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After Reporting in Iraq, America Feels Like a Bizarre Disneyland

By Dahr Jamail, Tomdispatch.com. Posted July 20, 2007.


After years of witnessing the apocalyptic violence in Iraq first hand, life in America is "nothing short of a schizophrenic experience" for veteran reporter Dahr Jamail.

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"In violence we forget who we are" -- Mary McCarthy, novelist and critic

1. Statistically Speaking

Having spent a fair amount of time in occupied Iraq, I now find living in the United States nothing short of a schizophrenic experience. Life in Iraq was traumatizing. It was impossible to be there and not be affected by apocalyptic levels of violence and suffering, unimaginable in this country.

But here's the weird thing: One long, comfortable plane ride later and you're in Disneyland, or so it feels on returning to the United States. Sometimes it seems as if I'm in a bubble here that's only moments away from popping. I find myself perpetually amazed at the heights of consumerism and the vigorous pursuit of creature comforts that are the essence of everyday life in this country -- and once defined my own life as well.

Here, for most Americans, you can choose to ignore what our government is doing in Iraq. It's as simple as choosing to go to a website other than this one.

The longer the occupation of Iraq continues, the more conscious I grow of the disparity, the utter disjuncture, between our two worlds.

In January 2004, I traveled through villages and cities south of Baghdad investigating the Bechtel Corporation's performance in fulfilling contractual obligations to restore the water supply in the region. In one village outside of Najaf, I looked on in disbelief as women and children collected water from the bottom of a dirt hole. I was told that, during the daily two-hour period when the power supply was on, a broken pipe at the bottom of the hole brought in "water." This was, in fact, the primary water source for the whole village. Eight village children, I learned, had died trying to cross a nearby highway to obtain potable water from a local factory.

In Iraq things have grown exponentially worse since then. Recently, the World Health Organization announced that 70% of Iraqis do not have access to clean water and 80% "lack effective sanitation."

In the United States I step away from my desk, walk into the kitchen, turn on the tap, and watch as clear, cool water fills my glass. I drink it without once thinking about whether it contains a waterborne disease or will cause kidney stones, diarrhea, cholera, or nausea. But there's no way I can stop myself from thinking about what was -- and probably still is -- in that literal water hole near Najaf.

I open my pantry and then my refrigerator to make my lunch. I have enough food to last a family several days, and then I remember that there is a 21% rate of chronic malnutrition among children in Iraq, and that, according to UNICEF, about one in 10 Iraqi children under five years of age is underweight.

I have a checking account with money in it; 54% of Iraqis now live on less than $1 a day.

I can travel safely on my bicycle whenever I choose -- to the grocery store or a nearby city center. Many Iraqis can travel nowhere without fear of harm. Iraq now ranks as the planet's second most unstable country, according to the 2007 Failed States Index.

These are now my two worlds, my two simultaneous realities. They inhabit the same space inside my head in desperately uncomfortable fashion. Sometimes, I almost settle back into this bubble world of ours, but then another email arrives -- either directly from friends and contacts in Iraq or forwarded by friends who have spent time in Iraq -- and I remember that I'm an incurably schizophrenic journalist living on some kind of borrowed time in both America and Iraq all at once.

2. Emailing

Here is a fairly typical example of the sorts of anguished letters that suddenly appear in my in-box. (With the exception of the odd comma, I've left the examples that follow just as they arrived. They reflect the stressful conditions under which they were written.) This one was sent to my friend Gerri Haynes from an Iraqi friend of hers:

Dear Gerri:

No words can describe the real terror of what's happening and being committed against the population in Baghdad and other cities: the poor people with no money to leave the country, the disabled old men and women, the wives and children of tens of thousands of detainees who can't leave when their dad is getting tortured in the Democratic Prisons, senior years students who have been caught in a situation that forces them to take their finals to finish their degrees, parents of missing young men who got out and never came back, waiting patiently for someone to knock the door and say, "I am back." There are thousands and thousands of sad stories that need to be told but nobody is there to listen.


