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Pleas on Larry King for Lohan, But What About Other Drug Offenders?
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The kid glove protective attitude of many in the entertainment industry toward Lohan is hardly surprising. She has been released each time within hours on low bond, wears a SCRAM monitoring bracelet, and alcohol monitor on her ankle, gets tested regularly, and got top notch treatment at a posh Malibu, California rehab center. Her film," I Know Who Killed Me," which is scheduled for release almost certainly will pack audiences in, if for no other reason out of curiosity and her rogue name.
There's nothing wrong with Lohan's entertainment industry friends, and a star-struck public, pleading for empathy for her and urging the courts to spare her a jail sentence, and to give her the help that she obviously needs. But there are thousands of drug offenders that need the same compassion and help as Lohan. The big difference is that these drug abusers aren't high-profile, bankable screen commodities. They are mostly poor blacks and Latinos. The estimate is that nearly one-fourth of the more than one million blacks that pack America's prisons are there for non-violent, drug-related crimes. It costs billions to keep them there.
Putting them behind bars has had staggering consequences. It has torn apart families and communities. It has been the single biggest reason for the bloat in federal and state spending on prison construction, maintenance, and the escalation in the number of prosecutors needed to handle the flood of drug cases. Also, few poor, black and Latino drug offenders will be immediately released by police, as Lohan continues to be, and then be allowed to luxuriate in a posh drug treatment center.
The pampered treatment of celebrities such as Lohan carries another public pitfall. It could fuel a backlash to the mounting efforts by many drug reform advocates and public officials to push Congress to eliminate the gaping racially-warped disparity in the drug sentencing laws. These laws mandate minimum sentences for petty drug offenses for those tried in federal court. Far more black and Latino drug offenders, than whites, are tried there. Former President Clinton and Attorney General Janet Reno twice gave half-hearted approval to the U.S. Sentencing Commission's recommendation that the drug sentencing laws be softened. Twice Congress has refused to act.
Lohan's repeated busts could also cripple efforts by drug reform advocates to win wider public support for state-wide initiatives such as Proposition 36 passed overwhelmingly by California voters a few years ago. The law mandates treatment, not jail for non-violent, first time drug offenders. Since then, other states have either passed or proposed similar laws that proscribe drug rehab rather than tossing the key on drug offenders. It's part a cost cutting measure, and part recognition that jails have been a grossly ineffective way to fight illicit drug abuse.
Drug warriors loath these initiatives. They claim that treatment, rather than severe jail sentences, encourages drug abusers to laugh at the courts and the law and puts the public at greater peril.
The notion that celebrities such as Lohan thumb their noses at the law has also stoked public anger over the celebrity double standard. That was glaringly evident in the recent tragicomic drama involving Lohan's other bad girl celebrity counterpart, Paris Hilton. Hilton's early release by L.A. County Sheriff Lee Baca brought the wrath of an angry public down on his head. The early release and her later puff ball treatment in jail was a blatant play of the celebrity double standard card. But it did at least momentarily open a small window of opportunity for prison reformers to use the Hilton case to demand the same medical treatment Hilton got for other female inmates.
That window slammed shut fast. L.A county officials haven't uttered a peep since the Hilton episode about spending more on treatment and rehab programs for drug abusers. The Los Angeles County Sheriff's department also has been mute on whether other inmates will get some facsimile of the medical treatment Hilton got.
A few years back a spokes person for the California Department of Corrections publicly declared that they would consider placing repeated celebrity drug abuser Robert Downey, Jr. in a residential treatment facility rather than the county jail. The spokesperson said without a hint that he recognized the celebrity double-standard, "We don't want to just lock them up." He meant the well-to-do and famous, such as Downey and now Lohan, not the thousands of poor and unknown. There are no such qualms about locking them up.
And we darn well know, there's won't be any teary-eyed pleas for understanding for them on the Larry King show.
