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Democratic Dinosaurs in D.C. Are Holding Us Back

By Arianna Huffington, Huffington Post. Posted June 13, 2007.


While the rest of the country is dealing with the here and now -- exemplified by Bush's puny approval ratings and a new poll showing rural voters turning against the GOP's handling of Iraq -- the Beltway's Democratic dinosaurs are acting like it's 2002.

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With each passing day, Washington, D.C. is turning into the Land That Time Forgot.

While the rest of the country is dealing with the here and now -- exemplified by Bush's puny approval ratings and this new poll showing rural voters turning against the GOP's handling of Iraq -- the Beltway's Democratic dinosaurs are acting like it's 2002. For them, Bush still has credibility on Iraq, Democrats still need to tread lightly in opposing the war for fear of alienating red state and swing voters, and Iraq is still a right vs left issue.

The latest proof that Tyrannosaurus Democrat is not an extinct species comes in the fossilized thinking of Stuart Rothenberg, editor of The Rothenberg Political Report. Writing in Roll Call, the Cro-Magnon pundit waxed ecstatic over Congressional Democrats' handling of the war funding issue, spinning the Dems' capitulation as having "played the issue like a Stradivarius," and proclaiming: "From a purely political point of view, Democrats had their cake and ate it too."

Rothenberg's piece is so confounding, it might have been written by David Chase. But the screen abruptly going to black would be preferable to a mindset that completely and totally (and even gleefully) buys into the Republican framing on the war -- namely, that pushing to bring the troops home is somehow not supporting the troops.

This sclerotic framing is wrong on every level: moral, strategic, and psychological.

You want a snapshot of immorality in action? Look no further than this bloodless analysis of the ultimate political question of life and death as nothing more than a question of tactics. "Why take a chance alienating swing voters," ask Rothenberg, "when the party already made its point by sending the president a deadline bill that he voted?" How about because a deadline bill is the right bill for the country -- and without it there will be hundreds more dead young Americans, and a less safe future for our children?

Instead, Rothenberg lauds the spineless positioning that led Democrats to defeat in 2000, 2002, and 2004: "The Democratic House and Senate leaders wisely played things safe by allowing a bill to pass that Bush could sign." Memo to Democrats interested in winning in 2008: from now until the next Election Day, do not use the words "wisely" and "play things safe" in the same sentence. Or paragraph. Or even the same speech.

Unfortunately, Rothenberg's timorous, realpolitik rationalization for giving the president another book of blank checks on Iraq has been adopted -- along with the Republicans' "support the troops" framing -- by many in Congress, including heretofore anti-war stalwarts Carl Levin, Jim Webb and Jack Murtha. All three voted for the war spending bill, and all offered some variation of Webb's claim, "I find myself unable to vote against a measure that is necessary to fund our troops who are now in harm's way."

But even putting morality aside and looking at things just from what Rothenberg calls "a purely political point of view," his analysis is deeply flawed. The truth is that while the punditocracy and the consulting class continue to search for electoral treasure using badly outdated red state/blue state maps, the country has changed. Radically. Especially when it comes to Iraq.

And especially in rural America -- which is no longer reliably Republican. In 2000, Bush beat Gore by 22 points in rural areas. In 2004, Bush beat Kerry by 19 points among rural voters. But in a new poll, 46 percent of likely rural voters said they preferred an unnamed Democratic candidate for president, while 43 favored a generic Republican. And half of those surveyed said they supported Congressional efforts to reduce troop levels in Iraq.


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The Democrats Are Worthless
Posted by: Tom Degan on Jun 13, 2007 4:13 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
They forgot why we sent them there to begin with. Seven months after the November election it's still business as usual in Washington DC. Count on it: unless these people start showing some courage, another third party uprising next year is all but inevitable. Trust me on this one, campers, we can't afford to have that happen again.

