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Are the Dead From the Minneapolis Bridge Collapse Victims of Conservative Ideology?

By Joshua Holland, AlterNet. Posted August 3, 2007.


After swallowing 30 years of small-government rhetoric, our infrastructure, once the pride of the developed world, is falling apart around us. We're reaping what we've sown.

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The tragic collapse this week of a stretch of I-35 spanning the Mississippi river in Minnesota was shocking but should come as no surprise. America's core infrastrucure has been falling apart in very visible ways during the past few years. It's a predictable outcome of the rise of "backlash" conservatism; we've swallowed 30 years of small-government rhetoric, and it's led us to a point in which our infrastructure, once the pride of the developed world, is falling apart around us. We're reaping what we've sown.

Minnesota's Republican governor, Tim Pawlenty, reacted to the disaster by calling a press conference and, with a steely determination worthy of Rudy Guiliani, lying to the American people. Pawlenty insisted that inspections in 2005 and 2006 had found no structural problems with the bridge. But the Minneapolis Star-Tribune reported that the bridge "was rated as 'structurally deficient' two years ago and possibly in need of replacement." The bridge was borderline -- with a 50 sufficiency rating; if a bridge scores less than 50, it needs to be replaced.

According to the Pioneer Press, the bridge's suspension system was supposed to receive extra attention with inspections every two years, but the last one had been performed in 2003.

The governor had every reason to obfuscate; in 2005, he vetoed a bipartisan transportation package that would have "put more than $8 billion into highways, city and county roads, and transit over the next decade." At the time, he was applauded by many Republicans for his staunch fiscal "conservatism."

It's too soon to say for sure what caused this latest disaster, but as Stephen Flynn wrote in Popular Mechanics, when all is said and done, "investigators will likely find that two factors contributed to its failure: age and heavy use." Those conditions are anything but isolated:

According to a report card released in 2005 by the American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE), 160,570 bridges, or just over one-quarter of the nation's 590,750 bridge inventory, were rated structurally deficient or functionally obsolete. The nation's bridges are being called upon to serve a population that has grown from 200 million to over 300 million since the time the first vehicles rolled across the I-35W bridge. Predictably that has translated into lots more cars.

It was the second U.S. bridge collapse this week -- a span in California fell the day before, with far fewer injuries and no loss of life. The tragedy occurred just weeks after an 80-year-old steam pipe in Manhattan blew up, killing one and injuring dozens more. A year earlier, a section of tunnel in Boston collapsed, killing a woman as she drove home. A year before that, hundreds of thousands of Americans became refugees after New Orleans' pitiable levees collapsed -- a graphic illustration of shortsighted public policy if ever there was one. The AFL-CIO estimates that more than one in four roads are in "less than good condition." Minnesota ranks low on their list, with about one in eight failing to make the grade.

It's all part of a larger picture. We have a crumbling power grid and are falling behind the rest of the world in broadband infrastructure. The American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE) talks of "congested highways, overflowing sewers and corroding bridges" that are "constant reminders of the looming crisis that jeopardizes our nation's prosperity and our quality of life." Every year the engineering society issues a report card grading 15 categories of America's once-premier infrastructure. In 2005, that "core" infrastructure collectively got a "D-," slightly worse than the "D" it received in 2000. Ironically, the nation's bridges received the highest score -- a "C" -- in 2005.


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Another good one, Joshua
Posted by: HeroesAll on Aug 3, 2007 12:25 AM   
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The drone of politicians bleating "lower taxes" is tiresome enough: the neglect of infrastructure is particularly stupid. Well, infrastructure, health care, social responsibilities, and so on: all the factors that go toward making a society, rather than a gang.

It's also part of the worship of the 'hidden hand of the market', since some people (largely Republicans and idiots) seem to believe that said hidden hand is all-powerful and perfect. Rather like a 20th century god.

Another instance you could have mentioned, Joshua, is the power failures in the north-east a couple of years ago. I can't remember exactly when, but I do recall the panic, because of course the first finger was pointed at terr'rists. I also seem to recall that life actually improved in some respects for some people, as neighbourhoods started to work together and organise to help each other.

in every other country, citizens understand that their society is as good as they make it, while many of ours seem to believe that we're a leading nation according to some divine plan and no amount of bone-headed governance and skewed priorities can ever change that fact.

