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The Myths of World War II

By Sean Gonsalves, AlterNet. Posted August 13, 2007.


PBS will soon air a new documentary by Ken Burns about World War II. Let's hope it's an honest discussion of the War, without all the myths.
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Back in April, the Library of Congress Veterans History Project and the Public Broadcasting Service announced a collaborative initiative to collect war stories, which will include Ken Burns' new film, The War, slated to air on September 23.

Given Burns' masterful look back on the two best cultural gifts America has ever given the world -- jazz and baseball -- I'm looking forward to his soon-to-be-released documentary.

But when I checked the Veterans History Project home page, I got a little worried when I read: "Throughout 2007, PBS stations all over the country will be initiating outreach programs designed to raise awareness of World War II and the need for its veterans and civilian workers to tell their stories for the record."

Raise awareness of World War II? How could anyone in America who hasn't been in a coma since Tom Brokaw coined the term "Greatest Generation" not be aware of World War II?

Given the huge success and popularity of WWII movies like Saving Private Ryan and all of the World War II dominated national commemorations (Memorial Day, Veterans Day, Pearl Harbor Day etc.), how much more aware can people be?

Indeed, it's important for "veterans and civilian workers to tell their stories for the record" -- honest stories; not tales that perpetuate a war mythology that has blinded U.S. war planners ever since we won the "Good War."

One soldier's story I hope is represented in Burns' project is the kind offered by WWII vet Edward W. Wood Jr. in a book called Worshipping the Myths of World War II: Reflections on America's Dedication to War.

It's not too late to add it to your summer reading list -- and not just for history's sake but for the insight it provides into our present conflaguration.

"The philosophy of the way to fight terrorism or to halt rogue states from possessing the atomic bomb rests squarely on the four Myths of World War II," Wood writes, sure to raise the hackles of those who consider the prevailing mythology as sacred.

Wood's four myths: 1) The Good War. 2) The Greatest Generation. 3) We Won World War II Largely on Our Own. And 4), When Evil Lies in Others, War Is the Means to Justice."

The Good War myth is exposed as such by the historical record, testifying of the mass killing of innocents. What's good about that? A necessary war, perhaps. But "good?" That's sick.

The Greatest Generation myth is disproved, Wood argues, in considering that the same generation who defeated Nazi and Japanese imperialism "also helped defeat the hope for peace that swept the world at the end of World War II," largely through the telling of "heroic" stories while staying relatively silent about war's dark side, setting up future generations to experience similar horrors.

"The story told in the mainline media explains why it was so easy for America to accept the idea of a 'war on terror.' Once again, we would storm the beaches of Normandy ... (and) bomb the people of Japan. Our policies of preemption, our war with Iraq are rooted in a war now sixty years past. By believing the Myths of World War II as the truth of war we have but created another monstrosity, resembling our failure in Vietnam, another war that will only cripple those who fight it, harm our armed forces, erode our reputation throughout the world, and, this time, turn much of the world against us."

The We Won the War Largely on Our Own myth is much easier to lay bare when you consider the huge contributions of money and blood made by Russia and China. And finally, there's Wood's When Evil Lies in Others, War Is the Means to Justice myth. That's probably the most difficult myth to pierce, Wood acknowledges. Whether his argument questioning the way we think about "enemies" and international cooperation are ultimately convincing is in direct correlation with how familiar (and honest) the reader is with American history and its intimate relationship to "war and atrocities" -- the "gray area" beyond we're-the-good-guys-and-they're-the-bad-guys.

Wouldn't it be interesting to have an honest discussion about World War II, without all the myths? Come on, Ken. I'm counting on you. But, if we can't get it from Burns and PBS, there's always veterans like Wood, not so much interested in the myths but in the God's-honest-truth.

Editor's Note: Read more about the controversy with the Latino community surrounding Ken Burns' documentary here and here.

