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Bush's Looming Immigration Crackdown a Painful Exercise in Futility

By Joshua Holland, AlterNet. Posted September 21, 2007.


This fall, Americans are going to witness Bush's brutal "crackdown" on illegal immigration designed to appease right-wing hardliners.
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This fall, Americans are going to witness a brutal and ham-fisted "crackdown" on illegal immigration by the Bush Administration. It will be a stark and tragic illustration of what happens when a vocal and well-organized minority of hardliners hijacks the country's legislative process.

The results are entirely predictable - the results of bad public policy are in some ways easier to forecast than good. Here's what we have to look forward to.

Over the next few months, the feds will launch some well-publicized SWAT team-style immigration raids much like the one earlier this year that Aimee Molloy described in Salon:

...swarms of armed federal agents from Immigration and Customs Enforcement gathered in the blistering cold outside the Michael Bianco Inc. leather goods factory in New Bedford, Mass. At about 8 a.m., as a helicopter circled overhead and police kept watch in Coast Guard boats in the nearby harbor, the agents rushed the building military-style, blocked the exits, and ordered the employees to turn off their sewing machines, where most were busy stitching backpacks and vests for the U.S. military. By evening, 361 workers -- mostly from Guatemala and El Salvador -- had been taken into custody after they were unable to prove they had legal status to work in the United States. The factory owner and three managers were also arrested and charged in connection with hiring illegal aliens.

They'll be designed for some nice "tough on immigration" photo-ops, but they will have, at most, a superficial impact on the flow of immigrants into this country -- of that we can be as sure as we are that the sun will rise tomorrow.

How can one be so certain? Because the policy does nothing to address the underlying supply of willing foreign workers or the demand for exploitable migrant labor. Anyone who believes that such a policy has even a chance to work must also believe that Prohibition was a success and that Reagan won the "war on drugs" 20 years ago. Attempts to crack down on black markets for things like drugs, prostitution or immigration without addressing the economic factors that drive those markets simply will not work. In such cases, "enforcement only" has a proven track record -- it's perfectly ineffective.

The proof is in the pudding: as the effects of NAFTA were felt in the Mexican economy -- wiping out millions of jobs in the agricultural sector as cheap, subsidized corn flowed in from the States, the number of entries on the Southern border surged. Immigration hardliners repeat that we need only enforce the laws like a mantra, but what they don't tell you is that during the same period as the latest wave of immigration was cresting on our shores -- 1994 to 2005 -- enforcement dollars increased by 1200 percent.

There will be more of the same. Some fencing will be built on the Southern border. Some of it will divide communities that have long co-existed and who don't want a fence in their backyard. If need be, the ecology of a large swath of the southwest will be destroyed. And while there is likely going to be an increase in detentions along the border, the more prominent effect will be making military contractors with close ties to the government rich.

In fact, the noisy crackdown may even increase the incentive for workers from Latin America to migrate Northward. A recent study reported by the Seattle Post-Intelligencer helps explain the dynamic of what "pushes" Latin American immigrants to the U.S.:

Last week, the Inter-American Development Bank released the results of a survey showing that fewer Mexican workers in the U.S. are sending money to their families back home -- down from 71 percent to 64 percent in the first half of the year. In some states, it dropped to 56 percent from last year's average of 80 percent.

Ths study estimated that two million people in Mexico are losing some of the income they depend on from their relatives in the US. They'll need to supplement that in some way, and they already have an existing social network North of the border. The logic of the policy is perverse: Bush is launching immigrant raids for an inflamed base that will ultimately give an incentive for more illegal immigrants to come to the US.


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Something else not mentioned is what Mexico has...
Posted by: asilsfable on Sep 21, 2007 1:00 AM   
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...that we do not have at home. Like universal health care.

Recently, the government started a program for everyone to have a house. Mortgages at $100 a month. Affordable housing for everyone.

Imagine that!

