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What the World Might Look Like When the Millennials Run It

By Tom Tresser, Conscious Choice. Posted August 2, 2007.


Young, wired and living life on the digital edge -- meet the Millennials and see a snapshot of what political changes could happen when they're in charge.

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If you can't remember a time when the world was not wired, you are a member of the Millennial Generation -- the 33 million Americans between the ages of 15 and 25. You are special. You are different. The fate of the planet is on your shoulders. No pressure.

Before your arrival, the largest, richest and most influential generation in American history were your parents -- the Baby Boom Generation -- the some 78 million Americans born to G.I. Dads and Lindy-hopping Moms in the years after the end of World War II. Succeeding them, born between 1964 and 1977, was Generation X, clocking in much smaller, at 37 million. But with over 80 million Americans born after 1977, Generation Y is the new large and in charge generation. Gen Y includes Echo Boomers (loosely defined as the children of the Boomers born after 1977), and Millennials, (those born after 1982). Like their Boomer parents before them, the opposite ends of the Gen Y/Echo/Millennial generation are vastly different from each other. And Millennials, say experts, "are unlike any other youths in living memory: More numerous, more affluent, better educated and more ethnically diverse than those who came before." Those words from William Strauss and Neil Howe, social scientists who coined the term "millennial" in their book Millennials and the Pop Culture (LifeCourse Associates, March '06).

Perhaps the most outstanding detail that distinguishes this generation -- from even those born just a couple of years earlier -- is their level of media consumption, particularly online. Today, the average teenager spends more than 72 hours a week using electronic media -- cell phones, internet, television, music and video games -- according to a 2006 study.

"There's an intense focus on openness, sharing information, as both an ideal and a practical strategy to get things done," explained Mark Zuckerberg, 23-year-old Millennial wüunderkind and founder and CEO of Facebook, in a recent interview with Fast Company. On Facebook.com, students log in daily to chat, flirt and connect -- the average user frittering away eight hours a month on the site.

All that time spent social networking has indoctrinated Millennials into the cult of groupthink, refashioning them into the most collaborative and team-oriented generation the world has seen in many a decade. This manifests in "a wide array of positive social habits that older Americans no longer associate with youth, including a new focus on teamwork, achievement, modesty and good conduct," say Strauss and Howe.

Millennials spend 16 hours a week on the Internet -- and that's not including emailing. Recent research from the Pew Internet and American life project shows nearly 80 percent of the 28 and younger set regularly read blogs, compared with just 30 percent of adults 29 to 40. And roughly 40 percent of teenage and 20-something Internet users have created their own blog, as compared to just a sliver of 30-somethings -- a mere 9 percent.

Thirty-five-year-old entrepreneur and youth-marketing guru Anastasia Goodstein turned her fascination with the evolving Internet habits of Millennials' into a book, Totally Wired: What Teens and Tweens Are REALLY Doing Online (St. Martin's Griffon, March '07). She calls Millennials the "mash up generation," because they're constantly taking bits and pieces of popular culture and then remixing them -- essentially creating their own tailored subcultures.

Out of Myspace and Into the World

But with personally-crafted online networks right at their fingertips, Millennials are confronting some harsh realities when they step outside their virtual world. Julia Dossett, a 25-year-old Marketing Associate for the Steppenwolf Theater Company in Chicago, observes this phenomenon in the numbers of her peers who seem to resist engagement in a personal and professional commitment because "they are waiting around for the ideal to come along." This can breed apathy, resentment and a sense of entitlement.

"None of these will help my generation actually reach the potential we were encouraged to achieve as children so long ago," Dossett laments. "We were raised to believe we could do anything we wanted and be anything we wanted, and that nothing was out of reach. But now that we are young adults living away from our parents -- I think we sometimes find the choices overwhelming."

