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Twenty Things You Should Know About Corporate Crime

By Russell Mokhiber, AlterNet. Posted June 16, 2007.


Did you know that corporate crime inflicts far more damage on society than all street crime combined? This and 19 more amazing facts about the state of corporations in America.

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The following is text from a speech delivered by Russell Mokhiber, editor of Corporate Crime Reporter to the Taming the Giant Corporation conference in Washington, D.C., June 9, 2007.

20. Corporate crime inflicts far more damage on society than all street crime combined.

Whether in bodies or injuries or dollars lost, corporate crime and violence wins by a landslide.

The FBI estimates, for example, that burglary and robbery -- street crimes -- costs the nation $3.8 billion a year.

The losses from a handful of major corporate frauds -- Tyco, Adelphia, Worldcom, Enron -- swamp the losses from all street robberies and burglaries combined.

Health care fraud alone costs Americans $100 billion to $400 billion a year.

The savings and loan fraud -- which former Attorney General Dick Thornburgh called "the biggest white collar swindle in history" -- cost us anywhere from $300 billion to $500 billion.

And then you have your lesser frauds: auto repair fraud, $40 billion a year, securities fraud, $15 billion a year -- and on down the list.

19. Corporate crime is often violent crime.

Recite this list of corporate frauds and people will immediately say to you: but you can’t compare street crime and corporate crime -- corporate crime is not violent crime.

Not true.

Corporate crime is often violent crime.

The FBI estimates that, 16,000 Americans are murdered every year.

Compare this to the 56,000 Americans who die every year on the job or from occupational diseases such as black lung and asbestosis and the tens of thousands of other Americans who fall victim to the silent violence of pollution, contaminated foods, hazardous consumer products, and hospital malpractice.

These deaths are often the result of criminal recklessness. Yet, they are rarely prosecuted as homicides or as criminal violations of federal laws.

18. Corporate criminals are the only criminal class in the United States that have the power to define the laws under which they live.

The mafia, no.

The gangstas, no.

The street thugs, no.

But the corporate criminal lobby, yes. They have marinated Washington -- from the White House to the Congress to K Street -- with their largesse. And out the other end come the laws they can live with. They still violate their own rules with impunity. But they make sure the laws are kept within reasonable bounds.

Exhibit A -- the automobile industry.

Over the past 30 years, the industry has worked its will on Congress to block legislation that would impose criminal sanctions on knowing and willful violations of the federal auto safety laws. Today, with very narrow exceptions, if an auto company is caught violating the law, only a civil fine is imposed.

17. Corporate crime is underprosecuted by a factor of say -- 100. And the flip side of that -- corporate crime prosecutors are underfunded by a factor of say -- 100.

Big companies that are criminally prosecuted represent only the tip of a very large iceberg of corporate wrongdoing.

For every company convicted of health care fraud, there are hundreds of others who get away with ripping off Medicare and Medicaid, or face only mild slap-on-the-wrist fines and civil penalties when caught.

For every company convicted of polluting the nation’s waterways, there are many others who are not prosecuted because their corporate defense lawyers are able to offer up a low-level employee to go to jail in exchange for a promise from prosecutors not to touch the company or high-level executives.

For every corporation convicted of bribery or of giving money directly to a public official in violation of federal law, there are thousands who give money legally through political action committees to candidates and political parties. They profit from a system that effectively has legalized bribery.

For every corporation convicted of selling illegal pesticides, there are hundreds more who are not prosecuted because their lobbyists have worked their way in Washington to ensure that dangerous pesticides remain legal.

For every corporation convicted of reckless homicide in the death of a worker, there are hundreds of others that don’t even get investigated for reckless homicide when a worker is killed on the job. Only a few district attorneys across the country have historically investigated workplace deaths as homicides.

White collar crime defense attorneys regularly admit that if more prosecutors had more resources, the number of corporate crime prosecutions would increase dramatically. A large number of serious corporate and white collar crime cases are now left on the table for lack of resources.


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Michael Moore´s Been Trying To Get This Across For Ages
Posted by: ZPaul on Jun 16, 2007 3:22 AM   
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How much attention have we paid to Mike? Time to realize who the worst crooks are.

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4.5
Posted by: kepstein7777 on Jun 16, 2007 4:05 AM   
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Good topic.

If the public really wants to be outraged about double-standards in the legal system, here's where they should be looking, rather than obsessing about Paris Hilton.