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Excellent article
Posted by: ender on Sep 21, 2007 1:10 AM   
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...well researched, well thought-out, excellent conclusions: bravo! I especially like the free market logic of supply & demand pertaining to labor, connected with the failed drug policies.

One of the rights people are endowed by their creator with is the right to better themselves, and that's all that these people are trying to do - peacefully, through hard work.

Any thought on Halliburton's "immigration emergency" holding camps?

First they came for the Mexicans, and I didn't speak out because I was not a Mexican. Then they came for the Guatemalans, and I didn't speak out because I am not a Guatemalan. Then they came for the Costa Ricans...

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» Tariffs Posted by: Baal_Labs
» Come on... Costa Ricans? Posted by: karma_ran_over_dogma
» RE: Come on... Costa Ricans? Posted by: Joshua Holland
» apples & oranges again Posted by: karma_ran_over_dogma
» RE: apples & oranges again Posted by: Joshua Holland
» RE: xcellent article Posted by: 1gma
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» RE: xcellent article Posted by: kelly.nickell
» really a stretch Posted by: zooeyhall
Amnesty was declared, Joshua?
Posted by: edith on Sep 21, 2007 2:42 AM   
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"Crackdown" is in quotes? Why is enforcement of longstanding legal requirements mocked by putting quotes around them? Congress can change immigration law-both by toughening or diluting the current standards. Practically all modern nations restrict immigration. Mockery is not a substitute for respect for reasonable laws passed by Congresses that openly limited (and in 1965 expanded) immigration quotas.

Where is the concern for the African American youth constantly told that no jobs that don't require a college degree are available? Why don't the meatpackers and the growers pay wages to attract US citizens to needed jobs. Only then can we really see if there are shortages in some labor markets. In that case, immigration quotas can be adjusted, after debate and due consideration. Mockery is not a substitue for the democratic process.

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» RE: Amnesty was declared, Joshua? Posted by: oregoncharles
» RE: Amnesty was declared, Joshua? Posted by: Joshua Holland
» RE: Amnesty was declared, Joshua? Posted by: Joshua Holland
» RE: Amnesty was declared, Joshua? Posted by: oregoncharles
» RE: Amnesty was declared, Joshua? Posted by: Joshua Holland
» RE: Post the data Posted by: oregoncharles
RE: You want some data ... I'll give you some data (3)
Posted by: kelly.nickell on Sep 22, 2007 9:58 PM   
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As a small businessman surviving on very little right now, I'll add some more furor to the outrage, via anecdotal experience.

I drive all over the south doing small jobs for government agencies, and now even into WA, ID, OR, UT, IN, ND, SD, WY, etc. I pick up local labor for driving my "Mexican" steam shovels on a regular basis.

I usually look for help at the local bars, and more often, areas where day labor can be had. On government contracts, I cannot and never have been able to take un-carded labor onto a job. As such, I have found that the good old boys from the bar more often than not, spend their time leaning on my shovels complaining about wetbacks and smoking cigarettes, than cleaning dirt out of ditches.

My experience with day labor on the corner is one of a willingness to do the job well for another day of working for Davis-Bacon wages. This extends well into the private work I do where I have no real obligation to anyone but the guy willing to work his ass off for what I can pay him and still eat that night.

I have people all around me screaming about this over beers, but very, very few that have spent enough time in a ditch with his help to understand what the fuck is really going on.

So, for all of you that think this is some kind of problem we can bitch into compliance, come spend a few months in my boots, or better yet a brown skinned man with a green card and a family, being thrown under the bus of mob idealism, and it's inclusive bullshit hiding the real problem.

