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Edwards Goes After the 'Corporate Democrats' -- Is This a Turning Point for His Campaign?

By Joshua Holland, AlterNet. Posted August 26, 2007.


In a dramatic speech, John Edwards fired a major broadside against corporate America and, more significantly, "corporate Democrats," -- the likes of which hasn't been heard from a viable candidate with national appeal in decades.
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Last week, John Edwards fired a broadside against corporate America and, more significantly, "corporate Democrats," the likes of which hasn't been heard from a viable candidate with national appeal in decades.

Edwards is en fuego right now, and if he keeps up the heat, his candidacy will either be widely embraced by the emerging progressive movement or utterly annihilated by an entrenched establishment that fears few things more than a telegenic populist with enough money to mount a credible campaign.

"It's time to end the game," Edwards told a crowd in Hanover, New Hampshire. "It's time to tell the big corporations and the lobbyists who have been running things for too long that their time is over." He exhorted Washington law-makers to "look the lobbyists in the eye and just say no."

Real change starts with being honest -- the system in Washington is rigged and our government is broken. It's rigged by greedy corporate powers to protect corporate profits. It's rigged by the very wealthy to ensure they become even wealthier. At the end of the day, it's rigged by all those who benefit from the established order of things. For them, more of the same means more money and more power. They'll do anything they can to keep things just the way they are -- not for the country, but for themselves.

[The system is] controlled by big corporations, the lobbyists they hire to protect their bottom line and the politicians who curry their favor and carry their water. And it's perpetuated by a media that too often fawns over the establishment, but fails to seriously cover the challenges we face or the solutions being proposed. This is the game of American politics and in this game, the interests of regular Americans don't stand a chance.

It's a structural argument, and Edwards didn't pull punches in calling out his fellow Democrats, saying: "We cannot replace a group of corporate Republicans with a group of corporate Democrats, just swapping the Washington insiders of one party for the Washington insiders of the other." The rhetoric was a clear signal that Edwards is going to beat the drums of reform as a contrast to Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton in the primaries.

About a third of the speech focused on the trade deals that Bill Clinton championed, and his argument that those "wedded to the past" can't provide the answers was a barely-veiled rebuke of the Clintonian arm of the party, and the media's chosen "front-runner" for the nomination.

If Democrats are engaged in an existential struggle between the party's establishment and its grassroots, Edwards is obviously betting that the grassroots' passion and energy will trump the Machine Democrats message' apparatus -- this was a speech that was not written by the usual coterie of Beltway consultants.

The most striking aspect of Edwards' speech was his implicit argument that class still exists. For years, both parties have obscured the divisions that are so prominent in modern American society, painting a picture of a country in which we're all part of an entrepreneurial class with more or less similar interests -- a key ingredient in the false "center" to which politicians and Beltway pundits kow-tow. "Let me tell you one thing I have learned from my experience," Edwards said last week. "You cannot deal with them on their terms. You cannot play by their rules, sit at their table, or give them a seat at yours. They will not give up their power -- you have to take it from them."


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Edwards-Kucinich! The only better choice would be Stewart-Colbert.
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Aug 26, 2007 11:40 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I'm only partially not serious. At the very least, I'd love to see Jon Stewart host both a Republican and a Democratic presidential debate. The deer-in-the-headlight glaze of the leading contenders would be priceless.

One point about Edwards is that his lead donor is ActBlue - the complete list of donors for all candidates can be found at Open Secrets.

It's instructive to look at the remarkable similarities in funding between Obama, Hillary, Romney, Giuliani and McCain, and to compare that to Edwards and Kucinich's sources. (Although I doubt that some of Edward's previous donors are too pleased about his recent comments...)

I think what we are seeing now is real effort by the corporate media to throw the race to either Hillary or Obama. This kind of coverage can't be bought - and anyone who looks at the ownership of the corporate media will quickly realize that they're just following the orders of their controlling shareholders - i.e. the very same investment banks that have thrown their weight behind Hillary and Obama.

For example, the ongoing stories about Edward's ties to hedge funds and the subprime crisis ignore entirely the fact that Obama's #1 donor is Goldman Sachs - the very firm that had set up a hedge fund to specialize in these loans, and which took a big hit as a result.

What's remarkable is the ongoing media attempt to portray Obama as a populist candidate, when in reality, he's at the top of the investment bank's list of preferred candidates.

