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Live Earth Concerts: Pop Goes the Planet

By Cole Moreton and Geoffrey Lean, The Independent. Posted July 9, 2007.


Performed on seven continents and watched by two billion people over the weekend, the Live Earth concerts spoke directly to the disastrous effects humanity is having on our planet's ecosystem. Plus: Video of Al Gore's speech.
Al Gore @ Live Earth in DC

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The sun was shining; the bands were good -- well, some of them -- and the summer had arrived at last. Tennis players fought it out at Wimbledon and cyclists raced down the Mall in the Tour de France. But as the crowd inside Wembley Stadium for the London Live Earth concert was joined by two billion viewers around the world, other things were happening yesterday too.

Live Earth took place on seven continents, over 24 hours. During that time five million people travelled by plane -- and nearly 5,000 people died as a result of air pollution. More than 83 million barrels of oil were consumed -- and the Antarctic lost a kilometre from its melting ice shelf. The population of the world increased by 211,000 -- and the forests of the world decreased by 20,000 hectares.

All this happens every day -- symptoms of the global crisis that Live Earth hopes to help to stop. And the true picture is even worse than we fear.

Startling new research shows that humanity is pushing the Earth to breaking point by devouring the life-support systems that make it habitable. Even before the feared climate change really begins the bite, the planet is already under intolerable strain. An unprecedented study by top ecologists and climatologists, to be published by the US National Academy of Sciences, shows that a quarter of all plant life in the world is being destroyed each year by the demands of just one species: homo sapiens.

"That is mind-boggling," said Kevin Wall, co-founder and producer of the Live Earth shows which started in Sydney, Australia, at 2 am British time on Saturday and ended in Rio de Janeiro early Sunday morning. "It is part of the challenge we face, which is so overwhelming that people tend to go along with their lives in the same way, because it's invisible moment by moment."

Live Earth hoped to beat that inertia by challenging members of its unprecedented global audience to reduce their own carbon emissions and campaign for serious political action. "The Earth is a blue ball covered with a very thin layer of lacquer, within which the air, water and living beings exist," said the former US presidential candidate Al Gore, who also put the concerts together. "This fragile layer is all we have. It is our only home -- and we owe it to our children and our children's children to protect it."

But the new research in 161 countries -- the most extensive study ever made into humanity's impact on the planet's production of life, powered by the Sun -- shows that the Earth is already in serious trouble. In some parts of the world humans are using up far more than 25 percent of plant life for food, fuel and other needs. In Western Europe we gobble up 40 percent of the earth's natural bounty, in Eastern Europe 52 percent, and in India a staggering 63 percent. About half of this is accounted for by growing crops and another 40 percent in forestry and grazing domesticated animals.

"This is a remarkable impact on the biosphere caused by just one species," said the German government's chief adviser on climate change. The US Academy's study, actually carried out at Austria's Klagenfurt University and Germany's Potsdam Institute for Climate Research, is backed by some of the world's most distinguished experts. Dr Nathan Moore of Michigan State University called the results "alarming". Professor Christopher Field, founding director of the Carnegie Institution's Department of Global Ecology, said: "With millions of species sharing the leftovers, it is hard to know how many will be squeezed out of the game."

Global warming will place even greater strain on the natural world, the survey says. But it also warns that one of the main measures proposed to combat climate change -- growing extra crops for to make biofuels -- places " massive additional pressures on ecosystems".

Live Earth took place on seven continents in Sydney, Tokyo, Shanghai, Johannesburg, Hamburg, London, New York and Rio de Janeiro. Crowded House were headlining in Australia long before the doors opened at the new Wembley Stadium, and their lead singer Neil Finn said this event would shame other rock promoters and set a new standard for responsible shows. "This is the least we can do at this point in the planet's history. It's a groundswell we want to be part of."

But Roger Daltrey of The Who (not on the bill anywhere) had said: "The last thing the planet needs is a rock concert." And Arctic Monkeys said the artists appearing were patronising and hypocritical, "especially when we're using enough power for 10 houses, just for stage lighting".