Jean Twenge, a psychology professor at San Diego State University and author of Generation Me: Why Today's Young Americans Are More Confident, Assertive, Entitled -- and More Miserable than Ever Before (Free Press, March '07), blames much of Millennial angst on the over indulgences of boomer parents. "They were raised by 'helicopter' parents who constantly hovered over them -- providing unending praise, support and, perhaps, unrealistic expectations that the world was their oyster," says Twenge. This group is highly optimistic -- they expect to go to college, to make lots of money, and perhaps even to be famous. The misery is produced, says Twenge, when these overly confident youngsters hit a stressed-out work place rife with uncertainty.

"Many people reaching their twenties find that their jobs do not provide the fulfillment and excitement they had anticipated," Twenge continues. "And their salary isn't enough to afford even a small house."

Millennial dissatisfaction in the workplace has not gone unnoticed by employers. Anastasia Goodstein recounts a recent Wall Street Journal article about a company that hired a praise consultant to help assuage the egos of young employees. "This is a generation used to veneration and attention and getting a pat on the back," Goodstein explains. But still, Goodstein wonders what kind of praise the consultant might offer. "Maybe 'Great job, you showed up today!' "

On EmployeeEvolution.com, 20-something bloggers Ryan Paugh and Ryan Healy hope to "create an anonymous dialogue between our generation and the corporations struggling to understand our attitudes about work." In a recent post entitled "Where Should a Millennial Draw the Line?," Paugh writes, "Part of being an entry-level worker is just waiting for something big to come your way. In the meantime, you bite your lip and act busy. Preceding generations say it's normal. I say it sucks. If what our elders say is true, we're supposed to keep on truckin'. Eventually we'll have some real responsibility and the downtime will be nothing less than treasured. The problem is, I don't live my life on blind faith."

Richard Florida, best-selling author of Rise of the Creative Class, gets Paugh's message loud and clear. "This generation values intrinsic rewards more so than salary and benefits," says Florida. "A culture which fosters tolerance and learning is one they will seek out and thrive in. The organizations that do this best will be the ones that prosper in the creative age."

Political Scenesters

Smart, savvy and civically engaged, there is no doubt Millennials will affect profound change on the political level. When they start occupying elective offices, expect new initiatives to protect children, promote literacy and safety and reform dysfunctional educational systems. Experts also anticipate this generation will affect profound political change on a consumer level, especially concerning where and why they open their pocket books. Their loyalty will lie with socially responsible business practices.

In fact, they're dedicating their time to efforts they care about more than ever before. In 2003, 83 percent of college freshman were volunteering -- up from about 66 percent in 1990 (a side effect of increasingly competitive college acceptance rates perhaps, but nice nonetheless).

And for those dismayed by the general public's apparent distrust of smart politicians, here's a great sign: Eight in ten teens now say it's "cool to be smart." Test scores are up, and 73 percent of high school students say they want a four-year college degree.

"Two things represent my generation," concludes Chris Hales, 25-year-old CEO of Anti-Matter Media a Chicago-based multimedia company. "Technology and the 'Do-It-Yourself' aesthetic. With the increase of technology, opportunities for networking with others seem endless, enabling us to turn out more authors, films, record labels and artists than previous generations. When you put the two together you have the recipe for a generation that is willing to go out and make stuff happen on their own."

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Tom Tresser is an aging boomer, educator, organizer and creativity champion who consults with nonprofits and local governments on using the arts for economic development, civic engagement and celebration.

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When the nerds take over
Posted by: TT5 on Aug 2, 2007 12:13 AM   
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Most of these kids will be completely run by military and economic byrocrats, blindly believing in Americas declining economic and military might. As long as there online, nothing else matters!

Mankind may have reached a bit too high level of "civilization" A global nuclear war caused by a computer bug or a cyberhacker, and a few billion dead will actually do some good! It will be the end of blinb faith in technology.

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» It IS a good thing! Posted by: TT5
» RE: It IS a good thing! Posted by: Fat Man at the Buffet Line
» tt5 is foolish - a waste of time Posted by: monkopotamus
» RE: When the nerds take over Posted by: parmenicleitus
» tt5 = human toilet Posted by: monkopotamus
Working in 'higher' education . . .
Posted by: KaptainSpiffy on Aug 2, 2007 3:23 AM   
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i wouldn't count on anything much from this 'uber consumer' bunch. Totally clueless, for the most part, about the true cost of anything and very unaware 'things' really do cost you something in the end, financially and environmentally. We who are the last of the boom are paying now for the sins of OUR fathers. What a fine bunch we have raised through our daycare 'ranches'.

pfft! stupid humans.

