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Rise of the New Atheists

By Ronald Aronson, The Nation. Posted June 16, 2007.


An increasingly outspoken community of atheists and agnostics is getting fed up with being marginalized, ignored and insulted.
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What began with publisher W.W. Norton taking a chance on a gutsy, hyperbolic and idiosyncratic attack on religion by a graduate student in neuroscience has grown into a remarkable intellectual wave. No fewer than five books by the New Atheists have appeared on bestseller lists in the past two years -- Sam Harris's The End of Faith and Letter to a Christian Nation, Daniel Dennett's Breaking the Spell, Richard Dawkins's The God Delusion and now Christopher Hitchens's God Is Not Great. The scandalized media have both attacked and inflated the phenomenon. After the New York Times Book Review, for example, ran a thoughtful review of Harris and then a negative front-page review of Dawkins, the daily paper published two weak op-ed attacks on the writers and a vapid article on how atheists celebrate Christmas, followed by tongue-in-cheek admiration in the Book Review for Hitchens's ability to promote his career by saying the unexpected.

Despite such dubious blessings, the four have become must-read writers. The most remarkable fact is not their books themselves -- blunt, no-holds-barred attacks on religion in different registers -- but that they have succeeded in reaching mainstream readers and in becoming bestsellers. Is this because Americans are beginning to get fed up with the religiosity of the past several years? It would be comforting if we could explain this as a cultural signal of the end of the right-wing/evangelical ascendancy. Such speculations are probably wishful thinking -- book buyers are such a small slice of the population that few sociologists would stake their careers on claiming that book buyers' preferences reflect anything like a national mood.

The success of the New Atheists may, however, reflect something significant among their audience. In the past generation in the United States, atheists, agnostics and secular humanists have been a timid minority -- almost voiceless, often on the defensive, routinely derided, both warned against and ignored. As Susan Jacoby pointed out in her book Freethinkers, it is symptomatic of the situation that the most dramatic presidential address in generations took place in the National Cathedral three days after September 11, 2001, so filled with religious language that it sounded like a sermon. It was delivered by a President flanked by Jewish, Muslim and Christian representatives, a model of religious inclusiveness, without anyone standing alongside them representing the tens of millions of nonreligious Americans. At this most important collective moment in our recent history, it was as if they did not exist. This is what the polls are telling us: Virtually everyone in America believes in God.

We know how zealously the conservative Christian denominations have politicized themselves in the past generation, how the GOP has harnessed this energy by embracing their demands -- opposing stem-cell research, gay marriage and abortion rights, championing government aid to religious schools and faith-based social programs -- and by appointing sympathetic judges. So effectively have they framed the issues that, according to the Pew Research Center's 2006 report on religion and public life, fully 69 percent of Americans believe that liberals have "gone too far in trying to keep religion out of schools and government."

We commonly hear that only a tiny percentage of Americans don't believe in God and that, as a Newsweek poll claimed this spring, 91 percent do. In fact, this is not true. How many unbelievers are there? The question is difficult to assess accurately because of the challenges of constructing survey questions that do not tap into the prevailing biases about religion. According to the American Religious Identification Survey, which interviewed more than 50,000 people, more than 29 million adults -- one in seven Americans -- declare themselves to be without religion. The more recent Baylor Religion Survey ("American Piety in the 21st Century") of more than 1,700 people, which bills itself as "the most extensive and sensitive study of religion ever conducted," calls for adjusting this number downward to exclude those who believe in a God but do not belong to a religion. Fair enough. But Baylor's own Gallup survey is a bit shaky for at least two reasons.


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Ronald Aronson is the author of The Dialectics of Disaster, After Marxism and Camus and Sartre: The Story of a Friendship and the Quarrel That Ended It. His latest book is Living Without God, to be published next year by Counterpoint. He teaches at Wayne State University.

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A good article; a few thoughts and criticisms
Posted by: jwc on Jun 16, 2007 1:20 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I was very pleased to find such an important (to me anyway) article on alternet. Here are some thoughts on a few quotes that stuck out as I was reading:

"Dawkins might have considered their readers more and disciplined their own need to follow out every line of thought, while Harris is so full of his point of view that he, like "Hitchens, is unable to consider faith as anything but stupid."

-I define faith as believing in something for no other reason than wanting it to be true. I might take it even further and say it was believing in something because there was no evidence for it. Yes, I believe that faith is stupid.

"Living without God means turning toward something."

-I, and many other atheists, am sick of hearing this as if it were a legitimate argument. It's like saying "living without the tooth fairy means turning toward something." No, it doesn't. It means I have more time to focus on more important things, like reality.

"And -- I save for last the touchiest question of all -- shouldn't all Americans be instructed in the great religious and secular traditions, as well as their greatest books? After all, achieving literacy in both religion and secularism might allow us to discuss them more intelligently."