"During the first quarter he nearly doubled Clinton's take from private-equity firms--$85,350 against $47,900, according to the magazine Private Equity Hub--and, with $479,209, he placed first among candidates from both parties in giving from investment banks, many of which run their own hedge funds and private-equity operations (Rudy Giuliani, the runner-up, got $473,442)."

However, regardless of who wins the presidency, ordinary citizens are going to have to keep a very close eye on politicians, the media, and corporate power centers - and will also have to involve themselves in the process to a far greater degree than has been the case. If that happens, we could see some real positive changes take place. Edwards would at least be something of an people's ally in that process.

» They at least APPEAR... Posted by: ABetterFuture
» RE: Don't do that to Dennis. Posted by: oregoncharles
Is Edwards Credible?
Posted by: texshelters on Aug 26, 2007 12:06 PM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Wasn't Edwards in the Senate when some of the current undemocratic legislation was passed? Wasn't he part of the Kerry ticket that was also loathe to support a populist agenda? Why should we believe him now? Kucinich is the real deal. However, better Edwards than the other front runners, whatever their names are...

Joe Tex

» RE: Is Edwards Credible? Posted by: CatDad
» RE: Is Edwards Credible? Posted by: greenthumb
» RE: Is Edwards Credible? Posted by: peacefullaim
» Re: Is Edwards Credible? Posted by: Conservasaurus
» RE: e: Is Edwards Credible? Posted by: surfreality
» Typical Dino Posted by: Ellie1
» RE: e: Is Edwards Credible? Posted by: CatDad
» RE: e: Is Edwards Credible? Posted by: dlueth
» RE: e: Is Edwards Credible? Posted by: drmflorida
» RE: e: Is Edwards Credible? Posted by: peacefullaim
» Kucinich? Posted by: Scientz
» RE: Kucinich? Posted by: lfranks
» RE: Kucinich? Posted by: magnolia
» RE: Kucinich? Posted by: sea4th
Hallelujah!
Posted by: ~Fiona~ on Aug 26, 2007 12:55 PM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Its about damned time someone told big business to stick their money where the sun don't shine.

I wonder if that corporate whore Hillary will change her tune when she finds Edwards gaining ground?

» RE: Hallelujah! Posted by: deenie
» RE: Hallelujah! Posted by: halg
» RE: Hallelujah! Posted by: babs
» RE: Hallelujah! Posted by: racetoinfinity
joyce
Posted by: joysea on Aug 26, 2007 1:11 PM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
At last! The campaign is beginning to sound exciting... and REAL! I so hope that Edwards is being authentic. and that he has the courage to hold his ground. He will be the target of so many greedy, vicious, complicit and unpatriotic people! May The Force be with him. Besides, John has such a handsome face, and his would be a nice replacement for Bush's asexual smirk.

» RE: joyce Posted by: Basenjis
No other candidate
Posted by: hurricane hugo on Aug 26, 2007 2:00 PM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
paints as accurate a picture of where we are right now as Edwards does. Does that translate into being able to change the elements of that picture should he be elected? Who knows?
I'd like to find out, though.

plur

Reminder
Posted by: PirateJesus on Aug 26, 2007 2:03 PM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Remember if you decide to throw your hat in with Edwards to donate if you can spare the money. There's a big gap in funding and though that does not necessarily break the campaign, it could.

Agreed!
Posted by: porgygirl on Aug 26, 2007 2:33 PM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Donate to the Edwards campaign, and put a bumper sticker on your car/bike/backpack. The corporate media has been working hard to marginalize Edwards despite his strong support, and the more visible we can make that support, the better.

Edwards/Kucinich would be a dream. Although he hasn't been impressing me lately, I think Edwards/Richardson would be a good pair--Richardson's international and executive experience would be helpful, and Edwards has enough Elvis (as Molly Ivins would say) for both of them.

» Richardson is an idiot. Posted by: Obijuan
» RE: ichardson is an idiot. Posted by: Lauren
» nice, Lauren. Posted by: porgygirl
» RE: nice, Lauren. Posted by: drmflorida
» thank you hagwind! Posted by: dlueth
Good ole fashion Convention
Posted by: EJW on Aug 26, 2007 2:52 PM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Yes - now it gets interesting. Maybe we have have a rip roaring Democratic Convention like in the past. Politics hasn't been this entertaining in my lifetime. I just hope if Edwards or Kucinich makes it, they don't go the way of Robert Kennedy. Dennis Kucinich is a real fighter and it looks like Edwards is going there as well. Thank the powers that be that the blinders are coming off and the veil is thinning.

