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Michael Moore to CNN: Say You're Sorry, and Correct Your Story!

By Michael Moore, MichaelMoore.com. Posted July 14, 2007.


After CNN ran a hit piece on SiCKO, Moore demands, "I expect CNN to put this matter to rest. Say you're sorry and correct your story -- like any good journalist would."
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The following is Michael Moore's latest attempt to keep CNN honest after running a hit piece report on Moore's health care documentary, SiCKO. The video to the right is of Moore talking about the controversy with Keith Olbermann on MSNBC.

Dear CNN,

Well, the week is over -- and still no apology, no retraction, no correction of your glaring mistakes.

I bet you thought my dust-up with Wolf Blitzer was just a cool ratings coup, that you really wouldn't have to correct the false statements you made about Sicko. I bet you thought I was just going to go quietly away.

Think again. I'm about to become your worst nightmare. 'Cause I ain't ever going away. Not until you set the record straight, and apologize to your viewers. "The Most Trusted Name in News?" I think it's safe to say you can retire that slogan.

You have an occasional segment called "Keeping Them Honest." But who keeps you honest? After what the public saw with your report on "Sicko," and how many inaccuracies that report contained, how can anyone believe anything you say on your network? In the old days, before the Internet, you could get away with it. Your victims had no way to set the record straight, to show the viewers how you had misrepresented the truth. But now, we can post the truth -- and back it up with evidence and facts -- on the web, for all to see. And boy, judging from the mail both you and I have been receiving, the evidence I have posted on my site about your "Sicko" piece has led millions now to question your honesty.

I won't waste your time rehashing your errors. You know what they are. What I want to do is help you come clean. Admit you were wrong. What is the shame in that? We all make mistakes. I know it's hard to admit it when you've screwed up, but it's also liberating and cathartic. It not only makes you a better person, it helps prevent you from screwing up again. Imagine how many people will be drawn to a network that says, "We made a mistake. We're human. We're sorry. We will make mistakes in the future -- but we will always correct them so that you know you can trust us." Now, how hard would that really be?

As you know, I hold no personal animosity against you or any of your staff. You and your parent company have been very good to me over the years. You distributed my first film, Roger & Me and you published Dude, Where's My Country? Larry King has had me on twice in the last two weeks. I couldn't ask for better treatment.

That's why I was so stunned when you let a doctor who knows a lot about brain surgery -- but apparently very little about public policy -- do a "fact check" story, not on the medical issues in Sicko, < but rather on the economic and political information in the film. Is this why there has been a delay in your apology, because you are trying to get a doctor to say he was wrong? Please tell him not to worry, no one is filing a malpractice claim against him. Dr. Gupta does excellent and compassionate stories on CNN about people's health and how we can take better care of ourselves. But when it came time to discuss universal health care, he rushed together a bunch of sloppy -- and old -- research. When his producer called us about his report the day before it aired, we sent to her, in an email, all the evidence so that he wouldn't make any mistakes on air. He chose to ignore ALL the evidence, and ran with all his falsehoods -- even though he had been given the facts a full day before! How could that happen? And now, for 5 days, I have /www.michaelmoore.com/sicko/checkup/setting-the-record-straight/">posted on my website, for all to see, every mistake and error he made.


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I love this guy.
Posted by: jmooney on Jul 14, 2007 7:37 AM   
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Go get 'em!

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» Did anyone notice Posted by: Nedtheredhead
This episode opened my eyes
Posted by: Blujay on Jul 14, 2007 7:48 AM   
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And CNN angers me further by virtually ignoring the Harriet Miers story and rehashing terror concerns.

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Good job, Michael!
Posted by: Brucewxx on Jul 14, 2007 7:57 AM   
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CNN used to be pretty good more than 10 years ago, with many objective reports. It has now become an another Fox News with trashing hosts like Grace and Becks. Everyone is using the platform as his/her personal outlet channel. It has no credibility any more.

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What credibility?
Posted by: g on Jul 14, 2007 8:21 AM   
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Two words: Lou Dobbs. His false stats about illegal immigrants bringing in leprosy. Has anyone seen any attempt from CNN to set the record straight? I thought so.