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Posted by: jmooney on Jul 26, 2007 12:55 PM
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The prisons are undoubtedly filled with addicted people. They do criminal things to get their drugs and those crimes need to be punished, I guess. Some folks are jailed just because they bought their illegal stuff. I'm not so sure people who posess amounts that are clearly for personal use should be sent to jail absent another crime (stealing, wreckless endangerement in a vehicle, etc.). But I don't know that sending them to treatment generally makes a difference.
I think we gotta keep trying with addicts. More research and development on medications that will keep them off their "bad" medications. I don't think 12 steps works for all that many. It works for some, and it is good to have support, but to divert folks into programs that are basically religious in nature doesn't strike me as having been all that effective and further erodes the separation of church and state.
Lohan is a sad case regardless of whether or not she is rich, attractive, artistically talented, etc. To see her washed out countenance on that mug shot is to see someone who is just lost, missing in America. And there are many such people in the land, some ostensibly free out using their stuff, some clearly unfree in prisons. We don't see their faces on mug shots so we don't know so much about them, but they are tragic, just as she is tragic. There is something about humans in our society that lends itself toward addiction.
I recently re-read a book called "Heart of Addiction" by Lance Dodes, which says that the common element in addiction is that the addicted person early in life found him or herself powerless in their environment and found addictive ways (drugs, sex, gambling, etc.) to re-assert their power. You know, if I am powerless here, at least I can do something to change the way I feel. And that becomes imbedded and takes a life of its own. I don't think addiction is a real disease like cancer (one can't find the remnants of addiction in a dead person like you can for other legitimate diseases), but addiction is a psychological disorder. It is more like a syndrome where we are seeing symptons of something deeper.
I guess I remember that tale of the girl throwing back star fish into the water and telling a pessimistic that while she can't save them all, the star fish she just through back was saved, and she made a difference there. We gotta keep trying to save addicts, one at a time, I guess. Keep searching for new techniques, not letting ourselves get stuck in 1930-era treatment regimes (AA/NA) that don't work for many.
We can all joke and yuck it up about Lindsey and Al III. I get it. But addiction really and truly isn't a joke. Those who struggle with it sometimes make light of it; sort of gallows humor. But it is a lethal problem that is sucking so much productivity out of our nation. It is sad.
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Posted by: ShoShenQ on Jul 26, 2007 8:33 PM
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That was years ago, never approached drugs again but if others want to lose their time, money and sanity its okay with me, to each his life and the decisions that determine it.
To each his fight.
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Posted by: Gisele on Jul 30, 2007 6:23 AM
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Wouldn't it be better to have her REAL friends kick her in the ass, and a family that truly gives a damn tell her to grow up? That this ain't a dress rehearsal?!
I bet she'd rather hear those words from friends and family, than hear her own voice saying ... "I had it all, but...." It's time for reality to hit her in the head before her steering wheel does.
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Posted by: Don on Jul 30, 2007 7:58 AM
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My daughter and her boyfriend, who live near Nashville, TN had planned to drive up to Thunder Bay, ON for a brief vacation.
They drove hundreds of miles north all the way to the border, and when they attempted to cross, were detained at the checkpoint.
After waiting for about 30 minutes, they were informed that they had been denied entry to Canada because my daughter's boyfriend had been arrested 5 years earlier for underage drinking when he was 19. Now how could being caught drinking underage 5 years ago have anything to do with being a threat to the country to-day, as an adult. Even more ridiculous, he would have been of legal drinking age in Canada at the time.
When they turned around, they had to go through the US checkpoint before re-entering the USA. US customs knew they had been denied entry, and could not possibly be smuggling anything from Canada, but they took advantage of an opportunity that normally they would not have legally had on the streets in the USA, and did a complete search of the car, tearing through every inch of their stuff. My daughter was very upset when they took her personal diary and the customs agent spent about 20 minutes reading through it page-by-page. She had a couple of references to drug use written on some of the pages, so I am sure the customs agent fount this of interest. I am wondering if he scanned this and put it in the data base.
This incident points to one of the reasons for petty drug prohibition laws: it gives the government an extra layer of control over the population.
Welcome to the North American Police State.