Transparency and public funding - have to do it if we want to survive as a country and a world.

Sort of deja-vu'ish..
Posted by: imjustanidiotidontknowanything on Aug 26, 2007 2:58 PM   
Current rating: 1    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
..a blend of ralph nader and jimmy carter. Yes he will not make it. Fact is that the forces,that he ,$23 mil. dollars and ..i don't know how many voters are up against, are too big!
change is hard.like fighting windmills.

» RE: Sort of deja-vu'ish.. Posted by: PirateJesus
» RE: Sort of deja-vu'ish.. Posted by: imjustanidiotidontknowanything
» RE: Sort of deja-vu'ish.. Posted by: Lauren
I hope he's for real, but I'm skeptical.
Posted by: dlueth on Aug 26, 2007 4:42 PM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
What's Edwards' net worth at these days? And how's his voting track record?

» Why is his net worth relevant? Posted by: may261989
» RE: Why isn't his net worth relevant? Posted by: Joshua Holland
» Here's a better question: Posted by: HeroesAll
Edwards is Being Attacked Based on Stock Holdings
Posted by: PirateJesus on Aug 26, 2007 7:38 PM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
So, he owns stock in a mortgage company that's trying to stay afloat, just like any other mortgage company these days. What percentage of mortgage companies are completely shutting down these days?

Anyone have more information about this?

Edwards, you got my attention
Posted by: peacelf on Aug 26, 2007 7:44 PM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I love Dennis Kucinich, and I'd vote for him any day of the week and twice on Sundays, if I was Republican and lived in Florida. However, Edwards, you got my attention. I know they call you a populist, but now you're talking my language:anti-corporation. Corporate power, or, more specifically, plutocratic power is on the rise since that famed neo-liberal of yesteryear, Bill, (I didn't have sex with that woman) Clinton fostered the spinachification of corporate power with NAFTA, CAFTA because I HAVE Ta'. The Corporate Blutos turned national wealth into international wealth, and now many of us stand by and watch with utter dispair.
Along comes Kucinich in 2004, shouting from the pulpit only to land on deaf ears (my apologies to the hearing impaired), and what, look up there!...in the sky! It's a bird!...It's a plane!, It's John Edwards flying faster than a speeding bullet, and not mussing up his hair, to save the day!
Help! Help! Please save me from my corporate master!
Please save us, somebody.

Peace

» RE: dwards, you got my attention Posted by: SusanForKucinich
Nice and ok, but I seriously doubt he can match Kucinich or even Gravel and don't forget Huckabee.
Posted by: maxpayne on Aug 26, 2007 8:21 PM   
Current rating: 1    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
If there is a contest between Huckabee and Edwards, Huckabee will have a better chance at get the populist vote over Edwards. Hint: Governor vs Senator. Now we all know that Governor beats Senator almost every presidential election.

» Hint, you're wrong Posted by: Phenix
Same man I heard in 2003, people listening now
Posted by: JohnMucci on Aug 26, 2007 8:44 PM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I supported John Edwards in 2003. I came to him first through his policy proposals. Then I went to hear him speak.

Today's John Edwards is really the same John Edwards I heard 2003. When he talked about corporate lobbyists then he thought we ought to "cut 'em off at the knees."

His policy proposals then were thoughtful as they are now. The difference today is that he has decided that the time has passed for the more incremental approaches he took in his last run.

Same opportunity rhetoric as Andy Stern
Posted by: charles on Aug 26, 2007 9:27 PM   
Current rating: 2    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Radical-sounding rhetoric, a reactionary "universal health care" proposal, and American dream opportunity terminology close to Andy Stern. For example,

Q: You have carved out a left-of-center position in the race for the Democratic nomination by talking about the growing disparity in this country between the haves and the have-nots—the Two Americas. With your millions in the bank and celebrated $400 haircut, aren't you very much one of the haves? So how sincerely can voters take your position?

A: Oh, there's no question that my family is a "have," absolutely no question about that. But I began in a family that had nothing. And because of hard work and luck, I've had a lot of success in my life, like lots of Americans have. So my view is that I have a responsibility, both as a citizen and as a Presidential candidate, to try to make the same opportunities available to others. That's at the heart and soul of why I'm running for President. I understand what the American dream is. I think it is important to embrace that aspirational component, to applaud those who have done well and give opportunity to everyone to do well.

