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Bush Gets Away with Lies, Lies and More Lies in History-Illiterate America

By , AlterNet. Posted August 27, 2007.


George Bush and other Iraq War supporters have argued that if we withdraw from Iraq the result will be like the killing fields of Cambodia -- an odd comparison considering that the US has direct responsibility for that holocaust.

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George Bush -- and other Iraq War supporters -- have argued that if we withdraw from Iraq the result will be like the slaughters -- the killing fields -- in Cambodia.

Here are the facts:


  • The killing fields were real. The genocide against their own people was committed by the Khmer Rouge.

  • The Vietnamese -- the Communist Vietnamese -- were the people who went in and put a stop to it.

  • The United States then supported the Khmer Rouge.


Here's how that came to happen.

The United States got involved in the war in Vietnam in an attempt to keep South Vietnam from going communist. Which it would have if nationwide elections had been held as promised.

Cambodia is next to Vietnam. It was ruled by Prince Sihanouk. He attempted to be neutral. Both sides abused that neutrality.

The North Vietnamese send arms, support and men through Cambodia on the "Ho Chi Minh Trail" to go around South Vietnamese and American forces. They also used Cambodian ports.

The United States, which was not at war with Cambodia, officially or unofficially, secretly sent armed forces into Cambodia to interrupt North Vietnamese use of that route. In 1969, Nixon began a campaign of carpet bombing sections of Cambodia. Ultimately about 750,000 Cambodians were killed by the bombings (though the numbers are hard to verify.)

In 1970, while Sihanouk was out of the country, visiting Europe, the USSR and China, Lon Nol took over the country in a right wing coup.

There are two stories about American involvement. The first is that we supported the coup, the second (in Tom Weiner's Legacy of Ashes, The History of the CIA) is that it took the CIA and the United States by surprise. Recently declassified documents support Weiner's view.

In either case, once Lon Nol took power, the US supported him. In return, Lon Nol ended the neutrality, closed the ports to the communists and demanded that the Viet Cong and North Vietnamese leave the country, and let US forces openly, though secretly, operate in Cambodia.

There was resistance to Lon Nol. Some of it was certainly a spontaneous matter of national sentiment. Some of it was certainly fomented by various communist interests.

Sihanouk, in China, then allied himself with the Khmer Rouge, Cambodia communists, which conferred new legitimacy on them.

Civil War broke out. Lon Nol was both corrupt and inept. In spite of American financial and military support, he lost.

America left Vietnam in 1973.

The Khmer Rouge took the capital of Cambodia in 1975. They were one of the most horrendous regimes in history. They practiced a kind of class genocide, "re-educating" and murdering anyone who educated or Westernized, as well as minority groups.

In 1978, Vietnam, by then fully Communist, invaded Cambodia to put a stop to the Khmer Rouge and drive them out. They installed a more moderate and sane regime.

The United States, the UK, and China then supported the remnants of the Khmer Rouge. With their help the conflict continued for another ten years.

When George Bush, or anyone else, uses the Cambodian holocaust as a warning of what might happen if America withdraws from Iraq, remember the facts.

1. Part of the holocaust in Cambodia is directly attributable to American bombing. The 750,000 dead. (Comparable to the number of Iraqis killed by American forces in this war.)

2. The civil war that led to the victory of the Khmer Rouge came about, at least in part, because of America's support of Lon Nol.

3. The "enemy," the Vietnamese Communists, were the ones who put a stop to the Khmer Rouge.

4. The United States supported the Khmer Rouge -- after their murders, after the genocide. That support helped a civil war continue for another decade. More death, more destruction.

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Larry Beinhart is the author of Fog Facts: Searching for Truth in the Land of Spin. His novels include Wag the Dog, on which the film was based, and The Librarian which Rolling Stone described as "John Grisham meets Jon Stewart."

