god are not only celestial, they have practical applications. We can declare War on just about any word we choose - for we are NOMINALISTS and aided immensely by the great import from France -- "Post-Modernism", suitably reduced and digested by our USA Academies and dressed in properly American clothes.

Fear of Fear. Fear of Terror. This is presented as a way, a means, a manner of confronting the actions of those who have concluded that THIS PARTICULAR LIFE, individual or not, has reached its zenith. What exactly brought them to that conclusion? Envy? Resentment? Powerlessness? Humiliation? Who knows, I guess. But the response of those humans like Bush is to Fear them -- the more are produced, the more to fear them. The fundamental premise being: We are not responsible; they just appeared from the head of Zeus upon this earth. Heroin is none of OUR doing, there's no profits to be made from such UTILITIES. Lets declare a War on these Zeus products, on those who have declared and concluded there is NO VALUE in living under conditions and in circumstances such as those IDEALISMS given form and content by English, French and German MIDDLE CLASS spokesmen. Ours is Comfort, theirs is Responsibility. Calvin knew it very well, as did Napoleon. Theirs was a War against those above. Bushes and Cheneys and Roves wage a War against those below. There is the difference and, as Shakespeare has been quoted to say, there is "the rub". Aye!

A drug-addicted ("dependent") human is one who will not resist. Drug-, Arms-, Pornography- and Religious- moneys are the most available and the least accountable resources to those Families and Aristocrats who set the conditions for our lives. Join them or fight them, simple as that. There is no "middle-ground". The War is on Metaphors. Question the Image.

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» RE: ternal (Modern) Recurrence Posted by: richholland
magne
Posted by: magne on Aug 29, 2007 5:01 AM   
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Tommy Chong was not victimized by Ashcroft for selling bongs, that was Tommy's son's enterprise: Tommy only allowed his name to be used to be used to promote his son's business. A rather stiff sentence for such a minor crime, wot?

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» Justice in Chongland Posted by: eddie torres
» RE: Justice in Chongland Posted by: babs
The Name Game
Posted by: Conservasaurus on Aug 29, 2007 5:33 AM   
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It seems we have entered a time where it asppears our minds are numb to normal descriptions - they just do not appear powerful enough, or convey our "true intentions!" - so to tell the "true" story lets make it a war!

how does this work in every day life???

Marriage = war on those I love
Sports = war on the other team
The "Other" team = terrorists ball players???
Sex = war on my partner who is a sexual terrorist???
Teacher = "knowledge terrorist" - and teaching must be war on knowledge or students!..

So "war on drugs"?.. How about drug eradication and education program..doesn't sound as powerful?

Drug growers = criminals?.. doesnt sound as powerful...TERRORISTS!!! .. now there is a powerful word!!

Can we call Bush and co. "political terrorists"??? and politics is nothing more than "war on the People" by a terrorist group known as politicians?

you know I think this insanity works???

Except when one starts to refer to another country standing military as terrorist.. Which they might be, but probably not. They follow orders like any military. But in Bushes mind he must feel it strikes a nerve with Americans. I'm afraid it doesn't. It begins to make me suspect of ones motives. Iran is no saint and is truly responsible for quite a bit of whats going on in Iraq, but we created the situation to allow that!

If we are to use extreme descriptives to convey the seriousness of a situation, maybe we have declared war on "common sense" as it relates to foreign policy dealings.

I'm all for the "war on drugs" and terrorism, what ever that is.. but lets call it like it is and not appear to try fooling anyone in word games

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» RE: The Name Game Posted by: drmflorida
Ongoing molestation by my creepy Uncle Sam
Posted by: ssegallmd on Aug 29, 2007 5:59 AM   
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This sounds like yet another good reason to plan a future elsewhere, outside of Stalag USA.

Think about why America was once great and what made us proud to be Americans, and then ask yourself how much of that still pertains today and if it is still a good deal considering the list of disadvantages above:

(1) Economic opportunity - highest standard of living, most upward mobility
(2) Personal freedom - constitutionally guaranteed
(3) Intellectual leadership - NASA, cancer cures, Silicon Valley
(4) Security - from domestic and foreign threats
(5) Moral leadership to the world - necessary humanitarian and military interventions
(6) Envy of the world

They're all gone now, as this marijuana issue suggests.

Oppression of ordinary citizens for marijuana is another good reason to leave this foundering culture. That, and the detention camps and border barriers that they have erected. That doesn't even take into consideration the loss of constitutional protections and the risk of becoming a political prisoner subject to torture. Or being called a terrorist supporter and having all of your property confiscated.