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Syndicated columnist Sean Gonsalves is an assistant news editor with the Cape Cod Times. He can be reached at sgonsalves@capecodonline.com

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On Myths of WWII
Posted by: Fantasyartist on Aug 14, 2007 3:23 AM   
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Personally I think that the hype surrounding the "Greatest Generation" deserves to be blown away. Even taking into consideration the undoubted bravery of soldiers, marines, sailors and aircrew, I am dubious- firstly unlike my own Great Britain( never mind occupied Europe including the USSR), America got little in the way of suffering(excluding Pearl Harbor).
How many Americans realise that in the US military of WWII, Jim Crow was a fully fledged member ( even blood was segregated by race)? Secondly, the alliance with "Uncle Joe" Stalin( according to allied propaganda, a bit rough around the edges but a good egg basically- never mind being a faithful ally of the Third Reich until June 22, 1941) meant that the Baltic States and Eastern Europe was sold down the river !

No, the hype over WWII's "Greatest Generation" deserves to be debunked!

Terry

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» RE: On Myths of WWII Posted by: mikelz
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» The Worse Generation Posted by: hole11
Studs Terkel got there first with "The Good War" (in quotes)
Posted by: Suzon on Aug 14, 2007 4:14 AM   
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if it's all about telling the stories of people who were there.

Here's a suggestion for the truth that should replace the four myths: In war, soldiers see and do terrible things. This was certainly true in WWII according to the tales told to Terkel, but may be even more true in Iraq today.

Saddam's death by hanging was not equal to his culpability. Neither can the impreachment or imprisonment of Bush and his accomplices and mentors come anywhere close to their culpability.

But, as with the Nuremberg trials, the importance of putting Bush and the rest of the perpetrators on trial, would be to explain to the people what was done in their name.

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Anti-War Nonsense
Posted by: Lloyd Miller on Aug 14, 2007 4:45 AM   
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"We also ask our readers to refrain from responding to posts by people who only want to derail the conversation with conservative talking points. Please report these comments; do not respond."

Reply---- Oh, I see, "we" have rational discussions! "You" regurgitate "talking points". . . Please!

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» RE: Anti-War Nonsense Posted by: VannaLaRoche
...not be aware of World War II?
Posted by: mikelz on Aug 14, 2007 5:56 AM   
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I am a baby boomer - born 1948. My father and five uncles served in WWII. I grew up amidst war related memorabilia, stories and countless TV programs. It became personal to me.

That you know about the 'greatest generation' does not make it true for the entire country. It's a little like the Iraq war. Most people do not have 'a dog in that fight.' It's not personal to most Americans.

I talk to my college student daughter and her friends. They don't even know anything about Vietnam. Most of them react to Korean War references with confused expressions.

Awareness of WWII is important. We are already repeating the mistakes of Korea and Vietnam.

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In retrospect.........
Posted by: Basenjis on Aug 14, 2007 6:45 AM   
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I will probably not watch Ken Burns' new production of the "Good War," although I am sure it will be well done. It has been over sixty years since the end of WWII and I have yet to be able to sit through a movie or read a book about what researchers now say about that war although I have tried many times. To have lived through those times, to have suffered great personal loss, and to suspect years later that the loss of so many lives was not due to quite the noble causes that we were told at the time, is just too painful.

To stand in Hiroshima at Ground Zero and to walk through that museum of manmade horrors , is to see that what was once done in our name does nothing to minimize personal loss, but it does put it into perspective. I am convinced that war is insanity and that those who make war and dream up and promote the use of those incredibly evil weapons, or even threaten to use them, are unworthy to be called members of the human race.

If there is any truth to the belief that those young soldiers who fought in that war were members of "the greatest generation," it was due, not to their actions in a war for freedom and democracy, but to their sincere belief that they were fighting to defend their nation and protect their families. That, indeed, was a noble cause. We are not likely to have another generation so innocent again.

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» RE: In retrospect......... Posted by: AMERICAN VETERAN
» RE: In retrospect......... Posted by: outsideagitator
Honest discussion! No Way
Posted by: Tombo on Aug 14, 2007 7:40 AM   
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the only reason they are distributing the show at this time is to renew the American populace's faith that war actually solves problems by perpetuating the myth of the "good war" and that we need armed forces to defend right around the world.

