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GOP Powergrab Scheme in California Could Swing 2008 Election If It's Not Stopped

By Barbara Boxer, Huffington Post. Posted August 20, 2007.


Just when it seemed like the Democrats had a good chance of taking the White House, along comes a cynical power grab by GOP operatives to divvy up California's electoral votes based on the number of congressional districts each candidate wins.

Just when you thought it was safe to start thinking about having a Democrat in the White House, along comes a cynical power grab by Republican operatives. And unfortunately, it's happening right here in my own state of California.

If you haven't heard already, Republican strategists recently announced plans to begin raising money for a dangerous initiative that would radically change the way California apportions our electoral votes in presidential elections.

Rather than awarding all of California's electoral votes to the candidate that wins the popular vote -- the way it works in every single state except the small states of Maine and Nebraska -- their scheme would divvy up California's electoral votes based on the number of congressional districts each candidate wins.

What does this mean? Well, if the last few elections are any guide, rather than the Democratic nominee winning all 55 of California's electoral votes in 2008, this new partisan scheme could hand 20 of California's electoral votes to the Republican candidate and only 35 to the Democrat.

Don't get me wrong: After the 2000 and 2004 election debacles, I'm a strong advocate for election reform. But it's absolutely wrong for California to go it alone. It's just patently unfair for a large "blue" state like California to change our system for awarding electoral votes while other large states which trend "red" like Texas and Florida don't change their system at the same time.

This isn't reform -- this is a partisan power grab by Republican operatives in the Karl Rove tradition.

The initiative's sponsors claim that their plan will make the presidential candidates spend more time campaigning in California. That's nonsense. Their scheme won't make candidates come to California during a general election any more than they do now -- which is rarely, and only to raise money.

Just look at the 2006 election. In 2006, only 2 of California's 53 Congressional districts were truly in play. In the remaining 51 districts, the margin of victory for the winning Republican or Democratic House candidate was always more than 6% -- and in most cases, the difference was 20 or 30 percentage points or more.

The number of competitive districts in the 2008 election will not be much different than what we saw in 2006 -- so apportioning our electoral votes based on the winner of each Congressional district would clearly do nothing to bring the presidential candidates to California more often.

If America wants real election reform -- and I know I do -- we need to elect our President directly by the national popular vote, plain and simple. Then the candidate who receives the most votes in all 50 states and the District of Columbia would be elected President. That's the fair thing to do.

If you're interested in joining the fight against this power grab by Republican operatives, I hope you'll check out FairElectionReform.com. You don't have to live in California to get involved, because by skewing the results of the 2008 presidential election, this initiative clearly will affect all Americans.

Please join me in fighting for real, fair election reform -- and rejecting this cynical partisan power grab.

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Elections?
Posted by: chomsky on Aug 20, 2007 4:08 AM   
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You still believe there will be elections...? All their elections tricks have been exposed; and hopefuly the highly insecure electronic voting machines will be discarded.

So, if he wants to stay in power, Bush Jr will have to try to do what grandpa Prescott Bush failed to do in 1933... He now has the laws, the politicians, the judges, the attorneys, the private army... Last thing needed is the excuse.

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WHO's being cynical?
Posted by: CounterCorp on Aug 20, 2007 4:38 AM   
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Babs favors a winner-take-all system — which by any measure is profoundly unfair because it hands your votes (in the form of electors) to someone you didn't vote for — in California because the Democrats normally win the popular vote, and so they usually get all the electoral votes from the state.

She then cynically claims to support electoral reform — but only when so-called "red" (i.e., Republican) states agree to the same reforms as California.

Of course, Babs didn't similarly agree to enact California's nation-leading environmental regulations when "red" states agree to do so too, because she wants those reforms to actually be enacted, and knows that waiting for the other states to agree means the changes will never happen.

But on electoral reforms that threaten her party's chances to win (by actually apportioning electors according the votes), suddenly she wants everybody to have to agree on it first.

But she saves her last bit of cynicism — and hypocrisy — for the end, where she says that the president should be elected according to the popular vote; in other words, that we should get rid of the electoral college system altogether.

Excellent idea. And has Babs actually sponsored legislation to do so? No, of course not. Has she even talked in favor of doing so? No, not even that. Has she taken even one, single, meaningful step to explore the idea? No.

That's the supposedly "liberal" wing of the Democratic Party in action — all talk and the same old bollocks. I hate the Republicans, but I'll be supporting the ballot measure that Boxer opposes. She can't have it both ways: claiming to be for reform, but not actually doing anything to bring it about.