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Dahr Jamail is an independent journalist who has covered the Middle East for the last four years, eight months of which were spent in occupied Iraq. Jamail is currently writing for Inter Press Service, Al-Jazeera English, and is a regular contributor to Tomdispatch.com. Jamail's forthcoming book, "Beyond the Green Zone: Dispatches from an Independent Journalist in Occupied Iraq" (Haymarket Books) will be released this October.

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schizophrenic lable should not be used
Posted by: Dan Bostdorf on Jul 20, 2007 2:23 PM   
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""nothing short of a schizophrenic experience" for veteran reporter Dahr Jamail."

This is an unfortunate use of the concept of schizophrenia and should not be utilized as a headline.

Do you know what schizophrenia is? I doubt it nor have you lived through a family member with it.

I know what schizophrenia is and isn't..and i have a family member who has one of the many forms of schizophrenia.

Your reporters experience coming back to america is NOT schizophrenic in any manner. And i resent the headline implying that it is. It demeans individuals with the "brain cheistry imbalance" that leads to schizophrenia. Your headline confuses the public. It falsely lables your reporters experience returning back to america

You want to know what schizophrenia really is?
Then visit this web site:
http://www.schizophrenia.com/family/delusions.htm

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» Poor You Posted by: Nebris
» Whaaaaaa! Pass on poor Dan. Posted by: monkopotamus
» RE: Whaaaaaa! Pass on poor Dan. Posted by: peacefullaim
» TOWER OF BABBLE Posted by: pzzp
The Marriage of Heaven and Hell...
Posted by: gazooks on Jul 20, 2007 2:34 PM   
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is how William Blake described the essence of the disparate quality of life itself.

Not to mistake the American way as a heavenly comparative, but nevertheless, welcome home.

And please know that as intensely as you feel the division of soul, there are many here who share your thirst for peace from the insanity and the lies and the violence.

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My God In Heaven !!!!!!!!
Posted by: sivermoon22 on Jul 20, 2007 2:50 PM   
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I can barely write through the streaming uncontrollable tears. What could I possibly say? I am so outraged and horrified that I can't speak. I am so grateful for this story. I have forwarded it to many.

I will continue to pray and pray and pray. I am doing all I can as a Blogger and online forum host to spread the news, to get SOMEONE'S attention in our COWARDLY Democratic Party. They are all bought and sold. I hope it is not too late.
it may be.

Bless the young baby who experienced the horror of all horrors. I am sick. And to all those in Iraq with such pain and suffering, I am sooooo deeply sorry. PLEASE know that I DID NOT VOTE FOR THIS.

May the true God of Heaven bless Iraq and it's people. May the true God of Heaven bless us all.

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» RE: My God In Heaven !!!!!!!! Posted by: Astroboy
» RE: My God In Heaven !!!!!!!! Posted by: peacefullaim
I am shocked
Posted by: Basenjis on Jul 20, 2007 5:16 PM   
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to learn that after this account of the descent of an entire nation into an unspeakably hellish existence at the instigation of our own homegrown American monsters that most of the comments are about the incorrect use of terminology. Have you all no sense of proportion?

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» I am shocked I agree Posted by: SJ
» RE: I am shocked I agree Posted by: alternetrose
» We are lost friends! Posted by: Windwhistler
» RE: We are lost friends! Posted by: Lauren
» RE: Oh how do you know? Posted by: Lauren
» RE: I am shocked Posted by: lwbaby
Big Media will never, Fascist too
Posted by: SJ on Jul 20, 2007 6:12 PM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Yet after months of telling those around me there is a blood bath going on. Feeling all along their (Bushes) plan is working. There is a system behind their madness. Thru caos they illiminate from all directions, scapegoating. The few scandals, that those who have proven there uncredibility through their lies and deciept, the horrors of Abu Griab or the Hiadtha mess. Now that stories are coming out more frequently, its realy hard to imagine what those poor people are going thru. My worst fears over the real objectives of the surge are yet to come. Now I read defnate signals that they will push to put troops in Pakistan and Lebanon, and stepup home land preparedness with security risks rising. More spying wire taping. That Bush will ask for even more troops. The Democrates continue to show their true colors, not coward as portrayed, evilbackers of another path of their own domination and destruction. They will release what bit and select pieces to try to keep the public under, with the help of the major media, those who believe in Kuchinc and Ron Paul will say only til 08. Do people realize the numbers being published in the lancet and other sourses, per day, per week. Those old numbers now with a surge, we will have new numbers! Already General Pace return Mon stated a big change +++. Article in www.MWC.net on the Gaurdian considered honest and open on yet they mislead for this genocide for oil war. Not unlike the falsities of misdirected energies of MOVEON, The Nation mag. It will come to a choice for further? If an election can have no effect on policy, and the power of the military is raised as a counterweight to any attempt to shift government policy, what alternative presents itself to the population? Here it is worth citing a passage from the Declaration of Independence again:

“Whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these [the rights of the population], it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness... [W]hen a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.”

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Heartbreaking
Posted by: vultureculture on Jul 20, 2007 10:36 PM   
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If only the imagery of the article could be burnt into the minds of people still believing that we're at war and not enemies occupying a foreign land.

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Dont worry!
Posted by: Temporary on Jul 21, 2007 12:04 AM   
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Theres more where that came from:)

Were gonna PAARTYYY all year LOOONG!

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All rise while we sing the National Schizophrenia
Posted by: Lector on Jul 21, 2007 12:48 AM   
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Dead bodies 24/7, piles of decapitated heads, hundreds monthly, the surge is succeeding, give it more time, blah blah…and God bless our democracy and our fellow neo-fascist Americans for supporting the war in Iraq so any Iraqi who gets in the way can die instead of us, the most moral of all people on planet earth… and please repeat the Bush Doctrine after me: war is good, war is freedom, fear is good, freedom is war, blah, blah, blah.

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Even ABC is showing this truth now
Posted by: Beagle17 on Jul 21, 2007 1:12 AM   
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For a visual, try this from ABC News:

Video of US soldiers' patrols

This video shot by a Guardian reporter who was 'embedded' with American soldiers shows quite clearly the reality Dahr talks about. The Americans are occupiers, plain and simple. They cannot help themselves but be abusive simply because they are placed there in such a role. Pity the soldiers and pity the Iraqis even more. Don't pity the pigs in Washington. And people wonder how the terrorist mindset ever develops. I'm shocked that no one has gone after Bush, the mortal human, yet.

If major media want to change homeland opinion on the question of ‘staying the course’ versus ‘cut and run,’ they have the power to do so. In this video posted on ABC News’ Web site, a strong anti-win statement is made. One soldier repeatedly offers to do another 15-month tour if any congressperson would be willing to tag along.

Although produced by Britain’s the Guardian, the video has gobs of the requisite pity for the American soldiers while treating the Iraqis more as statistical props. But, if that’s what it takes to get this kind of footage onto ABC New, then so be it.

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» Showing the truth? Posted by: LeftCoastProgressive
» RE: Showing the truth?.......YOU Posted by: Captainmagic
» RE: Showing the truth? Posted by: Lauren
» RE: ven ABC is showing this truth now Posted by: pleaseplanttrees
American behaviour looks like schizo
Posted by: richholland on Jul 21, 2007 4:02 AM   
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No problem for alternet.org because as soon as Iraq is left it is time for a new invasion of Cuba.
Your Helms/burton law supports the next war.
Terrorist PosadaCariles, trained by CIA once arrested for blowing up a plane above Barbados.(1976) Victims including children 73
sTILL AN ALL AMERICAN HERO.
we IN eUROPE SOMETIMES THINK we watch the activities of mental ill people.
However besides schizofrenic I believe the American Culture is more manical/depressed of nature probably influenced by the christian religion.
Maybe the USA is to big for the span of control of your government.
From discussions with a gentleman working as a chauffer in Iraq and some Vietnamvetrans I understood the difference between the Vietnamwar and Iraqwar is semantic.
However sooner or later your middleclass is going to pay.

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Although the war is unpopular now...
Posted by: mjabele on Jul 21, 2007 4:25 AM   
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...I think the main reason the US public feels that way is because of the perception that American soldiers are at risk. Is there much sympathy for what we've done to the Iraqi people? Not from what I see, watching the nightly news. We need more stories like this one.