The base of the Democratic party (those are the people who vote in primaries) are as pissed off as they've ever been since the party nominated the pro war Hubert Humphrey over the decidedly anti-war Eugene McCarthy almost forty years ago. As a result, the shit hit the fan at the Chigago convention that awful summer. Word to the wise: The elected Democratic representitives should be wary of and fear their base! They're fed up with the bullshit you people have been spouting for months. If you know what's good for you, you'll get with the program.

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
"The Rant" by Tom Degan

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» RE: The Democrats Are Worthless Posted by: MartianBachelor
» Wish you were right, Tom. Posted by: justaguy
» RE: The Democrats Are Worthless Posted by: Glennk1949
gathaiga
Posted by: gathaiga on Jun 13, 2007 4:51 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I live in rural Oklahoma and have not noticed much more than a minute decrease in support for the smirking chimp in the White House. The average citizen who actually votes is very poorly informed and, if they bother to watch or read, are anesthetized by the electronic tranquilizer and the sports page.

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» Same Here in South Carolina Posted by: Aimleft
Meanwhile, over in Swampland . . .
Posted by: Mauimom on Jun 13, 2007 5:34 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
For another example of Dinosaur Democrats, take a trip over to Time magazine's acknowledgment that Dead Tree Media is indeed dead, its blog "Swampland." There some dude purporting to be Edwards's "liason to rural America" wrote a nasty, insulting column about "Metropolitan Opera liberals -- i.e., those he identified as non-Southerners.

Hello, if you're going to come into someone's house & crap on their rug, don't be surprised when the beat you with sticks!! The [justifiable] outrage is palpable, and more than one has said "that's it for me with Edwards."

Of course this "blogger" was the guest of Joe Klein, so we can all imagine dirty tricks behind this adventure.

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» Oh, Mudcat Posted by: Joshua Holland
Pelosi Pledge
Posted by: freethink7 on Jun 13, 2007 6:02 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Nancy Pelosi promises......

promises to toe the line for Bu$h Cheney Inc. + never, ever impeach (“all options for impeachment are off the table!”)

promises to never hold Bu$h Cheney Inc. responsible for illegal Iraq war and furthermore despicable, horrifying, and insidious war crimes and genocide/mass murder - (“no timetable for Iraq withdrawal!”)

promises to NEVER allow a *comprehensive independent* investigation into 9/11, and more importantly, investigations into U.S. complicity/culpability in 9/11

promises to uphold and not rescind the extremely totalitarian Military Commissions Act + Insurrection Act - nor reinstate Habeas Corpus

promises not to reverse NSA’s illegal spying on the American people (even if it is unconstitutional and a direct assault on our civil liberties/civil freedoms)

promises to allow corporations + big biz (esp. Big Oil, Big Banking + Big Pharma) to continue running their agenda in this country and not interfere with their lobbying influence on Sin-ators and Con-gress.

promises not to repeal the ineffectual and otherwise superficial-fake-phony No Child Left Behind Act (after all, NCLB is a deliberate set up to fail teachers in the U.S. public school system)

promises to continue allowing globalization and outsourcing of U.S. middle class jobs (esp. engineering, science, technology and manufacturing), so that middle class + economy is further eroded in this country – ensuring U.S. becomes a feudal system

promises to not change the fact that the U.S. is now officially Fascist-Nazi-Totalitarian

promises that the U.S. news media will continue to be a state-run-Goebbel’s-style propaganda tool cranking out convenient and manipulative propaganda, mind control, misinformation, ambiguity, obfuscation + outright lies to further the neocon agenda

promises that the Democratic Party will continue being the un-empowered apologist party + lapdogs for Rethugs (oh, and the dems in D.C. will simultaneously continue to maintain the illusion of a two-party system in the U.S. even though in reality there is only one party) + furthermore promises to continue allowing Israel/AIPAC to exert their coercive influence + control with respect to Congress/Sinate/White House. In fact, they are running U.S. and this practice will continue

promises to maintain the illegal/unethical wars in Iraq, Afghanistan et al (soon Iran) so that unscrupulous wealthy contractors continue benefiting from war profiteering at the expense of a million innocent people who are victims of mass murder. Also, will continue to ensure that U.S. + Israel geopolitically reconfigure the Middle East, continue taking possession of (STEALING) their assets - oil/land/gold/water, and commit despicable acts of genocide and ethnic cleansing against innocent Arab indigenous people - further allowing Israel to exert hegemony + financial control over the entire Middle East

Most importantly, Nancy promises NOT to rock the boat! Nancy PROMISES TO MAINTAIN THE STATUS QUO!