If she offered a competing proposal for electoral reform and took steps to see it passed, I might think otherwise. But as it stands now, she's just trying to maintain the existing flawed system because it stands to benefit her party. There's no "fair electoral reform" in that ...

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» RE: WHO's being cynical? Posted by: True2Blue
» Source Posted by: Joshua Holland
» HEAR HEAR!~!! FINALLY!!! Posted by: Aimleft
» I think cynical applies. Posted by: Iconoclast421
» Bet anything ... Posted by: Joshua Holland
» RE: WHO's being cynical? Posted by: LeftCoastProgressive
How about Champaign Reform, too.
Posted by: douglashoyt on Aug 20, 2007 5:17 AM   
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Yeah, Barbara is an opportunist just like every other politician.

The US Constitution gives power to the US Congress to make its own rules on Federal elections. They could change the process just for federal elections if they so chose.

The big item is to make all elections finaced by public money only. No private money, nada, ziltch.

No private champaign adds except paid for by the candidates.

No flyers, no posters, no phone calls, on TV, etc. etc. except paid for by the candidates who get their money from the treasury.

The likely result of public finacing would be the dissolution of the two major parties because all qualified candidates would have an equal voice.

We would not be held hostage to the corrupt private media, lobbiest, and 'special interests.'

In short, equal, open and free competition would prevail in the election process which is an ideal that the politicians are always talking about but don't mean.

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» RE: How about Champaign Reform, too. Posted by: Joshua Holland
I'll support initiative
Posted by: COC on Aug 20, 2007 6:01 AM   
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to give a third party candidate a chance. We already see what we get with the top Dem contenders. There has been much discussion about why they are no different than the Rethugs. The Dems blew it by financing the war and not moving to hold the administration accountable. Screw em.

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People Power Vs. Money Power.
Posted by: jhecht on Aug 20, 2007 6:36 AM   
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Check out this excellent article by David Sirota:
http://www.alternet.org/story/45066/

The real issue is plutocracy vs. democracy. There are plenty of Democrats serving Big Money interests, instead of the needs of the voters who elected them - and even more Republicans who do the same.

I feel that breaking up a state's electoral votes by district is actually a good start on dismantling some some the built-in obstacles to REAL democratic government here.

If Florida had been split up in 2000, or Ohio in 2004, the Republicans might not have been able to steal enough votes to swing those Presidential elections. Getting rid of the Electoral College altogether is an even better idea...

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Only a good idea with a threshold requirement
Posted by: brunowe on Aug 20, 2007 7:13 AM   
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For Republicans to push through this idea just for California is a cynical grab for electoral votes. Any fair approach to this idea would have a proviso that it would only kick in when states having a certain total of electoral votes also have it.

Regarding just getting rid of the Electoral College, it's a good idea but there are too many states that would lose out for it to ever get ratified. There are 29 states that have a larger percentage of electoral votes than of population (albeit it some cases, not by much). Considering that you need 38 states to ratify, I think we're stuck with the Electoral College for the forseeable future.

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I support the interstate compact
Posted by: chaoslegs on Aug 20, 2007 7:46 AM   
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that would bind states that agree to assign their electoral votes to the popular vote winner, and this requirement only kicks in when states with enough electoral votes to determine the winner join the compact. The beauty of this is there is no constitutional amendment to pass.

I would also like to see states take up the Iowa model of redistricting. No gerrymandering here.

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» Iowa Posted by: brunowe
Overconfidence
Posted by: defrag on Aug 20, 2007 7:52 AM   
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Just when it seemed like the Democrats had a good chance of taking the White House

Hillary vs. Huckabee, Huckabee wins easily.
Obama vs. Romney, Romney squeaks thru.

I'm hard pressed to imagine a scenario where a Democrat actually pulls it off, unless we are smart enough to nominate Edwards. Looks like that's not gonna happen.

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I hear that too many CA Democrats cave in to Arnold all too often just like
Posted by: maxpayne on Aug 20, 2007 8:33 AM   
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the DC Dems are doing in DC when it comes to just about any issue. By the way, Ms. Boxer, your voting YEA on NAFTA when you were in Congress back in 1993 is UNFORGIVABLE ! Sure, the rightwing will go to great lengths to powergrab but as long as the party is filled with Blue Dogs and DLC motherfuckers which you FAIL to purge, what's wrong with letting the GOP do it for you? That way, the people can have a real people's party. By the way, you're a US Senator so mind your own business because too many Democrats have allowed ILLEGAL WIRETAPPING to be "legal" !