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» RE: Don't think about entering Canada if you have even the pettiest offence on record.
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Posted by: freethink7 on Jul 30, 2007 9:54 AM
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Driving under the influence is extremely dangerous. If she wants to stay at home, drink, do drugs, party it down - that’s one thing. But going out and driving a car having the potential to kill innocent victims is a serious crime.
Mr. Hutchinson is correct: Our prison system of full of drug offenders who do not have access to resources or celebrity status for acquittal and out of the joint (as is case with Paris Hilton and Lohan). Let’s level the playing field for all these coddled and otherwise indulged celebs: Break the law: go to jail, and you don’t automatically receive a get out of jail card and instant exoneration for your over-glorified celebrity status.
No more leniencies for pampered-overindulged-coddled celebrities. Let Lindsay do jail time and then go to drug/alcohol treatment afterwards. She may emerge a person with better character and standards after doing a stint in the joint and learning consequences of behavior. Maybe her time in drug/alcohol rehab will be more meaningful and long lasting after some jail time.
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According to the recent National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism (reported by ABC News 07/3/2007), 30.3 percent of the U.S. population engages in problem drinking, but only 24 percent of those suffering from alcohol dependency seek help, and only 7 percent seek treatment for alcohol abuse.
"We have a time warp in the practice of addiction medicine in this county," Dr. Kern says. "Would you put your life in the hands of someone who only has a 15% success rate?" (The AA retention rate is 5%, according to Alcoholics Anonymous World Services' own statistics).
He adds, "The root of why people aren't getting help is the shame, blame, intensity and religious overtones of the standard treatment, and physicians 'diseasing' the problem."
Continued in article: Beverly Hills Addictions Expert Addresses Question: 'Why Hasn't Alcohol Rehab Worked for Lindsay Lohan and 93% of Problem Drinkers in U.S.?'
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2007/7/prweb542606.htm
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Posted by: jmooney on Jul 26, 2007 12:55 PM
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The prisons are undoubtedly filled with addicted people. They do criminal things to get their drugs and those crimes need to be punished, I guess. Some folks are jailed just because they bought their illegal stuff. I'm not so sure people who posess amounts that are clearly for personal use should be sent to jail absent another crime (stealing, wreckless endangerement in a vehicle, etc.). But I don't know that sending them to treatment generally makes a difference.
I think we gotta keep trying with addicts. More research and development on medications that will keep them off their "bad" medications. I don't think 12 steps works for all that many. It works for some, and it is good to have support, but to divert folks into programs that are basically religious in nature doesn't strike me as having been all that effective and further erodes the separation of church and state.
Lohan is a sad case regardless of whether or not she is rich, attractive, artistically talented, etc. To see her washed out countenance on that mug shot is to see someone who is just lost, missing in America. And there are many such people in the land, some ostensibly free out using their stuff, some clearly unfree in prisons. We don't see their faces on mug shots so we don't know so much about them, but they are tragic, just as she is tragic. There is something about humans in our society that lends itself toward addiction.
I recently re-read a book called "Heart of Addiction" by Lance Dodes, which says that the common element in addiction is that the addicted person early in life found him or herself powerless in their environment and found addictive ways (drugs, sex, gambling, etc.) to re-assert their power. You know, if I am powerless here, at least I can do something to change the way I feel. And that becomes imbedded and takes a life of its own. I don't think addiction is a real disease like cancer (one can't find the remnants of addiction in a dead person like you can for other legitimate diseases), but addiction is a psychological disorder. It is more like a syndrome where we are seeing symptons of something deeper.
I guess I remember that tale of the girl throwing back star fish into the water and telling a pessimistic that while she can't save them all, the star fish she just through back was saved, and she made a difference there. We gotta keep trying to save addicts, one at a time, I guess. Keep searching for new techniques, not letting ourselves get stuck in 1930-era treatment regimes (AA/NA) that don't work for many.