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Thank you for the history.
Posted by: Sojourner on Aug 27, 2007 12:29 AM   
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Wasn't the Nixon/Kisinger handling of Cambodia at that time so unwarranted and badly handled that it caused a rebellion in his own camp? I seem to remember there were also big demonstrations in the US against the bombing and invasion, as well as protests in the MSM, if you can believe it.

I shouldn't be surprised to learn, however, that it is something good Republicans try to forget. Bush is the babbling village idiot. I doubt he knows the White House address, in case he gets lost. Oh, right: it's pinned inside his shirt where his heart is supposed to be.

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» Yes, the Dems did get us into WWII Posted by: ReallyBearish
» Facts, not propaganda. Posted by: albrechtkrausse
» RE: Facts, not propaganda. Posted by: Robba29
More Uncomfortable Truths
Posted by: Tom Degan on Aug 27, 2007 1:02 AM   
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Why do you hate America, AlterNet?....Just kidding....

The old saying regarding those ignorant of their own history being doomed to repeat it still holds true. Of course, we shouldn't have expected these clowns to have learned a thing from Viet Nam. During that period, the Bush Mob had "other priorities", didn't they?

Why aren't the American people in a rage about the mess these foolish people have engendered? Why are we not storming the White House, dragging the First Fool out by his feet for a public lashing in Lafayette Park? Hey! That sounds like a nifty idea!

Tom Degan

Goshen, NY
"The Rant" by Tom Degan

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» RE: More Uncomfortable Truths Posted by: maggie.henry@gmail.com
» Why why why? Posted by: hagwind
» RE: Why why why? Posted by: MindyB
» RE: Why why why? Posted by: mountainmama
» RE: Why why why? Posted by: AMERICAN VETERAN
» RE: Why why why? Posted by: hagwind
» RE: Why why why? -- P.S. Posted by: hagwind
» RE: Why why why? -- P.S. Posted by: Nedtheredhead
» RE: Why why why? Posted by: owleyes
» RE: Why why why? Posted by: Nedtheredhead
» RE: Why why why? Posted by: rambleman
» RE: More Uncomfortable Truths Posted by: dennidus1680
» Burkas Posted by: openhouse
» RE: Burkas Posted by: LeftCoastProgressive
» Foiled Posted by: openhouse
» RE: Burkas Posted by: Ydotheyhateus
» RE: Burkas Posted by: openhouse
» RE: Two words: Terry Schiavo Posted by: Ydotheyhateus
» RE: More Uncomfortable Truths Posted by: braxxian1
Why do some people like death so much?
Posted by: mizipi on Aug 27, 2007 1:32 AM   
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Most of those who condemn abortion, believe in war.

Those who praise Bush, freedom and democracy believe in the Patriot Act.

I do not know if Jesus really existed, but it is a good story. A totally innocent person was crucified.

We will all die someday. Why is it that so many people want to cut-short the lives of so many others? Why is fear so much more prevalent than love?

Come on, some of you warmongers. Come on you posters, you know who you are, the ones who start out with something like 'you are an idiot'. Explain it to me.

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» Death is Profitable Posted by: David V
» Death is Posted by: openhouse
» What is Really Tiresome... Posted by: David V
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» Move on Posted by: openhouse
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» Iraq Posted by: openhouse
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» I repeat Posted by: openhouse
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» I have no enemies Posted by: mizipi
» Ramble on Posted by: openhouse
kiddie ranching: a means to an end
Posted by: KaptainSpiffy on Aug 27, 2007 3:48 AM   
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you care for your child maybe six months. then you put them in a kiddie ranch. they learn no true family values there, just the need for attention, some assorted fears, and develop immunity against some infections. then it's off to the herd where your child learns how to be tested instead of how to think. your stupid child allows someone else to think for him. like brittany or ice bucket. you now have jerry springer children who know no rational thought nor anyway to understand rational thought but instead turn to their herd mentality with it's brutishness, who allow some texas assh*le ring a bell and call them to their slaughter. good job. no child left behind!