Sadly, I hear this sort of nonsense frequently. America can do no wrong, and is best at everything, apparently, regardless of the evidence. It's a bit sad in some ways: at least England knew when their moment of glory was over, coming as it did after the devastation of World War II.

There is a little light over here, though. Our Prime Monster, John Howard The Weasel, is suffering a little in the polls (although alas he's never fallen as far as George Bush, probably because he's a more cunning politician).

And since we have an election coming up soon-ish, Howard and his government are splashing around the cash like toddlers in the bath. Sadly, it's not doing them much good: the electorate has become a bit blase about handouts, and they're now less than thrilled about Howard. One of his little tricks recently backfired, which gave me no end of joy: he announced money for a new hospital in a marginal seat (quelle surprise), and was instantly beseiged by all the other desperate hospitals clamoring for funding. He sent out his Health Minister to tell them there'd be no more money, of course, and everyone's a bit sour, given that the Howard government has done the same stupid "fiscal responsibility" aka "complete tight-arse except in marginal seats" act for years now. Our infrastructure is in much the same state as yours, and people have finally started to notice.

It's pretty basic stuff, though: governments are tasked with maintaining the smooth functioning of society, and that includes infrastructure. It ain't exciting, but it's necessary.

By the bye, how much has been spent so far on the Iraq war crime? Do the relatives of those who died think that the money has been better spent in Iraq than it could have been in America?

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» Try visiting sometime! Posted by: Conservasaurus
» Try thinking sometime! Posted by: HeroesAll
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» How dare you... Posted by: gregii
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» That's not a bad thing, you know... Posted by: karma_ran_over_dogma
» RE: it is a very bad thing Posted by: gregii
» Make that "TROLL ROADS" Posted by: hagwind
Conservative... or liberal?
Posted by: ahmlco on Aug 3, 2007 12:27 AM   
Current rating: 2    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Is it conservative ideology... or liberal? The article makes the case that the "Republicans" small-government ideology is to blame, and they failed to spend money on needed infrastructure. But what it fails to consider is what, exactly, did they spend their money on? Did they build bridges... or shelters? Did funds go to highways or social programs?

All governments have a budget and a finite tax base from which to draw it. The author seems to assume, however, that you can draw an endless supply of golden eggs from the public "goose" to spend as you wish. And if that doesn't work, well, we'll just cut the goose open to get even more.

But we all know the moral of that story, don't we?

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» RE: Conservative... or liberal? Posted by: richholland
» RE: Conservative... or liberal? Posted by: newtype_alpha
» RE: Conservative... or liberal? Posted by: Conservasaurus
» RE: Conservative... or liberal? Posted by: Joshua Holland
» RE: Conservative... or liberal? Posted by: Conservasaurus
» RE: Conservative... or liberal? Posted by: Joshua Holland
» RE: Conservative... or liberal? Posted by: Conservasaurus
» Robert Byrd Posted by: apophenia_monkey
» RE: Conservative... or liberal? Posted by: SatanicJamboree
"Creative" Destruction
Posted by: talkville on Aug 3, 2007 12:29 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Once again one sees capital's cyclical dogmas at work, as all that was previously produced is allowed to decay, thus making way for lucrative and profitable projects for finance to inject into "re-building" The loss of life is dutifully mourned and 'prayed' about and decried - these things happen after all.

This bridge, as I understand, is approximately 40 years old. It can only be hoped that a vigorous and sustained effort is made to obtain the documentation and paper-work as to those involved in the original construction and the work-orders and plans of those "outsourced" contractors who performed the work. Given the relatively short span of existence of this bridge, documentation should be readily available. It's time to hold those involved in the palpably shoddy construction of this bridge to account. And, as I understand from a report on news, Minnesota is among the HIGHEST in maintenance and public works provision. Condolences to those who lost family members, neighbors, friends in Minnesota.

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» Look at the FACTS, not propaganda. Posted by: albrechtkrausse
» RE: "Creative" Destruction Posted by: timebomb734
the result of propaganda
Posted by: richholland on Aug 3, 2007 1:20 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
in 1981 I visited Los Angeles for 3 monthes. Raised after World war II with the glory of the USA believing the All American Dream I was astonished to see the bad quality of the houses and high ways.

in 1989 I visited Praque and surroundings besides shabby houses many highways had a good quality.
And the people had free education and free health care.