The guys I've met trying to get their green card, living on the fringe share a common theme; they've paid money, sometimes everything they've had to lawyers and shysters that take it and never call them back. This leaves them stuck in a no mans land, made worse by those screaming loudest about it. This real problem has to do with how we look at one another. It has nothing to do with enforcement or compliance, and everything to do with our collective zeal in creating the stack of things we don’t like, sort of a conservative class/gender/race garage cleaning. Turn us all into creeps that hate everything, and the masses will never be able to organize effectively against the ones that started the fight. We’re too busy worrying about fags, liberals, Mexicans, Islamo-phrase-of-the-month to see the real enemy.

Take a trip down to the gulf coast and see and experience how well our idealism is working, and empowering those sorry bastards getting rich off those backs, protected in the American flag from criticism and harm for refusing to put them on equal footing with the men of the south fighting for the same jobs. Everyone is losing, friends.

We've become so laser beam focused on the few that we're throwing out the many.

During the Reagan years they did the same thing, but then it was crack-whores-on-food-stamps buying steaks.

No one ever explained why a crack whore couldn’t have a steak, they just knew they were mad about it.

If you take a little time to look at it from the bottom, you might see something pretty scary – your reflection.

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» Enforcing immigration laws ... Posted by: Joshua Holland
» RE: nforcing immigration laws ... Posted by: Joshua Holland
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» Edith, edith... I didn't know you cared! Posted by: thoughtcriminal
Is a crackdown all that bad really?
Posted by: morningstar1972 on Sep 21, 2007 4:40 AM   
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Actually, I think good hardworking Americans have seen enough.
after 9/11, floods of Mexican illegals came in through the Arizona borders and flooded the market. They were actually requiring that the average Arizona worker also speak Spanish. Shopping malls became Latino Fiesta bizarres, and floods of Mexicans selling their wares not only set up their shops in the Fiestas, but also on the sidewalks under tents, just like the slums in Mexico. Burritos became the popular food of choice, and 10-50 family members would live in homes throughout Phoenix. (and, some that many in apartments).
They were invincible of the law, since they were not US citizens.
A good instance, is a Hispanic man who sideswiped my vehicle. Even though he had no insurance, no license, and no green card, the officer let him drive away. The Officer told me there was nothing he could do.
The MEXICAN crisis in Arizona has reached a considerable degree where good Americans and those who have LEGALLY obtained their citizenship just cannot stand it anymore, Republican or Democrat.
It isn't just far righties making this decision, it is across the board.
Don't we think that all LEGAL immigrants are cool, but an illegal might mean trouble?
since when did we make them above the law? is any citizen in the US above the law? (ok, maybe don't answer that!)
I know what it is like in Mexico, I have been there. Their customs are not like ours. They sell wares in the streets, and their policies are different.
but, when someone comes here, and places a Mexican flag in your front yard, would you be a bit upset? pissed? or would you not care?
I have met many Immigrants legal, and illegal in this country.
shouldn't we all have a fair shot at democracy?
and, wouldn't the best way to deal with this problem by reforming the citizenship laws to help these people out?

It is not right, and it is not fair to tell one immigrant who follows our laws that they have to wait 4 years to become a citizen, and then automatically grant amnesty to the immigrant who breaks the law.
remember, if they have just broken the law we have about crossing over the border, how many other laws do you think they are going to break here in the US?
I think that if we really DO want to help these people out, those who want to gain citizenship legally, than it is our duty to do so. There are many things an immigrant needs to know about their survival here in the blessed USA.
~M~

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» "Latino Fiesta bizarres" Posted by: karma_ran_over_dogma
Bush loves immigration because it takes attention away from the true globalisation
Posted by: albrechtkrausse on Sep 21, 2007 6:09 AM   
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agenda he (and his father and the Clintons and almost all rich families have) which is the free movement of capital and advancing the globalist agenda of eliminating national sovereignity over natural resources, capital markets, taxation, regulation, banking, and monetary systems. At the same time Bush is helping focus American's dismay at all the illegals we have his Arab buddies buying large shares in our stock market, in our major hedgefunds, and our dollar is so weak that we are almost prisoners to countries like China, UK, Japan. Bush sole agenda is to destroy the middle class (by devalueing the dollar and allowing illegal immigration). Once accomplished the borders will be sealed again. You see they could care less about 'freedom' of people but only are concerned with 'freedom' of capital. China is their ideal system. It allow companies/families/juntas to use 'capitalism' and reap huge profits but people are not free to move, pray, own guns, speak, etc.