If you're the last to leave, please turn out the lights. it fucks up the baby turtles.

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» Agreed Posted by: EKSwitaj
Teamwork schmeamwork
Posted by: overseas on Aug 2, 2007 3:48 AM   
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I disgree with this article--and I am a late boomer born in early 60s. Teamwork is not about all being on the same blog site at once firing off clever one-liners and doing some pretty cool stuff. It is not about being on the same on-line game with 20 people. The article makes abit of an overstatement of teamwork that is facilitated by technology. But, that is one good step however it takes alot more than that to get along as a team and achieve something useful outside of the virtual world. We cannot avoid the need for social skills to be good team members and members of society inside and outside the virtual one. Just as we boomers inherited the outcomes of our parents (which have both positively and, largley, negatively impacted our social and physical world) the millenials will do the same. It is a tall task. When I die, I want what is left of my fucked up world to be in good hands. Will the 72 hours per work that millenials spend in the digital world make me feel better and put the world in better hands? MAYBE, if we make sure they can do more than just blog and game. It is a wonderful moment and I hope we don't waste it. Now stop fucking around on the internet and get back to work!

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See the ad for "Justin Timberlake's '08 endorsement?"
Posted by: karma_ran_over_dogma on Aug 2, 2007 3:58 AM   
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THAT'S what the world will look like when the Millennials take over!

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"Praise consultant"?
Posted by: kepstein7777 on Aug 2, 2007 4:45 AM   
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I guess all of those annoying Pollyannas have found their calling.

"Smart, savvy, socially-responsible...a generation that is willing to go out and make stuff happen on their own."? Hmmmm...Sounds like what they said about the Boomers back in the 60s. How'd they turn out?

If I had to predict, I think Gen M/Y will be similar to the Boomers. Spoiled by personal blogs and other online gadgets that allow them to feed their narcissism, along with all the promises of personally/financially fulfilling careers, they will repeat the Boomers obsession with money, themselves, and naive ideology. It should be fun to watch.

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» RE: "Praise consultant"? Posted by: solrev
Privilege and Entitlement
Posted by: jhc13 on Aug 2, 2007 5:09 AM   
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I'm sorry, we're talking about when this generation "takes charge"? I wonder why this author cant say anything about class reproduction?

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Take Charge?
Posted by: ghoster on Aug 2, 2007 6:05 AM   
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Ha, they won't take charge of anything unless you count debt as something worthy to take charge of. They will be wage slaves just like we are all wage slaves now. The only difference is that the world will be falling apart even faster than now. Yup, this article is a brain fart of some guy that hasn't a clue about who really runs the world, and guess what? It isn't them, it is called bankers, pin striped bandits and that is it. Quoting; control the money you control the country, control the food you control the people. The mistake is assuming that things will continue as is without dramatic change and upheaval. Wrong on all counts!!!

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» RE: Take Charge? Posted by: Lauren
A Little Dance History
Posted by: kamcallen on Aug 2, 2007 6:20 AM   
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BTW: The Lindy Hop was a dance in the late 20's - early 30's which was named after Lindbergh's historic flight across the Atlantic. The vast majority of people having babies at the end of WWII would have been little kids too young to dance the Lindywhen it was popular. The dance you're thinking of is probably the Jitterbug.

Also BTW: The article is truly awash with nonsense. I've found that the folks this article celebrates are extreme naval-gazers, most of them still living at home, sucking off their oh-so wealthy baby boomer parents. Saviors of democracy and the creators-to-be of the American Utopia? I think not. Personally, we'll be in bigger trouble than ever before.