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Posted by: 7 Levels on Jul 9, 2007 1:11 AM   
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As much of a fan as I am of music, I still find Live Earth to be a huge waste of time. They could have been smart and simulcast broadband performances right from some of the artists' home towns. I just cannot get behind someone who lives in a mansion, takes private planes, and jets all over the world. We all know global warming is happening, we should stop allowing us to be spoon fed the information by hypocrites. We had the PUSSYCAT DOLLS tell us about conserving fuel - isn't THAT enough of an example of what a joke it is when celebrities do this stuff. And buying carbon credits is like buying your way into heaven. What a crock.

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intentions
Posted by: collery on Jul 9, 2007 3:36 AM   
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Most of us probably have good intentions, especially after been lectured on reducing consumption by some of the biggest consumers in the world.

In case anyone has doubts about all those good intentions, I'm pretty sure most of us will die with our good intentions fully intact and unrealised.

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Live Earth Skeptic
Posted by: EKSwitaj on Jul 9, 2007 4:49 AM   
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The biggest problem I have with Live Earth is that it amounts to hyper wealthy people jetting around the globe to encourage people who are less well off to use less. For some reason that just doesn't add up.

Then there's the issue of having Pepsi as a corporate sponsor. Haven't we just seen a spate of articles about the impact of bottled water on the environment? Pepsi is clearly implicated in that. I wonder how many bottles of their various drinks they sold at these concerts. Recycling may be better than filling up a landfill, but it still takes energy. If they really wanted these concerts to be green, they would've required people to bring their own reusable bottles to be filled by vendors.

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Superficial Aid 07
Posted by: edith on Jul 9, 2007 5:10 AM   
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Al Gore did little or nothing of value concerning global warming when he was Vice-President. He continues to wallow in the superficial. Perhaps if he and Sting had announced that they would forego air travel for a year and they urged everyone else to boycott airlines, significant reduction in carbon use would have resulted.

It may be time for TVA Al to resume his career as a booster of nuclear power because the 80% reduction by 2050 in carbon he's pushing isn't going to happen without cheap alternative energy. Right now, Al's solution, if you read between the bloated lines of his canned presentation, is punitive carbon taxes. He blabs about alternatives, but really he focuses on punishing working people for doing what they must do to earn a living, shop, and run necessary errands.

No wonder Al says he has little interest in politics. No voter with an iq over 70 would vote for his "green" mush high tax program. Well, maybe some rock stars would.

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» RE: Superficial Aid 07 Posted by: madmac10
» RE: Superficial Aid 07 Posted by: edith
solutions
Posted by: solrev on Jul 9, 2007 6:30 AM   
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"This fragile layer is all we have. It is our only home -- and we owe it to our children and our children's children to protect it."

Gen.2 [15] And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.

There must be real solutions available or maybe it is not rational to fulfill a destiny. I guess we should follow the natural law and to date the natural law is extinction.

As for who gets to participate:

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

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Live Earthquake
Posted by: ggmurray on Jul 9, 2007 7:19 AM   
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I watched Live Earth on computer and later on TV. I was simply blown away by the event. Coming of age in the Sixties, I remember Woodstock, and though I wasn't there, the ripples of that event got the attention of my generation in the way Live Earth will speak to the generation that is now coming of age - across the globe.

It wasn't just the music, but the sheer magnitude of the day - with simultaneous concerts across the globe, the clear message of environmental urgency, the cultural richness of it all, the huge stadium-filling crowds, the intimacy of the internet as I hopped via keyboard from continent to continent, savoring the crowds as much as the performances.

Sure there was trash and excess, same as any ballgame. But there was no violence. And lots of hope, lots of awareness of the common breath of humanity we all must share. I predict the ripples from this event will stir the next generation like nothing that has been seen before. You just have to know what you're looking at.

