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Michael Moore's Challenge to the Presidential Candidates

By Michael Moore, Huffington Post. Posted July 28, 2007.


The Democratic presidential candidates are fighting to show how in touch they are with the plight of everyday Americans, but Michael Moore has a way for them to prove how serious they are.

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The American government isn't afraid to hand out free health care. Senior citizens get it. Veterans get it. As SiCKO shows you, even the detainees at Guantanamo Bay get it.

So, too, do our federal elected officials. It doesn't matter if they are Republicans or Democrats, young or old, healthy or sick -- they are entitled to free, government-provided health insurance. They don't have to worry about being able to pay for medical help -- even if many of their constituents do.

When Senator Sherrod Brown was running for a seat in the House of Representatives over 10 years ago, he saw something wrong with this. He pledged not to accept his free government health care until everyone in the United States had the same luxury. (He's still waiting.)

Brown reasoned that politicians should have the same privileges as those they represent. I know a lot of the Democrats running for President understand this principle. Monday night during their YouTube debate, Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, Mike Gravel, Dennis Kucinich, Barack Obama, and Bill Richardson all pledged to work for the minimum wage should they be elected president -- to show that they're in touch with the plight of everyday Americans, and to make sure they are personally invested in making sure the minimum wage in this country is a livable one. Good for them.

Now, candidates, how about giving up your health care too? If elected president, you and your family will be entitled to free government health care, courtesy of the fine doctors at the National Naval Medical Center in Bethesda, Maryland. But nearly 50 million of your constituents will go without any medical care at all -- and 18,000 of them will die during your first year in office simply because they lack health insurance. As the head of the government, how can you take advantage of its health care services, but deny it to so many citizens?

I am calling on each presidential candidate to pledge to refuse their free government health care until every person in this country also has it. I want every candidate who said they'd work for the minimum wage as president to work uninsured, too, until health care is universal. And I want the other candidates to join them. (Yes, I'm looking at you, too, Republicans. I know you can afford to do it.)

During Monday night's interactive debate, I submitted this exact challenge on YouTube, just like everyone else. CNN didn't choose it -- maybe Dr. Gupta was making the selections? Anyway, I am issuing it here. All candidates should pledge to take whatever health care is available to the least fortunate American. Right now, that's nothing. Hopefully as president, they'll have to make it something.

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Michael Moore is an Academy award-winning filmmaker and author of "Dude, Where's My Country?"

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It's about time...
Posted by: rg on Jul 28, 2007 12:21 AM   
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that someone threw down this gauntlet at candidates of both parties, not because it's going to challenge them to forfeit their perks, but because it's going to expose every one of them for the frauds that they truly are.
Give up their perks; what are you, a commie?
They're all going to blithely side-step this gauntlet, democrat & republican alike, and go about sticking their hands in to the public's money.
Nice try.

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Health Care, You Tube, CNN and Other Stuff
Posted by: Tom Degan on Jul 28, 2007 2:52 AM   
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First of all, let me say for the record that I thought the so-called "You Tube Debate" was just another slip down the path of mediocrity that this country has been going for the last twenty-five years. If that is the future of presidential politics then Heaven help up all. Leave it to CNN to come up with that idea. It used to be a pretty good News Network (twenty years ago). Now it just plain sucks.

Please come home, Bernie Shaw!

Good luck to Michael Moore. If he can get these knuckleheads in the Democratic Party to start acting like Democrats, then God bless him! Don't hold your breath, though! Like CNN, The Democratic Party's glory days are in its past. The Dems used to stand for something. What do they stand for now?...Can anybody thell me??? Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt wouldn't even recognize their party today!

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
"The Rant" by Tom Degan

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» Rebuttal... Posted by: CatDad
Davy
Posted by: davy on Jul 28, 2007 3:21 AM   
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What? You must be joking. A political candidate putting their money where their mouth is. Wooops, thats me, losing whats left of my faith in america daily.

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John Edwards
Posted by: Landbaron on Jul 28, 2007 3:49 AM   
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By far the best choice!

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» FYI... Posted by: CatDad
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» RE: John Edwards Posted by: CatDad
RE: "Moore" promises!
Posted by: LeftCoastProgressive on Jul 28, 2007 6:47 AM   
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“”As SiCKO shows you, even the detainees at Guantanamo Bay get it.””” ---mmm.. I always suspected they were treated very well!

In between torture sessions, the detainees and the torturers have to have good coverage! Did you ever wonder how many times a day our hero soldiers have to remove then replace manacles on those "DASTARDLY TERRORISTS"! LOL!