Karon

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Demographics, anyone?
Posted by: BeeGee on Aug 2, 2007 6:27 AM   
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As a pre-Boomer or Early Boomer myself -- WWII baby and alpha nerd -- I can only wonder what percent of the Gen Y|M group does the above description represent? We know that what used to be minorities in the US are the ones reproducing most prolifically. To what extent does the article also apply to young non-Asians, non-Caucasians of the target age group?

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Not So Sure About This One
Posted by: zutronius on Aug 2, 2007 6:59 AM   
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I don't know if I totally agree with this article. I am a 24 year old University Student and it seems almost everyone I talk to (there are exceptions however) are clueless about political/social/environmental events or news that is happening. If I asked anyone about the North American Union, the people I talked to don't know or don't turn their ipod off. We are a generation that is lost in technology. We have too many distractions to bother to focus on what is happening in the world around us. I too was guilty of this at one time.

My generation needs to turn off their ipods and take their headphones off and start paying attention to everything and DO something!

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» RE: yeah right...but.... Posted by: ekipnrut
4th Turning is about the Authors Grand Kids
Posted by: DeaconJ on Aug 2, 2007 7:02 AM   
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Yah yah, reading the Strauss & Howe book was a fun read, examining the cyclical querks of all past American generations. The blunder they and the re-editor share is this lofty hope placed on Strauss & Howes grandchildren.

Already stamping FAILURE on Gen X / Y these Homo-Illuminus Indigo Children will fix all that is wrong. I read between the lines as the boomers can feel okay that they became so greedy along the way after their shining 60's moments as long as their grandchildren can dig out of the hole they made.

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Same old...
Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Aug 2, 2007 7:03 AM   
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These parasites regurgitate the same pap and garbage about every "generation" every 3 years or so. We hear pretty much the exact same things said every time, and every time someone has a book deal to flog.

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» RE: Same old... Ludd... a dud. Posted by: monkopotamus
» RE: Same old... Ludd... a dud. Posted by: christastropher
» RE: Question for FDPN.... Posted by: ekipnrut
Houston, we have a problem...
Posted by: djnoll on Aug 2, 2007 7:58 AM   
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I have read this article and I have had to deal with many of the newly minted college grads of this Gen Y/M. Not only do they have a lousy work ethic (they do not understand you work for your paycheck on the terms set by the employer, not what you feel like doing!), as civic minded citizens they are totally without a clue for the most part. Hell, most of them couldn't even tell me were Washington, DC actually is!

I recently applied for a teaching post at a local university to teach politics and geography. My degree is in Public Policy and I am writing my PhD dissertation on civic engagement and the Constitution. I have lived in over one-fourth of the states in this union; travelled in all of the lower 48 states; grown up in a home where my father did business around the world and we had foreigners in our home constantly teaching us about their homelands; and tutored world history for two years in college. Believe it or not, all the department head concentrated on was the title on my Masters - Public Administration. He apparently did not read what my dissertation work is on or my Masters area of specialization, both of which could not be more political if they tried. He did not read my cover letter which gave much of my background in the areas to be taught, and while he very politely informed me that they did not have a Public Administration minor yet at this school, it was apparent that he had no idea what position I had actually applied for even though it was clearly stated on the application and the cover letter. So the question that came to my mind was if I did not have the qualifications to teach politics and geography, and the department apparently did not seem to think I did, then what were they looking for?

As it happened I was using the university library for some of my research, and got to talking to a couple of the students who were also using the same section of books as I was, so I asked them some simple questions on politics, geography, and their personal areas of interest. They were all history or political science majors, but they did not know where the political parties had originated or evolved; did not know how to use a map to find places in the central US; one person thought that Bolivia was on the African continent and none could name the continents or define what differentiated a third world nation from an industrial nation. When I asked them about global warming, their response was that it was a problem caused by my generation, and they did not think they should be forced to correct it. When I pointed out that it was a cycle of decisions started by my parent's generation, and aggravated by my generation (baby boomers) because of greed and apathy, they responded with a total lack of interest in correcting the problems. So I asked them why they were studying what they had chosen as majors. The response: there is money in politics and you do not have to work your way up to get the money, you just need to be able to bring in young voters!

