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Bush Government to Poor Voters: We Don't Want You to Vote

By Steven Rosenfeld, AlterNet. Posted July 17, 2007.


The Justice Department is pressuring 10 states to purge their voter rolls, while states are ignoring laws to help low-income Americans register to vote.
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State welfare offices across the country are not offering millions of low-income Americans the opportunity to register to vote when applying for public assistance despite a federal law requiring them to do so, according to an analysis of a recent federal voting registration report and experts who say the Department of Justice and states are to blame.

"It's huge. It's another area where the administration is failing us," said Donna Brazile, chair of the Democratic National Committee's Voting Rights Institute, speaking of the Department of Justice's oversight of the nation's voter registration laws. "They are not pushing states to recognize their voter registration responsibilities."

At the same time, the Justice Department's Voting Section, which enforces voting rights and supervises elections in some states, is pressuring 10 states to do more to purge voter rolls -- or remove ineligible voters -- before the 2008 presidential election, according to letters sent to state election officials this spring.

"We conducted an analysis of each state's total voter registration numbers as a percentage of citizen voting age population," wrote John Tanner, the Department of Justice Voting Section chief, in an April 18, 2007, letter to North Carolina's top election official. "We write now to assess the changes in your voter registration list ... and the subsequent removal of persons no longer eligible to vote."

Cynthia Magnuson, a Justice Department spokeswoman, confirmed in an e-mail that similar letters had been sent to 10 states, but did not list the recipients. "The Department actively works with all states to comply with all provisions of the statutes we enforce," she said.

Voter lists are updated because people move, die or lose their right to vote if convicted of felonies. But because this process occurs out of public view and without much regulation, it can be open to partisan abuse or produce incorrect results, such as in Florida in 2000 when an estimated 50,000 voters were incorrectly removed from voter registration lists.

The contrast of a Justice Department that apparently has not enforced voter registration opportunities for poor people -- who tend to vote Democratic -- and a department that is pressuring states to more thoroughly trim voter rolls has prompted some voting rights advocates to accuse the agency of selective enforcement and partisan bias.

"I think it's pretty clear the Justice Department is pursing a partisan agenda to get states to purge voters while ignoring requirements to get states to register voters," said Michael Slater, deputy director of Project Vote, a national nonprofit specializing in voter registration drives targeting low- and moderate-income families.

Voting Section chief John Tanner did return a telephone call to discuss his office's priorities and accomplishments. On Monday, July 16, the House Judiciary Committee announced it was postponing a hearing scheduled for Tuesday, July 17 "because the Department refused to make Voting Section chief John Tanner available to testify," its press release said.

However, Hans A. Von Spakovsky, a former assistant attorney general who served four years as a top Civil Rights Division lawyer overseeing the Voting Rights Section discussed accusations of changing "the enforcement direction of the department" in a June 29, 2007, letter to the Senate Rules Committee. He became a federal elections commissioner in December 2005, and his appointment is under review.

Von Spakovsky's 18-page letter is a detailed defense of some of the department's most controversial recent rulings, such as approving a Texas congressional redistricting plan and a Georgia voter I.D. law that later was blocked in court as a violation of the Constitutional amendment barring poll taxes. Nowhere in the often-technical letter is any mention in section 7 of the National Voter Registration Act (NVRA), which is intended to help poor people vote by requiring state welfare agencies to offer the chance to register.

Instead, Von Spakovsky defended an aggressive stance with enforcing the NVRA's voter purge provisions, which fall under section 8 of the law. "The division could not willfully ignore the list maintenance requirements of the NVRA," he wrote. "It is the responsibility of DOJ to enforce these laws."

While the national media has followed the department's firing of U.S. attorneys who, in some cases, did not pursue voter fraud cases -- another priority of longtime GOP lawyer-activists like Von Spakovsky -- the department's oversight of the nation's voter rolls has mostly gone unnoticed. The potential impact on the 2008 election could be enormous, however, especially if millions of disenfranchised people registered and voted.

A just-released federal voter registration report reveals the stakes. In late June, the Election Assistance Commission issued a biennial voter registration report to Congress for 2005 and 2006. The report found that 16.6 million new registration applications were received by state motor vehicles agencies while only 527,752 applications came from state public assistance offices -- a 50 percent drop from 2003-2004. The report also found 13.0 million voters were purged nationwide and 9.9 million were put on "inactive" status, meaning these people have to provide identification before receiving a 2008 ballot.