We have a deep cultural tolerance for white collar crime. Maybe it's because capitalism is a religion. Maybe it's easier to see crime as a scary black dude mugging an old lady, or a creepy white guy molesting children, as opposed to a clean-cut guy in a suit stealing billions with journal entries.

Good luck trying to overcome those perceptions and getting the public to see white collar crime as real crime. That tolerance seems to be built into the system and hardcoded in our psyche. Even if we all lost our 401ks, all they'd have to do is distract us with a story about a missing white girl.

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» RE: 4.5 Posted by: unity1
Insufficient greed and laziness
Posted by: shangrilalad on Jun 16, 2007 4:09 AM   
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Ronald Wilson Reagan looked at America and decided all our problems stemmed from laziness and insufficient greed. So, with the backing of millions of “Greed is Good” devoted followers, he launched a cultural revolution to encourage greed, reward the greedy and punish the lazy. Some might call that Mammonism or materialism, and the cunning exploitation of human weakness by redefining vice as virtue, but the idea took the country by storm. Since then, redefining vice as virtue and good old testament values such “an eye for an eye,” and militaristic values such as “might makes right,“ have stampeded the country in a direction that millions of Americans have come to fear.

Believe it or not, millions of Americans don’t suffer from insufficient greed or laziness, they simply have different priorities, such as love of family, country, peace and a concern for the health of the only world we have.

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The corporate takeover of the America...
Posted by: Dartagnan on Jun 16, 2007 4:13 AM   
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...and the world

The corporations control almost everything now. Our energy supplies and distribution, the media and it's distribution, the government and it's legislation, many of our our natural resources and going for more (privatizing water!?).

With the power (money) they have, and the established cultural acceptance of the marketing and materialism promoted by mega-corporations, I'm afraid it may be too late to save the republic.

But let's keep trying.

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Corporate Crime Kills
Posted by: DrGeneNelson on Jun 16, 2007 4:31 AM   
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This author has been working very hard to get AlterNet readers to understand that Microsoft Corporation worked with lawyer-lobbyist (and felon) Jack Abramoff to expand the controversial H-1B visa program since Jack was retained in 1995. "Team Abramoff" conspired with corrupt public officials such as Rep. Tom DeLay (Majority Whip at the time) to procure beneficial changes to the "Abramoff Visa" in 1996, 1998, and 2000. Other "high tech" firms were part of the conspiracy. The author has written an investigative article, "The Abramoff Visa" that will be published soon on the topic. Preprints are available with an email request to the author at c0030180[at]airmail-dot-net.

None of the conspirators have been charged as of June 16, 2007, despite causing trillions of dollars in economic losses to the U.S. middle class since the H-1b visa law was enacted in 1990, with help from industry lobbyists.

When American citizens are permanently displaced from their careers by this program, they typically lose their health insurance. This author has personal knowledge of former high tech professionals that have died at age 40 because they no longer had health insurance. Then, there is the tragic case of Kevin Flanagan, a former Bank of America programmer who was forced to train his H-1b visa replacement at the Concord, California data center. After his job was cut, Kevin went to the parking lot and killed himself with a gun. Bank of America was never prosecuted for their role in Kevin's death. Details are available in this May 13, 2003 Contra Costa Times article "Job Losses Sap Morale of Workers" by Ellen Lee at http://www.engology.com/BobFlanagan.htm. See also: Carrie Kirby's June 2, 2003 San Francisco Chronicle Story

I hope this article inspires much needed reforms of U.S. laws. The H-1b visa law is an example of "bad law."

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» RE: Corporate Crime Kills Posted by: Lincoln fan
611?
Posted by: jmndodge on Jun 16, 2007 5:24 AM   
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How about 666, the corporate beast, who mark is necessary to buy and sell. Just seems like an interesting possibility

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» RE: 611? Posted by: VannaLaRoche
» RE: 611? Posted by: JSquercia
» 666 Far more appropriate Posted by: Gravitas
we are substrate
Posted by: schnoggi on Jun 16, 2007 5:50 AM   
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humans have become the substrate on which the dominant lifeform on the planet grows: corporations. we can have our sports, our TV, our prisons and all that, but beneath it all, it's just feed: we are farmed, and owned.

if you haven't yet, please check out this eye-opener:
http://www.tripzine.com/listing.php?smlid=327

on "corporate metabolism"
which at first will seem like a random whatever pair of words. but not for long.