We are in big trouble! Schools fail our children; we have failed our children by failing to demand they be educated; we failed ourselves by failing to be ethical or live up to our potential! Baby Boomers may be responsible for prolonging the bad decisions of previous generations, but we are also the brain trust that can come up with the answers we need to solve many of the problems of this world. We better get working, because from what I have seen, we will have a significant gap in drive and intelligence before my grandchildren's generation comes of age. Maybe we aging baby boomers can get through to them what we could not get through to their parents: You WORK for what you get in this world or you get nothing! It is a hard lesson, but better to learn it in a sheltered home filled with caring parents than in the hard cruel world.

http://www.standanddeliveramerica.com

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» RE: Houston, we have a problem... Posted by: ChrisSmith0077
Thanks for the label, don't want it, don't need it
Posted by: sumwoman on Aug 2, 2007 8:49 AM   
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from what i gather, the hippies had to wear tie dye shirts, hip waders,
smoke dope and show up at demonstrations
before people started calling them Hippies.

The Flappers had to flap before they earned the label Flappers.

Bossy corporations are jumping the gun and bestowing labels
on entire generations of people before they are even born.

So exactly what did the Generations X and Y do to get the label X and Y?

To define a generation based on their date of birth, doesn't cut it.

To define a generation based on their
use of slave made gadgets sold to them by corporations, doesn't cut.

or else we would have to call the people born at the end of the last century, generation U,
because they had access to a nifty thing called a telephone.

we would have to call baby boomers, Generation W, because they had access to televisions.

taxed and now branded from birth to death.

i personally belong to generation FED UP!

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Only the upper middle class kids
Posted by: fibrowitch on Aug 2, 2007 9:35 AM   
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Are on line 72 hours a week, and going to college. Most kids are just making it through failing public schools, are on line at best a few hours a week, because parents can't afford to put food on the table, much less purchase a fancy computer.
They expect to take a job they don't like, much less love, work as hard as their parents and not get ahead. Not a single member of the group expects to get praise for just showing up.
Writing in a blog, playing WOW or IM'ing each other on how great they are is not teamwork. This group will never 'run' the world, or do anything harder than walking around looking for free wifi. They will live in their parents homes, and live off their parents as long as they can.

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Read my book on this topic instead!
Posted by: hurricane hugo on Aug 2, 2007 10:18 AM   
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Here it is:

When those that ain't got finally get, they act just like those what got.

The End.

plur

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It's not my problem....
Posted by: christastropher on Aug 2, 2007 10:42 AM   
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Another story about how the next generation is going to save the world. Well how about instead of foisting our mistakes on them alone, we as a society (people of all ages) take responsibility for our plight?

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» BRAVO! Posted by: christininrome
breezy generalization
Posted by: zooeyhall on Aug 2, 2007 11:35 AM   
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"largest, richest and most influential generation in American history were your parents"

Whaaaat?!?

A breezy generalization....millions of us didn't have parents like that.

Certainly not mine. My Dad was a tenent farmer in Nebraska. All he left was a 30 year old modest ranch home.

This is one of the most useless and flufiest articles to appear on Alternet in a loooong time!