The potential number of public assistance recipients who could register runs into the millions. According to the Health Resources and Services Administration's FY 2008 budget, federally subsidized "health centers" will serve an estimated 16.3 million patients, a population where "91 percent are at or below 200 percent of the federal poverty level, 64 percent are from racial/ethnic minority groups and 40 percent are uninsured." This is the same population who typically seek a variety of federally subsidized public assistance, from food stamps to fuel assistance to welfare.

Another indication of how many poor people could register is Tennessee, whose elections are federally supervised. From 2005-2006, Tennessee registered 120,992 people at public assistance offices -- nearly a quarter of the national total, the EAC reported. Tennessee registered more voters than the combined totals of welfare office registrations from California, Colorado, Florida, Illinois, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Texas, Virginia and Washington.

Karen Lynn Dyson, EAC Research director, said there were several reasons why many states have not made voter registration more available through public assistance agencies. First, the NVRA was passed in 1993, and many state and county election officials have been paying more attention to newer federal election mandates and transitioning to new voting machines. Moreover, many state welfare agencies don't see voter registration in their job descriptions -- despite the federal law. The same factors were also cited by Project Vote's Michael Slater, who emphasized that low-income people tend to move more often than better-off Americans.

"Our organization exists to correct the problem that voting is skewed toward upper-income folks," he said. "We are trying to make voting more representative of the population."

Justice Department spokesperson Cynthia Magnuson cited two department enforcement actions concerning increased voter registration; suing New York in 2004 because its state universities did not "offer voter registration opportunities at those offices serving students with disabilities," and the department's 2002 suit against Tennessee, which led to federal oversight of its elections. The New York suit is still pending.

Scott Novakowski, a senior policy analyst at Demos, a centrist public policy group based in New York that has followed this issue for several years, said it was ironic the Justice Department cited Tennessee because that state's welfare office registrations reveal how many potential voters could be involved if the department enforced the law.

"This is not a lot of numbers until you see Tennessee," he said. "We have looked at how many people can feasibly get on the rolls and it is enormous. Tennessee is under a court order and is doing it right. If you look at the number of people who go through public assistance offices, in some states it is in the millions."

The public interest groups that have tracked this issue -- Demos, Project Vote, ACORN and the Lawyers Committee for Civil Rights Under Law -- have issued reports citing a steady downward trend in these voter registrations and met with Justice Department officials in 2005 to present their findings and concerns.

"In January 2005, we had a 10-year report, which documented the 59 percent decline from 1995 through 2004," Novakowski said, adding follow-up letters cited violations from Arizona, Connecticut, Florida, Massachusetts, Missouri, Montana, New Jersey, Pennsylvania and Tennessee. "John Conyers (now the House Judiciary Committee chairman) and 29 other representatives asked Attorney General Alberto Gonzales to look into this, and there was no response."

This spring, after learning of Voting Section letters to North Carolina and Kentucky pressuring those states to more aggressively purge their voter lists, the same coalition called on the House and Senate Judiciary committees to investigate the "selective enforcement" of voter registration laws.

"We are concerned that the Justice Department's Voting Section is ignoring the primary purpose of NVRA to "establish procedures that will increase the number if eligible citizens who register to vote in elections for federal office."" it wrote in a May 8, 2007, letter. "Instead, the Voting Section is concentrating its NVRA enforcement priority on pressuring states to conduct massive purges of their voter rolls."

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Steven Rosenfeld is a senior fellow at Alternet.org and co-author of What Happened in Ohio: A Documentary Record of Theft and Fraud in the 2004 Election, with Bob Fitrakis and Harvey Wasserman (The New Press, 2006).

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Compulsory I.D. System works in Europe - why not USA?
Posted by: ZPaul on Jul 17, 2007 12:13 AM   
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This is one reason why I think you Americans should reconsider the obligatory I.D. system, which makes it so much easier to vote in Europe, and stop being so obsessed with the "the government will control me then" business. Looks to me like they´re controlling you more this way, because the register-to-vote system doesn´t seem to me to be designed to work for democracy, but rather against it, by helping to make it more difficult for poor people to vote.