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Too bad
Posted by: VannaLaRoche on Jun 16, 2007 6:36 AM   
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Too bad that Corporate Crime Reporter hasn't got a better writer. I was eager to send this off to others, but changed my mind after reading its choppy mishmash of colloquial outrage and mushy arguments.

The "violent corporate crime" aspect is weak and not particularly convincing on its face. Many might say that "corporate crime is one price we pay for many modern conveniences, so I'm okay with a certain amount of it. It's not like they're shooting people at QuikTrips or carjacking mommies. And most people are gonna die of some disease or other, so it's better than being shot to death."

If you're going to make the argument, you'll have to convince people that having asbestosis is like being pistol-whipped by a mugger. I'm not sure you can, although it has a certain sexiness. But put sexy at the end where you can really flog it, then. You let it die in the middle.

Mokhiber has a good case, but he's presenting it badly with this sloppy piece. He needs to tighten up his twenty and reorder them and sell them better, with fewer single-sentence paragraphs and less repetition, and a scholarly tone might work too. This sounds more like a rant.

Ten I can sell. Like the Commandments. Twelve, maybe--who can name the Supremes? But twenty things to know? Can't count that high. Next.

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internation corporate crime?
Posted by: jmndodge on Jun 16, 2007 6:44 AM   
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Should an article like this address the development of private para military, funding of insurgent groups in foreigh countries, the military contracts to benifet major contributers, or even the role of advertizing money and news reporting policy in MSM. Just a thought...

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» RE: internation corporate crime? Posted by: VannaLaRoche
Student Debt Bondage
Posted by: EKSwitaj on Jun 16, 2007 8:29 AM   
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The mention of how student debt may give young lawyers motivation to represent corporate criminals is actually an example of a broader problem. Young Americans are often forced to take on large debts in order to get an education, which makes them less willing to live in a way consistent with progressive values. How can you survive off of a non-profit salary when you're paying $400 a month on your student loans?

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» RE: Student Debt Bondage Posted by: brainvib
FREE, QUALITY INDEPENDENT NEWS...
Posted by: chamela on Jun 16, 2007 11:24 AM   
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FOR FREE, QUALITY INDEPENDENT NEWS THAT DOES NOT IGNORE GLOBALIZATION AND IS NOT SUBJECT TO CFR INFILTRATION, VISIT http://www.sandersresearch.com

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No Surprise
Posted by: brainvib on Jun 16, 2007 12:22 PM   
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In the words of the late, great Calvin Coolidge, "America's Business is Business" This attitude was again voiced by C. E. Wilson, then CEO of GM, "What is good for GM is good for the country" It is obvious that this attitude is carried forward today and is evidenced by WTO, NAFTA, GAT, other trade treaties and the anti-labor posture of the Federal Government starting with Ronald Reagan.
Check the current attitude of the SEC on rules and regulation governing banking responsibilities for things like ENRON and the Savings and Loan debacle.
In short, "NO SURPRISES" in this article.
Do not for a moment think it is entirely a Rep action, Bill Clinton was a huge force behind NAFTA.
Remember, BIPARTISANSHIP occurs when Dems and Reps in Congress act in unison to screw over the rest of us.

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Corporate Corruption '07 - Politics in Porn
Posted by: bryceboogie on Jun 16, 2007 1:01 PM   
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How long will Atty. General Alberto Gonzalez and his embattled Justice Dept. along with the IRS, FBI, and Presidential candidate Sen. Sam Brownback allow UPS, Movie Gallery and notorious pornographer Larry Flint, CEO of the Hustler empire to ship and sell obscene and explicit material(XXX rated dvds and magazines). A clear violation of the FEDERAL RICO STATUE AND LAW. Yet go after and vigorously prosecute the individuals and mom/ pop stores that violate these very same laws. What's the difference, about $2 billion in annual sales and counting, and heavy contributions to the Republican Party. Political payoffs to the Federal Judges and Atty. Generals of each state involved in this government and corporate coverup. For more info check out www.illegaladvantage.com and www.politicsinporn.com, you will be amazed. Be sure to look on the website and it states clearly what is a violation of the RICO act. Also look at the related links for visual and legal evidence.