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unanswered question
Posted by: Constitutionalist75 on Sep 21, 2007 7:54 AM   
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Obviously, Bush's crackdown on illegal immigrants was forced by growing public protest from hundreds of small towns and neighborhoods across the USA where growing populations of illegals are disrupting the fabric of everyday life and lowering the standard of living for citizens who then leave to find better-paying work elsewhere, The illegals are displacing the American working class by undercutting wages they must have to support their families. American citizens would do all the work that illegal immigrants do but not for slave wages. Is this not true? Mr. Holland presents conflicting sources of data.

What I don't understand, and what Mr. Holland makes no effort to explain, is how the illegal immigrants are able to send money to their relatives in Mexico if they are working for lower wages than legal citizens. How can they feed themselves and pay rent on less than the minimum wage and still have enough left over to send home? The cost of living is rising everywhere, yet the illegals send money to Mexico out of the lowest wages in the USA. HOW? Where is the money coming from? It certainly isn't coming from the employers. And exactly how much money does an average illegal send? A dollar a week? Two dollars? Five dollars? Somebody should do some further research.

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» RE: the question has been answered. Posted by: Constitutionalist75
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» RE: unanswered question Posted by: Constitutionalist75
Let's hold the Republicans accountable!
Posted by: sausage on Sep 21, 2007 7:54 AM   
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Accountability. This been a Republican buzz word for the past twenty or so years. But it seems that Republican politicians duck, dodge and cover when it comes to accountability on the issues so dear to their hardcore base.

Let's look at the record.

Has the Republican Party, even when it has had majorities in both federal congressional houses and held the White House outlawed abortion? No!

When the Republican Party has had majorities in both federal congressional houses and the White House did they ever ban "gay" marriage? No.

When the Republican Party has had majorities in both federal congressional houses and the White House have they ever legislated affirmative action laws away? No! They let activist judges do that.

So I think it's high time we held the Republican Party accountable and get 100% behind building a wall, from San Diego, CA to Brownsville, TX, that makes the Berlin Wall, Hadrian's Wall and the Great Wall of China all look like decorative garden walls. We ought to have walls higher than those the Israelis are using to fence in the Palestinians. It should go fifty feet into the bedrock too! And a biological deadzone a half-mile inland from the border! With guard towers every quarter-mile. Who needs the Big Bend National Park. Who needs the Bentsen-Rio Grande Valley Park! Who needs the Santa Anna National Wildlife Refuge. All we need is to keep those filthy, job steeling Mexicans out!

Once that's done we can get our lazy sons and daughters off their dead-"but-Dad-I-gotta-college-degree" butts and out in the fresh air and sunshine! Hell, if the little bastards want a healthy tan, instead of spending old dad's hard earned cash at the "tanning salon" they can go pick lettuce! You ever see a Mexican without a good tan?

Then once we got the Mexicans out, then we built a wall along the northern border to keep Canadians from coming down here, clogging our doctors' waiting rooms and clinics for boob jobs, tummy tucks and facelifts their socialized medicine makes them wait for!

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What do you want done?
Posted by: karma_ran_over_dogma on Sep 21, 2007 8:18 AM   
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I think it's a fair question, after a more heated than usual article on how Nothing Can Be Done, Nothing Should Be Done, and Anything Being Done Is Immoral.

Is this a call for open borders? You always deny that, Mr. Holland, but if not, what do you want done? I thought the immigration bill that failed a few months ago was pretty good (& suddenly found myself a moderate compared to most who post here), but you didn't like that bill either.