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» And here's one way to make it work. Posted by: KeepsonTickn
» Except that it would work. Posted by: KeepsonTickn
» Leap of logic Posted by: Rune
» RE: Leap of logic Posted by: KeepsonTickn
Sorry, I Should Have Mentioned...
Posted by: ZPaul on Jul 17, 2007 12:44 AM   
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Sorry, I should have mentioned that it´s Spain and Greece where I.D.´s are compulsory, not all European countries.

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Voter registration in Germany
Posted by: sapatatanka on Jul 17, 2007 1:13 AM   
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is automatic if you are registered as a resident somewhere whithin Germany (which is required by law). Usually a month or so before an election (municipal, state or federal), you will receive a voter card, which you must bring to your polling station. I have never been asked for my ID card (which I always must carry with me, again by law), although I might be.

I can't speak for other European countries, but this well-established procedure at least ensures you can vote - and the only way for the state to rescind your voting right is through the courts - always in connection to criminal trial.

Naturally, the requirement to always carry our ID card and to always be registered at your place of residence (there are relatively stiff fines for non-compliance) is a repressive measure - but that is a different discussion.

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» RE: Voter registration in Germany Posted by: richholland
DON'T REGISTER THEM
Posted by: gellero on Jul 17, 2007 1:41 AM   
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If citizens are not interested enough in civic matters to register themselves to vote, it's a GOOD thing. Universal suffrage and democracy are not always the best way to get things done. A homeless alcoholic on welfare with no education should not have the same influence on policy as an alternet poster. That may be elitist, but it is wise.

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Registering to vote is easy for anyone with an IQ of 75 or better.
Posted by: White middleclass male on Jul 17, 2007 2:33 AM   
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You can register online or at a post office. Some groups will set up shop in supermarkets and mall parking lots around election time to register people and hand out their party’s literature.

It seems the poor are too stupid to even register to vote. Good. I’ll make sure to vote republican to cut their public assistance programs further. Do zebras give the feeble members of their herd a head start to avoid the lions? Why should I care about people that are too pathetic to do anything for themselves? Natural selection applies to people too.

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» RE: Please don't vote Posted by: borat99
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strange democrazy in the USA
Posted by: richholland on Jul 17, 2007 3:21 AM   
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Since a couple of years everybody in the Netherlands needs on IDcard or passport.
But automatically the government sends you an invitation to vote on your registrated adress.

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» RE: strange democrazy in the USA Posted by: albrechtkrausse
» ANTIQUATED?? Posted by: gellero
Every Man a King
Posted by: shangrilalad on Jul 17, 2007 4:01 AM   
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Republicans have long clamored for shrinking government, but their real goal has always been to privatize and corrupt government, including schools, the military, the police, and virtually every agency that promotes and protects the common good. What they really intend to do, is privatize and become government. What republicans actually despise is equality and democracy, not government.

In their heart of hearts, all republicans want to be Rulers. From the richest republican right down to the poorest, they all lust for power over their fellow man. For rich and middleclass republicans it’s a matter of class domination, for the "poor white trash" at the bottom, it’s race domination. They yearn for a world where Every Man is King, with the power to dominate and abuse everyone on a lower rung of the ladder.

Republicans will destroy America to achieve their cherished dream. It’s their nature.

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The Road To Totalitarianism
Posted by: Tom Degan on Jul 17, 2007 4:14 AM   
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Words fail me....

Has anyone out there compiled a list of impeachable offences that this disgusting, nightmare of an administration can be charged with? I imagine that it would go on for pages and pages. Is there anyone out there so out of touch that still insists on believeing that sending this corrupt, half-witted little frat boy to the oval office - to the White House - was a good idea? Please make yourselves known.

Who among us is still so drugged up on Stupid Pills that they don't believe that there is not enough evidence to send this hideous little thug and Dick Cheney to federal prison for the rest of their lives?

This is a man who at one time called Jesus Christ his favorite "philosopher" (the fact that he was unable to distinguish pilosophy from theology seems not to have dawned on anyone but me at the time - seriously) The fact that he would try to disenfranchise the poorest among us his revealing. Did he ever even read the Sermon on the Mount?

"Blessed are the meek."

No question about it: under this administration, the meek have been getting the shaft.

Pray for peace.