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» UNPOPULAR NOW? Posted by: LeftCoastProgressive
» RE: UNPOPULAR NOW? Posted by: Lauren
Invasion gone wrong
Posted by: Cruella on Jul 21, 2007 4:39 AM   
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You have eloquently captured the hell that Iraq has become. The painful, sad thing is that it could have been prevented. I spotted a good short blog post about what was done and what should have been done.

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» RE: This article could be describing east L.A. Posted by: LeftCoastProgressive
» RE: Invasion gone wrong? Posted by: willymack
» RE: Invasion gone wrong? Posted by: peacefullaim
Where are the headlines in the US?
Posted by: packofwolves on Jul 21, 2007 5:07 AM   
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I am amazed at how little we hear about what is actually going on in Iraq and surrounding areas. I cannot help but believe that the Bush Administration is controlling the information we hear and filling us with propaganda. The American people should demand a return to fair and unbiased reporting, but after these years of Bush corruption, we'll probably never know what truth is again. I cannot believe how the American people allowed such corruption to envelope our country. One of the very first clues should have been when the presidenti didn't allow protests to be seen and cordoned off areas where protests could occur - far away from the cameras. Why did the press allow this to occur? This is the United States, people, we are a country who prides ourselves on freedom of speech...how could we have allowed the Bush Administration, this awful, evil, corrupt group of fanatics to take that away from us? IMPEACH BUSH AND CHENEY. They are worse than war criminals and need to pay for their inhuman and illegal behaviors.

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» There are cracks in the video news sites! Posted by: LeftCoastProgressive
Who you gonna believe?
Posted by: mizipi on Jul 21, 2007 5:48 AM   
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Some reporter with a funny name or the honorable President and Vice President of the United States? Me, I'll take the reporter with the funny name, but I am not a typical American. No matter how many reports such as this come to light, no matter how many people die, there are certain people who like violence and death and especially all of the profits made building implements of destruction. To a lot of people, this is a sad story. For Iraqis this is reality. For the American taxpayer, it's a rip-off. For the aristocrats behind this war, this is another Saturday afternoon at the club with Biff & Brit, who see no difference in what is happening in Iraq than what occurs at an athletic contest. What amount of information, videos, photos, blogs, first-hand reports, what amount will be enough to stop this mess? For the warmongers, whenever the money-flow stops, the war stops. I do not know, but would like to know how much profit is made on a barrel of Iraqi oil and how much profit is made every time a cluster bomb is dropped?
Anyway, thank you Creator of the Universe for setting me in the middle of nowhere Mississippi and not in Iraq. Forgive the warmongers and comfort the children.

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» Just wait ... Posted by: Falang
The ultimate Iraq end game Bush won't admit.
Posted by: HughScott on Jul 21, 2007 5:59 AM   
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Before writing this comment, I listened on CSPAN to Marine Colonel Gary Anderson (retired) who talked about withdrawing from Iraq. Based on recent war games he helped conduct for the Pentagon, Col. Anderson predicted the following, as reported by the Washington Post on July 17, 2007:

If U.S. combat forces withdraw from Iraq in the near future, three developments would likely unfold.

1. Majority Shiites would drive Sunnis out of ethnically mixed areas west to Anbar province.
2. Southern Iraq would erupt in civil war between Shiite groups.
3. The Kurdish north would solidify its borders and invite a U.S. troop presence there.

According to the Post, many Middle East experts agree that neither an Al Qaeda or Iranian takeover would be likely.

The Post quoted Anderson as saying, "I honestly don't think [a withdrawal] will be apocalyptic, but it would be ugly.”

How “ugly” is it to U.S. military personnel who are losing their lives and limbs every day n Iraq?

That, of course, is a rhetorical question. Humanistic considerations aside, pro and con, the only way to end Bush’s barbaric war of choice is begun withdrawing NOW, not later.

Hugh E. Scott, Vietnam veteran, lifelong registered Republican, John Kerry supporter in 2004 and editor of the nonprofit investigative website, King-George.biz, which features 50 cartoons, photos and other Bushwhacking illustrations plus the only hardcopy proof of White House corruption ever found on the Internet.

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» Bush admit WHAT wrong? Posted by: ridebalanced
» RE: Bush admit WHAT wrong? Posted by: Lauren
the horror
Posted by: Perko on Jul 21, 2007 6:24 AM   
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I am so sickened and horrified that so many Americans see themselves (and thier actions, including this war) as "Christian."