“”“Brown reasoned that politicians should have the same privileges as those they represent. I know a lot of the Democrats running for President understand this principle.””” ----------– you think so.. then if that was the case why has Hillary and Bill ALWAYS and all the others taken all the benefits allotted to the while in office, WITHOUT regard for their constituency – could it be they are hypocrites.

Gosh...Conservashit! Discover a new really tough word, hypocrite?You are just so frightening when you attack Democrats in such a decisive way! And of course you leave the slimy corrupt Repugs out of your "balanced coverage". Ever thought of a job at FAUX news? Thet're soooo balanced too!

“””Monday night during their YouTube debate, Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, Mike Gravel, Dennis Kucinich, Barack Obama, and Bill Richardson all pledged to work for the minimum wage should they be elected president”””””---------- – they all hold some office NOW.. why aren’t they NOW!!!! ..why is it ONLY if they get elected President? Can it be because they are hypocrites

As Ronnie Dimwit Reagan used to say..."There you go again, Conservadipshit, using that newfound awful word again!"

“””to show that they're in touch with the plight of everyday Americans””” ------------– yes there is a laugh as Hillary and Bill receive 10 of millions from Arab nation each year for lobbying!!!!

Way to go, Conservacrap! Let's blanket "condemn" the Arab nations. But be sure and leave off Big Oil and its multi-million contributions to Big Repug Corruption in office!

“””I am calling on each presidential candidate to pledge to refuse their free government health care until every person in this country also has it. I want every candidate who said they'd work for the minimum wage as president to work uninsured””” –------------ Mr. MOORE.. I to donate your millions to 9-11 first responders.. – do that and maybe your lies and twisting of facts in F911 MIGHT be overlooked for a good cause! Until then you are just a Sicko looking to profit off all those poor Americans whom you claim to be championing their cause.

Awwww...I wondered when you where going to attack Moore? What a fucking cretin you are! Your just some puke-ass fart sitting at your computer weakly whacking away at those nasty Democrats. How pathetic!

Speaking of LIES...maybe you should hold a class in LYING! You seem to be so good at REPUG crap!

BTW, Moore needs to shed at least another 100 lbs so he doesnt become a burden on our insurance system due to his lack of self control!

Sniff, sniff! You are just soooo hurtful....you savage, you!

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» RE: "Moore" promises! Posted by: WitchyNy
» RE: "Moore" promises! Posted by: Conservasaurus
» Free Speech? Posted by: bornxeyed
RE: "Moore" promises!
Posted by: aonghus36 on Jul 28, 2007 7:46 AM   
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>“””to show that they're in touch with the plight of everyday Americans””” ------------– yes there is a laugh as Hillary and Bill receive 10 of millions from Arab nation each year for lobbying!!!!

At least the Clintons weren't snap shot, literally, holding hands with them, like Bush was.

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» RE: "Moore" promises! Posted by: Conservasaurus
» RE: "Moore" promises! Posted by: blitzmesser
RE: "Moore" promises!
Posted by: carcinoid112 on Jul 28, 2007 8:10 AM   
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There's this book called "House of Bush, House of Saud". If you want to talk about some political family being in bed with the Arab world, look to the generations of Bushistas. Prescott had his Nazis, but GHWB climbed in the sack with the Arabs LONG ago. Carlyle Group, anyone? And GWB?? With his underground rep for certain things, he's not only been in that bed, he's been tied to it a couple of times at least.

Saudi Prince Bandar 'Bush' didn't get that nickname because of his eyebrows.

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RE: "Moore" promises!
Posted by: hagwind on Jul 28, 2007 9:39 AM   
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Mr. MOORE.. I to donate your millions to 9-11 first responders.. – do that and maybe your lies and twisting of facts in F911 MIGHT be overlooked for a good cause! Until then you are just a Sicko looking to profit off all those poor Americans whom you claim to be championing their cause.

I'd just as soon Moore keep using his millions, or whatever he's got, to make more movies, but Amanda Terkel reported this in her PEEK commentary:

Moore also announced that on Aug. 11, The Weinstein Company, which distributes SiCKO, will donate 11 percent of the box office receipts to help 9/11 rescue workers who need medical care.

Guess Conservasaurus should find something else to be Saur about. ;-)

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» RE: "Moore" promises! Posted by: Conservasaurus
» Hell I need a job Posted by: bornxeyed
» RE: Hell I need a job Posted by: Conservasaurus
» RE: Hell I need a job Posted by: bornxeyed
RE: "Moore" promises!
Posted by: blitzmesser on Jul 28, 2007 2:40 PM   
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What's that to you... whether he sheds 500 pounds, or not? Who are you tel tell him what he needs to do? Why not focus on your own inadequacies and do something about them, if it is not tooooo late?
I am sure Moore does not need to rely on your contributions to the insurance systems! Even if you are one of the members of the fraudulenti, yourself. I wouldn't be surprised, the way you keep critizising issues that are besides the point.
Why don't you put your mouth where your foot is and offer a huge reward for the facts you think Moore twisted and you definitely know better?