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War Is A Racket
Posted by: magistre on Aug 14, 2007 9:44 AM   
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As comment on the article and the comments see General Smedely Butler. This war as was WW2 is as much a money making proposition first and foremost as any other war.

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Odd.
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Aug 14, 2007 10:51 AM   
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...who defeated Nazi and Japanese imperialism "also helped defeat the hope for peace that swept the world at the end of World War II," largely through the telling of "heroic" stories while staying relatively silent about war's dark side, setting up future generations to experience similar horrors.

Very, very seldom did I ever hear any of the U.S. veterans of WWII talk about what they did and whom they had killed, heroically or otherwise. Most of the WWII vets I've talked to have either been tight-lipped about their experiences, or--among themselves--will be collectively thankful they lived to be old men, vaguely referencing the theaters in which they served.

That's my experience, so I'd like to add the "myth" that any significant majority of the folks who fought these bloody fights came back swaggering and bragging about their heroism.

I believe that particular romanticism smacks of Hollywood branding, all rights reserved, (tm) and the rest...

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» RE: Odd. Posted by: Basenjis
The "war brings justice" myth is the worst.
Posted by: fool-on-the-hill on Aug 14, 2007 11:06 AM   
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War can NEVER "bring justice" --- though it can sometimes remove an insurmountable obstacle to justice. Hitler and the Third Reich had to be removed for Europe to recover its prior standards of culture and decency. But destroying Hitler did not ensure that result!

War is to "justice" what chemotherapy is to disease: it may be necessary sometimes. However, only a deranged physician would prescribe chemotherapy for anything other than life-threatening cancer; no one even marginally sane would try to use it for the flu.

But George W. Bush and his neo-con thugs use war like aspirin: a multi-purpose cure-all. The result is as predictable as if a mad doctor prescribed chemotherapy for a heart condition.

The real problem is that so many "Amuricans" think (if you could call it that) just like Bush. The United States is destroying itself.

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War Stories
Posted by: HslashK on Aug 14, 2007 11:30 AM   
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The only "Great War" vet I ever met said he stopped believing in god on the beaches of Gallipoli. My brother in law, who was Dutch, spent five years in a Japanese prisoner of war camp in the "Good War". The only story he could relate of whatever he experienced there, was of splitting the pages of their bible to use the paper to roll cigarettes. They called it "Holy Smoke". I have seen countless shattered and damaged human beings who fought in Vietnam and are still struggling with the consequences to this day. War is never "Great" or "Good". I believe that these labels can only be used by people who weren't there or by vets who have to gloss over and dress up the experience in order to justify and be Ok with it.

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Henry H. Greenwood
Posted by: Truelass on Aug 14, 2007 12:30 PM   
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I am a veteren of WW2 having served with the Canadian Forces. Please be honest in reporting that the German planned invasion of Britain was beaten back in the summer and fall of 1940 by the RAF at a very high price, the devastation British cities like Coventry, Hull, Glasgow, Liverpol, Manchester and many others and not to forget the bombing and fire bombing of London and the death of hundreds of thousands of British civilians and all this happened eighteen months before the United States enterd the war. Many allied veterens get a little tired of Hollywood style bragging about how the US won the war. On D-Day the Royal Marine Commandos came to the aid US Forces on the botched landing on Omaha Beach and this was even acknowledged when President G.W.Bush paid tribute to them on the 60th Anniversary of the D-Day landings. I was there on D-Day and the Americans did well but try to remember that the largest contingent of troops were from the British Commonwealth, Poland and France.

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» RE: Henry H. Greenwood Posted by: outsideagitator
frank69
Posted by: frank69 on Aug 14, 2007 3:03 PM   
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The Russians won WWII in Europe. The US won WWII in the Pacific and Japan.
There has never been a GOOD war or a JUST war. Wars are hell on people, both combatants and civilians. The bankers and the arms manufacturers are the REAL winners!