We, a culture obsessed with safety--airbags, car seats, "safe" SUVs, would simply implode at the conditions in Iraq. Can you imagine the outrage here over, god forbid, dirty drinking water? But dead children? Severed heads? Interupted shopping sprees at Target?

This article made me cry. Our species is doomed. We choke on the hypocrisy.

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Important question
Posted by: grim ripper on Jul 21, 2007 6:37 AM   
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Why does al-quada attack "insurgents"--aren't they on the same team?

When will americans get off the pigwagon?

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» Oil Bill Posted by: Melvin
The time has come...
Posted by: skoog5600 on Jul 21, 2007 6:39 AM   
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First of all thank you to the author of this article for not only risking his life in Iraq as an "independent" journalist, but also in reporting in detail the truth that is going on in that country.

The general populace in the US is so out of touch with reality that it sickens me that I once lived in such a despicable country. I am truly ashamed to be an American citizen.

Okay now that I have gotten that off me chest "again". Watch C-span during the floor debates and listen to both the Republicans and Democrats speak. It is quite literally a joke as they fake their way through trying to sound compassionate, understanding and supportive of the American people's frustrations.

I really do feel that nothing will change until the US hits bottom like an alcoholic. "The time has come" the US is on a downward spiral.

If anyone thinks that electing a democratic president will change the direction of the country, they are delusional.

I suggest getting out while you still can. It's much more civilized outside of the US.

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» RE: The time has come... Posted by: jdkd
» RE: The time has come... Posted by: pleaseplanttrees
I don't know
Posted by: esornew on Jul 21, 2007 6:41 AM   
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Problem well told by writer and readers, we've wallered around in this long enough. Now for solution: what can you or I do to stop this? Who is the cause of this horror, and who/how can it be stopped?

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» RE: I don't know - What to do? Posted by: skoog5600
» Our ancestors did it Posted by: mizipi
» RE: Our ancestors did it - TRUE Posted by: skoog5600
How many Americans enjoyed fireworks on the 4th of July
Posted by: Suzon on Jul 21, 2007 6:53 AM   
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without thinking of suffering caused by the invasion and occupation of Iraq. We harm ourselves when we harm others.

I saw the film referred to above. Like this article, it didn't tell me anything I hadn't already imagined. You don't have to be a genius to figure out what bombs, mortars, assault rifles, etc., can do to the human body.

Perhaps our political warmongers should be made to spend a few days in that morgue.

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Inner city USA
Posted by: daw13 on Jul 21, 2007 7:16 AM   
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needs an equally eloquent reporter.

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» RE: Inner city USA Posted by: lwbaby
» RE: Inner city USA Posted by: peacefullaim
What's a dictatorship?
Posted by: willymack on Jul 21, 2007 8:09 AM   
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You could look it up as the immortal Casey Stengel was wont to say, or you can examine the facts for yourself-gruesome as they may be. First: We're waging a brutal campaign of horrifying dimensions on a helpless nation, just so we can control their (finite) resources. Second: The truth of our war crimes and crimes against humanity are hushed up by a mass media loyal to a criminal regime. Third: Constitutional laws, federal statues, Habeas Corpus, Posse Comitatus, and other laws protecting our citizens have been swept aside in the name of national security, and the return of the rule of law is at best, uncertain. Fourth: The election of 2006 means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to this regime as meaningless "investigations" instead of indictments are undertaken by the "opposition", with the aim of stalling things to the point where the American people will weary of it all and accept the despotic rule of some of the worst villians to crawl out from under a rock. THIS is a dictatorship, folks. If we can do what we've done and are doing to the Iraqis, do you think for a minute this same regime won't turn on us if their rule is threatened, and with the same mindless fury they've shown in Iraq?

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» Answer: $$$$$ Posted by: mizipi
» RE: Answer: $$$$$ Posted by: Basenjis
» RE: Answer: $$$$$ Posted by: richholland
A favor to ask of you...
Posted by: alternetrose on Jul 21, 2007 10:59 AM   
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I have a favor to ask you...everyone posting here, and those who have dropped by to only read Dahr's report and the following list of comments.