-EXTREMELY PISSED OFF DEMOCRAT READY TO TURN INDIE !

P.S.: If Kucinich, Edwards(though some doubts about him) or even Gravel doesn't make it, I'm going to vote 3rd party even if it means 4 or 8 more years of GOP in the White House.

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All For It!
Posted by: shinseiji on Aug 20, 2007 9:51 AM   
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Dividing up the electoral vote by congressional district would obviously be far more representational that the present anachronism. So it is to be supported no matter who proposes it. Implementing it in Cal would be a big breakthrough in spreading this around the country.

Boxers' naked cynicism once again displays the deep contempt they hold for their (liberal and left) followers, presumed as so much sheep to be herded by generating fake panics like this. Now if the left would stop hating and loathing itself as it does, they might wake up this usage by the Democratic Party tops.

Meanwhile Boxer, what are the Democrats doing about the really important issues, such as:
- the surveillance act
- military commissions act
- unending Iraq occupation
- obvious war moves against Iran
- massive US arms sales throuought the M.E.
- the never ending crisis in health care

Answer: Supporting the Republicans every step of the way, by doing nothing.

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» Why Not? Posted by: Axiom69
people will do their part if Democrats finally do theirs
Posted by: yurbud on Aug 20, 2007 9:56 AM   
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I am glad to see one of my senators, Barbara Boxer, taking this issue seriously.

For too long, on issue after issue, elected Democrats and the Democratic party in California have mirrored the capitulation and flat-footedness of the national Democrats.

Despite having an overwhelmingly Democratic majority in the state, the Democrats allowed a GOP sponsored measure to pass that requires a super-majority to pass a budget, effectively giving the Republican minority veto power.

When the GOP engineered the recall election that installed Schwarzenegger, the Democrats failed to make it clear that Republican privatization and deregulation policies create the energy crisis that allowed power companies to blackmail the state for the $10 billion that created the state deficit which was the excuse for the recall, nor did they show Arnold's connection to those energy pirates.

When we had a secretary of state, Kevin Shelley, who caught the electronic voting machine companies rigging the machines red-handed, and he was being mercilessly attacked in the press and chased out of office, they uttered barely a peep.

Then they let Arnold appoint a replacement who was a shill for the rigged machines, despite pleas from activists that they leave the position vacant and have the assistant sec. of state run the office as had been done in the past.

When they had a chance to remove Arnold in a regular election, they did not recruit a candidate with the name recognition to beat him, then they only half-heartedly backed the candidate they did put up.

Barbara, I believe your heart is in the right place, but too often, the people have done their part and the party and our elected leaders from Nancy Pelosi, to Harry Reid, to our last presidential candidate John Kerry have failed to fight or better yet go on the offensive and set the agenda.

Instead, they have fought with all the ferocity appropriate for arguing for choosing a state butterfly, not for our civil rights, democracy, the lives of our troops, and our reputation in the world. They have made a token effort, then "graciously" capitulated.

For too long, the Democrats have played the Washington Generals to the GOP's Harlem Globetrotters.

Barbara, please tell the party in the state and in DC to do their jobs or they will be replaced, either by progressive Democrats in the primaries, or by third parties in the general election.

The recent catastrophic failure of the GOP should make them the more likely party to go the way of the Whigs, but the Democrats seem to be trying awfully hard to beat them to the dustbin of history.

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Let's Stop Being So Naive
Posted by: shinseiji on Aug 20, 2007 10:20 AM   
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"The recent catastrophic failure of the GOP should make them the more likely party to go the way of the Whigs, but the Democrats seem to be trying awfully hard to beat them to the dustbin of history."

That is because the Democrats are trying to *save* the Republicans "from themselves" if you will. They will never try to actually destroy the Republicans. The reverse is also true. These two parties spring from the same historical ideological root, they are like oxygen to each other. If one dies, so too will the other.

Think about it: How will the Democrats bind the left to itself without the Republicans? Without the Republicans, why would anyone progressive support the Democrats anymore?

The result is that the whole regime of the two parties is slowing dying right before our eyes. The is what the institution of a Presidental dictatorship is all about, and it won't be reversed by a President Hillary or any other "electable" (i.e. neocon) Democrat. They are all wannbee neocon dictators now.