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» RE: Live Earthquake, I am with you Posted by: peacefullaim
Narcissism saving the world!
Posted by: frankly1 on Jul 9, 2007 7:35 AM   
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I saw a little of this futile, pathetic display of western condescension. The flaunting of the wealth and technology all made cheap and possible by the exploitation of the poor and powerless. Climate change is going to affect the weakest first, it already is. As I watched the crowds waving cellphones and watching the big screens in the big stadia to "raise awarness" to the plight of the planet it became fairly obvious that we are not going to do anything meaningfull at all and the only thing to be aware of is our pending extinction.
I had thought that my generation (live aid, punk rock, cfc's etc.) were ignorant ,vain and shallow, but somehow more has been drained from the pool. The planet will not miss us!

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» RE: Narcissist Callin the world, Black! Posted by: LeftCoastProgressive
don't shoot the messengers!
Posted by: defiant on Jul 9, 2007 8:43 AM   
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As I type this there are only a few comments on this page, but they are mostly schoolyard attacks on Gore and the "rock stars" as an excuse to ignore the message! It's amazing how otherwise good people will choose to ignore the Truth and attack those speaking, only so they can continue with status quo - as if your over-consumption is automatically okay because you point out alleged hypocrisy. Ironic, huh?

Wake up, cynics - this climate-thing is for real! If a runaway film and a series of concerts can break through the babble of monocultural noise to raise even your microscopic awareness enough to come here and attack the messengers, then I'd say the events were a pretty good success. The rest of us - and we also have lives and choices to make - will be working toward change and better practices. What will you be doing? Riding around in your SUV, listening to crap, eating junk, laughing at a few famous people for participating in something that matters to us all?

Let's be glad that Gore and others have been such a success in getting the word out and changing a few minds. A few more need changing, it seems, but at least a clear message made it through all the usual noise...

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» that's a good troll... Posted by: defiant
» Ditto and.. Posted by: edith
» RE: Sniff, sniff! Posted by: LeftCoastProgressive
There is a lot of junk in Live Earth's trunk
Posted by: Bobsays on Jul 9, 2007 8:57 AM   
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I thought it was an insipid, sanctimonious bore-fest and I found the ding-dongs brought on to mouth a few green thoughts even worse. I could feel through the TV screen their lack of genuine commitment to the cause. I cringed for most of it. Madonna was good being Madonna but it didn't say much about being green.

Live earth was live dearth.

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» ...but you watched it! Posted by: defiant
» RE: ...but you watched it! Posted by: Bobsays
» RE: Sparring partner? Posted by: LeftCoastProgressive
» RE: ...but you watched it! Posted by: panama420
My, my, my...
Posted by: Pirate1 on Jul 9, 2007 10:03 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
But we have become a cynical lot. I didn't see any of the concerts because I don't do TV and haven't for about 2 decades now... I could have streamed some of it I suppose but I didn't think of it. Still, I think that knocking people attempting to bring badly needed attention to an issue to which most people are pretty oblivious is pathetic. The way we are going, mass extinction will remove almost everything about life as we know it, as it must be for US to be... chances are anything we do now will be too little too late but I come down on the side of at least TRYING to foment change in people. I don't care if it's a rock star or a rice farmer... we need everyone we can get to articulate the crisis we are in while we still can.

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» well said! (n/t) Posted by: defiant
» My, my, my... Posted by: IPF
Art is Powerful
Posted by: shoosta on Jul 9, 2007 10:40 AM   
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After the concerts, I happened to catch a snippet of the news describing "critics" of these concerts. These anonymous "critics" were denouncing the event as counter-productive because of the enormous energy expended to produce the events on seven continents. Just after that bit on the news, footage was shown of several NASCAR and formula 1 events that were also happening that day just in the U.S.. Funny, no-one said a word about the enormous waste and energy used for those events. And what did they accomplish to promote understanding or solidarity about one greatly important issue? How much waste and energy was used this weekend in Iraq and Afganistan to loot, rape and pillage? How much depleted uranium was used by American troops on just that day in those countries?
The point is that gathering artists together at one time and on one day can have an impact on this serious problem that we all face. Lets not forget that music did help to bring the war in Vietnam to an end, it helped to bring down a U.S. president, and it helped to end aparthied in South Africa. Art is powerful in its out right. We can hear it, touch it, feel it. It can invoke strong emotions and thus can spark change in individual or collective lives. These concerts are just the beginning. Let's hope that a movement has been spawned.