First, thanks for you taking time out from your busy lives to think about what is happening to the people of Iraq, also to think about the role our government has in their country. Most here question our governments intentions, to put it mildly, most agree we, the American public, are not very well informed, and many feel deeply saddened by conditions the Iraqis are forced to live (and die). No one seems to know what we, the general public, can effectively do to change these things?

In my humble opinion, I believe the solution lies with each of us, AND we cannot delay our responsibilities much longer.

To initiate change one must be informed. But, then how can WE gather the momentum for this change, if so few know what are happening? To begin, copy, paste, and print out the article by Dahr Jamail. Next at the bottom of this page, hand write or type a short note about what you feel about the Iraqi situation - and hopefully you will mention that learning more about it is what you want your local news sources to uncover and report on. Tell the newspaper editors and television and radio station producers that they are failing their community (and the world, in fact) by not reporting the real situation in Iraq. Let them know you want more information because you no longer trust this government to provide forthwith and truthful accounts.

For every unseen fallen American soldier's body, unloaded from planes in the secrecy of night, every body remains found on the streets of Iraq, in their memory, and every orphaned child in that country, and your own children, in our country, saddled with the debt to pay for this war depends on us to assume our responsibility to end the occupation of Iraq and to call for those responsible, to be held accountable.

Thanks.

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» Thank you. m. Posted by: lwbaby
When PROFITS $$$ and "STRATEGIC THINKING" Comes First
Posted by: sofla100 on Jul 21, 2007 11:39 AM   
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L. Paul Bremmer in his autobiography about the beginning of the Iraq occupation brags about it being "an achievement," how he tried to move Iraq to "privitization" of it's services and industries. From the beginning then, the Iraq occupation was based on idealogically driven, foolish thinking, and this disaster now just gets worse. First of all, YOU DO NOT try to privatize services that are in a shambles to begin with. Essential services first need to be developed as public resources, such as the electrical grid and water distribuition. Only after, usually many years later and after societal stability, could you try to privatize. But, to do it with services that are not even yet available to the public is really INSANE. We can only assume the greed and hubris of the occupation was so extreme all they could see were dollar signs. As for the suffering of the Iraqi people, they need to be seen as more than just "stepping stones" to profit. When the concerns are on the Halliburtons, Bechtel's and the other contractors, and their profits, the people get cast aside. Couple that with the need for American leaders to engage in "strategic thinking," and "protecting Israeli and American interests in the region," and the needs of the people don't even seem to exist. I mean, if profits and bases in the region are so important; people dying, starving and not having clean water to drink becomes just part of the "price they have to pay." Unbelievable.

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We all want to believe otherwise...
Posted by: Pirate1 on Jul 21, 2007 6:06 PM   
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... but this is what we are... we respond to the conditions immediately before us and become what is necessary to survive and prosper there... Here we are asked to hawk our lives in exchange for material excess, and lots of us do that admirably... in Iraq, people risk their lives for WATER and food for crossing a highway, for being Iraqis... I don't think the majority population is really any more concerned with the suffering that the average "Good German" was when news trickled in of the attrocities that government was about under Hitler and crew. Just notice sometime... threaten to remove a person's "right", say, to drive their ATVs or Jet Skis through any habitat they please and you have a riot and congress is flooded with mail. Tell them about the suffering in Iraq and they turn the channel or wring their plump hands and say "Those poor people..." Alternet seems one place where genuinely conscious and concerned people actually try to affect popular opinion but most folks would rather watch Jackass or Jerry Springer than concern themselves with the reality so many around the world experience DAILY as a result of the policy of THIS NATION in order that all those contented, somnambulent, chubby little consumers will never be disappointed when they shop. It's disgusting.

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» Applause. mn Posted by: lwbaby
labels as such.
Posted by: Janpzz on Jul 21, 2007 9:58 PM   
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Wanna get nitpicky? Why wasn't labels spelled correctly?
For the simple reason that the author of the labels (lables rhymes with tables) reply could not respond to the gist of the article, because he is living in his own kind of hell. I try to imagine what it would be like to live in a place of war. I can't, so I relate it to my own war, here in my own life. What turns up is a relating to the human conditon in general, which generates compassion, which in turn generates wanting to do something about it. I won't go to Iraq and do something about it, even though many are suffering there. But I will reach out to those in my immediate neighborhood, and try to be of help.
So when we learn compassion, we know it's not about being nice, but being able to relate our humaness to any situation.