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» RE: Rupert 'Porn' Murdoch Posted by: bob t
11. In health fraud cases, find an empty closet or defunct entity to plead guilty.
Posted by: ssegallmd on Jun 16, 2007 1:22 PM   
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"11. In health fraud cases, find an empty closet or defunct entity to plead guilty.

The government has a mandatory exclusion rule ... is the equivalent of the death penalty... [i]f a major drug company can’t do business with [the government]

The prosecutor will allow a unit of the corporation that has no assets to plead guilty... therefore that unit will be excluded from [gov't participation] which doesn’t bother the parent corporation"


I just finished reading an example of this very thing in a syndicated editorial from Darrel Lease of the Herald-Tribune, Sarasota FL, which you can find HERE.

Halliburton was recently found to be doing business secretly (and illegally) with Iran, which, if this were a just country, normally would lead not only to a loss of its ability to do business with the United States government in the future, but criminal prosecution of its officers for treasonous consorting with the enemy (Iran is, after all, one of the "Axis of Evil" in the War on Terr').

Senator Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) says, ""Companies that help terrorist states ... generate revenues that are helping fund terrorist operations."

Find out how Halliburton shifted the onus to its dingleberry subsidiary Halliburton Products and Services Limited, which, apparently, isn't even an American company (registered in the Caymans, of course). They've never done business with the US, and now, they never will. The American Company Halliburton, owner of the Cayman scam company, is unaffected.

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Former United Health Care CEO had over $1.6 billion in predated stock options given to him.
Posted by: johngary66 on Jun 16, 2007 10:42 PM   
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While the case has been in the courts for a number of years, along with a stock holder suit, who really thinks anything will happen? The top executives of the company were given close to 6 billion dollars in backdated stocks. Gee I wonder why health care is so expensive. the following is from an AFL-CIO study of corporate executive pay. "UnitedHealth Group CEO William W. McGuire will receive an annual supplemental retirement benefit for his lifetime. If he retires at age 65, his pension benefit will equal 65 percent of his average cash compensation over his past 36 months of employment. This special pension benefit is part of McGuire’s employment agreement.[1] Ironically, this special pension guarantee probably will not be necessary for McGuire to have a secure retirement. On paper, McGuire is a stock option billionaire with $1,776,547,635 in unexercised stock options as of Dec. 31, 2005.[2] "

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AMERIKA CORP UNLIMITED –> (Psyop Monopoly Crime State)
Posted by: Hal on Jun 17, 2007 1:15 AM   
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The greatest corporate crime org in human history is not touched on in this good but limited hangout story.

That would be a privately rigged and thus, unconstitutional “Federal Reserve” Corp (not federal, no reserves). Thru its monopoly parasite string-pullers, the “Fed” and its Washington-London-MSM vassals are directly responsible for virtually every major war and economic dysfunction since before WW I and the Great Depression.

Is it any wonder?

Significant war and manmade crisis is always hatched over public blood money extorted for private power. And corporate crime on any list takes its cue from the grotesque core of the system itself.

Thus, whoever (literally) makes the fiat money, makes the rules and rigs the horror show.

A few words from those who knew the blood money farce first hand…


“The Federal Reserve System is a legal private monopoly of the money supply operated for the benefit of the few under the guise of protecting and promoting the public interest."
ANTONY SUTTON (Professor of Economics California State University. 1925-2002)

“This [Federal Reserve] Act establishes the most gigantic trust [private monopoly] on earth. When the president [Wilson] signs this bill, the invisible government of the money power will be legalized… The worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking and currency bill.”
CONGRESSMAN CHARLES A. LINDBERG SR. (at Congress in opposition to the global banking cartel and its privately owned “Federal Reserve” Corporation monopoly. December 23rd, 1913)

“Britain is the slave of an international financial bloc.”
BRITISH PRIME MINISTER DAVID LLOYD GEORGE (on the money cartel June 20, 1934)

“If you want to be the slaves of [private cartel] banks and pay the cost of your own slavery, then let the [private cartel] banks create money…”

“The modern [cartel] banking system creates money out of nothing…[private cartel] bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create money and control credit, and with a flick of a pen they will create enough to buy it back.”
SIR JOSIAH STAMP (Governor of the privately owned Bank of England. Quotes 1928 and 1920)