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» RE: Art is Powerful Posted by: Jim Shaw
» RE: Art is Powerful Posted by: defiant
The Sky is Falling, The Sky is Falling...
Posted by: IPF on Jul 9, 2007 11:40 AM   
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Wake up people, this is another sham.

The world has existed well into the millions of years and the climate cycle is just that - a cycle. Temperatures will go up and down. There is not much we can do to influence this cycle - and by the way over 90% of Greenhouse gases are water vapor. Surprising little tidbit you haven't heard?

Call it an inconvenient truth.

We should be spending more money on figuring out how to live in higher heat and cooler temperatures. Or better yet - helping the starving in third world countries? Nah, let's do.... CONCERTS!! And the carbon offsets to pad Gore's pockets and every other sham artist who as recently as 1970's were saying an ice age is coming. Now it's global warming... And they pointedly tell you IT'S YOUR FAULT!!!

What a crock.

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» RE: The Sky is Falling, The Sky is Falling... Posted by: LeftCoastProgressive
save the planet?
Posted by: frankly1 on Jul 9, 2007 12:03 PM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Just a quote from an Andean shaman "The world does not need to be saved. The world is not in danger.We are. We humans. If we don't change our ways, mother earth will shake us off like so many fleas" Now the shaking has begun!

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» RE: save the planet? Posted by: shoosta
Wake up!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: pito516 on Jul 9, 2007 12:44 PM   
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I'd seen a great majority of the Live Earth show and enjoyed pretty much all of it. It's something to behold when you've got so many musical acts together for one common cause. These are people just like us who eat, sleep, and shit like we all do, yet it's sad when arts and politics cross one another. Lines should not be drawn when the topic is something that we all face at the crossroads of change, rather than bicker about the activism of celebrities we can stand to be witness to the great accomplishments they set fourth. Bringing attention to global issues is something every living person on the planet has a right to do, and becoming active to find solutions to said issues is as important. For those who want to down play someone else for speaking up and trying to make a difference should ask themselves a few questions first. " When was the last time you helped someone less fortunate than you?" But in this case it's the planet that needs all of our attention and care. So the next time a historical event happens in your lifetime, don't be so quick to judge who's on stage speaking up against Global warming, or the war, or even genocide taking place at the very same moment take a long hard look in the mirror and ask yourself "How do I get involved and make a change for the better?

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just my little opinion
Posted by: angryyoungwoman on Jul 9, 2007 12:51 PM   
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I don't have air conditioning, even on days when it gets above 100 degrees I just deal with it. I don't drive, ever--don't even have a licence. I walk, ride my bike, or catch a ride with a friend since there's no busing system where I live. I use cfls. Much of my food is not only locally grown, but home grown. I have long underwear and sweaters for winter so I don't have to use the heat. I barely use any water (I live in a desert, so it's necessary not to). I don't have any friends who are save the planet types, I'm in this alone and they all think I'm crazy. But no one can say I'm not doing my part.

That said, it does piss me off to see little pop stars who are flying around in their private jets and driving around in their suvs, living in their oversized houses, and basically living lives of waste, lecturing me about what I should be doing to prevent global warming. I don't think I'm the one who needs the lesson here. I think they should try for once working in a tiny kitchen that's overrun by recyclables because the nearest recycling center is 45 miles away and so far no one you know is going down there. THey should try walking everywhere because they don't want to waste gas. THey should try looking a few pounds heavier all winter because they're wearing long underwear and heavy sweaters to keep warm rather than turning the heat on.

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25%
Posted by: vertical on Jul 9, 2007 1:30 PM   
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They say that America has 5% of the Earth's population, and we use 25% of the Earth's resources. I bet we could cut that in half by just getting rid of our A-listers and their piggy ways. I wonder how many households would need to replace their incondescent bulbs for mercury laden compact flourescent bulbs just to compensate for one hollywood celebraty flying cross country in her private jet to gewt her hair done?