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Deliberate Baiting/Diversion....
Posted by: CatDad on Jul 14, 2007 8:38 AM   
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Again I state that we will never see univeral health care in the USA under our current conditions...and this article reflects why. The corporate media will not tolerate any ongoing and profound debate on our national shame of 47 millions Americans without access to health care in the world's wealthiest nation. Any profound "debate" will be intercepted and diverted away from the core issue of the critical need to provide health care to all Americans. CNN baited Moore into a mudslinging match with Gupta and it worked. They've successful diverted attention away from the core issue.

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» RE: worked like a charm Posted by: Ghoulman
» RE: worked like a charm Posted by: Lauren
THE MSM
Posted by: Roverton on Jul 14, 2007 8:53 AM   
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is dirt. Garbage. These reporters know better and they take their bag of coins. Paid mercenaries. I will not use the word "Whore". Whores don't kill, paid soldiers and hired assassins do - just like lies do.

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Keep up it Moore! But no single payer, only an extended Medicare
Posted by: Swedish liberal on Jul 14, 2007 9:03 AM   
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I am no fan of MM but in this issue he is correct, universal health care for all. I am however not so sure about a complete single payer system. I see a mixed system with an extended Medicare at the bottom and supplementary insurance at the top. The taxpayer will not stand for a system as fully developed as teh US is for all. The cost would be gigantic since the US spends 2-3 times more on health care. The cost must be kept low. It will be a tax increase of some 25 %. The taxpayer will not stand for it.

Does anybody know what the costs according to the Hillary Clinton plans was.

The system could be made up so in a first step to give Medicare to all but if you need better services you would have to have supplementary insurance. In this way all would be covered and the costs would be acceptable.

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what about msnbc?
Posted by: lordzombie on Jul 14, 2007 9:17 AM   
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they were hardly innocent in all this, i like olbermann, i like what he says, but he fell far short of an apology too

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» RE: what about msnbc? Posted by: SoCalLib
Media do not apologize and Moore do not either
Posted by: Swedish liberal on Jul 14, 2007 9:37 AM   
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Media and media people expose all other fallacies, falsification and outright lies but when it comes to owning up media never ever does that. This is a case of which statistics you use nothing else. Researchers can debate for ever over which statistic to use.

Moore himself was not completely above board neither in Roger and I, B f Columbine, F 911.

Media has a tendency to exaggerate to get their point of view a cross. Of course they tell you they are objective at least with MM you know he is extremely biased and non objective. It is refreshing.

I am very upset with media that hides their agenda as well as individual journalists. Journalists are often very liberal indeed but corporation owners are economic right but not necessarily moral conservatives.

In Sweden they do not have this difference between media and journalists all are extremely left liberal. It has as right wing talk radio in the US made the media climate extremely difficult. You cannot talk about reality you only talk about perceptions of reality. I have found that people of the left often cannot do the math, calculate the costs and people of the right sometimes lack compassion.

I am a liberal with compassion and a sound math knowledge. I always know that somebody has to pay for reforms and in 9 times out of 10 it is the average Joe. The rich peoples tax base is not large enough, do not let the extreme left fool you. They are less than 1 % of the population. The fairly rich is only 10 % and even they do not have a large tax base enough.

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» Fiscal Conservatives... Posted by: CatDad
» RE: Fiscal Conservatives... Posted by: Swedish liberal
» RE: Fiscal Conservatives... Posted by: CatDad
Best slam of the media since Jon Stewart destroyed 'Crossfire'
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Jul 14, 2007 10:09 AM   
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See the original Crossfire show at http://www.ifilm.com/video/2652831.

"It's not so mush as it's bad, as it's hurting America" - that's what soft-spoken, earnest, trustworthy, corporate talking head Wolf Blitzer is doing. "Stop hurting America, Wolf...".

Other great Jon Stewart quotes from that interview:

"You're not too rough on them, you're partisan hacks"

"It's interesting to hear you talk about my responsibility... the news corporations look to Comedy Central for their cues on integrity?"

"My point is this: if your idea of confronting me is that I don't ask hard-hitting enough news questions, we're in bad shape, fellers".

"We need help from the media, and they're hurting us."

"To do a debate would be great, but that's like saying pro wrestling is a show about athletic competition."

"Now this is theater...how old are you [35] - and you wear a bow tie? ... You are doing theater when you should be doing debate... it's not honest, what you do is partisan hackery."

"You have a responsibility to the public discourse, and you failed miserably...I watch your show every day, and it kills me... it's someone who watches your show and can't take it anymore".