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My Experience
Posted by: dkeithley on Aug 2, 2007 12:12 PM   
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Growing up, I've personally been told I'm a member of the Nintendo Generation, Baud Generation, Gen Y, and now Millenials. Trying to lump together such a diverse group under a label is futile, just as trying to define someone by their race or creed.
I'm twenty-four years old, ridiculously well educated, make mediocre pay, and feel helpless. I work for a relatively small corporation that may not live up to my ethical standards, but comparatively is a highly ethical company. I come from a good middle class family. My mother came from blue collar Irish Catholic stock in the Northern Midwest, and my father came from WASPish Ohio aristocracy. I was instilled with a strong work ethic, taught the value of a dollar, and given the opportunity to find my own spiritual beliefs. How naive and pointless would it be for me to believe my experience is anything like that of a first generation American or a Bunn, DuPont or Rockefeller, for that matter? All because we were graced with the same technology or suffered the same historical events?
From what I've seen (thus my experience, not a broad generalization or assumption), most people my age, who a civic minded or politically minded, tend to flit from cause to cause without ever really sinking their teeth into one. I have the same problem be it hobbies, careers, or service commitments. One assertion of the author's I agree with is this: I was raised to believe that through hard work the world was my oyster. Now that it is, I'm overwhelmed by my options.
I live in a largely liberal college town. It has been ranked in the top 15 greenest cities in the world and is a mecca for activism and leftward thinking. My friends refer to me as a socialist. I can tell you, however, that even in this "finest of cities" corporate power trumps all. My friends and I are even beholden to its power. For the author to suggest that "Gen Y" will politically challenge the corporate interest in America or push for an increase in the social safety net is naive at best. Many of my leftist friends still in the hearts hold bootstrap mentalities. I believe it is human nature to balk when our comfort is threatened, and as comfortable as my generation is (this is a broad generalization I feel I can make, because while there are poor and starving in America our quality of life is still miles from anything like a third world nation) I don't see us revolting anytime soon.

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» RE: My Experience Posted by: DaBear
Selling salesmanship.
Posted by: Sojourner on Aug 2, 2007 1:22 PM   
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"This (fill in the blank) will make living better." Isn't it ever possible to say that, yes, electronic communications, travel, and education may provide resources for social advance without turning it into rose-colored glasses? Information comes with disinformation. Travel comes with snobbery. And education comes with expectations.

Caring may make things better, although love still isn't enough. (pace, Bettleheim) Our problem is that each new generation (agreed: our most valuable resource) must learn what earlier generations had to learn--from the ground up. We do a lousy job of that, insofar as earlier generations never grew up themselves.

Reading the book reviewed here may make someone feel good. As already remarked upthread, when you've seen one "Age of Aquarius" you've seen them all. Even if we teach one another how to care (that's what we need to do), you can only lead a horse to water...

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Actually- foreigners are taking over America- and Americans letting it happen.
Posted by: DrSuess on Aug 2, 2007 1:41 PM   
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In response to “Houston, we have a problem...”

I have noticed the same thing that you have- but I have a different reaction to it. There have been many discussions on AlterNet about the dying Middle Class in America. I would like to report that the american Middle Class is alive and well- it is just changing color. When I was growing up in the 60’s and 70’s almost everyone who was anything at the university where my father taught- and whose halls I roamed- was white. I never meet anyone from India or any other foreign nation when I was growing up. Blacks were missing from the academic scene, and there were 1 or 2 Chinese Americans in the university. The doctors that I meet were all white Americans.

Then the physics crash of the mid 70’s happened, when Carter stopped all nuclear research in America. The baby boomer generation started to take over with its “anti-science” beliefs, and “we don’t like physics or chemistry attitudes. It was at that point when I noticed a change beginning to occur. Americans vanished from all of the hard sciences (Physics, Math Chemistry, Engineering, etc), and thirty years later they have still not returned. It was about then that I began to meet people from China and India and other nations in the hard science departments.

Fast forward 30 years- and look at the incredible changes. I don’t know how many doctors come from foreign lands, but it seems that they will soon outnumber native born Americans in the medical field. Walk down the halls of the Engineering department at any American University- and you will notice old Americans- ready to retire- and young foreigners. Doctors, engineers, chemists, and university professors are all middle class people- but they are no longer born in this country.

I look at young Americans and they don’t seem to be willing to do what it takes to step up and be successful. It takes time and hard work to become a computer programmer-or an engineer- or a chemist. Young Americans seem to think that they can put in second class performances, and win first class jobs. There is a phrase that I remember called “cruseing for a bruising”, and that is where I think this generation is heading. If they are not willing to learn- someone else is. That someone else will take all the good middle class jobs- and leave them hanging out wondering why “all the good jobs go overseas” or “go to foreigners”. I know this sounds prejudiced- but the foreigners are stepping up- and the kids are not.

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Don't they say the same thing every five years or so.
Posted by: techphile on Aug 2, 2007 2:53 PM   
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As a 34 year old I remember how silly the GenX thing seemed to me, I also recall that it was more a label that markerters came up with since they could not place a very diverse age group in one category.