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Only Coverage I Saw WAS Al Gore's Son Busted for Drugs
Posted by: edgar_michel on Jul 9, 2007 1:46 PM   
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I didn't see any part of the live earth concert. Regardless of whether it was rich people imploring the poor to do something, the fact is, here in Los Angeles, the only thing I saw was on MTA TV and that only said that Al Gore's son was busted for drugs. That was all, for two days they broadcast that Al Gore's Son was busted for drugs while speeding in his Honda Prius. Do you get the connection? Global warming advocates are drugs addicts. That is what the news line in L.A. was trying to drive home. Not a thing was mentioned about Al Gore and Live Earth. No mater what you think about the absurdity of rich people rallying the poor to do with less, it is these rich who are at least taking time out of their idle rich schedule to bring attention to the fact that there is a problem. There seems to be other more idle and much richer that are doing everything in their power to prevent any awareness of the problem since that is how they came by there fortunes.

On the fourth I attended a press conference and picnic featuring Maxine Waters. It was the inauguration of the Center for the Impeachment of George W. Bush. You can learn more at www.pledgetoimpeach.org or www.bcimpeach.com. The message here is that if we don’t impeach George W. Bush, then his presidency will stand as a precedent establishing the unitary executive permanently undermining the democratic republic of America.

WWW.BCIMPEACH.COM PETITION SIGNATURES – July 4, 2007, Bush/Cheney Impeachment Resolution, Petition and signatures; TO DO: PLEASE CALL Nancy Pelosi’s office AND your congressional representatives to insist they support impeachment (e.g. HR # 333 for Cheney: please say in addition to supporting Kucinich’s bill # 333, I would also support a similar Impeachment Resolution against Bush, especially after the disgraceful Scooter Libby sentence “commuting” and the following issues: wiretapping, torture, Iraq and 9/11 intelligence misrepresentation, Valerie Plame, etc.). House Speaker Pelosi’s office is taking calls voting for impeachment of Bush/Cheney at (202) 225-0100. For toll free numbers to your Congress rep: (800) 828-6498; (800) 459-1887; or (866) 340-9281. You will be connected. Final Note: Please say “I support Imopeachment based on _________________, I’d like to know “[representative’s name]” stands on this issue.” Call Act Now!

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» I'm With You!!!! Posted by: panama420
» RE: I'm With You!!!! Posted by: peacefullaim
» RE: I'm With You!!!! Posted by: edgar_michel
» RE: Continued Posted by: edgar_michel
» RE: Continued Posted by: IPF
» RE: Just a Minute Posted by: edgar_michel
Got solutions?
Posted by: dmdem on Jul 9, 2007 2:31 PM   
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I DID watch as much of the concerts as I was able, and I'm glad I did. At least SOMEONE is out there doing something to get people to "wake up," get off our collective arse to help us all help ourselves -- that goes for "THEM," too....not just "US."
I DID vote for Al Gore in '00, and I will believe until my dying day that if HE'D been our President, we wouldn't find ourselves in the dire straits we're currently in -- and I'm not even talking about the environment. He has been an environmental advocate for YEARS; but it's pretty difficult to be heard when media, comedians, etc. would rather RIDICULE than (god forbid) do something CONSTRUCTIVE and help spread the word. Cripes, what a concept!
Seems to me like for most of the people who've posted comments, it wouldn't matter WHO'S sounding the call or HOW they're sounding it -- you would criticize ANYONE. If you've got a better idea, those of us who believe either in the man, the message, the intentions, and the cause would certainly like to hear it.
For every one of our choices and actions there is a consequence. With respect to the environment, our choices and actions affect the earth and/or the atmosphere. Some are immediate, some are cumulative. It's all very simple. And we can either acknowledge it or turn a blind eye. So far, sounds like the majority of people who've commented would sooner turn a blind eye.
For my part, five years ago I traded in my SUV for a smaller, more fuel-efficient vehicle which was very well made. I miss the SUV in wintry weather, but I don't regret the switch. My little car is a Godsend. I leave the lightswitches alone as much as possible; I condense my trips whenever possible and pay my bills online. I take old or unusable cleansers, oils, spray cans, etc. to my local landfill in the spring and fall. I do laundry with mostly cold water. Earning less than $50,000 a year, I HAVE to find ways to get the most for my money.
Since seeing Saturday's event, I've decided to commit to saying YES to paper bags at the grocery store, or better still, getting several canvas bags to start taking with me to the store. I'm also going to buy energy efficient lightbulbs -- and there's room for even more changes. I'm sure that Al Gore himself can make more changes too, not to mention any/all of the people who agreed to appear and perform (oh, and don't even bother with snide retorts).
We've become a nation of wasteful consumers for whom nothing less than instant gratification will do. We build buildings and strip malls that end up being vacated within ten years' time (sometimes less). We always opt for the easiest way out, the fastest way to get there, and new ways to tap our natural resources with no thought to replacing, repairing, or replenishing.
I agree that the climate changes as part of the earth's cycle. But the emissions, fumes, and other toxins we belch into the air, bury in the earth and dump into the water ARE NOT HELPING. IT'S ALL GOTTA GO SOMEWHERE, and it DOES have an effect.
If each of us did ONE thing, made ONE change, seems to be it's worth the effort if the end result was making things better for future generations.
To those who believe and are willing to heed the message, no other call is necessary; no proof is needed. And to all the cynics, critics, nay-sayers and non-believers, nothing anyone can say or offer in the way of proof will suffice.