Oh, and not just the risk of being called a terrorist, but of being killed by one just for living in or near an American city. Some American city is highly likely to be nuked or anthraxed in retaliation for American policy, and tens of thousands will die for the pleasure of being an American.

Or the continuously falling standard of living for ordinary people, the erosion of the middle class and the instability of the economy due to outsourcing of jobs, deficit spending, eroding the social safety net, unstable oil prices, housing bubbles, stock market lability, retiring baby boomers, overextended personal credit, loss of bankruptcy safe harbors.

How about this dysfunctional culture with its absence of spirituality and utter lack of decent moral values? Nobody has any free time because they work too much. And Americans endure the hatred, snickering and the contempt of the world.

Even jingoist ditto-heads are beginning to be embarrassed. I just cant emphasize enough in words my contempt for what America has become and what it stands for, or the low quality of the people responsible – leaders and voters both (wolves and sheep) - and my unwillingness to be their neighbor..

Plus, your taxes are being used to : the neocon vision. Wouldn’t you like it if your taxes were being spent as Swiss or Romanian taxes are spent instead of funding the greatest criminal enterprises of all time as it burns Iraqi babies alive?

So, reasons to think about leaving the US (from the above) are:

(1) Increasing danger from domestic enemies – the government’s gulags
(2) Increasing danger from foreign enemies – inflamed terrorists
(3) Diminishing standard of living
(4) Increasing internal and external friction

American citizenship just isn't the great value that it once was given the losses in security, freedoms and prosperity not to mention the fear and hate of the world. America never had much to offer over other free nations apart from economic opportunity, and now that has dried up for everybody but celebrities, lottery winners and white-collar criminals.

Freest country in the world my pitoot! Canadians do everything Americans can plus much more: smoke pot without prison, marry if they're gay, and visit Cuba just to name a few. And America's wealth is not readily available to you, not unless you are already wealthy, willing to break the law, or a celebrity.

So, stay and be manipulated, threatened and lied to if you must or if you choose to. But please disabuse yourself of any notion of American superiority or greatness, or that Americans live better lives. That dream is over.

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» Pot laws STEAL PROGRESSIVE VOTING RIGHTS Posted by: BlueBerry PickN
What do Columbia, Afghanistan, Iraq and Iran have in common?
Posted by: american on Aug 29, 2007 6:00 AM   
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I knew it
Posted by: VannaLaRoche on Aug 29, 2007 6:05 AM   
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I went back and forth with a Stockton reporter about his article complaining that cannabis plantations despoil the natural beauty of the Shasta forest, and how dangerous! they make it for nice non-pot-smoking tourists. I told him he was enabling the DEA, and he denied it up and down.

But the arrival of this article makes more of a case for just that.

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» RE: I knew it Posted by: sakina
well
Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Aug 29, 2007 6:13 AM   
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Yep.. who could have predicted? Law enforcement of various stripes using the shiny new powers they got to go after a serious threat....just using it to go after the same old people they always go after.

There are all these drug idiocies... then look at the rhetoric on "eco-terrorism".. which, by the way, by and large does not kill people or animals. It only destroys property. But, of course, the Britts did the same thing during the Luddite rebellions... valued machines far above the lives of people because they simply would not toe the line industry wanted them to.

Its not a war on drugs. Its a war on personal freedom. Keep that in mind at all times. - Bill Hicks

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» RE: well Posted by: Lauren
Restroom Terrorists
Posted by: Spike Silverback on Aug 29, 2007 6:13 AM   
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And what about those nasty airport/truckstop restroom terrorists. Don't you just hate those wide stance, stool sittin, foot tapping sucker whackers. Can't even take a public shit anymore. I need to find a constipation drug when I travel so I can avoid being terrorized

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» RE: estroom Terrorists Posted by: Lauren
» Idaho potatoes... Posted by: eddie torres
carefully with the word Terrorist
Posted by: richholland on Aug 29, 2007 6:16 AM   
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The Nazis called the european people who tried to save the life of english and american bomber pilots and who tried to save the life of jewish citizens terrorists.

Probably this word has another meaning in american english than in european english.

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Sticks and Stones..., but words will never hurt you! WRONG!
Posted by: djnoll on Aug 29, 2007 6:17 AM   
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Over the course of my lifetime, I have seen many things in this country that have harmed Her - gangs, drugs, domestic violence, and wars. Wars on Drugs, Wars on Terror, Wars on Violence in our Streets (Now there is an oxymoron if ever I heard one!) Nowhere in all my years have I ever heard of one of these wars being a successful solution except one - The Bush War on Democracy and Freedom! American citizens have allowed this maniac to wage war on our lives, our rights, and our children without so much as blinking an eye.