--Interview in Business Week, Aug. 20

Very tiring
Posted by: Captainmagic on Aug 26, 2007 11:25 PM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Just exactly when would it be that you Americans actually hold out both hands, palm upwards and look at one hand and then look at the other. Thinking for a moment...OK several moments.. and then saying to yourselves...Mmmmmmm..Bu$hCo- Edwards...Mmmmm...Bu$shCo.....Mmmmmm...Edwards...jee I wonder if we should trust Edwards?....Mmmmmmm....He doesn't seem to have enough amerikan $'s.
Dear people there seam's to be a man of some standing among you, who is offering something other than catastrophe for America.....Mmmmmmm...Bu$hCo.....Edwards....Elites/ greed or Edwards/ America....

Thank the gods I am not an American, who can't see an amerikan when he see's one....Psssssst (Bu$hCo)

I have always asked for "True America" to please stand up...

So what are you waiting for....STAND UP!!!!!!

Change your destiny...we of the rest of the world await you to "share" with us, all that we together, can be....>>

Regards Captain.

P.S. Please leave your bombs in the dustbin of history.

» RE: Very tiring Posted by: Tom Degan
» RE: Very tiring Posted by: OEST
» RE: Very tiring Posted by: Lincoln fan
» RE: Very tiring: Lincoln fan Posted by: Basenjis
» RE: Very tiring Posted by: Lauren
» RE: Very tiring Posted by: OEST
» RE: Very tiring Posted by: Lincoln fan
David Scott
Posted by: davedenali on Aug 27, 2007 3:28 AM   
Current rating: 2    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
If the writer believes that attacking "corporate Dems" is going to make up a 25 point gap in the polls, I got news. It gets Edwards the Kucinich vote.

» RE: David Scott Posted by: solrev
» RE: David Scott Posted by: Basenjis
» RE: David Scott by choice Posted by: solrev
» RE: David Scott Posted by: jmp3954
Bravo, John Edwards
Posted by: paul_revere on Aug 27, 2007 3:34 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I have been a fan of John Edwards all along. He was really disappointed when Kerry didn't pursue the investigation/recount after the election in Ohio. I could sense that he was truly on our (the peoples') side then. He actually seemed shocked that Kerry caved so quickly.

He's the person who is going to change this country. Everything about him is good except maybe the issues surrounding the Israel-Palestine conflict. However, he may feel a bit more sympathy for the Palestinians once he secures the Presidency. The AIPAC lobby can cause problems for any Dem candidate if you go against the Likud/Zionist policies, or at least seem to. I have hope that John will set the Zionist lobby straight after he's elected.

I am going to support Edwards all the way, and if I get to be a delegate to the Democratic Convention, I will not relinquish my vote to anyone else. Edwards is the best hope for our country. Period.

Nice Rhetoric, but . . .
Posted by: EKSwitaj on Aug 27, 2007 3:37 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I would like some evidence that he will actually stand up and fight for his supposed ideals. His health care plan doesn't go far enough for me; as long as the profit motive remains part of the system, quality of care will suffer. And I'm not about to forget that he voted to authorize the war in Iraq.

» RE: Nice Rhetoric, but . . . Posted by: bkvwd57
» RE: Nice Rhetoric, but . . . Posted by: leafsong1
I'm just sick and tired of the Corporatocracy!!!
Posted by: helgerry on Aug 27, 2007 3:41 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Mr. Edwards, if you're serious, YOU GOT MY VOTE! As a democrat, I was beginning to loose hope in the Democratic Party. Hillary? Corporate whore! Obama? He's been bought and paid for as well (I'm a black person, however I do not feel any obligation to vote for him at all)!
I'm so disillusioned that I've been considering voting for Ron Paul. But Mr. Edwards, if you really mean what you said in that speech I will vote for you... Please do not disappoint me sir.
I'm just sick and tired of the Corporatocracy!!!

the truth resonates no matter who tells it
Posted by: Suzon on Aug 27, 2007 4:40 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
We can enthusiastically support those who want to restore the idea of "liberty and justice for all" whoever they may be.

Americans may have been dumbed down through blatant misrepresentations, quasi-religious patriotic fever and fear, but "telling it like it is" can overcome this.

If the message is the right one, it doesn't matter who delivers it!