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» RE: Got solutions? Posted by: pito516
» RE: Got solutions? Posted by: edgar_michel
The Fatal Flaw
Posted by: AsteroidMiner on Jul 9, 2007 5:56 PM   
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Al Gore's Live Earth Pledge has a fatal flaw: "the capacity
to safely trap and store the CO2." There is no safe way to
confine trillions of tons of CO2 at high pressure for ever.
For Ever is a lot longer than the 100000 years that people
want nuclear "waste" to be stored. The CO2 WILL
leak out and suffocate millions of people. CO2 is denser
than air and displaces air at ground level. CO2 has caused
suffocation in Africa. See:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/1155057.stm

"Cameroon's 'killer lake' degassed"
"More than 1,700 people died after deadly gases spewed
from Lake Nyos 15 years ago. "
"In August 1986, the lake released a cloud of carbon
dioxide which hugged the ground and flowed down
surrounding valleys to suffocate thousands of local villagers
and animals.

The rare phenomenon also occurred at Lake Monoun in the
same volcanic zone two years earlier killing 34 people. "

The CO2 storage facilities proposed by Al Gore, besides
being prone to leak, will be a target for terrorists. A
terrorist has only to cause a leak to kill more people than a
nuclear bomb would. Leaks are very easy to cause in high
pressure containers. CO2 storage is a time bomb.

The pledge Should read: "I will learn enough about nuclear
physics so that I will no longer be paranoid about nuclear
power. I will advocate the replacement of coal fired power
plants with the newest nuclear power plant designs."
I have no financial interest in nuclear power and no
connection with the nuclear power industry.

The Live Earth Pledge reads:

I PLEDGE:

-To demand that my country join an international treaty
within the next 2 years that cuts global warming pollution
by 90% in developed countries and by more than half
worldwide in time for the next generation to inherit a
healthy earth;

-To take personal action to help solve the climate crisis by
reducing my own CO2 pollution as much as I can and
offsetting the rest to become “carbon neutral;”

-To fight for a moratorium on the construction of any new
generating facility that burns coal without the capacity to
safely trap and store the CO2;

-To work for a dramatic increase in the energy efficiency of
my home, workplace, school, place of worship, and means
of transportation;

-To fight for laws and policies that expand the use of
renewable energy sources and reduce dependence on oil
and coal;

-To plant new trees and to join with others in preserving
and protecting forests; and,

-To buy from businesses and support leaders who share my
commitment to solving the climate crisis and building a
sustainable, just, and prosperous world for the 21st century.