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beginnings are important
Posted by: anise on Jul 22, 2007 12:55 AM   
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This country began on an evil note. witness the wiping out of 80 million original inhabitants and the enslavement of the African continent. Most of the inhabitants are out of touch with nature and the planet we live on . The religion of the cultures that were wiped out by these disconnects were Earth and Sun based worship, witness the comments about defining schizophrenia when such mean spiritness is going on: sounds like a people cut off from life energy to me

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Call it Kharma or whatever
Posted by: macdon1 on Jul 22, 2007 2:28 PM   
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Most Americans could care less about what is happening outside their own frame of reference. It's the "American Way". Some of us have a more realistic view of the world and of our government, but it doesn't change anything. The average American just doesn't want to know about human suffering and is definitely living in that "bubble" that Dahr talks about. Maybe we don't see it, but many, many people in other countries do, and hate us violently for it. Call it Kharma or whatever, but that precarious bubble may burst at any time and then all of us will learn the meaning of human suffering firsthand.

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That would be Walt Disney land, Time Warner land, Newscorp land, GE land...
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Jul 22, 2007 4:19 PM   
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This is a government and an administration that is entirely obssessed with public image and propaganda, and their allies own all the major US news corporations, from the New York Times (they share board members with the Carlyle Group) right across the board.

Disney is ABC, TimeWarner is CNN, Newscorp is FOX, and CBS is supposedly 'independent' after splitting off from Viacom... right.

Here, for your reading enjoyment, are links to yahoo finance on the major shareholders of all the prominent media corporations:

General Electric (NBC)

Time Warner (CNN)

NewsCorp (FOX)

Viacom (was CBS)

Disney! (ABC)

Clear Channel

Tribune newspapers

The New York Times

Gannet Newspapers

Dow Jones newspapers (soon to be FOX newspapers)

Mcgraw-Hill 'educational materials'

You'll see a lot of the same names in the shareholder lists... and if you look at who owns the major oil, phamaceutical, agribusiness and weapons manufacturers, you'll see the same names.

Shareholders elect the boards of directors of corporations, and they all sing the same corporate tune. The corporations have made billions off the Iraq war, and they want to secure control over Iraqi oil - don't expect their bootlicking editors and executives to tell the US public what is really going on in the Middle East.

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Excecutive priveledge,and impeachment not a option
Posted by: SJ on Jul 22, 2007 6:18 PM   
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We must rely on our constitution. Stop giving them our money boy cot. and protest! Other choices, more death and escalation of terrorism. from the Declaration of Independence:

“Whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these [the rights of the population], it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness... [W]hen a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.”

IT IS OUR RIGHT AS A FREE PEOPLE. SPEAK OUT JOIN LOCAL PICKETING BE SEEN AND HEARD.

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IRAQ stop, what next
Posted by: richholland on Jul 23, 2007 3:10 AM   
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USA has no choise, soon your $$ will drop in value to Yen and Euro.
As Adolf Hitler wrote in his book "Mein Kampf"
- An imperium needs war to obtain raw material from smaller and weaker countries......
Believe me next CUBA is on the list.

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RE: And now for a message from the war sponsors
Posted by: pleaseplanttrees on Jul 23, 2007 10:52 AM   
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God my best friend for over 18 years is a jew i call him the reincarnation of Ghandi. However if one merely points out all the paranoid jewish influence in our government and the unfailing unquestioned support for the very historical cause of terroism in the first place: the creation of the state of ISREAL you are a anti-semite. It is beyond me how the neo-con jews who control our government policy could and would actually adopt the nazis techniques for manipulating the masses in the name of corporate freedoms and a free market economy. The irony and downright immoral audacity of the pnac lieberman-kristol types to use nazis like techniques at propaganda to continue a war that only benefits the delusional thinking and interests of wealthy oil companies and the paranoid state of isreal is stunning in its hypocracy.

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