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» "Moore" promises and food please! Posted by: Conservasaurus
» RE: "Moore" promises and food please! Posted by: Conservasaurus
RE: "Moore" promises!
Posted by: SatanicJamboree on Jul 28, 2007 7:44 PM   
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As usual--absolutely no intelligent response to anything Moore says or does--never an actual critique of F 911, which in NO WAY shape or form dis'd first responders or any of the decent people trying to save lives that day--but instead revealed the naked corruption of the White House in a way that almost no one had courage to do at the time.

Oh, and then the usual name-calling--oh yeah, talking about his weight, that shows so much class.

What a twisted, stupid little shit you are...you come here to attack and hate...nothing to contribute to anything or anyone--a waste of oxygen.

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» RE: "Moore" promises! Posted by: Conservasaurus
» RE: "Moore" promises! Posted by: SatanicJamboree
RE: "Moore" promises! **MOORE PROVEN RIGHT BY FARENHEIT 9/11**
Posted by: maribelle on Jul 30, 2007 8:53 AM   
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your lies and twisting of facts in F911 MIGHT be overlooked for a good cause!

I wouldn't be bringing up Farenheit 9/11 if you are a conservative. Not only were Moore's facts carefully documented at the time, but events have been proven him not only right on, but prophetic about the Iraq war.

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» RE: 11% of sicko profits to be donated Posted by: Conservasaurus
If only....
Posted by: custersbud on Jul 28, 2007 5:26 AM   
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it were true that senior citizens get free government healthcare.

As senior citizen receiving Social Security, I pay approximately ninety-eight dollars a month for Medicare coverage, whether I use it or not. My wife pays an equal amount. In many instances, doctors do not accept the Medicare reimbursement and substantial out-of-pocket disbursements are required. We contributed to the FICA program, along with our employer's healthcare plans, out of every paycheck for almost fifty years of our working lives. In the past six years, healthcare costs have risen by roughly 70% for senior citizens too.

Sorry Michael, there ain't no free lunch, even when you become a senior citizen.

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» RE: If only.... Posted by: LeftCoastProgressive
» RE: If only.... Posted by: Conservasaurus
Veterans get it for free????
Posted by: Dawn L on Jul 28, 2007 5:48 AM   
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That is news to me.

My husband is a Vietnam veteran ... we certainly get health insurance at a minimal rate but it isn't free and nor are our visits to the doctor or stays in hospital ... we pay for a 'prime' coverage, which gives us a set deductible for each visit ... if we settled for the 'free' basic insurance coverage, we wouldn't pay the regular fee to the health care provider, but we would have to pay 20% of all our medical expenses ... and with just one person with chronic health problems in the family, that can get quite expensive real fast.

All the same, we know that we are much better off than many other Americans and for that we are grateful.

Michael I admire your work and your courage and I agree with you in principle, but please make sure you have all of your facts straight, otherwise you risk losing credibility.

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HEALTH CARE -NOT DISEASE CARE
Posted by: drricklippin on Jul 28, 2007 5:49 AM   
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While I am a fan of Michael Moore and Sicko I think he and the rest of us must realize that prevention -both individual(=health behaviors) and institutional(=public health) is our nation's and other nations only way out of this mess.

A high tech treatment oriented disease care system is NOT economically sustainable

PS The ONLY part of congress' free health care that I would not take away but rather require is mental health coverage and mandatory periodic mental health evaluations for all elected officials and candidates.

Dr. Rick Lippin
Southampton, Pa
http://medicalcrises.blogspot.com

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» RE: HEALTH CARE -NOT DISEASE CARE Posted by: vultureculture
Moore is Right: Universal Health Care, Proven to Work, Contrary to U.S. Idealogy
Posted by: sofla100 on Jul 28, 2007 6:51 AM   
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Moore has eloquently pointed out that the only real solution to the Health Care mess is Universal Health Care. Proven to work across Western Europe and also in Canada and Australia. A role for prevention in such a system is a good idea, especially to deal with the obesity crisis in America. However, the life spans of Americans continues to increase anyway, so a demand for more medical care will continue unabated, no matter what we do. We simply need to get rid of all these insurance companies, and cap the profits of the hospitals and regulate, to a fair compensatory level, the salaries of doctors and other health care providers. Moore pointing this out, and showing the way to a solution, is a great service he has done for America. Now, America must overcome its idalogical bias of, "the markets," and unabashed capitalism when it comes to health and medical care. It doesn't work and we need to move on to what the rest of the world is doing.