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» RE: The Fatal Flaw Posted by: edgar_michel
» RE: The Fatal Flaw Posted by: IPF
The extinction of Homo Sapiens [Humans]
Posted by: AsteroidMiner on Jul 9, 2007 6:08 PM   
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download from:
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=00037A5D-
A938-150E-A93883414B7F0000&sc=I100322
from the October 2006 issue of Scientific American
Article: "Impact from the Deep"
"Strangling heat and gases emanating from the earth and
sea, not asteroids, most likely caused several ancient mass
extinctions. Could the same killer-greenhouse conditions
build once again? "
By Peter D. Ward
The last paragraph of the article says:
"The so-called thermal extinction at the end of the
Paleocene began when atmospheric CO2 was just under
1,000 parts per million (ppm). At the end of the Triassic,
CO2 was just above 1,000 ppm. Today with CO2 around
385 ppm, it seems we are still safe. But with atmospheric
carbon climbing at an annual rate of 2 ppm and expected to
accelerate to 3 ppm, levels could approach 900 ppm by the
end of the next century, and conditions that bring about the
beginnings of ocean anoxia may be in place. How soon
after that could there be a new greenhouse extinction? That
is something our society should never find out."
The hydrogen sulfide will finally put an end to the mining of
coal. Nuclear power is the safest available.
I have no connection with the nuclear power industry.

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Live Tire Fire 07!!!
Posted by: Illiteratilumen on Jul 10, 2007 11:39 AM   
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I would like to announce my own event to save the planet. I've collected over 3000 used tires and I will be setting them on fire in my backyard this weekend. I'm still working on booking Kid Rock for the event but if he can't make it my neighbor has a bunch of his CD's he told me I can borrow. Since this is a tire fire to save the planet I purchased the necessary carbon credits to off-set the blaze that I have estimated will burn for 5 months. Its all about spreading the message of conservation and sharing in the awesomeness of tire fires.

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» RE: Live Tire Fire 07!!! Posted by: pito516
» RE: Live Tire Fire 07!!! Posted by: pito516
BURGERS?? At an eco-event?
Posted by: veggiegrrrl on Jul 10, 2007 3:07 PM   
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The burgers were in biodegrable sugar cane packaging?? BURGERS?? At an eco-event? GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.....

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» RE: BURGERS?? At an eco-event? Posted by: Illiteratilumen
We shouldn't just be "saving the Earth for our children" -- we should be saving it for itself.
Posted by: Pat Kittle on Jul 12, 2007 5:50 AM   
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Jeez, do we really need the "Material Girl" lecturing us about ecology?

Al Gore's heart's in the right place, but he had 4 kids himself, and he's supposed to be an "enlightened" 1st world environmentalist who therefore doesn't overbreed.

You don't have to beat yourself up if you've had too many kids, but you could discuss it honestly, without making the kids feel guilty (after all, it's not their fault). But how are we ever going to break this cycle of overbreeding if we can't even talk about it at something like "Live Earth"?

Billions more humanoids will arrive shortly if we refuse to promote ecologically-based birth control (or the whole stinking charade doesn't collapse first).

Those who refuse to promote ecologically-based birth control are guilty of the ultimate crime against nature, no matter how "green" they think they are.

BTW -- we shouldn't just be "saving the Earth for our children" -- we should be saving it for itself!

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starzzzz
Posted by: xstargaizer on Jul 13, 2007 12:43 PM   
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yes it seems totally hypocritical...or worse
keeps us from ending WAR!!!
Question is how thin do u draw the line...how tight do u reign in all those who arent perfect????
Assume good intentions..that saves u time judging everyone else .. .and work to better your favorite corner!!!!