-I'm not sure why the author felt this were a touchy question. I am a teacher and wholeheartedly agree that everyone (myself included) would benefit from being better educated in all the major world religions. I'm certainly willing to have an intelligent conversation about religion, and am even willing to have it in a public school classroom (in the context of a religious studies course, not in a biology class). I also contend that non-fundamentalist christians are the ones who most need an education about their religion, as I think you would be hard-pressed to find many that had actually read the bible in full and understood how ridiculous it is.

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» he'll never get it, jwc Posted by: EasterBunny
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» Faith hurts Posted by: Fog
It is about time someone blew down the door on the taboo against criticizing religion -
Posted by: zyxwvut on Jun 16, 2007 1:47 AM   
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with a stick of dynamite no less! Religion is retarded, offering no evidence while making extravagant claims, preaching moral rectitude while accumulating power and motivating atrocities.

I cannot stand criticisms of pro-science views which claim that advocates of science go too far - that they become dogmatic. Last I read, the Big Bang theory and evolution were quite well evidenced, both empirically and rationally (in terms of fitting with an internally consistent naturalistic ontology). Religion has never backed up its claims so well, or at all.

Also, there is a problem with "epistemological libertarianism," which I define as the conviction that it is perfectly fine to believe in absurdities at the individual level as long as these beliefs do not penetrate the larger structures of society, especially government. Epistemological libertarianism accepts the individual's right to adopt atheism, religion, philosophy, or any other worldview without being sanctioned by society, as if every one of them is equally valid.

But libertarianism serves the interests of freedom, even the freedom to ignorance, when people would be better served by facts and reality. If there is a possibility of dismantling the religious norms of American culture, we would do better to replace the existential system of religion with one of science - one where people are pressured to learn and respect science, making it the lens through which the majority views the world. In this scenario, a scientific worldview would be supported by the power of social norms. This scenario contrasts with epitemological libertarianism in that the latter would not apply a normative structure to bolster one view or another, thus allowing religion to coexist with science, and therefore to go on deluding people with its myths and to continue making its claims of metaphysical supremacy.

Instead of a society that (ostensibly) strives toward the ideals of freedom, perhaps we should aim for a society that emphasizes the ideals of truth.

Still, at this time it would be prudent to ally with people who want to drive religion out of the public and official spheres, whether or not they want science to gain ascendency in its place.

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“the possible sum of unbelievers is nearly one in four Americans”
Posted by: freedom on Jun 16, 2007 1:58 AM   
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Polls are probably not accurate when it comes to who believes in God in America, as most people in a society are overwhelmed by the status quo or the “social desirability effect” as Aronson puts it. Although I don’t believe in “God” I do have my little superstitions which I am quite happy with. Everyone ought to be able to have them without being called ignorant or discriminated against; that is, as long as you don’t create an organized religion and culture where it becomes socially undesirable for others not to believe. This has been one of the problems with all organized religion.

Robert Lightfoot

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Another Problem with Baylor Study
Posted by: Tatarize on Jun 16, 2007 2:27 AM   
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They class atheists at 5% because those are the only people who said that God, absolutely doesn't exist. Not those who don't believe, or those who think they chance to too low to avoid laughing at... just those who say absolutely doesn't exist. The Baylor study would declare Richard Dawkins a theist.

That's a pretty big problem.

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» "Flexibility" of atheism Posted by: justAnEgg
» Yes Posted by: cmysticism
» Get out of my head Posted by: Fog
» **applause** Posted by: themotie
Why did you have to ruin it?
Posted by: NaomiC on Jun 16, 2007 4:13 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
By finishing with this:

And -- I save for last the touchiest question of all -- shouldn't all Americans be instructed in the great religious and secular traditions, as well as their greatest books? After all, achieving literacy in both religion and secularism might allow us to discuss them more intelligently.

I wasn't always an atheist. So I have read the bible; in fact, I've read it more thoroughly than most of the theists I talk with. But as a general rule, most of the theists I've talked with have read few books, and not even their bible!

Sometimes, I think they don't read it because it's such a long book. In the meantime, they know that every Sunday, someone will interpret it for them, in small bite-sized, easy-to-digest portions. What they don't know is there are things buried in the bible that they wouldn't agree to; their interpreters skirt around these unpalatable parts, like stoning disrespectful children! Instead, they take as "gospel" that homosexuality is evil; it's only evil in the OT. And abortion is not mentioned at all.

But I do like your numbers. It is heartening to see "almost one in four", instead of the piddling 3% that the RaptureRight insists is the portion of atheists in the US.

To all the theists that would like us to STFU, I say, "Step back from the Constitution. Keep your hands off our government and your eyes off our bodies and out of our bedrooms. Just mind your own damned business". At that point, when we no longer hear a peep out of you theists, we'll go back to being the silent menace that threatens your faith.