Blitzer and Gupta do have to answer to their mindless profit-grubbing corporate bosses at TimeWarner. If we all follow Moore's proposal, that means the loss of billions in profits for the health care and pharmaceutical industries (pharmaceuticals are more profitable than health insurance).

It's true that this is a lot of advertising, but I doubt that most of the pressure is coming from that direction.

CNN is owned by TimeWarner. If we look into the corporate connection of the TimeWarner Board, we find names like Carla Anderson Hills, also on the board of AIG health insurance, with ties to Eli Lilly and Bristol Myers Squibb. Franklin Raines of TW is also on Pfizer's board. There are numerous other interlocking corporate board connections between TimeWarner and various healthcare corporations. See www.theyrule.net

There's also the shared shareholders. The investment banks and funds that own TimeWarner are also heavily invested in the very profitable healthcare and pharmaceutical industries, and don't want to see their profit margins undercut by a sensible and sane national health care plan. Barclays, Fidelity, State Street, AXA, etc - the names are less well known, but they tend to be the majority shareholders in all of the biggest US corporations.

Thus, you have a trifecta - advertising, interlocking corporate boards, and concentrated shareholder interests - which is preventing any meaningful change in US health care practices. Three cheers for Michael Moore for exposing these mafiosi artists for what they are!

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Café Media Elite.
Posted by: HughScott on Jul 14, 2007 10:38 AM   
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Every newscaster, talking head and political pundit on national television is paid more than $500,000 a year, has medical coverage and a guaranteed retirement plan.

Those who work in Washington, D.C. enjoy an additional benefit: free membership in a private Georgetown speakeasy named “Café Media Elite.” There you will find conservative, moderate and liberal news persons shaking hands, rubbing elbows and sharing the latest stock market tips.

Table chatter focuses on books, Broadway plays, movies and sports. The Iraq War? That’s Bush’s problem. Tax breaks for the rich? They’re working -- leave ‘em alone. Universal health care? Too complicated, it would never work.

Occasionally someone in the room mentions poverty. Meant as sarcasm, others at the table laugh, congratulate themselves again for being members of Café Media Elite, then return to more important matters -- such as which airline has the best First Class service.

Meanwhile, outside the Beltway, millions of hard-working Americans worry about no medical coverage, losing their jobs and how they will pay next month’s bills.

Meaningful news from mainstream outlets like CNN? Forget it!

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» RE: I saw it as a draw Posted by: Ripcord
cnn
Posted by: cwilsondrum on Jul 14, 2007 10:58 AM   
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does cnn think a 56 year old man(me) is going to forget this and move on??? I guarantee not! thanks michael moore. "medal of freedom winner" how does that sound? chuck wilson

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:D
Posted by: hurricane hugo on Jul 14, 2007 11:19 AM   
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Michael Moore for the win!

plur

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Go CNN... finally!
Posted by: Conservasaurus on Jul 14, 2007 12:03 PM   
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I have new respect for CNN... a basically "liberal" media outlet not afraid to take on "Mr. Edit & Spin" - except healthcare isnt the topic to mess with..F911 should have been ripped apart by them..

where was CNN when Moore was lying and editing his way to an $80 million profit at the expense of the 9-11 victims!..

He's fat and getting fatter.. he better get some good healthcare!

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» "The LIBERAL Media" Myth Posted by: CatDad
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» RE: Go CNN... finally! Posted by: blitzmesser
Email Petitions to CNN to Correct Story?
Posted by: wdlindsy on Jul 14, 2007 12:51 PM   
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If anyone knows of an email petition available to support Michael Moore's request that CNN correct their story about "Sicko," I'll gladly sign it.

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» I am wondering ... Posted by: skoog5600
Mr. Moore. If you do not support the cultural genocide of the Cuban people...
Posted by: Enrique I. Alonso on Jul 14, 2007 2:05 PM   
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...apologize to us.

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» RE: Mr. Moore. Posted by: CatDad
» Cultural genocide...here's a quick picture Posted by: Enrique I. Alonso
Michael Moore
Posted by: fibrowitch on Jul 14, 2007 5:06 PM   
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FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!!!!

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CNN DOC Mentions "Unabomber" Ted Kaczynski: Omits Fact Ted was in CIA Experiment While At Harvard
Posted by: Nuuon on Jul 14, 2007 6:06 PM   
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Hey CNN simply CANNOT be trusted. This Saturday CNN aired (or re-aired) a so-called documentary hosted by Soledad O'Brien on mass murderers that included so-called "Unibomber" Ted Kaczynski . . .