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» Good point Posted by: mizipi
Thanks for the timely reminder
Posted by: hagwind on Aug 27, 2007 5:20 AM   
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And doesn't it remind you just a bit of what happened in Afghanistan? The U.S. funding and training Islamic misogynists, including our friend Osama, because they were anti-Soviet?

Or of Latin America -- sheesh, where do I even start? Chile? El Salvador? Nicaragua? "The marines have landed on the shores of Santo Domingo"? (Great song by Phil Ochs, btw -- written in 1965, coulda been yesterday.) Oh yeah, and that great democratic [Fe] hero Fulgencio Batista -- anyone who opposed him must have been a Russian dupe, eh?

Another Phil Ochs line: "We were born in a revolution and we died in a wasted war / It's gone that way before." He was singing about Vietnam. Imagine that.

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Some more History
Posted by: Greg on Aug 27, 2007 5:59 AM   
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From what I've read, the Khemer Rouge were a pretty ineffectual bunch until the U.S. started bombing Cambodia. This action greatly radicalized the Khemer Rouge and their rhetoric began to attract more recruits. Funny how dumping bombs on a country can attract otherwise reasonable folks to extreme positions.
Yes, if Cambodia was a "falling domino" in the Cold War, U.S. actions pushed it over!

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» RE: Some more History Posted by: MindyB
Before 9-11-2001 there was 9-11-1973
Posted by: Ydotheyhateus on Aug 27, 2007 6:05 AM   
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sponsored by US...just one of the many atrocities US government has unleashed on nations around the world.

Yet for dumb Amerikans, history starts at 9/11/2001.

Why did Carter/Reagan sponsored rural tribal leaders in Afghanistan against the socialist government run by PDPA? Why did Reagan commission University of Nebrasca to develop Jihadi literature to indoctrinate children in refugee camps?

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» Sad but true.. Posted by: messedup
» RE: Sad but true.. Posted by: owleyes
Why? The answer is simple.
Posted by: Ellie1 on Aug 27, 2007 6:51 AM   
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There is no underestimating the general intelligence or laziness of the American public-especially in red states.

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» RE: Why? The answer is simple. Posted by: VZEQICVA
» lazy Posted by: openhouse
» RE: lazy Posted by: Ellie1
» Conscience Posted by: openhouse
History? What's that?
Posted by: Urstrly on Aug 27, 2007 7:24 AM   
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Does anyone think Bush knows or cares what happened in Vietnam or Cambodia before or after our intervention? I'm sure he only read from a script, and yes, some people think that every word he issues is gospel; they have some vague grudge that the US "lost," nevermind the Cambodians or the Vietnamese. But the rest of us know better, and if we leave him and Cheney in office, they are going to continue their mayhem across the Middle East. We have plenty evidence of impeachable offenses, and if we don't act on them, we can't pretend to be ignorant of their agenda. There's no good way out of Iraq; many more people are going to die, but if we need to stop them before they invade Iran.

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Once Again Progressives Missed the Point
Posted by: madmac10 on Aug 27, 2007 8:44 AM   
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To think that Americans are either too stupid, too lazy, or too docile to do something about the outrageous lies being spewed by the administration is a dangerous misconception. We the people are nothing of the sort, and yet by the very publication of these prevarications, it proves that we have lost the struggle--not only for the soul of our country, but for our very history.

The fact that this nonesense can be published in the first place erases every accomplishment of the Woodstock Generation. And the enemy knows this as clearly as an electric guitar's sustain. While the right wing was steadily building its power, it surreptitiously annexed our culture. We thought nothing of it at the time, when our radio was being taken from us, our music, and our film.

But that was just practice. Now there is nothing in our culture that will cement our solidarity, while the bigger institutions (our press mainly) are being stolen right out of our hands. We may bluster about our leadership--but America has had leadership that has exploited workers, annihilated tribes, and pilfered lands before--nothing new there. But they now hold something that we always held dear to our bosoms: our very culture.

If we want to turn the tide on these oligarchic kleptocrats, we MUST now start taking back our culture. We can be stealthy too; we can be just as sneaky. Once we have our media back, these tyrants will not be able to spew their bullshit. Progressives, please join your fellow citizens in bringing our cutlure and our truths back into OUR hands. Brainstorm solutions, take back the media.