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» RE: Pelosi Pledge - Yeah! Posted by: Tom Degan
» RE: Pelosi Pledge Posted by: opeluboy
» Off with her head! Posted by: johngary66
Monkey Wrench
Posted by: shangrilalad on Jun 13, 2007 6:15 AM   
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Not all Democrats are cowards and conniving pole sitters, Dennis Kucinich is an exception. He looks like the only hope we have to elect a president with sense, convictions and courage. The Republican owned monopoly media will try to bury Dennis Kucinich before the primaries, and definitely before the general elections because of his “dangerous” views, which they won’t even address for fear of calling attention to them. They fear what the see as a “Monkey Wrench,” in Dennis Kucinich.

Sure, we can and probably will vote for the candidate the Monopoly Media have selected for us, but wouldn’t it be fun to throw a “Monkey Wrench” into the works.

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» RE: Monkey Wrench Posted by: deltadancer
» RE: Monkey Wrench Posted by: gary_7vn
» RE: Monkey Wrench Posted by: opeluboy
Nothing will ever change
Posted by: scott balogh on Jun 13, 2007 7:34 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
As long as monolithic business has a stranglehold on the government, it will be business as usual. Greedy, power mad people have turned controling the world into an art form. Face it, we in the US are not so bad off, and we will stay that way because that is how the rulers want us. We have enough to keep us from cutting off their heads. The supplemental spending bill that passed, by the way, means borrowing the money from China or Soc. Sec. funds. If we fall into a period of financial crises like the Great Depression, maybe we will take to the streets and hang people like Cheney, Bush the Saudi royalty etc. Then we can affect real change. The US is a sorry lot indeed, fat folks driving fat cars, eating junk, talking trash, believing in a fat god, hoping our polititions are going to do the right thing for the good of the people. We are going down, Arianna.

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Bye NancyP
Posted by: Vicente on Jun 13, 2007 8:18 AM   
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I suppose this means we have to credit Nancy Pelosi for being every bit as effective as a man. Hopefully, Dems will wise up and replace her. If anyone should have known that a "go for the throat" mentality was needed with the GOP, it should have been her based on her lineage.

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» Dems? Posted by: MartianBachelor
» RE: Bye NancyP Posted by: lessbread
No Democracy in America
Posted by: gary_7vn on Jun 13, 2007 9:16 AM   
Current rating: 2    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
As someone who is not an American, I find all the hand wringing about Dems and Repubs sad. From the outside looking in it is clear that no matter who is putatively "in power" in America is meaningless, nothing changes for the proles and the growing underclass.

Politics in your country is all theatre, both parties take you to war, both parties do nothing to provide you health care, et cetera. What you have is a clever version of good cop, bad cop, the dems say they want health care, but then the bad repubs "block it" even when the dems control the house and the senate. The republicans start a war and kill millions and the dems promise to end it but they don't. What a surprise. In Iraq, this latest in your endless series of invasions, incursions, coups, and police actions, the dems complain, yet they voted for it! We, meaning the rest of the world knew it was all lies about "wmd" and so did the democrats, but their facesless masters in the secret government and Tel Aviv told them otherwise, so there you are.

Now you have an election (ha ha an "election", what a joke) coming and you can "vote" for Hilary or Madman McCain (bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb iran) either way you will have war, no health care and Paris Hilton to distract you from the fact that you live on Airstrip One.