AND CNN FAILED TO MENTION THAT TED WAS SUBJECTED TO MIND-CONTROL EXPERIMENTATION WHILE HE WAS ATTENDING HARVARD.

CNN has a multi-million dollar news staff, so you can't tell me CNN was not aware of this fact. One gets the feeling that the entire documentary was really conceived to further bury the truth about who/what Kaczynski really was and what caused him to bomb.

Let's here from Ted Kaczyncki's own brother, David, on the matter (and after you finish reading this, NEVER trust CNN again):

Snowshoefilms: The reason we pose the question is that since we last spoke with you in Dunkirk, we ran across in Dave McGowan’s book Programmed to Kill: The Politics of Serial Murder. He writes that your brother was a victim of MKULTRA at Harvard.

David Kaczynski: Yes. Something I didn’t know about at all until it was kind of discovered by his defense team [1]and then they began to question our mother about it.

Snowshoefilms: Would you say what it is?

David Kaczynski: Yeah. Well, the MKULTRA program was actually a CIA covert operation within the United States where unwitting suspects [subjects] were made guinea pigs in research about psychotropic drugs, various kinds of psychological pressure. I think there’s pretty clear evidence that was a program at Harvard.

Ted was in a psychological research study run by a psychologist by the name of Henry Murray. Now there’s no clear, unequivocal link that connects that to the MKULTRA program, but it was a fairly abusive research project. It would certainly not pass ethical muster today. 

Ted would meet once a week for a conversation with someone about philosophy with someone he thought – was led to believe – was another subject within the research project but actually was a plant. It was a graduate student, and they were actually trying to study how ‘alienated youth’ – and Ted was identified as an alienated youth at Harvard – would respond to having their philosophy of life and their values challenged. 

So for three years, beginning at the age of 17, Ted was in this study…. I’ve read some of the transcripts and they were pretty awful. I mean, they included personal attacks….

NOTES

[#1] Before Henry Murray (and Sidney Gottlieb) got hold of Ted Kaczynski, this was Harvard’s profile of their 16 year old mathematical genius freshman:

“The health-services doctor who interviewed Kaczynski as part of the medical examination Harvard required for all freshmen observed: ‘Good impression created. Attractive, mature for age, relaxed. . . . Talks easily, fluently and pleasantly. . . . likes people and gets on well with them. May have many acquaintances but makes his friends carefully. Prefers to be by himself part of the time at least. May be slightly shy . . . . Essentially a practical and realistic planner and an efficient worker. . . . Exceedingly stable, well integrated and feels secure within himself. Usually very adaptable. May have many achievements and satisfactions.’ [Italics are Mr. Emory’s]

The doctor further described Kaczynski thus: ‘Pleasant young man who is below usual college entrance age. Apparently a good mathematician but seems to be gifted in this direction only. Plans not crystallized yet but this is to be expected at his age. Is slightly shy and retiring but not to any abnormal extent. Should be [a] steady worker.’” . . .

Murray was a chief researcher at Harvard, conducting psychological experiments under the supervision of Sidney Gottlieb. - Both did work for the OSS/CIA.

http://www.snowshoefilms.com/filmmakersnb92.html

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I am just wondering...?
Posted by: skoog5600 on Jul 14, 2007 6:15 PM   
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I am just wondering why more folks in America do not scrutinize those that are in rather than simply go after one man who has obviously done his homework and pointed out the glaring deficiencies apparent in the US? Is it that the populace is in denial and not willing to look at all the problems that exist in the world. Think Katrina?

I would also like to know how many people that are criticizing Moore's film have actually seen that film? If you have not, then you have no right to speak at all. That is another problem with the US, there are so many people that think they know just because they are expressing their opinions. That is such an arrogant view and is causing the downfall of what was once a pretty decent country.

I watched the film last night and found it quite enlightening. What struck me was not only the issue of health care, which is obvious (whether the facts are 100% accurate or not) but the whole idea of profit over people. It begins at the top and trickles down to the individual.

I lived in the US most of my life, but decided to move away because I am ashamed at what the country has become. I now live in a country where there is national health care, I pay $20/month for health care and can go to any doctor for a small co-pay and if I need drugs they are virtually free. It much more humane and respectful than the American system. And this idea of taking care of one another is reflected in all areas of society.