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impeachment
Posted by: gsaephanh on Jul 13, 2007 1:03 PM   
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Call in your vote TODAY for impeaching Bush and Cheney at this number: 202-225-0100

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s office is taking calls voting for Impeachment of Bush/Cheney at 202-225-0100. PLEASE CALL TODAY. At the toll free capitol switchboard #s below, you can also call your particular district’s congressional representative to insist that they support impeachment for Cheney. E.g., for Rep. Dennis Kucinich’s H Res 333 for Cheney; please say:

“In addition to supporting Kucinich’s bill H Res 333, I would also support a similar Impeachment Resolution against Bush, especially after the disgraceful Scooter Libby sentence “commuting” and the following issues: wiretapping, torture, numerous 9/11 intelligence misrepresentations, the continued occupation of Iraq, gross negligence during Hurrican Katrina, the Valerie Plame CIA leak, […list your other grounds…] ..”[see resolutions on tab #2 for other grounds for impeachment]).

LANIC requests that Americans call today…Not tomorrow or next week. Every call adds to the extraordinary grasswoots and nationwide movement’s pressures on House Speaker Pelosi to act now .before further innocent lives are lost in Iraq and elsewhere. Last week 28 Americans lost their lives. Over the July 4, 2007 weekend over 400 Iraqis lost their lives…

SEND MAIL TO HOUSE SPEAKER NANCY PELOSI: Attn: Nancy Pelosi, House Representative/Speaker of the House, 235 Cannon H.O.B., Washington, DC 20515 ; Pelosi’s Fax # 202 225-8259

Pelosi’s e-mail address :

Americanvoices@mail.house.gov

CC her at: sf.nancy@mail.house.gov

Please send her a pro-impeachment email and a specific call to endorse H Res 333. Note: On Saturdays/Sundays, Pelosi’s office has a comment line at which you can leave a voicemail. Your message will be transcribed and relayed to her. Please do encourage your family/friends to contact the same number. Refer them to www.bcimpeach.com for the actual telephone #s & contact info.

Find out who your Congressional representative is and call that person. For toll free numbers to your Congress rep: (800) 828 – 0498; (800) 459 – 1887; or (866) 340 – 9281. You will be connected once you name your congress person. The staff aid should take detailed notes and provided to the Congressional representative.

Final Note: Please say “I support Impeachment based on ____. I’d like to know where “[representative name]” stands on this issue.” Let’s strike while the Libby fury keeps the iron hot! Please call and Act Now!

PLEASE ALSO CONTACT THESE KEY CONGRESSIONAL REPS RE IMPEACHMENT:
Representative Capitol Phone Capitol Fax
Howard Berman 202-225-4695 202-225-3196
& 818-944-7200 818-994-1050

MAILING ADDRESS FOR BERMAN
Congressman Howard L. Berman
14546 Hamlin Street, Suite 202
Van Nuys, CA 91411

Henry Waxman 202-225-3976 202-225-4099
Loreta Sanchez 202 225-2965 202-225-5859
D. Watson 202 225-7084 202-225-2422
LindaSanchez 202 225-6676 202-226-1012
L. Solis 202 225-5464 202-225-5467
A. G. Eshoo 202 225-8104 202-225-8890
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http://www.bcimpeach.com/

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Wow. This was pretty funny...
Posted by: gringo on Jul 16, 2007 3:14 AM   
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All right, girls, let me start by saying that I am pretty right-wing. Yap. This means I am educated, smart and I can recognize bs easily. Here is one funny part in the article:

An unprecedented study by top ecologists and climatologists, to be published by the US National Academy of Sciences, shows that a quarter of all plant life in the world is being destroyed each year by the demands of just one species: homo sapiens.

Here is a nice second passage, that somehow contradicts it:
In some parts of the world humans are using up far more than 25 percent of plant life for food, fuel and other needs.

Clearly, the libs won't discuss facts (it's less fun than asserting that they are superior human beings), but I would want to get some clarification on these passages. I know, I know, the article was written by some student majoring in alchemistry, astrology and fundamentals of homosexuality, but I insist that the author clarifies these passages. Are we really destroying 1/4 of all plant life every year? And if so, what happens afterwards? Do we then wave a magic ward and it all becomes good again, and we destroy it once again? If so - what seems to be the problem?

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