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
"The Rant" by Tom Degan

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For Those Of You Who Are Saying "It´s The Stupid Poor´s Fault"
Posted by: ZPaul on Jul 17, 2007 4:29 AM   
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Just to give one example from this very article of how registration does not guarantee that the registered will be able to vote: "Voter lists are updated because people move, die or lose their right to vote if convicted of felonies. But because this process occurs out of public view and without much regulation, it can be open to partisan abuse or produce incorrect results, such as in Florida in 2000 when more than 50,000 voters were incorrectly removed from voter registration lists." With a compulsory I.D. system, this would be much more unlikely to happen, because the only registration necessary would be the registration of residence necessary to obtain the I.D. In Europe, depending on your age, the I.D. is good for 5 or 10 years. As this article points out, it´s not only that the poor don´t register, but that significant numbers of those who do register are disenfranchised of their votes unfairly. There are people making comments here who are implying that the poor do not deserve to live under democratic principles because they are too stupid. Attitudes like these are very dangerous if what the majority of us want is a free and democratic society. Frankly, I believe that a key way of judging whether a society is civilized, educated and humane is by observing how it treats its more vulnerable members.

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All you should need to vote is a photo I.D.
Posted by: kbest on Jul 17, 2007 4:49 AM   
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Prove you are who you say you are. That will cut out the Democrat plans to buy votes with packs of cigarettes for the homeless. It will also eliminate votes coming from abandoned buildings, parking lots, gravesites and vacant land.

If someone is to poor to get this photo I.D. then one will be provided free. Even the elderly support this because they know their vote will not be compromised by vote fraud. This is what Republicans want in the United States. But Democrats fight this because then they can't cheat, like bringing in busloads of people to the polls with only a name and address even though it is not theirs.

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US needs an Electorial Commission
Posted by: phindrup on Jul 17, 2007 5:51 AM   
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Love all these authoritarian people who spout the virtues of ID cards!

Perhaps you ought look at the Australian system where the electoral commission is a totally independent body. It maintains the electoral roll and organises everything to do with the running of the election.
Enrolment is compulsory. As is voting — with which I do not agree — and if you don’t vote you get a ‘please explain’ letter and a fine if you do not have a good reason for not having voted.
The absolute certainty is that neither the government, state or federal, nor the justice department outh to have anything to do with organising elections.

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» I Like That Post Posted by: gellero
DISENFRANCHISING POOR PEOPLE
Posted by: pieman on Jul 17, 2007 6:15 AM   
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I SMELL A RED HERRING IN THIS!!! THIS REMINDS ME OF THE NUREMBURG LAWS ENACTED BY HITLER IN 1938 WHICH DISCRIMINATED JEWS....WELL THE POOR ARE BEING SCAPEGOATED BY THE BUSHIES!!! THIS SMACKS OF NAZI TACTICS!!! WE MUST MAKE WAVES TO STOP THE SHIT FROM HAPPENING!!!!
THIS IS A PRELUDE TO A SUPER-POLICE STATE ALA PINOCHET'S CHILE

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» WHAT YOU SHOULD DO Posted by: gellero
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Easy On The Bold, Partner!
Posted by: InsertNameHere on Jul 17, 2007 7:21 AM   
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Have you ever noticed that the most ignorant garbage posted on the internet is usually written in ALL CAPS or all in bold? This is frequently accompanied by poor grammar and spelling.

They are the kind of people who don't talk to people, they talk at people...usually yelling incessantly.

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» You Talkn' to ME....???? Posted by: gellero
Homeless alcoholics vs Wealthy alcoholics like Bush?
Posted by: brotherjonah on Jul 17, 2007 7:33 AM   
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GW and Cheney had to play musical states with their own voter registrations.

Little known fact here, poor people aren't all or even mostly in the ranks of poverty because of ignorance, stupidity, insanity or substance abuse. Not even the ranks of the homeless have a majority whose homelessness is caused by these problems.

If it were that simple it would have been fixed long ago. In Colorado, the law is you must not have changed your address less than 30 days before the election, which knocks migrant workers off the rolls, homeless people of course, anybody who changed residences, usually due to poverty.

There was a provision when our nation was young that only people who owned property could vote. Tenants were automatically excluded.

These "continuity of residency" loopholes are, purely and simply, to the vast benefit of the very rich. Since the majority of Americans aren't actually homeowners,, the homeowners and slumlords would have to have some sort of enhancement of their political clout, to make their votes count for more than the majority.