I would venture to say that Americans need to wake up and stop denying the reality. It may be too late, I hope not as I have family still in the US.

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I am just wondering...? (correction)
Posted by: skoog5600 on Jul 14, 2007 6:26 PM   
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This is a correction to the first part of the paragraph in the above quote

I am just wondering why more folks in America do not scrutinize those that are in POWER rather than simply go after one man who has obviously done his homework and pointed out the glaring deficiencies apparent in the US? Is it that the populace is in denial and not willing to look at all the problems that exist in the world. Think Katrina?

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» Thanks David V Posted by: skoog5600
Too bad Moore couldn't keep it up.
Posted by: lamar on Jul 14, 2007 6:51 PM   
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I guess Moore's always been a dick, but when he's right, he's powerful. He really doesn't have his act together here, and won't be getting an apology from anyone. They will refuse to apologize not because they are in the right. They will refuse to apologize because Moore just doesn't have his act together on the issue of health care. His movie doesn't really do much except show that health care everywhere has problems. I guess that's why he's talking about Iraq so much...his movie didn't really come out so good. As for demanding an apology from CNN, Moore makes accusations that are just silly, and almost makes Wolf Blitzer look good. I hope Moore makes a comeback, but his health care work is shoddy at best.

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» Are you kidding me? Posted by: skoog5600
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SICKO was awesome, moving.
Posted by: EasterBunny on Jul 14, 2007 8:31 PM   
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just came home from the theater. i highly recommend it. you will laugh and cry. it will make you angry but also give you hope. see it!

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» That's right... Posted by: justaguy
» RE: That's right... Posted by: CatDad
. another "thanks"
Posted by: aurora2484 on Jul 15, 2007 12:30 AM   
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We are now going to start looking into the veracity of other reports you have aired on other topics. Nothing you say now can be believed.

P.S. If you also want to apologize for not doing your job at the start of the Iraq War, I'm sure most Americans would be very happy to accept your apology.

You and the other networks were willing partners with Bush, flying flags all over the TV screens and never asking the hard questions that you should have asked.

You might have prevented a war.
You might have saved the lives of those 3,610 soldiers who are no longer with us.

Instead, you blew air kisses at a commander in chief who clearly was making it all up. Millions of us knew that -- why didn't you?

I think you did. And, in my opinion, that makes you responsible for this war.

Instead of doing the job the founding fathers wanted you to do -- keeping those in power honest (that's why they made it the first amendment) -- you and much of the media went on the attack against the few public figures like myself who dared to question the nightmare we were about to enter.

You've never thanked me or the Dixie Chicks or Al Gore for doing your job for you. That's OK. Just tell the truth from this point on.


Simply being able to read those words, eases the sense of oppression, restores hope. Thank you M.M, Thank you K.O, Thank you AlterNet.

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BitTorrent
Posted by: supercrisp on Jul 15, 2007 6:41 AM   
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I'm glad to see Moore be so irritating. Some people need irritating. I encourage him to go after the media. If he distributes his films via BitTorrent, it doesn't matter which of them he attacks. They can't avoid reporting on him because of notoriety. I think news reporting is one of the best places to start improving the things wrong with our country. There's a rightward and a moneyward bias and a paucity of opinions. I'd love to keep the right wing cranks and corporate shills on the air, but with company.

Mr. Moore, please try alternative revenue streams and distribution methods so you can more aggressively irritate our "journalists."

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mercy sakes
Posted by: skydog on Jul 15, 2007 7:14 AM   
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Oh how I wish it would make a difference. Sigh. But it won't. It'll be spun as a publicity stunt by Moore, trying to keep the story alive to sell more movie tickets.

That is, if it gets any MSM coverage at all. Maybe MSNBC will cover it -- they seem to be the emerging populist network (I hope!) while all the others compete for the wife-beating beer-swilling trailer-dwelling Republican Christo-fascist dipsh!t set currently owned by Fox.

Gupta was particularly disingenuous. In the followup on Larry King, he accused Moore of cherry-picking data because he chose to use more current Bush administration numbers instead of drawing all numbers from one report (presuably for reasons of neatness or something -- there's no reason on Earth one should ignore more current data in the interest of using a single souce: that violates common sense on many levels.)