“Some people think the Federal Reserve Banks are U.S. government institutions. They are not…The sack of the United States by the Fed is the greatest crime in history…The truth is the Fed has usurped the government. It controls everything here and it controls all our foreign relations. It makes and breaks governments at will.”
CONGRESSMAN LOUIS T. MCFADDEN (Chairman, House Banking & Currency Committee, June 1932)

“The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the larger centers has owned the government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson.”
PRESIDENT FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT (on oligarch rule in a letter to handler “Colonel” Edward M. House, confidence man for the cartel and founder of the Council on Foreign Relations. House also handled President Wilson in the foisting of a private and unconstitutional “Federal Reserve” Corporation sham with its IRS in 1913. November 21st, l933)

“The end of democracy and the defeat of the American Revolution will occur when government falls into the hands of lending institutions and moneyed incorporations…
I believe that [private cartel] banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies…”

PRESIDENT THOMAS JEFFERSON (a founder of America on private cartel power. In a letter to the Secretary of the Treasury Albert Gallatin, 1802. Published 1809)

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Big business runs the US
Posted by: Reader11722 on Jun 17, 2007 5:57 AM   
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This is a surprise? Corporations and gov't are merely quid-pro-quo whorehouses sold to the highest bidder. When the gov't needs illegal wire-taps, Verizon and Sprint allow them secret rooms to listen in on calls. When Haliburton (and KBR) need more revenue, the gov't hands out no-bid contracts. When the gov't dislikes literature, Amazon and Wikipedia ban the book "America Deceived". We The People had our gov't (and our health) sold out from beneath us.
Final link (before Stark County District Library caves to pressure and drops the title):
America Deceived (book)

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Every working American for him or herself.
Posted by: HughScott on Jun 17, 2007 12:07 PM   
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By now, it should be clear that the country I grew up in during 1940s and 50s has changed for the worse. The shared sacrifice that got us through WWII has been replaced by runaway greed fueled with tax cuts that favor rich people at the expense of middleclass citizens and the working poor.

The biggest pigs at the trough are, without doubt, corporations. To expect them to be honest and not act criminally is to believe in Santa Claus and whatever George Bush says.

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Nothing new
Posted by: Maryanne on Jun 17, 2007 5:22 PM   
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Studs Terkel's "Hard Times" and Judith Nies "Seven Women" clearly point out that throughout the worker has always been considered not human, but part of the machinery, to be used as needed, and discarded when used up. This was with absentee owners in the past, and now with corporate control .

We have moved into a stage where, thanks to the work and sacrifice of unions in the past there is much that we now have taken for granted. We do not realize that the workers are still being treated the same,as in the past , although not quite so obviously. Gains that had been made in the past are again being lost; effective propaganda against unions which has painted them as greedy, demanding unreasonable wages and benefits, has been accepted by much of the public. The public sees wprkers, but not the machinations of corporations, and so gives government free rein to continue harrassing unions and workers, them while granting everything to corporations.

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» RE: Nothing new Posted by: Lincoln fan
» RE: Nothing new Posted by: Maryanne
This is a great story
Posted by: Cruella on Jun 17, 2007 5:42 PM   
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In the UK we have been trying to get a corporate manslaughter bill through for ages and we got this pathetic watered-down thing through that means nothing. Here is my post.

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disgustedgeezer
Posted by: jbwestwood on Jun 17, 2007 6:36 PM   
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Ralph Nader is, in my limited knowledge, our only relentlessly consistent foe of corporatocracy and even his voice seems to be fading. The June 9 'conference' in D.C. labeled Taming the Giant Corporation, at which Mokhiber spoke, required a fee to attend and was little publicized--probably intentional disregard.

Thom Hartmann is correct in his charge that "corporate personhood" rests on an unquestioning acceptance of an "insufficiently legal" 14th Amendment decision by the Supreme Court in its review of the controversy between Union Pacific Railroad and Santa Clare County in 1886.

I've heard that the Federal Reserve System indeed has a corporate structure in which there are two classes of shares: Class B being owned entirely by the US Government and Class A whose owners are "hidden". What these distinctions (if true) signify is beyond my ken. I've always accepted that the Feds role in setting interest rates was an economic necessity even though I feared that Nixon's abandonment of any role for gold was political chicanery.