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dipconsult
Posted by: dipconsult on Aug 27, 2007 10:00 AM   
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President G W Bush's falsification of history is disgraceful. I know Cambodia well. I lived there in the 50's (after Dien Bien Phu). I was there twice in the American War. Because of my background I was invited by Premier Hun Sen after the genocide and the country's salvation by the Vietnamese. He was not a Vietnamese stooge as the US pretended. I provided evidence (which HMG had suppressed in court) that Thatcher's UK (as well as the US) was helping rearm and train the Khmer Rouge, under the cover of support for the grossly unstable Prince Sihanouk (whom I first met in the 50s).
I did much research with many Cambodians and concluded with many others that the success of the Khmer Rouge phenomenon was due to the apalling results of american bombardment and intervention in Cambodia for which Nixon/Kissinger were to blame.

I hope this helps in understanding the degree of misinformation achieved by President GW Bush

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» RE: dipconsult Posted by: Robba29
Bush will say anything
Posted by: Democritus on Aug 27, 2007 10:24 AM   
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Those of us who have studied history know that President Bush is grasping at straws. He is dead set on keeping troops in Iraq until he leaves office. So he will say anything to justify his position. Why he chooses to twist historical facts for a failed war is a question for a psychiatrist to ponder; but the simple reason is that if he changes course now he will seem weak and impotent--something a bully always fears. Unless Congress cuts off funds for Bush's mad fantasy, we're in for more war and killing, with more phony justifications, for the next year and a half.

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» really bad actors? Posted by: JoshuaLudd
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» Funny Posted by: openhouse
» Absolutely Correct! Posted by: antiapathy
Do you know what 'direct responsibility' is?
Posted by: pfinerty on Aug 27, 2007 10:33 AM   
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If you put a gun to someone's head, and pull the trigger, you bear the direct responsibility for killing them. If what you did was encourage someone else to pull the trigger, that is referred to as an "indirect responsibility." It helps if we don't use hyperbole to make points that then fall apart because of logical fallacies.

You're welcome,
Patrick J. Finerty

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Another Nail in Bush's coffin
Posted by: dajson on Aug 27, 2007 12:36 PM   
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This latest BS out of Bush's mouth should just result in another nail in the coffin of his credibility. Let him continue to prove to the American people that he's a liar, and an idiot. I suppose he thinks nobody would have died in Vietnam if we had stayed. That's not unlike the logic justifying US staying in Iraq.

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Additional on U.S. Bombing of Cambodia & Rise Of Khmer Rouge
Posted by: Marshalldoc on Aug 27, 2007 1:12 PM   
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The May15, '07 edition of Japan Focus contained a story "BOMBS OVER CAMBODIA: NEW LIGHT ON US AIR WAR" (http://japanfocus.org/products/details/2420) detailing not only the extent of the illegal U.S. airwar against Cambodia but also discusses how, prior to that, the Khmer Rouge (KR) was a marginally effective, low-level guerrilla movement but, because of the overwhelmingly extensive disruption of traditional Cambodian life and anti-U.S. enmity engendered by the bombing, they KR was rapidly expanded by displaced, angry, America-hating Cambodians. In essence, the U.S. was largely responsible for the rise and success of the Khmer Rouge... not something 'dubya would know, or want to know, much about.

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As long as the Democrats keep caving in bill after bill, Bush will continue to SMASH and FUCK
Posted by: maxpayne on Aug 27, 2007 1:14 PM   
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the country to DEATH. KILL both parties and let's build a real progressive party for a change !