But in a vain effort to find something -- anything -- positive to say about our mediacal system, Gupta cited a statistic on wait times for certain types of elective procedures. That's so beyond cherry-picking, that's bona-fide bullsh!t shoveling, just a continuance of the "fact check" piece.

But we're pushing on a string. CNN fears their sponsors, not Moore. They will never -- ever -- admit they were wrong. Gupta is beyond redemption.

(paraphrasing)

King: Let's clear this up. Sanjay, you never changed your reporting based on advertising dollars, have you?

Gupta: No, Larry, never have.

King: Good. I'm glad we cleared that up.

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America is Amazing - Pt I
Posted by: LMNOP on Jul 15, 2007 7:16 AM   
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Moore says that it is fear and a lack of understanding of the power that they have that keeps the Democrats in Congress from effectively implementing popular sentiment.

That is, the Democrats, even with their small majorities in both houses of Congress, a voter mandate to reverse the carnage in Iraq, and recent polls indicating majorities (or large minorities, like mid 40%) of citizens favoring impeachment of both Bush and Cheney, have [1] given Bush a blank check for prosecuting his fraudulent, criminal war on Iraq, with no strings, demands, deadlines or goals, and [2] have taken the constitutional duty of Congress's to limit the abuses of the executive branch and its chief means to do so, impeachment, "off the table".

And the reason that they have represented us in their negotiation with the Heart of Darkness so incompetently - just giving away our only chip in both battles (power of purse and power of impeachment) in exchange for no concessions - is something innocent, like naiveté and bashfulness? They’re just finding their stride?

This is why America is miles from even seeing its own problems, much less making an impact on them. If Congress was your divorce lawyer (I'm picturing a woman with a child), your representative in a settlement and custody battle, and he came back from a meeting with your ex his lawyer reporting that you weren't getting alimony and that you weren't using the ex'es failed drug test and subsequent unemployment against him in the custody, and that these concessions were just made without receiving any kind of consideration in exchange, you would react in the extreme.

You would know immediately that your lawyer was working for the other side, and you would want him to cease representing you immediately, and you would seek action against him with his bar and with the police if possible.

You wouldn't be interested in any opinions about your lawyer being shy, not knowing how to fight for you because he was afraid of the other lawyer, or that he didn't understand the power that he had to stand up for you. In fact, anybody who even suggested that your lawyer was naive rather than deliberately betraying you should not only not be listened to, he should be considered a possible accomplice and dealt with accordingly.

But we're not talking about a divorce with Bush and the Democrats. We're talking about an analogous relationship between America's left and right, supposedly working together to make it work, or at least minimize damage to the kids (not leafing the next generation scorched, bankrupt, and mired in war). We're the left, the battered wife in this mixed marriage, and our lawyer (the Democrats) are indistinguishable from people that have been paid to betray us. I don't read minds, but the Democrats behave exactly like our worst enemies, and we don't notice. Maybe they're shy or weak in the knees or a little green.

Yeah, and maybe Bush is a smart guy with a plan.

CONT.

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Sicko is too revealing
Posted by: daw13 on Jul 15, 2007 9:27 AM   
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As much as I'd I looked forward to seeing Sicko, I didn't expect it to bowl me over as much as it did. Moore really captures a sense of how sick we are as a nation compared to others, raising the question


Why?


The best hypothesis I can manage is that Europeans went through horrible war-time trauma as a nation, and Canada was settled by people who lived through that experience. Somehow, perhaps, this shared misery dissolved some of the mean-spirited classism that characterized much of Europe prior to WWII. Cuban solidarity has been forged, of course, by it's embattled relationship to the U.S. The fact that no nation was more founded on Calvinist principles than ours must be a contributing factor as well.

In any case, Sicko is just too good for Power to ignore. CNN exemplifies how the press lies nowadays -- or tries to, only too many syncophantic journalists kiss-ass when they aren't even supposed to. Truth is told most of the time so that the crucial lie can succeed by association. CNN and the NYTimes are pretty good at this.

But not this time.


The film left me more deeply aware of our pathology than I think I've ever been, in a way that causes me to feel even more sad than angry. As if seeing my homeland from a distant place.


I don't know if it will affect others as it has me, but I can't imagine anyone failing to find value in it.

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The Shift Away from Mainstream (Corporatist) Media is Defintely Happenning
Posted by: drricklippin on Jul 15, 2007 9:51 AM   
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Soon they will be competeing on the basis of who is the most ethical?