All that we are seeing here is that another group of 16-25 year olds have come up who they want to sell shit to so some advertising maven dreams up a title, a label and probably writes 300 pages in large type on what makes this group of under 26 year olds different from the other unique groups of young people. Do they really expect anyone to buy their tripe about how the current crop of 16-25 year olds are all alike in their temperments, world views, aspirations and attitudes.

I think that this type of characterization can be as insulting, incorrect, and uninformative as other forms of ageism, sexism , racism or the other silly prejudices that give us an inaccurate picture of people and the world.

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Stick to Sci-fi, dude
Posted by: DaBear on Aug 2, 2007 3:35 PM   
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Tom needs to stop thinking Kim Stanley Robinson is writing non-fiction. The only thing that was prescient in the piece is the notion of group thinkers pose a challenge to the hierarchal patriarchal corporado edifices that force the ants to march in line day in day out. But then, that's right out of KSR's Mars trilogy isn't it? Wishful thinking doesn't make it happen, no matter what the frufru-happy-happy privileged entitled Boomers say.

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Don't get your hopes up
Posted by: FDPN on Aug 2, 2007 3:39 PM   
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This generation is the one that will abandon social security, medicare, and medicaid in a self interested attempt to balance the budget for future generations - throwing the elderly to the wolves. That is after it becomes obvious that those elderly have mortgaged the future several generations of Americans in order to live the opulent post WW2 life style they have enjoyed. It's a two way street folks, the older generations have screwed the younger generations and squandered America's hard fought prosperity that their elders passed onto them. So don't be shocked when all these young people saying, "old people are worthless, let them die in the streets", back those words up with action. You dug this hole for all of us, we're going to fill it with your withered old corpses.

73% of high school kids want a 4 year degree? Of course they do, the schools push the college route on kids as the only one to a meaningful and moderately successful life. Of course, many of those kids soon realize that in America college requires lots of money and if your parents are poor or unwilling to cosign your student loans - you can't go. College is really the same thing it has always been, a means of excluding poor people from upward social and financial mobility. It is nothing short of a litmus test to make sure you're hiring the "right kind of people" from "the right kind of families."

That is where the hopelessness comes in. I know plenty of young men over 24 that are still living at home working dead end jobs at department stores, construction etc. because that is all they can get hired to do. Ambition is worthless when the world asks you, "where's your degree?" and your only answer is, "I can't afford it."

Our attitudes about work? Let's see:
1. Hanging around at the office 80 hours a week googling your own name just to have "face time" with your boss is retarded.
2. Money isn't everything, but we want lots of it regardless.
3. There is no loyalty in America, anywhere. We are all mercenaries and will jump ship in a matter of seconds.

By the way I'm 25 and at the cusp of this "millennial generation" that has been much lauded from around the time the Berlin wall fell and the teachers started telling us we were so special because we'd be graduating from high school in the year 2000. Big deal, this country has problems so big that no single generation has any hope of tackling them.

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Lets hope and pray the grid doesn't blow...
Posted by: form516 on Aug 2, 2007 5:45 PM   
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For the sake of out little darlins.

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What's REALLY happening in the world, today?
Posted by: willymack on Aug 2, 2007 6:38 PM   
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When I was a young man in the Navy, I was stricken by the intense regionalism I saw everywhere I went. Even our mother country, the UK was that way. This was most evident at soccer matches, where the visiting team members were described as swine, degenerates, brutes, etc. I was amused at this language at first, until the intensity of emotions behind the name calling became clear. It seems there was a psycological need for the opposing teams to be villians, and fair game for vile insults. This tribal instinct almost certainly had a survival value hundreds or thousands of years ago, but is definately not appropriate nowadays as the internet has (electronically) brought the people of the world together and the feeling towards other cultures has turned more benign and understanding. As for "foreign" students moving into academia, we have only ourselves to blame for that. We've been saturated with the lie that we should be able to breeze through life with a minimum of effort for so long that we look down our noses at academically inclined people as "pencil-necked geeks", worthy only of sarcasm and derision, never once making the connection between those people as potential Jonas Saulks or Albert Einsteins, and our well-being.What's REALLY happening in the world today is there for all to see, the beginning of a Golden Age for mankind, based on knowlege and understanding of one another, and attained through modern communications. It'll be a bumpy road though-make no mistake. The same numbskulls who like to bully the nerds in high school still run large parts of the world, including our fascist dictatorship, but, fear not; we'll soon be psssed by and swept away by those with more compassion and education.