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Don't attack Mike-
Posted by: WitchyNy on Jul 28, 2007 7:49 AM   
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The point is you are better off than the average American. "Socialized" medical -among other things-already exists in America for some people -and is nothing to be afraid of. That is the point Michael Moore is trying to make.

I trust his 'facts' more than I trust ANYTHING Bush and Co. says. So should you.

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Coming to a Theatre Near You...
Posted by: Trazom on Jul 28, 2007 9:46 AM   
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Richard eased back in his leather chair, taking a few luxurious puffs on his pipe. The sweet smelling aroma wafted into the kitchen in the next room, alerting Millie that all was well with her husband and that he had had a respectable day. In his hands lay an unfolded copy of his favorite past-time, the newspaper. It was the one thing that gave him solace in this crazy world, for no matter how incongruous, how messy life was, it could always be broken down and understood in neat little sentences. Putting his feet up on the ottoman, he eased back further still. He began to read.

The latest Pentagon statistics now show the number of US coalition force casualties in Iraq to be 3,643. This is since the official "War on Terror" began in March of 2003. With no end in site to the sectarian violence that plagues this country, coupled with an historically low approval rating for Mr. Bush...

Richard put down the paper and took off his glasses, rubbing his eyes with his wrist. He watched little circles of smoke dance off his pipe, rising to the ceiling before being dissolved by the circulating ceiling fan blades above. After a few second pause, he repositioned his glasses and went back to his reading.

The War On Terror officially began after the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks which brought down the World Trade Center, killing 2,973 American citizens along with 19 hijackers. The problem now for Mr. Bush is convincing the American people of the link between Iraq and Al-Queda in continuing this War on Terror...

Richard put down the paper, and took one long reflective puff on his pipe, staring up at the ceiling fan above him. He tried to imagine what it must have been like to be in one of the Twin Towers as it was hit by that commerical jet liner, hearing the explosion of the kerosene fuel and feeling the shaking of the floor beneath him as the force literally created a shockwave throughout the building. He imagined the poor people who, faced with the prosects of being burned alive, instead chose to jump from their windows only to be crushed on the sidewalk below. After what seemed like very long time, Richard picked up his paper once more.

The topic of healthcare has come under increasing scrutiny, particularly with the approaching 2008 Presidential election. With some 46 million uninsured persons in the United States, it is estimated that some 18,000 people will die this year alone due to not being able to afford health insurance.

Richard glanced cursorily through the rest of the article, and went on to the Sports section. He wondered if Barry Bonds had finally hit that record breaking home run. He hoped not, since he hadn't taped the game.

"Supper!" came a voice from the adjacent room. Richard threw down his paper and got up out of his chair. He put his pipe into the copper pipe stand and walked into the kitchen.

"Anything interesting today, hon?" asked Millie.

"Nope, not really. I mean, the number of dead from this War on Terror really is staggering. Almost 3,000 dead from 9/11, and more than that already in Iraq. You really wonder where our priorities are sometimes, especially when there is no end in site. It's not as if this were completely preventable or anything. We're over there for good I suppose. This whole thing is just so hard to stomach sometimes. I mean, over 6,000 dead!"

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HELPFUL
Posted by: BOOK ABOUT on Jul 28, 2007 9:50 AM   
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I HAVE TRIED TO CONTACT MICHAEL MOORE WITH A GOOD SOLUTION TO BRING BEFORE THE PRESIDENTAL CANDIDATES. I HAVE TRIED TO CONTACTED SOME CANDIDATES, BUT THEY DO NOT HAVE THE COMMON SENSE TO CHECK ANYTHING OUT. PLEASE MICHAEL MOORE AND THE PRESIDENTAL CANDIDATES THAT ARE CONTACTED, JUST LOOK AT WHAT IS OFFERED TO YOU AND MAYBE YOU WILL SEE SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN HELP MAKE THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE IN.

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HELPFUL
Posted by: BOOK ABOUT on Jul 28, 2007 9:50 AM   
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I HAVE TRIED TO CONTACT MICHAEL MOORE WITH A GOOD SOLUTION TO BRING BEFORE THE PRESIDENTAL CANDIDATES. I HAVE TRIED TO CONTACTED SOME CANDIDATES, BUT THEY DO NOT HAVE THE COMMON SENSE TO CHECK ANYTHING OUT. PLEASE MICHAEL MOORE AND THE PRESIDENTAL CANDIDATES THAT ARE CONTACTED, JUST LOOK AT WHAT IS OFFERED TO YOU AND MAYBE YOU WILL SEE SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN HELP MAKE THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE IN.