It's all cyclical


News Reporting like Medicine was once a profession- Even Wolfe Blitzer himself had the stupidity to call it now a business in th first interview with Moore.(check transcript)

As far a Dr. Sonjay Gupta- he is just a well trained mainstream doctor and a decent mainstream, very good looking, health reporter.

This interchange with Moore,enabled by Larry King and Wolfe Blitzer, will hasten Gupta's irrelevance in the new world of media and medicine now emerging.

Dr. Rick Lippin
http://medicalcrises.blogspot.com

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.media as it should be: Moyers, Fein, Nichols
Posted by: aurora2484 on Jul 15, 2007 2:38 PM   
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If you have not yet seen Bill Moyers Journal on Impeachment,
it is here

That is part one of about 5 or 6, the others are listed.
.. rivetting viewing..

Transcript

Excerpt:
Bill Moyers: That was a great moment when Sara Taylor said, "I took an oath to uphold the president." Did you see that?

Bruce Fein: Yes. And that was like the military in Germany saying, "My oath is to the Fuhrer, not to the country."

She took an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States. I did, too, when I was in the government. There's no oath that says, "I'm loyal to a president even if he defiles the Constitution."

John Nichols: Ever.

Excerpt 2, re: Media:
John Nichols: Let me mention the unspoken branch of government, which is the fourth estate: The media. The fact of the matter is the founders anticipated that presidents would overreach. And they anticipated that at times politics would cause Congress to be a weaker player or a dysfunctional player. But they always assumed that the press would alert the people, that the press would tell the people. And the fact of the matter is I think that our media in the last few years has done an absolutely miserable job of highlighting the constitutional issues that are in play. You know, you can't have torture and extraordinary rendition. You cannot have spying. You cannot have a - lying to Congress. You cannot have what happened to Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame, you know?

www.pbs.org:80/moyers/journal/07132007/transcript4.html
also at: www.truthout.org/docs_2006/071407B.shtml

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Brainwashing by Noise
Posted by: Ashoka911 on Jul 16, 2007 6:33 AM   
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I hope tha Micheal's next movie highlights the underlying reason why Americans seem to be so confused. If one wanted to brainwash someone, the first step is to overwhelm their sensory system (push their "clear" button") by one of two ways:

1) Completely block out all sensory input (very hard to do),

2) Completly overwhelm them with noise so that they have no clue what is real and what is not.

Americans have hundreds of channels of information and cant filter out any data.

I dont even watch TV anymore. I prefer to remain in the drivers seat of my mind. I hope that his next movie will be something "the Media: in the drivers seat of our minds"

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CNN's response
Posted by: clara.ko on Jul 16, 2007 6:47 AM   
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Posted after this article went out...

CNN's response to Michael Moore

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PROTECT THE INTERNET
Posted by: Roverton on Jul 16, 2007 8:16 AM   
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Like it's your child. They will be coming for it. We get actual news here.

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It's Time to Take a Stand!
Posted by: sunshineceiling on Jul 16, 2007 10:15 AM   
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Thank you Michael Moore! We can create a new reality for our country. It's not too late!

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I'm against universal healthcare
Posted by: RepubMan on Jul 16, 2007 12:17 PM   
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Where in the Constitution does it say that it's the government's responsibility to give free healthcare to everyone? The Founders never intended anything like that. So what if the Europeans or Canadians do? It's not the American way.

Michael Moore doesn't understand that in America people are responsible for themselves. I work hard to provide for myself. Why should I pay for the high medical bills of some fat slob like Michael Moore, who doesn't take care of himself? Many people have health problems because they have bad habits like smoking and overeating. Then they get sick and tell us some sob story and we're supposed to feel sorry for them. Be careful, gorge yourself too much and you'll end up looking like Michael Moore. If getting sick doesn't scare you, that should. Michael Moore needs to be a real man instead of a hysterical, bleeding heart, whiny, America hating liberal who doesn't understand the real world.

We live in the greatest Nation on earth. I'm proud to be an American, while you liberals would rather live in France. You think their health care is so great and that things are so much better there? Move there, then! I'll pay for your tickets. If you can't or won't compete and provide for yourself, that's not my problem. Don't whine and blame me and other people who work hard and are successful.

Life's not fair. In the Bible, Jes