We can all joke and yuck it up about Lindsey and Al III. I get it. But addiction really and truly isn't a joke. Those who struggle with it sometimes make light of it; sort of gallows humor. But it is a lethal problem that is sucking so much productivity out of our nation. It is sad.
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» Damn fine post.
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» RE: No easy answer to addiction
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» RE: No easy answer to addiction
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» Some knowledge of the FACTS may prove be of use..then and now........
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Posted by: ShoShenQ on Jul 26, 2007 8:33 PM
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That was years ago, never approached drugs again but if others want to lose their time, money and sanity its okay with me, to each his life and the decisions that determine it.
To each his fight.
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Posted by: Gisele on Jul 30, 2007 6:23 AM
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Wouldn't it be better to have her REAL friends kick her in the ass, and a family that truly gives a damn tell her to grow up? That this ain't a dress rehearsal?!
I bet she'd rather hear those words from friends and family, than hear her own voice saying ... "I had it all, but...." It's time for reality to hit her in the head before her steering wheel does.
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Posted by: Don on Jul 30, 2007 7:58 AM
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My daughter and her boyfriend, who live near Nashville, TN had planned to drive up to Thunder Bay, ON for a brief vacation.
They drove hundreds of miles north all the way to the border, and when they attempted to cross, were detained at the checkpoint.
After waiting for about 30 minutes, they were informed that they had been denied entry to Canada because my daughter's boyfriend had been arrested 5 years earlier for underage drinking when he was 19. Now how could being caught drinking underage 5 years ago have anything to do with being a threat to the country to-day, as an adult. Even more ridiculous, he would have been of legal drinking age in Canada at the time.
When they turned around, they had to go through the US checkpoint before re-entering the USA. US customs knew they had been denied entry, and could not possibly be smuggling anything from Canada, but they took advantage of an opportunity that normally they would not have legally had on the streets in the USA, and did a complete search of the car, tearing through every inch of their stuff. My daughter was very upset when they took her personal diary and the customs agent spent about 20 minutes reading through it page-by-page. She had a couple of references to drug use written on some of the pages, so I am sure the customs agent fount this of interest. I am wondering if he scanned this and put it in the data base.
This incident points to one of the reasons for petty drug prohibition laws: it gives the government an extra layer of control over the population.
Welcome to the North American Police State.
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» thank you for pointing this out!
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Posted by: freethink7 on Jul 30, 2007 9:54 AM
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Driving under the influence is extremely dangerous. If she wants to stay at home, drink, do drugs, party it down - that’s one thing. But going out and driving a car having the potential to kill innocent victims is a serious crime.
Mr. Hutchinson is correct: Our prison system of full of drug offenders who do not have access to resources or celebrity status for acquittal and out of the joint (as is case with Paris Hilton and Lohan). Let’s level the playing field for all these coddled and otherwise indulged celebs: Break the law: go to jail, and you don’t automatically receive a get out of jail card and instant exoneration for your over-glorified celebrity status.
No more leniencies for pampered-overindulged-coddled celebrities. Let Lindsay do jail time and then go to drug/alcohol treatment afterwards. She may emerge a person with better character and standards after doing a stint in the joint and learning consequences of behavior. Maybe her time in drug/alcohol rehab will be more meaningful and long lasting after some jail time.
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According to the recent National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism (reported by ABC News 07/3/2007), 30.3 percent of the U.S. population engages in problem drinking, but only 24 percent of those suffering from alcohol dependency seek help, and only 7 percent seek treatment for alcohol abuse.
"We have a time warp in the practice of addiction medicine in this county," Dr. Kern says. "Would you put your life in the hands of someone who only has a 15% success rate?" (The AA retention rate is 5%, according to Alcoholics Anonymous World Services' own statistics).
He adds, "The root of why people aren't getting help is the shame, blame, intensity and religious overtones of the standard treatment, and physicians 'diseasing' the problem."
Continued in article: Beverly Hills Addictions Expert Addresses Question: 'Why Hasn't Alcohol Rehab Worked for Lindsay Lohan and 93% of Problem Drinkers in U.S.?'
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2007/7/prweb542606.htm
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