So what's your point blabbermouth? Well, here it is, as nicely as I can make it.
- Thinkers don't need Nader to tell them that Demicans are tweedledum/tweedledee puppets dancing on the same corporate strings with little fear of constituents.
- Thinkers do need help in deciding how to empower progressives in the face of seemingly insurmountable odds in primary elections nationwide. For example should the approach be a nibbling one in select states or should it be more broad?
- Thinkers have to know that the nations ills are deeply ingrained and maybe incurable in view of globalization, media consolidation, immigrant invasion, etc, etc.

My grandfatherly hope is that the spectre of global warming, the growing realization that obscene wealth disparity is socially cancerous, and that the educational effect of the blogosphere will cause us to realize that our words (mine included) cannot substitute for ACTIONS.

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The United Corporations of America
Posted by: KevinZorren on Jun 18, 2007 9:14 AM   
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I must agree with everything Mr. Mokhiber wrote.
I believe Corporate Criminals should be punished more severely. It has been my opinion for some time now that we no longer live in the United States of America, but rather the United Corporations of America since the major corporations clearly run everything-- including our government.
It makes sad commentary on our justice system when a small company commits a minor crime, they not only face prosecution, loss of business and possible prison time, but when the major corporations knowingly commit major crimes, they simply get a slap on the wrist, if that.
A good example of how major corporations are running (and ruining) this country can be found on www.IllegalAdvantage.com, a website devoted to exposing the governments unfair protection against major corporations like Movie Gallery, UPS, Larry Flynt and several other corporations for the illegal sale and distribution of illegal obscene pornography while small video retailers who attempt to keep up with the demand by offering less severe content face federal prosecution.
And according to section 18 of Mr. Mokhiber's "Twenty Things You Should Know About Corporate Crime", Section 18 seems to be one of my most favored section, citing "For every corporation convicted of bribery or of giving money directly to a public official in violation of federal law, there are thousands who give money legally through political action committees to candidates and political parties. They profit from a system that effectively has legalized bribery."
That statement holds so very true in RICO (Racketeering Influenced and Corrupt Organizations) cases listed on IllegalAdvantage.com.
As an attempt to maintain their illegal activity, corporations will contribute to both candidates running for political office. This ensures that no matter who wins, they can continue their illegal activity without fear of prosecution because clearly the Judge, Mayor, Governor, etc. do not want to prosecute a corporation which largely contributed to their successful outcome in their political race.

I fear what will come of this country by the time my children are my age. I can only imagine that by that time, in order to successfully be voted President of the United States of America, rather than having served time defending our country in the military, you would had to have been CEO of a major corporation-- thus truly creating "The United Corporations of America".

God help us.

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Corporate Murder but also The FDA and Bush are killing us..!
Posted by: TJ-stars4peace on Jun 18, 2007 10:12 AM   
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BUSH AND THE FDA HAVE KILLED MORE AMERICANS THAN al-QAEDA..!

THAT'S A FACT...!

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Silly at best ...
Posted by: KnowFool on Jun 18, 2007 12:24 PM   
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When the mongols stormed down the Asian steppes through China, they butchered every farmer they could. Historians say that people have no compassion for ways of life they don't understand. The author paints a picture of this Corporate Enemy with examples like auto repair fraud and tainted food (like those are unique or even relavant to corporations?). Tell me how a society would look without large financial institutions floating credit for you to buy a house, your company to build offices, your state and country to invest in roads. I think the author's opinion would change if he spent an afternoon reading an economics book with an open mind.

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CORPORATE "CRIME" VS GOVERNMENT CRIME
Posted by: Jak_dah_rippah on Jun 20, 2007 4:09 AM   
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governments have intentionally murdered hundreds of millions of innocents in just the last 100 years.

How many innocents have corporations tortured, shot, and starved in the last 100 years.

note how paraniod and confused the left is when placing blame on the globe's misery and its main source.

Note also that the left wants to take power away from a neutral benevolent entity (business/corporations) and put more power into the hands of a overwhelmingly more malevolent power (government)

I CHALLENGE any leftist on this blog to cite the most heinous human rights violation committed by "corporations" in the last 100 years in order from 1-10 and I will cite intentional systemic cold-blooded atrocities committed by governments that will dwarf anything remotely approaching the random unintentional abuses by corporations.

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Re:
Posted by: KevinZorren on Jun 20, 2007 6:23 AM   
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So go ahead and cite them. I'm curious.