There are no dems, no repubs, just power, money and your "need" to take more than your fair share of the world's resources. Kucinich? Obama? They let them live, just so you poor dupes can have hope. The masses must always have hope, that's why you gave your slaves bibles. In fact they still give the slaves bibles, the slaves being you of course. If Kucinch is real and there is slightest hope of him winning, they will Wellstone him, or find kiddie porn on his computer.

Is there hope? Yeah sure. Aux barricades!

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» RE: No Democracy in America Posted by: oregoncharles
Naive
Posted by: oregoncharles on Jun 13, 2007 9:25 AM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I never thought I'd call Arianna naive, but there it is. She herself makes the case that the Democrats are boldly, courageously defying their base. Republicans hardly ever have that kind of nerve - unless they're following their real base, the rich and the corporations. The Dems take big contributions, too, often from the very same people and corporations.

Does anyone seriously think they're "scared" of the discredited Rove spin machine, or a President down around 30% and falling? Or "swing" voters who oppose the war by huge margins? That isn't even serious.

We gained one great thing from the 2006 elections: the Democratic Party's real agenda is now right out there in the open. Actions speak much louder than words. In this case, it's just one word: imperialism. The tip off is their deal with Bushies over "free trade" - a deal whose terms are still secret, even from Democratic congressmembers! What does that tell you? That was quickly followed by the funding supplemental, passed under a tricky voting rule that allowed them to vote no on the funding itself while it passed with Republican votes. That was blatant deception. Every Dem who voted for the RULE deserves your "no" vote next year.

The Democratic Party has supported imperialism for literally as long as I can remember: how many of you remember who plunged us into the Vietnam War? It was the most liberal president we've had, Lyndon Johnson.

The Dems have another reason to keep Bush in office and the war going until next year: they are destroying the Republican Party. Mark my words: the Republicans won't even be a factor next year. They're already split and deeply dissatisfied with their potential candidates. And Hagel and Bloomberg will probably run, with a Billion $ of bloomy's own money. Meanwhile, the Dems will re-nominate Bill Clinton (oops - no, that's Hillary now), apparently out of sheer nostalgia, but also because they SUPPORT THE WAR, just as they said all along.

There is only one progressive, peace party in this country: the Greens. They are just as viable as you make them - and as the others are disgusting.

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» RE: Kennedy and Viet Nam Posted by: scott balogh
» RE: Naive Posted by: CatDad
We want the Dems to play baseball at the football game
Posted by: Wexler on Jun 13, 2007 10:29 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
The dems are hyper-sensitized to being politically out-maneuvered by the flag-waving warmongers on the other side of the field. And they should be... in recent elections they have sucked at playing "the game". The GOP gets more coverage for their candidates, more money, has a constant blathering media propaganda campaign, and has made a franchise out of defining and ridiculing the left. They resonate with the simplistic, sound-bite consuming pseudo-patriots who don't give a flip about constitutional law and think of their President as a King and their country as an empire.

To me this seems like the inevitable return of the pendulum after the Viet Nam protesters, the hippies, the druggies, and others pushed it so far to the left that it almost broke off its bearing. Now it's back at the right, and anyone on the right who remembers those days are loathe to return to them. (In case you're wondering, I was in all the aforementioned groups pushing it to the left).

So we have inadvertantly created the backlash that resists any progressive political action today... and the Dems are afraid that if they try to bring baseball tactics to this football game they are going to get their asses beaten to shreds by the well-oiled GOPER propaganda apparatus.

The GOP has us (the left) exactly where they want us. The progressives are threatening to bolt the party, the incumbents are afraid to rock the boat, and now we're even starting to split alon urban/rural lines because of some remarks by a guy in the Edwards campaign.

Take a deep breath, everybody. There needs to be a consensus on goals, first.... short term, medium, and long term. I agree with the frustration over the Iraq funding bill. But that bill is not the only avenue to end the war. We can take to the streets again. We can deluge our legislators with letters. We can boycott sponsors of the liars on Faux and Clear Channel. We can stand up and tell the truth... that is the weapon the Bushies fear the most.