And as a late '70s-early '80s roofer, I can't make heads or tails of this paragraph:

In every case that people blame foreign-born workers for decimating native employment in an industry such as roofing or meat-packing there were lax regulations and busted unions --the conditions that allowed employers to turn them into undesirable occupations for Americans -- before there was a shift to undocumented workers.

Eric Schlosser in "Fast Food Nation" convinces me you're right about meat-packing, but what's with the phrase "such as roofing or meat-packing"? Residential roofing -- done almost entirely by small contractors -- was never unionized to begin with. And it's not particularly unsafe, unless you're the type who commonly hits your other hand with a hammer, in which case you should probably consider becoming a writer or something.

But I'm glad to see, at last, a slight nod to the notion that improving conditions in Mexico and further south would encourage residents to stay home.

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» RE: What do you want done? Posted by: Joshua Holland
» Why not a crackdown on business? Posted by: karma_ran_over_dogma
» RE: Why not a crackdown on business? Posted by: Joshua Holland
» RE: The de facto open borders argument Posted by: Joshua Holland
The American people want an end to anarchy!
Posted by: DrColes on Sep 21, 2007 8:30 AM   
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80% of the American people want an end to anarchy!

Illegal workers are criminals, those who hire them are criminals and those who aid-and-abet them are criminals.

Illegal aliens in America have NO rights. We are required by law to arrest and prosecute, deport them.

No, matter your political party affiliation, and setting aside your thoughts on issues. We all need to remember what it is to be an American Citizen. We need to make sure our elected representatives obey their Oath of Office and keep their Oath of Allegiance.

See http://tinyurl.com/2znnvl Know whom you are voting for.

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» Ah Yes, Posted by: fearn
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» Ya say ya want a Revolution Posted by: Baal_Labs
» Not so easy at all Posted by: Baal_Labs
Hatred towards all Illegals makes Hispanic Gangs more Powerful
Posted by: sarahk on Sep 21, 2007 10:16 AM   
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Gangs thrive in communites that can't trust the police. We need to be very careful about our attitudes towards Hispanic illegals. If we stupidly treat all illegals as criminals, it will only make the gangs more powerful. Imagine the illegal Hispanic woman who is raped by an illegal Hispanic gang member. Can she go to the police? No, because she would be deported. If she has a child who is a legal US citizen, then the child can't be deported with her and will be tossed to the mercy of the foster care systen. Meanwhile, a crazy rapist could be running around wreaking havoc while our court system is focused not on the crime committed but on the legal status of the victim. Her family could be torn apart and her life turned upside down if she reports the crime against her. If you were in her place, you would also make the intelligent choice of not reporting the rape.
If our legal system does not make a distinction between the illegal victim and the illegal criminal, than the illegal criminal gets a huge playing field of potential victims who can't seek justice.
Hispanic gangs, like any other gang, commit most of their crimes against illegal Hispanics because they know intimately how vunerable this group is to hatred and abuse from the mainstream of our society.
In our past history, discriminatory attitudes in the legal system and mainstream society towards the Irish and the Italian helped fuel gangs in their communities. If any of your family were Irish or Italian immigrants, you actually have a history in the US that is very similar to the experience of Hispanic immigrants of today--keep in mind that your immigrant grandparents or great grandparents were not considered "white." They also were scared, rightly so, of the police and also of the gangs that ruled their communites.
It will be interesting to see if we are smart enough to learn from our history.

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» Hysteria Posted by: karma_ran_over_dogma
» RE: Hysteria Posted by: Joshua Holland
Here we go again . . .
Posted by: MAD on Sep 21, 2007 10:19 AM   
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Yet another extreme left article that attempts to shame moderate liberals by playing on their fear of being seen as xenophobic, racist, hateful and unsympathetic by the wider PC crowd. It's the "if you're not with us, then you burn crosses" method.