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I OWE MY SOUL...
Posted by: bob t on Jun 20, 2007 1:17 PM   
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...to the company store. Tennesee Ernie Ford sand that song. Old miners can attest to the truth of that. Although most old miners are dead miners because of 'black lung'.
Also remember the miners who died in the two W.Va. cave-ins; also the miners in, I think it was N. Carolina who died that same year just a month later.
And yet who do the people of W.Va. and N. Carolina vote for, Bush and the Republican party. It has been stated by mine safety experts that Bush has gutted the MSHA and the enforcement thereof.
The catholic church, my church supports Bush and the Republican party and has when Reagan and daddy Bush, both killers of nuns came to power. WHY?
One mine safety expert who very clearly made the case against Bush and the mine owners collusion/ corruption/ criminality works at Franciscan University in W.Va. and yet the Franciscans are staunch supporters of the Republican party. It's amazing that mine safety expert still has a job teaching at that University. He was absolutely correct in all of his comments as to why those men died.
For anyone who does not remember those events just Google them up.
I watched it all unfold when those mines caved in and those innocent miners died. Just where is the pro-life and pro-family Republican party in all of that. Just where is the catholic church in all of that, supporting the Republican party is where the catholic church was is are in all of that, and still is.
No religion should ever endorse any political party. When religion merges with the slime of politics and especially with the slime of Republican politics, the party of war-death-kill for profit and world domination, something is EXTREMELY TERRIBLY WRONG.
The conflation of religion, politics and corporatocracy is clearly a sellout by that religion of their religious values. I call that 'Theofascist Republicanism', among many other things including heresy, blasphemy, sacrilege and the sin of religious PRIDE. ...and the worst of these is the first, referring to the sin of PRIDE.
It becomes an even more egregious form of the sin of PRIDE, if such a thing is possible, when it is forced down the throats of all others who then become stripped of their God given FREE WILL and thus their very soul. No FREE WILL = No SOUL.

Somehow I just don't think the 'Nuremburg Defense' of the pope made me do it just won't be accepted on judgement day. I seem to think that on judgement day each person will be judged by what each person did, not on what someone else told them to do. The soul is given by God and must answer to God, not to any man made religion.

I'll follow that liberal Jewish guy who lived some 2000yrs ago and preached LOVE; not killing for profit, the Republican party, and their savior GWB, who claims to be Christ.

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How do you plan on jailing a corporation?
Posted by: EagleMB on Jun 21, 2007 2:45 AM   
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This article has so many false statements, it doesn't surprise me that liberals are brainwashed into being anti-corporation. But there is one recurring theme I had to address.

The article criticizes the practice of non prosecution agreements; yet eliminating them would mean more prosecution costs with fewer results. A corporation cannot be jailed. When a corporation violates a law and is found guilty, the result will always be a fine. The non prosecution agreements allows the government to save on prosecution costs, while maintaining the same (or better) result as they would if they did prosecute.

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Healthcare fraud - provider AND Medicare complicity
Posted by: ridedog007 on Jun 26, 2007 9:14 AM   
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Several years back I donated most of my left index to a table saw (I never saw it coming!). Went to the local hospital ER. Waited 3 hours to see the doc. I told the doctor to take it off as it would be minimally useful due to vessel and ligament damage. He got it in a room in emergency, not a surgical theater nor any 'specialized' exam room. The bill came to ~$2300. $500 for the doctor and the rest of the $1800 to the hospital.

I called Medicare and asked them to review the billing. They claimed the amount they paid was acceptable. I was scientist in the medical field and protested that their payoff way too much. They repeated that their agency did not think the charges were out of line. I told em, "... is why you have funding shortfalls and problems."

I recently went to the ER with an infected cat bite. Got the Medicare benefit summary with a $1900 price tag. $400 for the doc, $1500 to the hospital.

This time I did not waste a phone call. If Medicare and the providers are on the same side, We the People will watch medical costs climb skyward and no chance of relief for a long long time.

Cor-whore-perate fraud and the repukes backed Tricky Dick Nixxon, Ronnie Raygun, Bushwhacker Sr. and junior 'whacker. It looks like business as usual for a long long time in a galaxy far far away!

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Rape and Murder are far worse
Posted by: josh10002 on Jul 1, 2007 10:21 AM   
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Let's think about this for a minute - would you rather some corporate big wig steal a few thousand dollars out of your pension fund or would you rather be murdered or someone in your family raped?

Nice try, but the logic is missing.

What is up with the people who blindly label all corporations as evil?

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