In Europe and Australie we combine Capitalisme with Socialisme.
Capitalisme is evil and only works for the happy few. Socialisme doesnot work.

Is there any hope for the USA??????
Probably if you donot make wars and use the money for your country.

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» RE: the result of propaganda Posted by: talkville
» RE: the result of propaganda Posted by: hagwind
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» RE: the result of propaganda Posted by: Earthling
» RE: the result of propaganda Posted by: talkville
» RE: the result of propaganda... Posted by: Nedtheredhead
Reminds my of...
Posted by: TT5 on Aug 3, 2007 1:42 AM   
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Chernobyl

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» RE: eminds my of... Posted by: talkville
Yeah...
Posted by: adp3d on Aug 3, 2007 3:58 AM   
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There is going to be some major ass covering and finger pointing and I can hear complaints now from the GOP about the so called trial lawyers who line up to "cash in" and how we have to limit liability, blah blah...in the mean time the insurance companies in Louisana are drinking champagne with prospect of not having to pay out millions in claims. Sheesh, honestly I think they believe all they have to do is sit back and count the premiums as they roll in - and make sure the judges get their campaign contributions...

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Disintegrating Infrastructure
Posted by: shangrilalad on Aug 3, 2007 4:10 AM   
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Disintegrating Infrastructure

Conservative Ideology is the same as Mafia Ideology, it’s all about corruption and death. Both are criminal enterprises that prey on people, and it’s only the scope of the two enterprises that differ. The Mafia sells heroin and Conservatives sell endless war. War is where the BIG BUCKS are made. The Mafia sells euphoria, and Conservatives sell fear, both are destructive, but which is worse?

Collapsing bridges are the least of our Disintegrating Infrastructure, the collapsing standards of living for middleclass Americans is worse. Conservatives have been waging race and class wars for generations, with great success, and they have destroyed our national cohesion for profit and power. Our country and people are being cannibalized by vicious degenerates who greedily eat their own children. Something that even the Mafia doesn’t do.

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Iraq and the bridge
Posted by: reinaldok on Aug 3, 2007 4:54 AM   
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Do we really need some full blown commission of rocket scientists to explain to the 28% that still back the bushies that if we didn't continue to throw the billions and billions into
Iraq, we might have some cash left to attempt to fix up our decrepit basic installations?

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» RE: Iraq and the bridge Posted by: Pirate1
» OH PLEASE. Posted by: timebomb734
conservative impact
Posted by: nor cal surfer on Aug 3, 2007 5:05 AM   
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sadly ironic. The American Society of Civil Engineers estimates that it will take $1.6 trillion over the next five years to get the nation's roads, bridges, dams, water systems and airports into good condition (source: AP).

isn't that about what we will have sunk into Iraq before Bush is perp-flown to the Haque? we're already at a half trillion, matching the adjusted cost of the 13 year war in Viet Nam.

isn't that about what we could have earned by legallizing and taxing marijuana and prostitution in 2000?

isn't that what we could have allocated away from the Military-Industrial complex in an afternoon?

the proverbial forest has already been clear cut; the sheeple are shaded but by one tree: their ignorance.

(note to self: most reading this are the choir, not sheeple)

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» RE: conservative impact Posted by: ALANHESTER
Dope slap time
Posted by: PJT on Aug 3, 2007 5:11 AM   
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Excuse me: I thought the good citizens of the Twin Cities were about to have a big celebration to kick off their new one billion dollar sports stadium. Is that not true? If they can find the money to build a playground for multimillionaires and their friends to play in, what's the big problem about the bridge? Hmmmm? You can't blame this on on the Republicans. I blame this on the Average American Moron, which is to say the large majority of citizens of this country. Everybody has money for sixty-inch plasmas, Escalades, Belly Buster Burgers with hot wings on the side, Dunkin Donuts, breast enlargement, booty reduction, trips to Mickey Land, ride on mowers with the entertainment systems inside, you name it-- there's money for it. Every city needs four new sports stadiums, don't you think? Free roads? Public schools? Public transport? Universal health care? These are all commie pinko ideas. This is AMERICA. Get with the program and STOP WHINING. PJT