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» No killing for me, thanks Posted by: owleyes
Lest we forget
Posted by: gvincent27 on Aug 27, 2007 2:01 PM   
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We're also the ones who supported Saddam when he exterminated those 100,000 Kurds that we keep bringing up...
Crooked Inc.Com Digging Through The Hypocrisy of Washington

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» "We" Posted by: owleyes
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» RE: "We" Posted by: owleyes
bigtime
Posted by: pnut on Aug 27, 2007 6:27 PM   
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I think all of these comments are rated 5, I think you all that support Mr. Bush & Co. need your heads looked at for I think they are holley. What can we do about the news media? They are the only hope we have, but how do we get them to do their job? How does Mr. Bush & Co. make the news media help him hide all of the lies? This people is the only hope we have we must make the news tell the truth and hide no more lies for Mr. Bush & Co., some thing must be done, I will help any way you all think I can, we must stop the lies and stop Mr. Bush & Co. before he kills 1 or 4 million people in Iran, we can not let him do to Iran what he has done to Iraq, the HELL THE GOOD PEOPLE OF IRAQ HAVE WENT THROUGH IT IS A CRIME, MY HEART GOES OUT TO THESE GOOD PEOPLE IN IRAQ, LET US WORK TOGEATHER AND IMPEACH MR. BUSH & CO. AND GET THE NEWS MEDIA BACK ON THE JOB. BILL DAVIDSON

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» RE: bigtime Posted by: Nedtheredhead
He can lie
Posted by: Jeanne on Aug 27, 2007 6:49 PM   
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But he can't hide.

History will judge, and it won't be pretty.

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And don't forget that bush was a history major!
Posted by: Chloe2005 on Aug 27, 2007 8:07 PM   
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He actually graduated! My head feels like it will explode! Doesn't bush realize that we have video of all his speeches? How many lies will the American people accept? Impeachment is too good for him (and his Gang). Prison is the only answer. Hello, World Court! Have we got a case for you?!!...

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» Impeachment is just a start Posted by: Ellie1
Wow
Posted by: Jeanne on Aug 27, 2007 8:25 PM   
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A great history lesson. Pity that most Americans are unaware of all of this. I knew a little, but to have it succinctly lined up like this just makes our ignorance seem that much more malevolent. So, the communists in Vietnam were actually responsible for halting the barbarism of the communist khmer rouge. We, the supposed freedom-loving, democracy-promoting US of A supported Pol Pot. I think we need to hang our heads in shame. Americans need to stay after school and study history. And any idiot (GWB) who sees the lesson from Vietnam as being that we should have stayed because of the loss of life that resulted from our departure, should be flogged and then sent to detention. How do we tolerate that cretin as president?

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History, Hell! Bushies don't recall what he says from one week to the next!
Posted by: Ian MacLeod on Aug 27, 2007 9:06 PM   
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He contradicts himself and his own recent statements over and over, and no one ever calls him on it, or on his contradictions of what the experts say. His supporters refuse to acknowledge any of it at all. I STILL hear Southern Baptists saying he's the greatest president EVER. Lucky for me I have a good supply of Alka-Seltzer, but I may need to find something stronger if this keeps up. I think I have an old Compazine script around here somewhere...

Ian

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It's not about Republicans vs Democrats
Posted by: Jbuuty on Aug 27, 2007 9:54 PM   
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While there might be some other motives involved in the previous post, let's don't get confused and think that Democrats have been angels compared to the Republican demons.

The use of atomic bombs to end WWII by Truman troubles me, and of course the Japanese citizens, very much. Was it necessary to use such weapons to murder thousands of innocent civilians to end WWII. That is very debatable.

Were Clinton's bombing the former Yugoslavia, and the almost continuous bombing of Iraq, and the bombing of a pharmaceutical factory in Sudan acts of peace?

The list of Democrat Presidents who have done such things is very long indeed. Even Carter, whom I admire greatly, involved the US in acts of unnecessary war.

The Republicans, of course, have a list as long as the Democrats, and they seem. at times, to actually enjoy the killing of non-Americans. From Reagan's illegal involvement in Nicaragua to the Bushes' wars on Iraq and Afghanistan, ideology and money have taken precedence over human life.

Is it possible to ever have a government that has a desire to simply do what is right and just? Can we have a government that realizes that what is good for the world is also good for the USA?