This got somewhat rambly, for which I apologize. But let's not beat our reps up for their timidity, let's help them to grow a spine.

Wexler

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Ever wonder
Posted by: willymack on Jun 13, 2007 11:08 AM   
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Why rove, cheney, and the other neoturds were giggling on the eve of the 2006 "election? The bush juggernaut keeps rolling merrily along as if there were NO ELECTION AT ALL. Any questions?

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Dems/Republicans in Washington are Imperialists
Posted by: lito on Jun 13, 2007 1:39 PM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Both parties - at least in their leadership - are imperialist. They just happen to disagree on the details and have different pressures from their constituents. I think this is what is missing in the Huffington piece: many Democratic politicians are caving not because they don't have the guts but because they don't personally believe in the cause. Of course they are going to act tough to play to their base, but ultimately they are conflicted by their own desires (and the desires of their big donors) to support American imperialism around the globe. Thus they create tepid withdrawal plans and then don't really fight for them.

These Democrats aren't "dinosaurs" in a political party that otherwise could challenge the status quo, they are hawks - and the same ones that have always dominated both parties in Washington (ahem Vietnam). The anti-war movement needs to proclaim its independence from the Democratic party, maybe even support 3rd party candidates, but certainly not desperately hope for a change in a political party that is fundamentally imperialist.

shoplifters unite

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Democrats are losers.
Posted by: HughScott on Jun 13, 2007 2:01 PM   
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Ironically, Dems are just like President Bush. They either don’t learn from the lessons taught by past events or the idiots simply don’t care. Unless the Democratic Party wakes up pretty damn soon, Republicans will keep the White House in 2009.

Bush may be ignorant about history but he’s not stupid when it comes to politics. By next summer, he will have redeployed our troops in Iraq to areas where they’ll take the least casualties, with “converted” insurgents hunting down Al Qaeda fighters made attractive by bounties on their heads.

Domestically, Dub-ya will promoting the war on terror like crazy, scaring the crap out of unthinking Americans any way he can. As for Hillary, the presumed 2008 Democratic candidate, she can expect the dirtiest GOP campaign ever against her.

As for me, a registered Republican who supported John Kerry in 2004 but can’t stand the thought of Senator Clinton becoming our 44th president, my write-in vote for Ron Paul will be wasted next year. But then, that’s the price of following principles as opposed to sheepherders.

Finally, if you’re a Republican and want to help defeat Slick Willie’s flyweight understudy, visit www.STOP-Hillary.com.

For Democrats, I will be launching an anti-Ghouliani website soon.

God Bless America.

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Give up on the Democrats
Posted by: Illiteratilumen on Jun 13, 2007 2:10 PM   
Current rating: 1    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
They have no vision for the future of America. Most of them are basically neo-cons in liberal clothing anyway.

The government is a monster. It has to be stopped if we are going to have any real future. Forget the wedge issues that the politicians love to get you all fired up about. They aren't that important in the scheme of things. The American people will not be safe until the government is afraid of US.

Register as a Republican and vote Ron Paul! I've been a registered Independent since 1998 and now I'm switching to Republican to vote in the primaries.

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1 for 100 million
Posted by: P. Hermes on Jun 13, 2007 4:42 PM   
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There are 300 million people living in the US. There are 3 people who are ruining the lives of Americans and of the 6 billion others, worldwide:

George W. Bush, Richard Cheney, Karl Rove.

They and their acolytes must go for everyone's sake - and NOW. The party's over - the antidote: IMPEACHMENT! NOW!

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it is time!
Posted by: greggwyck on Jun 16, 2007 10:35 PM   
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lets start over and remove all these douche bags out of office. we could start a new. all new people in charge. get rid of all the office holders right down to the local level. new judges and new sherrifs and new highway patrol. well give them less than leathel weaponds and an put peole in charge that have compassion for the real people in the world. fuck it just kill'em all, god i love metallica.

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