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» RE: Dope slap time Posted by: Ratskii
» RE: Twins Stadium Posted by: chaoslegs
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» RE: Dope slap time Posted by: peacemama
» Now slap the dope Posted by: gregii
» RE: Dope slap time Posted by: ALANHESTER
Epiphany
Posted by: Gravitas on Aug 3, 2007 5:14 AM   
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"in every other country, citizens understand that their society is as good as they make it, while many of ours seem to believe that we're a leading nation according to some divine plan."

This is a truly profound observation! I think I am going to use this quote (duly noted of course) as an essay question!

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» I loved this point, too. Posted by: porgygirl
» RE: I loved this point, too. Posted by: karma_ran_over_dogma
» RE: I loved this point, too. Posted by: phatkhat
» Bring back the trains! Posted by: dadux
» RE: piphany Posted by: bcgirl125
Nomenclature
Posted by: LMNOP on Aug 3, 2007 5:16 AM   
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Are the Dead From the Minneapolis Bridge Collapse Victims of Conservative Ideology?

Who isn't?

But note the use of the word "conservative". It could have been "Republican" or "neoconservative".

"Republican isn't the best word because the Democrats, though less so perhaps than the Republicans, are conservatives, too, and, if not actively complicit, they're at least passively guilty as well for doing nothing and for standing for nothing.

"Neocon" is probably the best word. I don't mind derogating the word "conservative, but it's a little too broad for the present purpose as there is a type of conservative (no telling how few are left since their presence can't be felt in national politics) who would not let America rot.

This is the pathological, conscience-free type of conservatism that controls America (and both parties), which has just one, non-competing value: the lust for power and money. Even the very survival of their grandchildren and the earth itself is not a brake on these people's predation on the rest of us and exploitation of the earth. Literally: one value, never mitigated by any other idea or feeling.

That's the only kind of conservative thinking that most of us have ever seen, so "conservative" substitutes nicely for "neocon" in most contexts, offending maybe eight or ten people who are decent conservatives (where are you all? if you respect the Constitution, you should be fighting this monster with us).

One other word to consider using is "corporatist", which says it all, even implying fascist without overtly saying so. Also, it's easier to see the Democrats' conservatism and complicity in creating a corporatocracy when you look at their corporate ties.

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» RE: Nomenclature Posted by: SatanicJamboree
» RE: Nomenclature Posted by: Pirate1
» RE: Nomenclature Posted by: LMNOP
a long nite spinning!
Posted by: Conservasaurus on Aug 3, 2007 5:24 AM   
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""It's a predictable outcome of the rise of "backlash" conservatism; we've swallowed 30 years of small-government rhetoric, """ ....

Josh, you are really reaching on this one.

I have visions of you sitting up all nite saying there MUST be someway we can spin this as anti conservative...

Bigger government will make us all safer???.. please!!!

I propose you take a poll and see how many liberals were driving across the bridge at the moment it collapsed.. you might find LIBERALS are at fault!

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» RE: a long nite spinning! Posted by: Conservasaurus
» RE: a long nite spinning! Posted by: Joshua Holland
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» RE: a long nite spinning! Posted by: Joshua Holland
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» LOL Posted by: LMNOP
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» RE: a long nite spinning! Posted by: LMNOP
» RE: a long nite spinning! Posted by: ordaj
» Ban him Posted by: LMNOP
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» RE: a long nite spinning! Posted by: ALANHESTER
Ahh, but remember!
Posted by: marid on Aug 3, 2007 5:25 AM   
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IN a country that bases the welfare of its people on the Gross National Product this will be a bonanza.

Repairing the bridge adds to it, new cars adds to it, casket sales, lawyers fees, plane traffic for news anchors, food and water consumed by rescue workers, pay for the rescuers, equipment rentals, and all the other myriad of things that this tragedy will set off will boost our GDP. And so in the eyes of Wall Street and the economists we will do better as a nation.

For Pete's sake when will we get off this bus to the insane asylum and realize that our people's quality of life has little or nothing to do with the GDP.