Edwards all the way
Posted by: Shey on Aug 27, 2007 4:50 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I've been 100% behind John Edwards since he announced and every time I hear him speak, I'm more impressed. He's saying all the things I so hoped to hear Kerry say when he was running, only to be disappointed time after time. Edwards may be our last hope, if we want to save what's left of our rapidly disintegrating democracy.

» RE: dwards all the way Posted by: SusanForKucinich
» RE: dwards all the way Posted by: SusanForKucinich
God's Speed!
Posted by: williameon on Aug 27, 2007 5:46 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
There is a new wind blowing!
We must ride it to
Victory in 08
If we all work hard enough in solidarity
We will effect positive progressive change.
I am starting to hear some very progressive ideas expressed by the
Democratic Candidates.
This is very uplifting to me.
Our voices have been heard.
There is a lot of Reptilian Selection Machinery to overcome.
Rigged machines
False Flag Operations
Caging lists
Packed courts
Unlimited funds
and
The Faux Media.

Our work is cut out for us.
We must stop!
The War Machine first.
Then change the system that created it.
It is a abuse of power.
Accountability is Job One.
They must be held responsible for their crimes.
Corpirate power must be curtailed.
Their political shills removed from office.
Their strangle hold on the voice of freedom removed.
Disband
The Black Army and
Their Shadow Government

Help Stop!
These
Lying
Spying
Secretive
Greedy
Murderous
Torturous
Corpirate Crooks!

» RE: God's Speed! Posted by: VZEQICVA
» RE: God's Speed! Posted by: Lauren
You Forget
Posted by: paschn on Aug 27, 2007 5:47 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Something. Ballot machines without paper. Here's why Mr. Edwards will not be elected, ( although I want him to be). The swine stole 2 elections already and Republicans being what they are, instead of being outraged at elections in this country stolen by the elite, they think it was "cute". Well, they've been able to distract the drones, ( not a difficult feat ), enough again to prevent mandatory paper trails on voting machines.
Edwards' plan for universal healthcare is insightful and could work but, as the drones did with Clinton, they'll bury their heads up their collective butts and not focus enough to elect him OR prevent the elite from stealing another one. The US sheeple wouldn't recognize a moral, concerned, compassionate candidate if one bit them on the ass. Like the little neo-con "deb" said during the Nixon/Mcgovern campaign when asked why she knew Nixon would win; " Just look. All the Nixon supporters drive BMW's and Cadillacs. McGovern's all drive Chevy's and Volkswagens."
Eisenhower said in a letter to his brother that any candidate foolish enough to meddle with workers' rights or social security would NOT be a politician long. He forgot one key thing. The sheep mentality of the drones in this country.

» RE: You Forget Posted by: OEST
» RE: You Forget Posted by: JohnMucci
End of Edwards...
Posted by: Ydotheyhateus on Aug 27, 2007 5:52 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Corporate Amerika is going to destroy Edwards. The weapon of choice will be main-stream media. Get ready for new attacks on Edwards about such trivial issues like his 'hair-cuts'.

Edwards must know that now he doesn't have a chance at all to win the nomination! He understands the true master of democratic amerika is the military-industrial complex that feeds holds the purse strings of the political campaigns!

» RE: nd of Edwards... Posted by: VZEQICVA
» RE: nd of Edwards... Posted by: Lincoln fan
Why Edwards has a chance, and what he must do.
Posted by: KeepsonTickn on Aug 27, 2007 5:55 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
It's important to consider why Congressional approval ratings are hovering around 20% now. People don't "disapprove more of Democrats than Republicans," they have just discovered that too many Democrats are not much different from the Republicans.

That same concern holds true for Presidential candidates, and can bring John Edwards the nomination, if he is willing and able to really get the message out. Hillary defends lobbyists, and Obama wants to partner with them. We need someone who will show them the door.

I want to see John Edwards get the nomination, but I was disappointed when he backed off from the "bumper sticker" comment. I believe he should have pressed it and further explained himself, rather than leaving to to the media to present it as an "Edwards faux-pas." He should have noted that the "War on Terror" turns "criminals" into "warriors," and has elevated the status of terrorists throughout the middle east.

The media will find some negative sound bite here as well; to counter that, Edwards must follow through on the point, and continue to hammer it. One thing Bush knows (and maybe the only thing he's ever been right about) - when you market something, whether it is toothpaste or a war, constant repetition is what sells.