As for this particular issue, see my post above. It is typical of the Democrats to appear to "stand tall" on non-issues - who would NOT agree that this would be a better system of representation? - that they know aren't going to go anywhere. Meanwhile they take a pass on the real burning issues of the day. Why? Because they obviously *support* these regressive measures that are moving us towards an open dictatorship.

Boxers' position on this is *reactionary*, not progressive!

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Californians Unite!!!
Posted by: MountainMike on Aug 20, 2007 10:29 AM   
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Our state Republicans can't win like all other Republicans win in large states, by getting the most votes, so they immediately turn to a Karl Rove type BS strategy to weasel around the rules. I live in California and I don't think this plan has a chance. The hypocrisy is blatant, as other large states that have voted Republican are not changing or being pressured to change.

We currently have a Democratic majority in the state legislature. If the Republicans want to have more control, they need to do something intelligent to attract votes, such as break from robotic party support for the Bush quagmire and his relentless attack on citizen constitutional rights.

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Methods of GOP Illegal according to US Constitution.
Posted by: yellow on Aug 20, 2007 10:55 AM   
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Article II, section I of the US Constitution clearly stipulates that the selection of electors is up to the State Legislatures "...in such a manner as the Legislature thereof may direct..." The ballot initiative violates this provision and is thus vulnerable on legal grounds. Someone should legally challenge the GOP on this matter.

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Reform is needed
Posted by: Axiom69 on Aug 20, 2007 11:02 AM   
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Would this even mentioned here if say Democrats were trying to get some of Texas' electoral college votes? Splitting up the votes by congressional district versus the winner take all system we currently have is a good idea. It should however be done nation wide. That would require the candidates to appeal to a much broader spectrum of America instead of appealing to just a few "powerhouse states" like New York or California. Doing away with the Electoral College is not the answer either. If we went with just the popular vote then candidates would only campaign in the large population centers on the east and west coasts and those people in the middle would never be heard. Which is why the electoral college was put in place to begin with.

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Don't you All see? This is the beginning of the end of our REPUBLIC!!
Posted by: sphoenix on Aug 20, 2007 11:09 AM   
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Boxer is advocating that the president be elected by a popular majority...thereby bypassing the Electoral system.

This signals the change from a Republic based system to a Democracy based system. The danger becomes obvious when all you need is a 51% majority to elect someone. This is what our forefathers tried to prevent....the possibility of MOB RULE. They wrote the Constitution on purpose to prevent a majority from trampling the rights of those in the minority...whatever that minority happened to be.

If this starts, I fear that there is nothing that will stop it until our country is solidly in the hands of the mob with the money. Because with the way things are already set up...that is the last thing THEY will need to pass the rest of the laws that will enslave those of us that love freedom. They will frighten the majority into letting them pass laws against those of us who don't believe the way they do. We will be marginalized at least, lynched at worst.

This is a dark cloud beginning to cover our land...is there any hope that our REPUBLIC can be saved?

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» Turned into?!?! Posted by: brunowe
» RE: Turned into?!?! Posted by: MT512
» RE: Turned into?!?! Posted by: sphoenix
Stealing California
Posted by: koolwoman on Aug 20, 2007 1:18 PM   
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Barbara Boxer is right. If the rules are to change, all states must change at the same time. This one smells like Karl Rove. although he is out of the White House. he will be available when the Repubs need a special scheme cooked up. Rove is like a rattlesnake that you thought you had killed, but everytime you turn around, he is still there. Rattlesnakes have no conscience, they poison and destroy anyone who gets in their way. Will this nightmare of a administration never end?

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Nice try, now go outside and play
Posted by: eddie torres on Aug 20, 2007 1:45 PM   
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How about a little "grownup" electoral reform:

- national holiday for elections
- national redistricting by independent panels
- public finance of election campaigns
- standardized rules & regs for national elections
- paper trail for election machines
- elimination of corporate citizenship
- elimination of registered lobbyists

Boxer knows the current electoral system suits Democrats just as much as it suits Republicans.

In fact, the Republican proportional distribution proposition will be matched with a corresponding Democratic "status quo" proposition which will offer a few token populist cookies - and siphon off enough votes to ensure that both propositions fail. Which will leave the electoral system exactly where it is today: working just fine for those who count.

Maybe another decade in the wilderness will reignite the mainstream Dems' commitment to fairness?