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Alternet is full of shit most days
Posted by: ArtemInox on Aug 2, 2007 9:00 PM   
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Really is, and seems to have gotten worse over the past year. What IS this garbage? If youre still taking Alternet seriously, you may as well start listening to Rush Limbaugh and taking him seriously too, it's all part of the same constant dis and misinformation, book and other media plugging garbage that is our wonderful mass media today in all its glory. Not to totally write off Alternet, but the direction it has been heading the last year or so isn't looking so good

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Don't blame the Boomers
Posted by: sumwoman on Aug 2, 2007 10:54 PM   
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Don't blame the boomers,

They had a bit of pioneer smarts in them.

They had one TV, one garage, one car, and dinky 8 track tapes...
but they OWNED their houses after paying into a 20 year mortgage.

Now a days, we complain we don't have enough money to send the kids to educational camp,
though, we have TV sets in every room, we have kick ass entertainment units, we own two cars, etc..

We have lots of STUFF, but we DO NOT own the frigging house we keep this stuff in!
We don't question when our house suddenly becomes twice or three times its worth.
We don't question 50 year mortgages
We just sell and move on.

GREED + Stupidity

Pioneers used to run speculators out of town
Speculators = people in the business of making life more expensive

We dummy moderns invite them into our towns and give them the red carpet treatment!

We beg them to come, we build oversized sporting arenas for them,
we cheer when hordes of drugged up athletes come to our towns and piss steroids into our water system.

In case you hadn't heard, the people of Athens can now run faster,
they have been observed passing batons to each other on their way to work.

this is no way live.

iPod, ShmiPod...we need brains!

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» RE: Don't blame the Boomers Posted by: Aurality
Bubble Gum
Posted by: tiellis on Aug 5, 2007 6:13 AM   
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This article is pure bubble gum--sugary, glib, plastic optimism with no substance, no "nutritional value" for the intellect at all.

First, any and all generalizations about any "generation" are sheer hogwash. My own "baby boom" generation includes every conceivable human type from me to George W. Bush...and I can assure you I have NOTHING in common with him, other than the proximity of our birth dates. Ditto for every other "generation."

Second, the jury is out altogether on whether being "wired" 24 hours a day on cell phones, ipods, palm pilots, laptops, etc. etc. is a good or bad thing. Endless distraction is not the same thing as knowledge, citizenship, or engagement. It's wonderful that each of us can now create and post our own private movies, but that simply turns the rest of us into mindless voyeurs.

But beyond all the glitzy pap in this article, the saddest thing is that it never mentions, to the slightest degree, the all-too-real dangers threatening the future of today's youth: debt slavery, global warming, oil depletion, and corporate fascism, to name a few.

I tremble to imagine what will happen to this "wired" generation when heat-fueled hurricanes and tornadoes cause the overloaded, coal-fired electrical infrastructure that makes it all possible to collapse, causing the lights on their cell phones, televisions, and computers to go dark; when rising fuel prices push their weekly diet of pepsi, Kraft macaroni, and cheetos beyond their minimum wage budget; when the bill comes in on their maxed-out credit cards and they find themselves booted out of their interest-only-mortgaged homes and living on the streets, with the only remaining option being to join the military and get killed or maimed in a perennial war in the Middle East...a glorious future indeed.

My advice to today's youth is quite simple: enjoy your parents' affluence, your "connectedness" while it lasts. But in the meantime, learn how to grow vegetables, collaborate with your neighbors, take care of others, and WAKE UP to the fact that your bubble world is about to collapse into chaos...

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