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Depart of Justice
Posted by: JSquercia on Jul 17, 2007 8:01 AM   
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The DOJ has become merely another wing of the Republican Party under this Administration. yesterday Harriet Miers did NOT even show up to testify before the Congress . She may be charged with Contempt of Congress but you rest assured the DOJ will refuse to arrest her . Congress does have the authority to not only arrest her BUT also to try her .
It has not been used in something like 80 years but it still exists , at least for now .
Sadly I have almost as little faith in the Supreme Court as I do in the Justice Department . They just recently overturned a ruling about Price fixing Agreements that had stood since 1911 . Prior to this such agreeemnt were automatically considered anti trust violations now they are to be decided on a case by case basis . Of course it will up to some poor retailer or Consumer to fight a Corporation
like GE in court . If it is a consumer the court will likely rule that they have no standing to sue since they can't prove THEY were harmed . They used this to deny people suing over the warrantless wiretaps their right .to sue . It placed them in the Catch-22 of trying to prove they were on the list which the government will not provide due to " National Security "
National Security and Executive Priviledge are the way the Bush Executive branch hides its actions from Oversight , Now they are even claiming Executive Priviledge over the inquiry about the misinformation about the death of Pat Tillman even though Bush says he was NOT involved .

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» RE: all of human history Posted by: shangrilalad
If Greg Palast is right
Posted by: willymack on Jul 17, 2007 8:46 AM   
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The 2008 "election" has ALREADY been rigged. He explains how in his revised edition of "Armed Madhouse". Let's face it; does anyone think the rethugs have any chance at all in a FAIR election? Just look at the schlock "candidates" they've paraded before us to date. Look for a stellar latecomer, like Jeb to arrive at the scene with all the attendant hoopla from our controlled press and TV "news" stations sometime in the next 6 months or so. It's either that or another 9/11 to scare the daylights out of us. In either case, the rethugs will be seeking an EMOTIONAL response, rather than a reasoned and logical one from our citizens. Let's hope there aren't as many fools falling for their dirty lies as in 2000 & 2004, next time around.

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The poor don't deserve to vote?
Posted by: stormchilde1975 on Jul 17, 2007 9:02 AM   
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So far as I can figure, you don't have to "deserve" an "inalienable right". That's kind of the point of rights...

In any case, have any of you bigots managed to consider WHY it is that such a large proportion of our population lacks the skills and knowledge to participate in democracy? You're absolutely right that the bar is set pretty low: so why aren't our public schools systems able to get them up there? Jefferson said that education was vital to democracy, and it seems clear that he would not be pleased with our failures in that regard.

Doubtless, the bigots will be eager to blame poor kids for being lazy and unambitious, and say that they don't "deserve" a quality education. But education is the responsibilty of professional educators, not minor children. If people with power and wisdom continue to place responsibility for the nation's failures on the victims of those failures, their neglect of duty is bound to bear ugly fruit.

Responsibility comes in proportion to power: the powerful, not the powerless, are responsible for the current state of affairs, and they have a duty to either responsibly employ or else relinquish their authority.

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Voting Rights
Posted by: danmaeso on Jul 17, 2007 10:05 AM   
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So what else is new. What would you expect from a Justice Department headed by Gonzo, a puppet for Bush and Rove?

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al-FDA to The Republican-Taliban America is under attack..!
Posted by: TJ-stars4peace on Jul 17, 2007 10:44 AM   
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The Justice Department is infested with Federalist Society zealots..!

We are at a Constitutional crisis and a plot to overthrow our very system of government is underway..!

There are still some good people at the Justice dept. and many others have resigned as it is now just an appendage of the Unitary Executive..!

Look close at any issue and the stench of the Federalist Society will cause your eyes to water and throat to close up..!

Scalia and Alito and Thomas, Roberts even maybe sadly Kennedy are committed to altering America forever..for the worse..and establishing the supremacy of the Unitary Dictator..!

Why would you think these Tory swine would want to poor to vote..?

The shameless Republican Taliban is just a rubber stamp for this huge C change in our system of governance this treason..

It's pervading our system every agency from Katrina and the war on the workers to the children of the poorest Americans and health care..to al-FDA killing thousands of Americans every year and allowing China to poison our food and selling drug companies to sell bad drugs that kill us..