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National presidential election invites massive fraud
Posted by: ScottP on Aug 20, 2007 3:49 PM   
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The state of Georgia is 100% Diebold electronic machines with no meaningful audit system. The result from the election officials/Diebold cannot be challenged because the machines were designed to leave no trace of the actual votes, only the totals at the end are available. And so what is to stop Georgia from declaring a 100% turnout, 100% GOP, if they think that's what they need to neutralize the California voters? And what's to stop other corrupt states from padding their results as well to increase their influence? A pure vote count is a way to reward corruption.

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National or not at all!
Posted by: Slmncty on Aug 20, 2007 11:27 PM   
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Those here being critical of the Senator have not followed her work. From the fight to prevent republicans from lowering Calif. food safety standards, to brokering a deal, {where a large employer was going to close down} that keep those jobs in Calif. Health,safety,environment etc. the Senator has been there. This is ROVE divide and divert. If it is not national it is FLORIDA,NEW HAMPSHIRE,OHIO,SAN DIEGO all over again!

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Does the election reforms is sufficient for making difference ?
Posted by: viewer on Aug 21, 2007 1:10 AM   
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It still had difficulty in understanding that any electoral reform help at all in this age of absolute power by brutal few. Florida in 2000 and ohio in 2004 , every existing election law were voilated and public criticism was effectively silenced . Is this entire reform process is only for public consumption to keep people sleeping with out seeing bigger picture ?. This is evident with the ruthlessness with which crimes are committed and how blatantly law of the land is violated with no public outcry. After years of reform, what is the guarantee that it is useful at all?.
In early 1950's , In an opinion poll, Germans felt that their Best historical time is during Nazi Era. Despite the breach of every human law which lead to the horror of 50 million deaths, fate of concentration camps , complete devastation and split of the country , germans felt Nazi Era as the best . Now we know, it is the magic of propaganada. During that time, No body could even predicted what is in future , even though some open minded germans protested, rationalised the apparent random laws of convienance. We see the same Now. Billions go missing, suicidal wars are rubbed on people, economy dwindling, day after day new scandals come up with increasing evil plans , the same set of people are vilified with absolute no protest. so what could be next?.
source seems to be the media , which is supposed to be the eye and ears of the general society seems to what is called a process PONERISATION ( http://tinyurl.com/2s8r4h ) . Unless we understand the process of ponerisation, our hope of making any positive difference may not be in right footing.

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The ONLY Progressive Position on this Issue is Oppose the Initiative. Support it? You're a Bushie!!
Posted by: yellow on Aug 21, 2007 9:32 AM   
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The objective consequence of supporting this absolutely disasterous and fraudulent initiative, probably cooked by Rove, is to hand the Republicans the state of California by handing them 35% of the electoral votes they need to win a close national election. It will not bring electoral reform or change for voters but only hand the 2008 election to the Republicans. As a recent New Yorker article explains,

"The California Initiative flunks even the categorical-imperative test. Imagine, as a thought experiment, that all states were to adopt this 'reform' at once. Electoral votes would still be winner take all except by congressional district rather than by state. Instead of ten battleground states and forty spectator states, we'd have thirty five battleground districts and four hundred spectator districts. The red/blue map would be more mottled, and in some states more people would get to see campaign commercials, because media markets usually take in more than one district. But congressional districts are as gerrymandered as human ingenuity and computer power can make them. The electoral-vote result in ninety percent of the country would still be a foregone conclusion, no matter how close the race."

The initiative is a Republican power grab pure and simple. And if successful, will be one in which they will also handily escape formerly leveled accusations of fraud.

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are you kidding?
Posted by: mountainfire on Aug 21, 2007 11:50 PM   
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I really hope you don't seriously support the election of presidents through the popular vote. That's a twisted "I wish Gore had been elected" idea. We don't have a democracy, we have a republic. The popular vote scheme is a blatant attempt to secure more liberal votes. There will always be more people in cities and they will always tend to vote liberal. So in other words, the rural people get shafted because they had less people. We have a Senate because our country needs equal representation for all.

True reform would be to use the proposed California legislation and implement it federally. That way, every district has a voice.

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who's surprised?
Posted by: uncleeddie on Aug 23, 2007 12:49 PM   
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You Americans are completely screwed. Bad enough you don't have any real democracy but instead a choice between 2 corporate parties or the occasional rich independent but even that process is often subverted. Change the rules, exclude entire groups (i.e. ex cons), crooked electronic machines, no paper trail, voter registration organizers harassed, gerrymandering, unlimited corporate influence, corporate media framing the debate and who can debate, and on and on it goes. An effort to make a large democratic state divvy up some electoral votes to the GOP hardly seems surprising.

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