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5 uncles and me!
Posted by: bigdukesix101 on Aug 14, 2007 8:03 PM   
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I had 5 uncles, my father and his father (yep-grandpa in the Seabees)all in "The Big One" and 25 years later I served as a Vietnam era G.I. and you know what? Its all the same! We had the same guys just 25 years apart, the whiner, the coward, the war monger , the ladies man,dear john letters,and on and on. They were great, it was the GI bill that transformed them. We are not so bad either.

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Barbarians of Our Own Dark Ages?
Posted by: overtheages on Aug 14, 2007 9:08 PM   
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Barbarians of Our Own Dark Ages?
Debunking the Myth Behind the Nuclear Bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki

by Michael W. Stowell

"A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong gives it a superficial appearance of being right, and raises at first a formidable outcry in defense of custom."
-- Thomas Paine "Common Sense" 1776


On July 16, 1945, U.S. President Harry Truman, British Prime Minister Winston Churchill and the Soviet Union's Joseph Stalin met in Potsdam, Germany to discuss surrender terms for the Japanese and Russia's planned entry into the Pacific campaign. Stalin had received communications outlining a conditional surrender that would allow Japanese Emperor Hirohito to remain as a ceremonial functionary.

President Truman's private journal and correspondence written at the time of the bombings indicate that contrary to his public justification of the bombings as the only way to end the war without a costly invasion of Japan, Truman had already concluded that Japan was about to capitulate. Whether or not he was correct in this estimate of when the war would end, the fact that he held this view at the time he made his decision to use the atomic bombs is clearly set down in his own hand.

"I cannot speak for the others but it was ever present in my mind that it was important that we have an end to the war before the Russians came in...Neither the President nor I were anxious to have them (the Soviets) enter the war after we had learned of this successful (atomic) test." James Byrnes, Secretary of State 1945-47

"Mr. Byrnes did not argue that it was necessary to use the bomb against the cities of Japan in order to win the war...Mr. Byrnes view (was) that our possessing and demonstrating the bomb would make Russia more managable in Europe." Leo Szilard, Nuclear Physicist

"The use of the atomic bombs was precipitated by a desire to end the war in the Pacific by any means before Russia's participation. I'm sure if President Roosevelt had still been there, none of that would have been possible." Albert Einstein

According to Admiral William D. Leahy, Chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and President Truman's Chief of Staff: "The Japanese were already defeated and ready to surrender because of the effective sea blockade and the successful bombing with conventional weapons... In being the first to use it [the atomic bomb], we had adopted an ethical standard common to the barbarians of the Dark Ages."

In early 1946, Undersecretary of State Dean Acheson appointed a committee charged with drafting an international agreement to avert a nuclear arms race. Under the terms of the plan, the U.S. would stop making nuclear weapons, dismantle existing weapons, and transfer its nuclear materials to an international authority after the Soviet Union had agreed to an in-depth inspection and verification program. The Soviets were developing nuclear weapons and wanted dismantlement first and inspections later.

The disagreement has led to the largest and most dangerous military extravaganza the world has ever seen. The U.S. alone has spent approximately five trillion dollars on nuclear weapons.

(more) http://swans.com/library/art6/zig056.html

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I wonder...
Posted by: The Populist on Aug 15, 2007 12:13 PM   
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First, I thought you were Alternet'ssports writer!!??!!

But I wonder if the aforementioned mini-series will address Prescott Bush's roll in financing Hitler?

I wonder if it will discuss Japanese germ warfare on the Chinese.

I wonder if you think a segregated US Military fighting for freedom is one of the sickest jokes of all time?

A final question, 6 million Jews get killed and we give them Israel, 7 millions poles get killed and we give them to the Soviets? 20+millions Russians die and we leave them in Stalin's loving embrace? Stalin made Hitler look like a rookie!

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Not myths for me
Posted by: owlsliveintrees on Aug 15, 2007 12:55 PM   
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While I'm not exactly sure how the "Greatest Generation" undercut the hopes for world peace (one would imagine it was Stalin), anybody who knows jack about WWII knows that the European nations bore the brunt of the war, that civilians took it in the ass, and it's pretty obvious that one can't throw around words like "good" in the context of war. How about the myth of the informative column?

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» RE: Not myths for me Posted by: sg