The label "terrorist" is being so rampantly applied to anyone who disagrees with Bush at the same time it is used on defining real terrorists like Bin Laden that it no longer has the meaning it should. Now anyone who speaks up for peace or freedom is a terrorist. This makes them subject to arrest and detention under laws that are clearly unconstitutional and attacks on our freedoms.

In 1787 the term "federal" was meant to mean any action taken by a voluntary confederation of states for the good of all states. The Federalists co-oped the term to mean that a strong central government that would make decisions for all states was necessary to secure freedom and safety for the country, and was better able to decide what was best than the states and the citizens themselves. We are now seeing the final fruition of this elitist policy put forth by John Adams and Alexander Hamilton.

So, the child's taunt "sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me!" takes on a whole new meaning as well. Words are hurting this nation and they are hurting us as a people. But words, like WE THE PEOPLE, can heal this nation as well. It is time for the states to "secure for themselves" the freedom to make their laws enforceable; their people once again capable of the pursuit of "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness"; and to change the meaning of federal back to what it was before the 1787 Constitutional Convention. Ironically, it was the Anti-Federalists who better understood the word "federal" than those who claimed it as their own. It is time for the beliefs of Thomas Jefferson to take precedence over the current administration. It is time for a revolution, led by the people and supported by our military, to take back our nation. It is time for the states to become the leaders in our national policy and for the people to have an impact on policymaking again. It is time for an educated populace who find answers not in drugs or violence, but in helping each other to build a sustainable future and participating in their own governance, for better or worse.

Words will hurt a nation as surely as a child, but words can also heal a nation and unite it for the better. It is time to choose better words and better people to use them than those who are currently in control of this nation. Keep looking America, you might still need to look harder than the current crop of politicians for what this nation needs.

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» Oh Yeah! Posted by: bornxeyed
» The healing Word is Kaneh bosm! Posted by: garry minor
Where would all the bribes come from?
Posted by: bryanth798 on Aug 29, 2007 6:21 AM   
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If pot were legalized, it would put a big dent in a big cash cow for politicians whose incomes depend to various degrees on their own take in the drug business. It would put a dent in the money laundering business that they are getting cuts from and directly involved in, in many cases. They are terrified at the thought of such a thing, and since they find it so terrifying, then they must view those who give them these nightmares as terrorists.

These Likud-style polemics ("Terrorist!" "Terrorist enablers!!!") reflect the style of the folks who are calling the shots these days - illegal aliens (from Israel).

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» Can you say INDUSTRIAL PRISON INDUSTRY? Posted by: BlueBerry PickN
Pot Growing Rights
Posted by: mrs whatsit on Aug 29, 2007 6:23 AM   
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Since pot has been illegal for at least 3 generations in this country, what the hell are you crying about? If someone is going to take law into their own hands just because they feel like it, I don't feel any pity for them. I'm sick and tired of hearing the crying about this form of self indulgence. Legislate to make it legal or shut up. Trouble is, not enough people are working to make it legal and a lot of the people who smoke prefer to sit around and keep doing it the way they're used to doing it because they don't care. If there aren't enough people on your side to legitimize your drug entertainment, that's your problem.
It's not an issue as to whether or not YOU consider marijuana to be a passive drug at this point. The issue is that it's still illegal and in spite of my outrage at the Homeland Security Big Brother Program, growers are setting themselves up for a fall at this point. There are larger humanity violations by Homeland Security than the arrest of intentional illegal drug users.
I personally don't care if someone uses pot. That's their business. Just quit bellyaching about how difficult it is to indulge in something illegal when you get caught. The rest of us are tired of hearing it. Fight for the ones who AREN'T doing anything wrong and being detained and held on false charges. When is this country going to wake up to reality?

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» RE: Pot Growing Rights Posted by: Timba
» RE: Pot Growing Rights Posted by: Lauren
The Clinton Drug War Legacy
Posted by: dover23 on Aug 29, 2007 6:55 AM   
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Nothing really new these days. The Clinton/Gore cops were brutal.

http://www.mapinc.org/newscfdp/v01/n087/a05.html?6793

In the Clinton years, police overreach in the name of the Drug War shredded much of what remained of the Bill of Rights. And those most frequently caught in its web were not the "drug kingpins" legislators claimed to be going after. Mothers, fathers, small-time dealers, medical-marijuana users and even children were caught in a criminal- justice system so overgrown no one is immune to the new powers Johnny Law uses to protect us from ourselves. And while much of the horror heaped on the American public has occurred at the state and local levels, the tenor of the times begins at the top-which places the responsibility squarely at Bill Clinton's feet.

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