This tactic is tried and true and surprisingly effective at making those who disagree with illegal immigration feel like a lower form of life. Variations of this argument include:

a) Employing amusing euphemisms like "undocumented worker" (wink, wink, Josh) instead of using the more accurate term "illegal immigrant".

b) Pointing out that Mexicans are worse off than Americans, and therefore, necessarily have the right to enter America any way they damn well please. Forget that America is going down the tubes and will soon be a 3rd world country herself.

c) That illegal immigrants do EVERYTHING for you short of wiping your ass so the more the merrier. The problem with this line of reasoning is that illegal immigrants actually drive down wages, and therefore, create an environment where only more illegal aliens will satisfy the economic circumstances. It's a lovely race to the bottom of the wage scale.

d) Using titles like this:
"Bush's Looming Immigration Crackdown a Painful Exercise in Futility"
It's useless, folks!! Might as well just accept an open border policy as NOTHING will improve the situation. Let's just accept that status quo and get on with the business of driving down wages a little further.

All of you who disagree are:

a) Baby killers
b) Klansmen
c) Adolf Hitler

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» Ah, the article in your head ... Posted by: Joshua Holland
» No, perfectly good sarcasm Posted by: Constitutionalist75
» How come I ain't laughing... Posted by: sausage
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The New Scapegoats
Posted by: sofla100 on Sep 21, 2007 12:13 PM   
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Joshua, I agree with you and thank you for writing this article. In response to some of the above comments, if wages are too low in America, why are illegal immigrants being blamed? Official unemployment figures are low, only at 5.5% or so, yet minimum wage does not go up (or just barely). It's called Republican, right-wing idiot-ology and "free trade." Why blame illegal immigrants? In most cases, "illegal immigrants" have taken the jobs Americans don't want anyway. There is also no evidence that they commit very many crimes in America, certainly no more and probably far less than the average "American." It seems, we in America however, are increasingly in need of a scapegoat Joshua. Our right wing President committed America to a foolish endeavor in Iraq and he also has no domestic successes, what an opportunity this will present for some new photo-ops and "Mission Accomplished" banners. Also, furthermore, if trade is going to be "free," isn't it a contradiction not to allow labor to be "free." Lastly, we should improve conditions in Mexico. Virtually nobody is running across the open Canadian border into the USA nor "illegally" immigrating from Western europe. Why? The living standards and society are better off there than in the USA. It's only from the very poor countries like Mexico that "illegal immigration" is a problem. Thank's again for the article Joshua.

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Good article. Here is the financial end of the stick:
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Sep 21, 2007 1:23 PM   
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One initial point. Apparently, more entire families are migrating north due to the poor economic situation in Mexico brought on by the economic warfare being practiced under the guise of NAFTA. That can account for the lower rate of southward money transfer.

Second initial point: Western Union and the other money-transfer corporations have been fleecing immigrants for decades. You might want to check out the boycott Western Union movement Arabs and Latinos are both fed up with the ripoffs.

Main point: the real issue is the free flow of capital across the Mexican border. That's what economic colonization is all about. Take the corn market in Mexico - Cargill and ADM have been dumping their subsidized US corn in Mexico for a good decade, which ended up pushing Mexican farmers off their land. Don't kid yourself - this is a deliberate strategy, known to insiders as giving the market a good sweating. Big corps can afford to lose money for a decade in order to establish market position - a trick that goes all the way back to Rockefeller's strategy to establish a monopoly position for Standard Oil in the late 1800's.

Once the market is cornered, the prices are jacked up. Now, the local Mexican markets are forced to pay and pay and pay, as they have no alternative suppliers. Meanwhile, the corporate PR apparatus swings into action and tries to blame the cost increase on 'ethanol production', a crock that clueless leftists pick up and spread, aided by fossil fuel PR experts who don't want to see ethanol capture any of their market share. Big Ag doesn't really want to step on the toes of Big Oil, and they're both owned by Big Finance - just a couple of sharks eyeing one another and salivating over a juicy fish.