Remember the true mission of govt, to provide for the good of the people and the welfare of the country as a whole.

The Constitution has been changed to read "We the Corporation", when will We the People finally look up and realize they have been shearing us and sending us to slaughter for years. The Corpse rule all.

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» Excellent point Posted by: HeroesAll
» Hurricanes & earthquakes "help" the economy too! Posted by: karma_ran_over_dogma
» RE: Ahh, but remember! Posted by: TheNamelessCity
» RE: ead the preamble to the Constitution Posted by: dangerouslysane
» Disasters and GDP Posted by: tjg1984
Cronies Gone Wild
Posted by: marxalot on Aug 3, 2007 5:31 AM   
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Funding for infrastructure is all siphoned off by the elite crony network. Your tax dollars get jacked, and that bridge was taken out by a different kind of terrorist.

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» RE: Cronies Gone Wild Posted by: ALANHESTER
We need to dump both parties that just want to politicize on tragedies and DO NOTHING ABOUT THEM!
Posted by: Bev on Aug 3, 2007 5:53 AM   
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Our country is falling apart, and Joshua here is trying to politicize. BOTH SIDES ARE WORKING FOR THE CORPORATE ELITE. It's time to throw them all out.

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» Get off the short bus Posted by: Spot
» ideas? Posted by: dover23
Memo To Bu$h Cheney Inc., All War Contractors-War Profiteers, PNAC Signers:
Posted by: freethink7 on Aug 3, 2007 6:05 AM   
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We the people will no longer support your illegal wars in Iraq, Afganistan, upcoming Iran war, et al. Take all those trillions in profit that you have made from war profiteering-war mongering at the expense of nearly a million innocent lives and begin rebuilding our country and its infrastructure.

We the people are sick and tired of funneling money needed to rebuild our roads, bridges and our infrastructure into your illegal unethical wars.

All profits made from unscrupulous war profiteers/contractors must now be used to rebuild our own country and all its crumpling bridges and roads. Oh, and you can pay reparations to the families of the bridge collapse with your filthy blood money.

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Faith-based Infrastructure
Posted by: ProgressiveManiac on Aug 3, 2007 6:23 AM   
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Fundamental tenets of conservative Republican philosophy have held that government should keep its hands out of everything except waging war and putting criminals in jail.

So, perhaps God will re-build the bridge in Minnesota and the levees in New Orleans. Or perhaps the private sector will step in and do a good efficient job of it. All we need is to have more faith in these magic solutions.

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» RE: Faith-based Infrastructure Posted by: ALANHESTER
Bad Engineering and Denial
Posted by: R.I.P. on Aug 3, 2007 6:27 AM   
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Josh, The reasons for the bridge collapse is consistent with many other similar man made disasters throughout history.
It's bad engineering to satisfy economic priorities .... Google "bridge disasters" and you'll find the same story again and again. Rip Tragle

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» Then How Do You Explain Posted by: Gravitas
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» Engineering bad economics Posted by: eddie torres
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» 'Big' isn't the same as 'fraudulent' Posted by: eddie torres
That other catastrophe
Posted by: VannaLaRoche on Aug 3, 2007 6:33 AM   
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'Member, the World Trade Center was built bad, too, and that's why it collapsed the way it did. Remember? Sure you do.

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» RE: That other catastrophe Posted by: phatkhat
» RE: That other catastrophe Posted by: Conservasaurus
Step Up!
Posted by: shangrilalad on Aug 3, 2007 6:36 AM   
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Step Up.

The next thing you hear might be Rush and O’Reilly blaming liberals for blowing up the Minnesota bridge. Don’t laugh, they’ve said worse.

Murdoch is a fascist, his newspapers and networks are fascist, his “Anchors” are fascist, and it’s all fascist all the time.

WTF!

Democratic Representative didn’t notice when fascists started taking over the air waves, when “conservatives” packed the courts and every other agency of government with “good little Germans,” and when the “Decider” urinated on the Constitution and balance of powers we once held dear?

Somebody better step up and tell America what’s happening, because we’ve never been in deeper excrement. We’ve got people in power who are changing our form of government by Crime & Decree, and few of our “Representatives” seem to notice or care.