We're the "monster in the closet", aren't we? *BOOO!*

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My 2cents
Posted by: redstarwraith on Jun 16, 2007 4:28 AM   
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Some observations:
1)There are virtually no good sociologists of religion in america. In fact, the discipline of sociology is one of the most acdemically vacuous fields in all of acedemia. Not surprisingly, sociology of religion suffers the same ills. All american sociology does is throw the word "religiousity" around and measure "phenomenon" while mostly ignoring historical context.
2) Sam Harris's book is a study in how NOT to construct an arguement. One of the most poorly executed arguements i've ever seen in fact (and i tend towards aetheism 90% of the time). Sam Harris is merely famous for being famous. . .his book (mentioned herein) is so full of holes as to be laughable.

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Myth of Religions-Origin of Sun God Myth-Christ is One
Posted by: Bushguiltyof911 on Jun 16, 2007 4:47 AM   
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MUST SEE. TIES TOGETHER THE TOOLS USED BY THE ELITE POWERS TO CONTROL US!!
"Zeitgeist, The Movie"-Tools of Control: Religion, War, Mass Media Propaganda, Mass Media Entertainment, Central Banks and Purposeful Failure to Educate
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/index.html

"They must find it difficult...
Those who have taken authority as the truth,
rather than truth as the authority."

Thank you for your interest in Zeitgeist.
Zeitgeist was created as a not for profit work to inspire people to start looking at the world
from a more critical perspective. The large Internet response for this film was very unexpected,
as the work itself is not finished. The Google release was simply to show immediate friends
& consultants. Over the course of the next few weeks a new version of the work will be presented.
In all humility I want to point out that 99% of the information in the current work is accurate.
The 1% that is highly debatable is going to be clarified or removed. The graphics are also going to be
improved. Furthermore, on this site there will be a source list for the entire film, detailed by segment.
It is my hope that people will not take what is said in the film as the truth, but find out for themselves.

Thank you



Zeitgeist is originally a German expression that means "the spirit of the age", literally translated as "time (Zeit) spirit ( Geist)". It describes the intellectual and cultural climate of an era.

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They Are Down To One God And A World Full Of Idiots
Posted by: hole11 on Jun 16, 2007 4:58 AM   
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How many gods were there at one time? Then there is something called the trinity. Then their are all the symbols and rituals, not to mention the superstitions that go with religions of our day.

But what is the incentive to believe? That there is life after death? The one godders don't believe in reincarnation (or do they), so they believe everyone goes to their proper place and live like they did in their prime here on earth. Maggots don't mind if you think you are going someplace great when you die. Just ask god if you ever find him.

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I want to attend GW's church
Posted by: White middleclass male on Jun 16, 2007 5:30 AM   
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I'm not talking about the Christian church that he attends for show. I want the one where the Saudi family, jewish insurance overlords, and the fortune 500 WASPs sit around giving each other hand jobs and discussing how to best to move their pawns. I know I don't have the traditional pedigree that the other groups have but don't they some type of “Boot Straps” program for aspiring megalomaniacs like myself?

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I want to attend GW's church
Posted by: White middleclass male on Jun 16, 2007 5:30 AM   
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I'm not talking about the Christian church that he attends for show. I want the one where the Saudi family, jewish insurance overlords, and the fortune 500 WASPs sit around giving each other hand jobs and discussing how to best to move their pawns. I know I don't have the traditional pedigree that the other groups have but don't they some type of “Boot Straps” program for aspiring megalomaniacs like myself?

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» Maybe Princess Diana's seat is still open. Posted by: White middleclass male
Definitions.
Posted by: douglashoyt on Jun 16, 2007 5:33 AM   
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Until "God" is defined appropriately, we cannot have any rational debate or discussion upon it.

This "god" is like a mirage, it disappears once closely looked upon.

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Say a Prayer!
Posted by: Conservasaurus on Jun 16, 2007 5:43 AM   
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"Religious right" while a movement that scares even Christians, seems to be used as an encompassing term to include all Christians.. It, like any other extremeist faith, is intollerent of others, and Catholics especially. It should not be confused with most Christians. It is a force/cult that goes beyond religion that is seperate from religious discussion.

""28 percent deny that the United States is a Christian nation"". Well, then 28% of the nation has their head stuck in the sand because about 80% are Christian..America is a Christian nation, no doubt.

Most dramatically, a whopping 49 percent believe that Christian conservatives have gone too far "in trying to impose their religious values on the country..........Where the Atheist run into trouble is that there has been an assault on the Christian faith in this country for a number of years now.. Law suits against Christmas Trees in public places, Major chain stores refusing to acknowledge Christmas or haveing a policy of not wishing Merry Christmas etc.. The majority of this country's faith is under assault by a vocal minority.. Most Christian are offended by the religious minority trying to erase the countries expression of their beliefs.. Try that in a muslim country or Israel for example.