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» RE: HELPFUL don't shout!!!!! Posted by: blitzmesser
Michael Moore is fat-
Posted by: WitchyNy on Jul 28, 2007 1:03 PM   
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like so many Americans.

WHY? TV commericals telling us to eat all the chemical sugar crap that the corporations create -not for health-but just the opposite...stuff that sits in stores forever and makes us sick.

No time to exercise-must drive and take the bus to WORK WORK WORK. Where we sit for hours and hours at desks doing stupid paperwork-to make the rich richer.

As Mike says -we need to eat lots of fruit and vegatables and to go for walks.

One of the most radical things we can do - is everyone grow a vegatable garden. Plant some apple trees too. Stop eating meat. Kinder for the animals-kinder for your health.

Organize and demand a shorter work day and a four day work week. This would give us time to exercise and time to enjoy the good things in life...gardens, kids, walk the dog, reading, and organizing politically-WAIT!!!--No wonder the rich want us stressed out, busy, sick and tired!
Slaves need energy and health to revolt.

We need to start studying what France, Sweden, Canada and other progressive countries are doing. We need to get rid of this profit based system and have a people and environment first based one. Thomas Jefferson loved France. We need to look to them once again for good ideas.

We are the richest country in the world-or were before Bush and co. took over. We need free education-free health care-
environmental focus-and tax the rich to pay for it all-until there are no rich left!

"They let a few of us succeed-to give the rest of us false hope"
-said John Lennon. We need to quit buying into this "work hard and succeed" crap.

The meaning of Success-as John also sang-is not about having a bunch of money. It is the freedom to work to make our country what it should be-a good country and a good life for ALL.
How does that old saying go on that old scrap of paper?....Oh yes I remember now--------

The pursuit of HAPPY-NESS!

Imagine.

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how about this as a challenge...
Posted by: Bearzerker on Jul 28, 2007 4:57 PM   
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...have every politician prove his commitment by using his coverage, to treat of his own constituents... a seriously ill one that really needs it!...

that would shake a few heads huh... talk about publicity...

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QUALITY OF LIFE
Posted by: davidg on Jul 28, 2007 5:41 PM   
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Michael is working for improving the quality of life of all, which means greater access to goods and services. NOT a higher standard living, which is affordable luxuries. Good for him. It means more sharing through public programs for the whole community; yup, universal access to the essentials of modern life. Who wouldn't want to share in this wealthy and, allegedly, Christian country? Hmmmmmmmmmm. I wonder.

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One congressman has already carried out Moore's challenge
Posted by: SusanBee on Jul 29, 2007 2:52 AM   
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Governor Strickland (Ohio) never accepted "free" health care when he was a Congressman. His rationale: If my constituents in southeast Ohio can't get universal health care then I'm not taking Congressional health care. Moore is great but he doesn't hire enough fact checkers.

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Give Mikey a break
Posted by: willymack on Jul 29, 2007 10:36 AM   
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So, he's NOT perfect. Imagine that! He's just practicing good citizenship by using mellodrama and humor to point out very real problems with our "health care" system (or lack thereof). How many of us have his talent for exposing the greed of a few corporate thugs who couldn't care less if Americans are healthy? In fact, they make more money when we're sick, than otherwise. How many of us are willing to be a people's advocate and thus, a lightning rod for the wrath of corporate criminals? Let's face it folks; proponents of "business as usual" are NOT GOOD PEOPLE, and no amount of spin or obfuscation will change that.

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Medicare options too
Posted by: ggmurray on Jul 29, 2007 4:06 PM   
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Way to go Mike! I like your spirit. As a matter of fact, last week had a similar insight. As I near the time when I have to specify my Medicare options - amid the dizzying array of choices - I thought I should accept the minimum Medicare that any poor person would get. Why should I be special? I am just as good as anyone else, but so is anyone else just as good as me.

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lazy citizens
Posted by: Doggycuny on Jul 30, 2007 10:16 AM   
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Michael Moore might be one of the last Great Americans. At least he is trying to influence change. Unfortunatley America is the hardest country to make changes in. Why? Beacause American citizens are lazy, apathetic and ignorant, while their politicians (a reflection of the people the citizens would want to be) are lazy, greedy, egotistical and selfish. Good luck Moore!

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Good, Mike
Posted by: opeluboy on Jul 30, 2007 6:36 PM   
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Now how about challenging the pro-war candidates to pick up a gun and go fight in Iraq, or send their children?

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