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» One kingdom Posted by: openhouse
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Killing people is good for America (huh?)
Posted by: Col. Jackleg on Aug 28, 2007 1:49 AM   
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We got a long history of it and have killed more people worldwide than anyone else. We provoke more violence and rattle more sabers and encourage more discord than anyone else. We kill more of our own citizens than anyone else. We put more people in jail than anyone else and we actually have "think tanks" and screwball politicians that believe tactical nuclear weapons are useful and more politically correct than cluster bombs. We haven't done enough yet, no its high time to killl Iranis, nuke some North Koreans, blow up some Pakistanis, unite Russia with China to really test the big bang theory and don't leave out Chavez and his allies in Central and South America. Of course there are the commies in Cuba and those wetback SOB's in Mexico to get after. But lets not forget Haiti, the Balkans and surely there must be alot of Africans we can take out. What joy, killing people is good for America.....it must be because we do a helluva lot of it and look at how well it has served us? Huh.

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How ignorant are Americans?
Posted by: ReallyBearish on Aug 28, 2007 2:30 PM   
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Some posters think they are practically brain dead. I have a simple test. Take out a globe and ask the man or woman in the street to find various, but important countries-- like the USA. I understand that 20 percent of high school students can even find the US on a map. How many can find Saudi Arabia, Australia, Iraq, Vietnam, etc.? How many in Missippi can find Idaho? This test should speak for itself. Don't even bother asking questions about things like the American Revolution or the Civil War!

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» RE: How ignorant are Americans? Posted by: blitzmesser
The Grandest Lie
Posted by: Reader11722 on Aug 28, 2007 2:38 PM   
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There's only one important question, did the US gov't allow/participate in 9/11?

The answer to that query would explain the illegal wire-taps, suspension of habeas corpus, banning of books like "America Deceived" from Amazon, detaining of dissenters in fences miles away from events, and multiple wars based on lies.

How can the gov't be innocent in 9/11 when we have caught it lying so many times (WACO, Ruby Ridge, no WMDs, USS Liberty, Operation Northwoods, Gulf of Tonkin, Pearl Harbor, ETC.)?

In law, if you determine a person lies ONCE during his testimony, it can be assumed that he lied in the remainder of his testimony. How come we do not hold the gov't to the same standard as it holds us to?

The gov't lied to us about Iraq and more Americans have died there than in 9/11. If the gov't lied about Iraq then why is everyone so reluctant to believe that the gov't lied about 9/11?

Final link (before Google Books bends to pressure and drops the title):
America Deceived (book)

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» History channel Posted by: openhouse
» RE: History channel Posted by: leafsong1
. . . Just one second
Posted by: TheStranger on Aug 29, 2007 11:35 AM   
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This is all great factual stuff, but I see nothing to support the statement that we backed the Khmer Rouge. Make one error and it could cast doubt on the 95 percent of stuff that in this case is accurate. Incidentally, another related & really atrocious fact from this era -- Nixon-Kissinger backed the Pakistani dictatorship when it massacred Bangladeshis and sent forces against India, which tried to stop the massacre of Muslims by Muslims.

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Bush, the Widowmaker
Posted by: penobscotdziekuje@yahoo.com on Aug 30, 2007 3:04 PM   
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Our misguided frat boy is trying to equivocate A with B, saying Iraq and Vietnam have a shared mathematical, (military and political) parallel past courtesy of the Red, White and Blue.
We ARE repsonsible for the murder, carnage and the disruption of two sovereign countries. The Vietnamese took their country back after we left. The killing stopped.
The slaughter on the Tigris and Euphrates continues unchecked. Iraq is brutally mangled like an egg in a vise.
Obviously Bush is a poor student of history. Now he's doomed to repeat it. Woe to the next president who has to clean up W.'s mess.
Our involvment in Vietnam and Iraq (and elsewhere) has separated families and made widows in these areas. But he's factually wrong to compare Iraq to Vietnam. His formula is false.

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