One hardly hears of Christians , if at all, bringing law suits against minority faiths expressing their religious beliefs..

"After all, unbelievers are concentrated at the higher end of the educational scale -- ..that 31 percent of those with postgraduate education do not avow belief in God ""..... Well, most in the highly educated medical profession in the US discount Eastern Medical practices as VooDoo medicine, and we know how wrong that is.. So for the highly educated atheist to discount something they cannot see, feel or touch only emphasises the lack of REAL education in their studies! Being led down a path by text books does not equate to "education" in many cases - it's just book knowledge.

In recent polls, far more respondents have declared themselves willing to vote for a woman or African-American for President than for an atheist -- atheists are more unpopular than gays. Wonder why that is!!!.. keep assulting, and degrading the majority of the country and then hope you can run for office.. maybe a "prayer" would help!

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Science and religion?
Posted by: OneAcre2012 on Jun 16, 2007 5:46 AM   
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Until someone starts talking about mushrooms, peyote, and other hallucinogenics, there can be no intelligent discussion of science and religion. Anyone who has any experience with these knows what I'm talking about. Most important to derive from the experience is that it's as individual and sovereign as it is collective and communal.

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There may not be any atheists in foxholes,
Posted by: orwellwasn'tdreaming on Jun 16, 2007 5:50 AM   
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but there are a lot of a**holes in religion.

Marginalized, ignored and insulted? Beleagured? I don't feel that way, but perhaps it's because I'm not too concerned about what other people think about my beliefs (or lack thereof). I'm comfortable enough in them not to have to force them on anyone in an attempt to prove their validity. The deeply devout must be deeply insecure, since they don't seem comfortable unless everyone feels precisely as they do. Do they fear that doubt is contagious?

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» I can't disagree, but Posted by: orwellwasn'tdreaming
NOT just atheists and agnostics fed up
Posted by: wawa on Jun 16, 2007 6:00 AM   
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PROGRESSIVE Christians are fed up too with the hypocricy of neo-con, neo-Christians such as John Hagee and politicians such as Bush who claim their favorite philosopher is Christ, then once elected they totally IGNORE the philosophy!



Did you know that 100 years BEFORE JC walked the earth, Rabbi Hillel, understood that the Hebrew understanding of Hokema; Holy Wisdom;

THE FEMININE DIVINITY,

Was the same as the Greek understanding of The Logos: The Word.


It was Saints Paul and John who first understood The Word was good and The Word was The Logos, The Word is The Christ.

It was John Lennon on Rubber Soul who told: "The Word is just The Way and The Word is Love"

ANYONE with an open mind and heart and a little imagination could comprehend that before Christ walked the earth a man,

He was already a She: Hokema, Holy Wisdom;

THE FEMININE DIVINITY!



Did you know that the canonical sources:
Matthew 12:31-32, Mark 3:28-29, and Luke 12:10

Are simpatico with gnostic Thomas saying 44:

'Jesus said: "Whoever blasphemes against the father will be forgiven, whoever blasphemes against the son will be forgiven, but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit [God within] will not be forgiven either on earth or in heaven."

What JC said four times, is it doesn't matter what any think of him, or even God the Father, but do NOT fail to see, that God is already within every man, woman and child.




Do you know about the Stages of The Soul?

Stages three's are seekers, doubters, skeptics, atheists, agnostics and frequently adults who grew up disenchanted with institutionalized religion. Their inherent intellectual curiosity leads them to seek their own way towards the Mystery of the Divine through philosophy and the study of multiple faith paths choosing and discarding according to their "inner light." Stage three souls often become activists for social justice and reform...-excerpted from "Mystics in the Marketplace" retitled "Fundamentalism is Holding up Evolution" available under "Early Editorials" on WAWA Banner





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Atheism is a belief system, too.
Posted by: HughScott on Jun 16, 2007 5:58 AM   
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Since the existence of God can’t be disproven, atheists must convince themselves as a matter of faith there is no God. By doing so, they willfully deny that human spiritually exists, which many people experience daily.

Right now, as I compose this comment, I am communicating with a spiritual aspect of myself. Whether it be a “soul” or simply another level of consciousness, I am most certainly hearing an inner voice helping me to write these words.

The same thing happens to me during other creative endeavors. For example, I’ve written four novels. The drafting of each manuscript was guided by an omnipotent narrator in my head that quite often generated scenarios, action and dialogue that completely surprised me. For the lack of a better term, I call that creative entity my “personal God.”

From reading about other writers and artists, my experience is not unique, which leads me to believe atheists are not, as a rule, creative people. Just the opposite, as shown by the hate-filled comments on this thread, atheists seem to enjoy thoughts of destruction, n