Americans are not cowards. We’ll fight anybody, anytime for dissin’ us, but someone has to tell us the truth so we know who or what to fight. Right now we have anarchy and paralysis, caused by a dictatorial president and no organized opposition from any of our Democratic “leaders.”

Step up and tell America what’s happening..

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Joshua, I wonder why no Neocon talk about privatization?
Posted by: sausage on Aug 3, 2007 6:39 AM   
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So far, in the aftermath of the I-35W bridge collapse, no Republican has stepped up to the plate to denouce the "socialist" Interstate highway system; claim that private enterprise would do a better maintenance job; finish with a declaration that hence forth all the Interstates will be turned into toll roads, pay for themselves to be owned and maintained by private companies.

Of course, for nearly thirly years, from Reagan to Bush II the Nightmare, our free-market fundamentalists in Congress, on both side of the aisle, have been singing the praises of private efficiency over governmental incompetency and slothful government bureaucrats.

Yet does anyone ever look at private efficiency?

I seems to me that every time a public enterprise is privatized the following scenario takes place: New private owner fires half of work force, coerces remaining workers to work longer hours, busts unions, lowers pay; cuts corners on maintenance in effort to increase profit margine, which already took a jump due to lower wages; after several years of profit taking and physical neglect, private owners declares enterprise unprofitable and walks away, leaving government to pick up pieces.

It's too soon to tell, but I will wager that the State of Indiana will be facing a similar situation in twenty or thirty years.

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» Absolutely true!!!!!!! Posted by: pleaseplanttrees
More to come
Posted by: jmndodge on Aug 3, 2007 6:45 AM   
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our infra-structure is in serious decline. Not just the roads, bridges, and power grid, but much more seriously the state of education, health care, and social services in our country. The obscene obsession with lower taxes for the rich, restricted services for common man, and passive neglect of our national transportation and power grid while spending far beyond our means for war, international meddling and occupations all accross the globe with military bases expanding rapidly, has resulted in massive decline in our national health, our international reputation, and our moral/spiritual intregety. May God help us.

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The Rich Get Richer and the Poor Get Killed
Posted by: ogman on Aug 3, 2007 6:49 AM   
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The simple fact, now obvious to all but the completely blind, is that the wealthy have gutted this country to the point that we can no longer even support our infrastructure. Mindless adoration of greed has left us with a country where no one wants to do any job that will not make them a millionaire in six months. Those who do those jobs get the shaft and then rich people mount disdain upon them. We've created a culture where work is for suckers.

Our economy is crashing under the weight of thieves who steal and then respond that their victims simply should have been more careful. Our laws now provide cover for this thievery and punish those who object to being ripped off. Fixing bridges won't buy anyone a new yacht, so you can bet it will still be a low priority, even after this tragedy.

Insurance companies are some of the worst thieves. No doubt they will respond to this incident by canceling the policies of anyone who has to cross a bridge to get to work. These same companies have already destroyed the health care system. I'm pretty sure we can solve the entire health care "crisis" by simply jailing the lot of them and distributing their bloated wealth to the medical community so they can actually provide MEDICAL services.

The wealthy have demanded and received tax cuts. In return they promised more jobs and better services. None of those things have materialized. Personally, I'm ready to vote for the first candidate that shouts "No New Tax Cuts!" Privatization lines the pockets of the rich but solves no problems. What kind of fool does one have to be to think that a corporate mindset will support the needs of a society? Bridges and roads and health care are not profitable, rather they are necessities. They don't increase stock prices or provide golden parachutes, instead they support a healthy and safe society. No corporation is ever going to solve the day to day problems faced by a democratic society. As has often been said, "A corporation is not a democracy." Why then are we letting them run this one?

We live in a country that creates nothing. Today's new wealth is created by lies and theft, by cutting necessities, and by taking jobs away from people who need them to support their families. Corporate leaders mismanage their companies and then punish workers who had no control over the bungling boardroom. Lives are lost on a daily basis so that the wealthy can buy bigger cars and bigger houses and ravenously devour far more than their fair share of our resources. Believe me, they will continue preying upon us just as long as we fail to defend ourselves.

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Republican or Democratic bridge?
Posted by: pzzp on Aug 3, 2007 7:07 AM   
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