America is at war we are under attack and the biggest threat is from within..!

Perhaps Chertoff's "gut feeling" was from poisoned Chinese seafood and not al-Qaeda but al-FDA..and Zawacheney..!

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Hopefully, with Obama in the running, people will be motivated
Posted by: veggiegrrrl on Jul 17, 2007 10:49 AM   
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Hopefully, with Obama in the running, people will be motivated to register and vote!!

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The 2000 election was stolen. The 2004 election was stolen.
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Jul 17, 2007 11:02 AM   
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The only reason Bush wasn't thrown out of office in 2002 or 2003 is that 19 people, mostly from Saudi Arabia, managed to hijack four airplanes and crash three of them into very symbolic US targets - the WTC and the Pentagon.

The guy stole the election, with the aid of the Supreme Court in what will probably go down as the worst Supreme Court decision since the Dred Scott decision - you know, the one that helped start the Civil War?

It'd be incredibly easy to set up a solid voter registration system that counted everyone and did a good job of it. Just get the IRS to run the voting system - they don't seem to have a problem with accidentally erasing people from their lists.

There has been a move for years to get states to register voters when they get their drivers licences, but Republicans always go overboard to stop this from happening. Why? They know that poor people are smart enough not to vote Republican, is why.

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Democratic Candidates ! Get Out the Vote !
Posted by: US Citizen on Jul 17, 2007 11:04 AM   
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It is time for the Democrats to mount the biggest "get out the Vote" drive ever. Every Democrat should be working to get as many poor voters to register, and there should be MASSIVE "Get OUt the Votes" rallies.
Do you hear me John Edwards ? Hilary ? Obama ?
Here is a very good way one of the lesser candidates could become famous.
Organize the biggest "Get Out the Vote" rally ever.
It needs to be done with this corrupt President and Attorney General ! Wouldn't that be refreshing to have a massive "Get out the Vote" rally. It would be a way to make nearly everyone to feel good about Democrats before the election, and it would show the nation how sick George W., Cheney, and Gonzales really are.

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If National ID is mandated... what then?
Posted by: brotherjonah on Jul 17, 2007 11:10 AM   
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If we concede to the Power Brokers and actually take the Mark of the Beast, which incidentally would be the ONLY universally verifiable form, of Identification, what then? At that point, we would have already lost any rights as a domocracy, or as a republic if you insist, any and every individual action of the individual person will be Government controlled and Government monitored.

But, hey, only the criminals fear the police, Right? or simply "right wing"?

It's amazing how many of these right wing thugs CLAIM to be Fundamentalist Christians and simultaneously set up the mechanisms for a One World Government, One World Religion, One World Order.

Schicklegroeber Bush's own daddy used to babble about the New World Order (that would be King George The Not Quite As Stupid.)

Me calling him Herr Schicklegroeber is a direct insult, he's got Nazi support even if he claims not to be one, or even if he personally isn't actually a Nazi, but only attempting to use them the same way he uses Fundamentalist Christianity.

The Nazis know what it means.. Their Fuhrer was born out of wedlock, and his "father" was merely a guess. And his father's name.

I know plenty of people born out of wedlock, it's a shame they have to share the name bastard with that punk. Or with GW even though there's no proof that King George The Not So Thick was not actually his daddy.

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Let em' vote!
Posted by: marxleft2day on Jul 17, 2007 11:53 AM   
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We all know that the poor will vote themselves a greater portion of the public treasury which is what Marxism and therefore, the New Left Democratic Party is all about today. They are not property owners so they generally don’t care that Americans will have to pay for their social programs. Let em’ vote our elites in!

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» RE: Let em' vote! Posted by: Mamarianne
Blowback...
Posted by: marxleft2day on Jul 17, 2007 2:31 PM   
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As the last 700 years of Islamic aggression is blowback as well I presume? This is one thing we must acknowledge regardless of the, an enemy of my enemy is a friend of mine philosophy. We will as a socialist democratic nation or as a republic have to face the fact that they don’t hate us because of Bush and Cheney or any other American foreign policy of America’s past, they hate us because we are not Islamic just as they fight those Muslims who are not “Islamic enough” in other Islamic nations. Take off the blinders and face reality. They hate liberalism in the truest form and most certainly of the contemporary Leftist incarnation.