Edwards should also talk about public financing and clean elections, which is the only way the corporate stranglehold on politicians can be broken. Tell us how to fix to the problem - most people don't have a clue.

talking about corporate democrats....
Posted by: eosrk on Aug 27, 2007 6:22 AM   
Current rating: 1    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
...and he's sporting a 400 dollar haircut.

» HAIR! HAIR! corporate democrats.... Posted by: alternetrose
» Unless Posted by: hurricane hugo
» As somebody mentioned above... Posted by: MatthewSavage
Edwards' Window is Closing
Posted by: Mike5000 on Aug 27, 2007 6:23 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Edwards had his chance to be a progressive president but his window is closing. He talks the talk but his policies are the usual corporate welfare (check his website.).

Iraq: Edwards only removes combat troops. He would continue air strikes, special ops, mercenaries, military advisers and trainers, logistics, all the (don't call them "combat") troops needed to protect the above and their (many decades but not "permanent") bases. Most importantly, Edwards would protect war profits.

Health: No solution, just a morass of legalize and a requirement that more of us give money to insurance companies.

Peace Dividend: No way. Gotta feed the Military Industrial Complex. Edwards wants to modernize and rebuild our armed forces. We're already more powerful than the rest of the world combined. Is he planning on attacking Mars? No, just keeping the good ole corporate boys happy.

Civil Rights: An after thought. With Busheviks rigging elections and shredding the Constitution, Edwards has no civil rights agenda, just a meaningless footnote to his plan for more fascist fatherland security.

We were early supporters because we liked his rhetoric. He ought to have plans to halve the pentagon budget, prosecute election riggers, break up monopolies, and recover hundreds of billions of dollars from war profiteers. But he doesn't. If he can't control his DLC policy wonks now, he'll never be a populist in charge of the White House.

Questions? Check his website.

» RE: dwards' Window is Closing Posted by: tommy_slothrop
» RE: dwards' Window is Closing Posted by: JohnMucci
» RE: dwards' Window is Closing Posted by: tommy_slothrop
» Good point Mike Posted by: WitchyNy
» RE: Edwards' Window is Closing Posted by: Earthian
This is what we have all been wishing for is it not?
Posted by: american on Aug 27, 2007 7:04 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
"Let me tell you one thing I have learned from my experience," Edwards said last week. "You cannot deal with them on their terms. You cannot play by their rules, sit at their table, or give them a seat at yours. They will not give up their power -- you have to take it from them."

Wow! This is "downright revolutionary" and gets people killed in other countries...wait...it gets them killed here, too.

"John Edwards is becoming a very different kind of candidate, and his growing message of empowerment and attack on the corporate class may prove to be the most interesting story of campaign 2008."

More than that: it will be the most interesting story of the first half or the 21st century. He will be this century's Theodore Roosevelt.

'Bout time.

» Yup Posted by: american
» Oh, THAT Theodore Roosevelt! Posted by: hagwind
» "Muscular Christianity" Posted by: hagwind
OH WHAT A BEAUTIFUL MORNING !
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Aug 27, 2007 7:16 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
So I turned my computer on at 9AM Eastern Time. Gonzo finally quit and John Edwards suddenly broke away from the pack. Looks like our military will be pulled from Iraq. Sarkoszy finally spoke up. Then I read all the comments on this site to find that the majority of readers favor Edwards. He is seriously all about the American people. He's a real charmer but he doesn't kiss anybody's butt. Underneath the boyish smile is a tough smart guy who doesn't cave in. ANNA

OH WHAT A BEAUTIFUL MORNING !
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Aug 27, 2007 7:16 AM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
So I turned my computer on at 9AM Eastern Time. Gonzo finally quit and John Edwards suddenly broke away from the pack. Looks like our military will be pulled from Iraq. Sarkoszy finally spoke up. Then I read all the comments on this site to find that the majority of readers favor Edwards. He is seriously all about the American people. He's a real charmer but he doesn't kiss anybody's butt. Underneath the boyish smile is a tough smart guy who doesn't cave in. ANNA

GOOD FOR EDWARDS. I AM RUNNING TO DO THE SAME IN NC's
Posted by: poppop_schell on Aug 27, 2007 7:21 AM   
Current rating: 1    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
12th Congressional District. I have promise NEVER to take a PAC donation from either companies or abor unions but will from special issuses PACS like those who seek to protect the Environment.