Now, for the critical backflow engineered by NAFTA that noone talks about: the capital from Mexican corn sales is allowed to flow back into Cargill and ADM coffers in the US without restriction or taxation (well, probably most if it ends up in offshore tax havens in the Caymans, to tell the truth).

Seriously - that's the full circle that NAFTA was specifically set up to promote. Surge in, surge out, leaving devastation in your wake. Antonia Juhasz spelled it out in her book, "The Bush Agenda: Invading the World, One Economy at a Time".

Good article.

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Fight for your rights
Posted by: YogiBear on Sep 21, 2007 2:38 PM   
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Meanwhile, the "pull" side of America's immigrant labor market can only be addressed by protecting American jobs -- by guaranteeing workers the right to organize, a livable wage and fair benefits. That's not on the radars of either the White House or the right-wing immigration hardliners in Congress, but without it, there will remain millions of jobs that Americans won't do -- not because they lack a strong work ethic, but because many of those jobs that are now being taken by immigrants are dangerous or demeaning and pay crap wages.

Thank you for being honest, Josh.

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Cheap labor
Posted by: mare on Sep 21, 2007 3:01 PM   
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We've been hearing about the illegal immigration for years now and nothing changes. The government doesn't have sense enough to know how to deal with the reason behind all these ills in our country. Yet the average citizen knows! But what good is it going to do anyone as long as politicians don't have the wisdom to run things.
Maybe we should just buy Mexico....maybe all of South America and see what happens then! Can't make things worse can it? No, I'm not being facetious!
I'm a law abiding citizen and expect everyone else to be, so there's NEVER any justification for breaking the law! There are other people around the world who want to emmigrate to the US but they have to go through the process and it sometimes takes years. Why should it be different for those south of the border? I'm not saying do away with migrant workers who are here legally, but more needs to be done to stem the tide of illegals. Our tax dollars are paying for all the fall-out!

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» RE: Cheap labor across a phony border Posted by: Constitutionalist75
» Buy it all Posted by: Baal_Labs
the wet dream of a certain leftist element
Posted by: zooeyhall on Sep 21, 2007 8:50 PM   
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The Left and Progressives are really "missing the boat" on the subject of ILLEGAL aliens.

This is what causes the alienation of a large part of the people (Independents, middle-of-the-road voters) who could be our allies.

There are significant and fundamental social, economic, and legal reasons for the opposing a flood of illegal aliens. However those who mention these reasons are immediately dismissed as racist or worse.

Mr. Holland and others of his ilk have some strange fantasy about everyone holding hands and singing "We are the World". Unfortunately the problem of massive influx of illegal aliens into the US is much more complicated than that. But you couldn't and won't be allowed to explain it to Mr. Holland.

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» RE: the wet dream of a certain leftist element Posted by: Constitutionalist75
The History of American Immigration
Posted by: DrGeneNelson on Sep 22, 2007 4:57 AM   
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It appears that the writer, Joshua Holland believes that if the basic economic law of supply and demand does not apply to U.S. labor markets. WRONG!

As most any current job seeker will inform you, the things that are scarce across all skill levels are jobs that pay a decent wage are difficult to find. Employer discrimination against hiring experienced American citizens is rampant.

American wage earners backs are "against the wall" as a consequence of economic elite's promotion of immigration (legal and illegal) since 1965. To learn what has happened in the past, please google on the two phrases "Great Depression" and "forced repatriation." (315 links on September 22, 2007) You will see that since 1776, American citizens have rebelled against wave after wave of immigration forced upon them. The picture is not pretty, however. See the prescient Atlantic Monthly article from July, 2005 by James Fallows titled, "Countdown to a Meltdown." Fallows article Think unemployment riots, etc.

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» RE: The History of American Immigration Posted by: Constitutionalist75
HAH!
Posted by: TT5 on Sep 22, 2007 2:20 PM   
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You guys haven't seen NOTHING yet;=))

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