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» A Barbarian Age Posted by: gellero
Poor people, and the Real Americans, we need to register to vote
Posted by: eosrk on Jul 17, 2007 3:45 PM   
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so assholes can't take rob our country.....again, and again, and again.

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Surprise
Posted by: hangman on Jul 17, 2007 7:29 PM   
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so it sounds like about 22 million citizens are being cut out of the process of their democratic right to vote. Is that what is going on? discrimination based on level of income and status?

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» RE: Surprise Posted by: marxleft2day
Minnesota has for decades had the highest voter turnout in the nation.
Posted by: johngary66 on Jul 17, 2007 9:34 PM   
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You can register to vote the day of the election with a person to vouch that you live in the ward or an even electric bill . The vote is usually in the area of 75% of eligible voters. Minnesota also consistantly rank at or near the top in quality of life and many other areas. Including graduation rates and college attendance. Rethugs have tried for years to change the voting laws, but can never show any problems where none exist.

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» RE: facts on Minnesota. Posted by: albrechtkrausse
» RE: facts on Minnesota. Posted by: johngary66
A problem looming or merely a bunch of numbers?
Posted by: anothername on Jul 18, 2007 1:00 PM   
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Voting, as with much else in the United States, is controlled by the states, the counties, and even individual precincts. Federal rules can be issued for federal elections, but there is still wide latitude in each state and with precinct judges and observers. This article notes just one small part of the big picture.

The Help America Vote Act (HAVA) allows grants to be given for colleges and universities to promote voting among students. There is no equivalent funding allowed for people who do not continue education past high school. This also discriminates against low-income families.

There are many questions that come to mind reading this article. Are women seeking public assistance more than men and is this a matter of gender bias as well as or instead of economics? Do people registering for public assistance not want to have their names associated as having been registered when they sought (hopefully temporary) public assistance, whether that would be the case or not? Are public assistance applicants homeless or in shelters and not in a position that they are thinking about voting, considering it somewhat less important than getting away from the rapes, hail storms, or blistering heat to which they might be exposed because of their lack of money?

Are people registering cars more likely to think about voting because they can see political decisions giving them more roads and rules about driving, where people on public assistance don't see how their vote will make any difference since it all depends on who runs the public housing unit in which they live?

As with everything else I've seen come from the Election Assistance Commission, created by HAVA, the numbers cited in this article do not really give me confidence that the federal government has a clue about what really needs to be done to draw Americans to the voting booth.

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I don't get it
Posted by: hilaryuk on Jul 18, 2007 2:55 PM   
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In the UK every household annually receives a registration form - which covers every member of the the household. Thus, the election register is updated routinely. Last year I was late filling in our form and received a visit from a local council employee to encourage me to complete it. Its a simple system, so why does the US have such difficulty with what should be a straightforward administrative process. Why do you tolerate it? I am genuinely mystified.

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» RE: I don't get it Posted by: Aussie Kim
» RE: I don't get it Posted by: macdon1
» RE: I don't get it Posted by: marxleft2day
To The Arrogant Republicrats Who have Posted Here(YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE)
Posted by: macdon1 on Jul 18, 2007 10:26 PM   
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I am not a property owner and don't make much money but I am a responsible citizen and take my voting seriously. Income level is not necessarily an indicator of intelligence or education, especially in a rat-eat-rat society like this one. In fact, an increasing number of people in America are wealthy because they are totally ruthless, without any moral compass and are willing to do whatever it takes to get rich.

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No more poll taxes
Posted by: Reader11722 on Jul 19, 2007 10:29 AM   
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Preventing the poor from voting, yet another infringement on our rights by the gov't. Add it to the ever-growing list of violations:
They violate the 1st Amendment by opening mail, caging demonstrators and banning books like "America Deceived" from Amazon.
They violate the 2nd Amendment by confiscating guns during Katrina.
They violate the 4th Amendment by conducting warrant-less wiretaps.
They violate the 5th and 6th Amendment by suspending habeas corpus.
They violate the 8th Amendment by torturing.
They violate the entire Constitution by starting 2 illegal wars based on lies and on behalf of a foriegn gov't.
Support Dr. Ron Paul and end this madness.
Last link (unless Stark County District Library caves to the gov't and drops the title):
America Deceived (book)

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