Anyone wishing to help make sur Edwards has a Congressman to support him wen he is elected, conatct schellforcongress@hotmail.com

good grief folks the idiot we have now was "the white knight"
Posted by: MAD on Aug 27, 2007 7:52 AM   
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Edwards came out and made a proposal to the American "people" and so many of you nay sayers are dregging up all your own little piss ant reasons why to sniff your noses at him. Ride the horse until he gives you a reason to get off. If you follow some very simple things like push the envelope when it presents itself the media will have its hand forced. Get the ball rolling is as simple as that. SIMPLY PUSH THE ENVELOPE. EDWARDS has mad a huge decision that others won't do, the ball is now in the court of the people to pick up. Hound the media. Crazy Carlos

Republicans and Corporate media want Hillary to win. . .
Posted by: bowriter on Aug 27, 2007 7:59 AM   
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the nomination knowing she can't win the general election against the likes of a Fred "Regan Copy Cat" Thompson or even that ass Rudy. Edwards, Kucinich et. a.l be damned in the process. . .Dems better wake up and nominate someone who can win. I almost guarantee Hillary would lose the general election if nominated: Rush and co. will have a field day. . .they'd rather see the reincarnation of Hitler take over than see Hillary as President. Even if she won, it would be a bruising 4 years. . . An Obama/Edwards ticket with Kucinich as a future Secretary of State would be a power house and the repubs and conservatives would have little dirt to dig up and throw around with that ticket. . .they would but it would be a lot less than Hillary Bash '08. . .THINK DEMS THINK

» Karl Rove wants Hillary to win. . . Posted by: KeepsonTickn
» Exactly! Posted by: CatDad
» But wait! There's more! Posted by: KeepsonTickn
Kucinich hasn't been heard by Alternet in decades
Posted by: Ripcord on Aug 27, 2007 8:07 AM   
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Josh, I thought that only your boss deliberately ignored
Kucinich to campaign for Edwards

» Absolute nonsense Posted by: Joshua Holland
» nice snow-job Josh Posted by: Ripcord
» Quality Article Posted by: Phenix
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» In your own world Posted by: Joshua Holland
» RE: In Edwards' world Posted by: Ripcord
» RE: In Edwards' world Posted by: Joshua Holland
Davy
Posted by: davy on Aug 27, 2007 8:46 AM   
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The more I read about corporate america the more I realize that there are 2 americas, the people and the corporations. When the corporations say, something/someone doesn't support america they mean corporate america. Better wake up soon. If you think this isn't real look to central/south america. The terrorists are us folks.

» RE: Davy Posted by: solrev
» RE: Davy Posted by: Lauren
How Much Reform Will The Dem Party Allow?
Posted by: Moe Snodgrass on Aug 27, 2007 8:47 AM   
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Sure, Edwards and Kucinich are preferred but remember, they're still Dems, the party that got into bed with the Repubs to create the Commission on Presidential debates, to eliminate third parties and to sanitize and control the content of the televised debates.

I don't know the answer so I'm asking: exactly how much influence will the Democratic Party have concerning meaningful reform at the end of the day? Is it just up to Edwards/Kucinich or are there stronger powers at work in the party?

JOHN EDWARDS FOR PRESIDENT!
Posted by: AlohaTerry on Aug 27, 2007 9:09 AM   
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To me, Edwards invokes memories of JFK and RFK--he is sincere and is definitely our clear choice to defeat the RepuKKians and the Global Corporate Technocracy!! IMPEACH BUSH/ CHENEY NOW!! DO NOT LET THEM START WWIII by BOMBING IRAN!! ELECT EDWARDS!! I, for one, will work my butt off for John Edwards!! I don't care who is VP--Hillary or Obama--but seriously, Edwards is the MAN that RepuKKKians and Rove FEAR the Most!

Finally a breath of fresh air
Posted by: tim_s_eb@yahoo.com on Aug 27, 2007 9:09 AM   
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I am delighted to read what Edwards had to say about what really is ailing America today, standing firm against corporate and the wealthy is admirable and a noble cause. I hope it isn't empty rhetoric and that he stays the course to bring about real democracy and people power.

He Voted for the Protect America Act
Posted by: whoisjoe on Aug 27, 2007 9:15 AM   
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The quote in the third-to-last paragraph mentions spying on Americans, implying that Edwards is against this.

If that's true, why, oh why did he support the Protect America Act???

Most disappointing.

» He didn't vote for it Posted by: Joshua Holland
If we think small, we'll just get smaller
Posted by: hagwind on Aug 27, 2007 9:20 AM   
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"Some people see things a