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Why Americans Keep Getting Fatter

By Scott Kahan, The Baltimore Sun. Posted June 21, 2007.


The USDA grossly underfunds the healthiest foods while pouring billions into a farm bill that supports many of the foods its dietary recommendations warn against.

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A long-running contradiction in U.S. farm policy is fattening the waistlines of Americans and the profits of agribusiness at the same time. For the 30 years that the U.S. Department of Agriculture has been issuing dietary guidelines, there has been a stark inconsistency between the federal government's advice and its food funding.

True, the USDA has been doing more, over time, to promote health through dietary guidelines, food pyramids and other nutrition programs. And yet more than $20 billion yearly -- more than one-fifth its budget -- is sunk into a farm bill that supports many of the foods its recommendations warn against. At the same time, the department virtually ignores incentives to produce, promote and consume some of the healthiest foods: fruits and vegetables.

This contradiction may play a role in today's obesity epidemic and is in part driven by a counterintuitive farm policy, highlighted by the farm bill, which is up for renewal this year in Congress. This legislation began during the Depression to protect farmers against environmental disasters and plummeting crop prices but has evolved into a massive program of handouts, largely benefiting agribusinesses. Worse, it promotes vast overproduction of crops that are the building blocks of calorie-dense, nutrient-poor, processed junk foods. It has become a "food bill."

For a half-century, the farm bill served farmers and the public well by regulating supply and stabilizing food prices. In 1973, it was overhauled to significantly increase crop production. According to the USDA Economic Research Service, the U.S. food supply has since ballooned by 500 calories per person per day, and per capita food consumption has increased by more than 200 calories per day -- the equivalent of more than 20 pounds of fat per year.

This mammoth oversupply would be less egregious if it were spread equally among the food groups. Instead, most funding supports just a few crops, and those lay the foundation of the standard American diet: high in sugars and empty-calorie, refined grains; high in fats; low in whole grains and fiber; and low in fruits and vegetables.

Take corn, the most highly subsidized crop, which received $9.4 billion in 2005 -- nearly as much as all other crops combined. Corn production has more than doubled since the 1970s, and all this artificially cheapened corn is unloaded on the public, largely in the form of tasty but empty-calorie junk foods. Refined corn is the chief source of carbohydrates and calories in most processed foods, particularly snack foods. High-fructose corn syrup is the most widely used caloric sweetener in the United States. And corn meal is widely used as cheap animal feed to fatten factory-raised livestock.

Another example is soybeans, the fourth-most-subsidized crop. Although soy protein is a healthful meat substitute, soybeans are more commonly used in junk foods. Soybean oil accounts for 75 percent of the fat in processed foods and is commonly hydrogenated to create trans fats, which improve shelf life but are known to cause cardiovascular disease.

In contrast, healthful foods are grossly underfunded. USDA guidelines advise that fruits and vegetables make up at least one-third of daily intake, but just 5 percent of its food funding supports the fruit and vegetable industries. There is virtually no funding for public education and advertising encouraging fruit and vegetable consumption. At its peak, the "Five-a-day" campaign budget was just $3 million annually -- compared with the $11 billion spent yearly in the United States for fast food and junk food advertising. McDonald's spent $500 million just promoting its "We Love To See You Smile" campaign.

This is one reason Americans don't eat fruits and vegetables. Although some surveys suggest we eat about four servings daily, this number is greatly exaggerated because French fries and potato chips are counted the same as spinach, carrots or broccoli. In fact, 25 percent of vegetables consumed in the United States are fried potatoes, making the daily consumption of healthful fruits and vegetables closer to two servings -- and possibly lower in children and inner-city populations.

Farm policy is an ideal avenue to address the obesity epidemic at its roots.

As Congress considers this year's farm bill, it should rework the legislation so it meets the needs of today's food consumers, not agribusiness. The new farm bill should significantly shift funding to improve the availability, affordability and promotion of fruits, vegetables and other healthful foods.

In particular, it should include targeted investments to fruit and vegetable growers to increase the availability of fresh produce, support for the new "Fruits & Veggies -- More Matters" initiative, expansion of the Fresh Fruit and Vegetable Pilot Program to all 50 states to promote the eating of fruits and vegetables in schools, creation of incentives for fresh fruit and vegetable purchases in the Food Stamp program, and support for organic farming.

These steps could signal that our government is ready to lead the fight against obesity and diet-related chronic disease by nurturing the health-conscious lifestyle it advocates by its dietary guidelines.

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Scott Kahan is a physician and postdoctoral fellow at the Johns Hopkins University. He has published 13 books on medicine and nutrition. His e-mail is scott.kahan@iebn.org. Roni Neff, research director for the Johns Hopkins Center for a Livable Future, contributed to this article.

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You had me...
Posted by: Mop Cheese on Jun 21, 2007 1:53 AM   
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...as far as "get rid of those subsidies". But I don't think the government should play a role in how thick my waistline is. It's bad enough that they steal from me: they don't need to take the role of an annoying family member as well.

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» RE: You had me... Posted by: kelt65
» Why government should play a role. Posted by: KeepsonTickn
» Great post, Rune Posted by: hagwind
» RE: Rune... Posted by: Mop Cheese
» RE: Also... Posted by: Mop Cheese
» brilliant post Rune Posted by: off-the-radar 2
» RE:Norsky, hagwing, CatDad Posted by: Mop Cheese
» We've never had a free market.... Posted by: Illiteratilumen
Ever check the nutritional values of welfare food?
Posted by: ateo on Jun 21, 2007 1:58 AM   
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Government:
cheese (not low fat)
peanut butter (not natural)
pork (pork)

No wonder poor people are fat.

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» PB & J Posted by: slydad
4
Posted by: kepstein7777 on Jun 21, 2007 3:00 AM   
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So if the government were to provide better subsidies for fruits and vegetables, that would increase supply, lower the cost to the consumer, and the consumer would eat better...or something like that?

I'm not so sure. Our addiction to junk is more than just a cost issue. A lot of the crap we eat at McD, the frozen dinners, etc. costs more than things that are good for you. I think it's a cultural thing. People eat junk because they want to.

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» RE: 4 Posted by: dmdem
Phrase that pays: Diet AND exercise
Posted by: omnivore on Jun 21, 2007 3:24 AM   
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I'm astonished that so many articles showing how bad American waistlines and BMI's are also fail to show the importance of exercise in maintaining health.
Is it any coincidence that as we've practically automated all forms of labour, that we've become a sedentary society, since the first and second industrial revolution, gettng fatter and less nutritionally intelligent? It wasn't that long ago when Americans actually worked. Now we rely on what I jokingly call sorcery: automation, legislation, induction of foreigners into our labour pool, investment, those who do not labour physically like accountants lawyers programmers salespersons, etc. I often think that society at large has absolutely no use for them, that there is no intrinsic value to their industries. We all give value to them because of our own laziness or lack of ime/energy/commitment/ or technical expertise.
In indegenous tribal societies, consider the physiques and resistance to/absence of disease of, say, Papua New Guinians, 'Negritos' of the Philippines, or even the pygmies of Central Africa. Also NA's on this continent before they were forced to eat Spam and GM corn, giving them all sorts of heart, liver, blood, kidney, immune and nervous system diseases. Friggin' diesel. Those people are fit, because they're always on the move. They eat foods native and seasonal to their environment. They deserve to survive.
We don't. We need shows to show how tough it is out there, even though most American kids don't even know where food comes from. Many American parents don't know either. To automate everything, to be sedentary and complacent in our thinking and critical of the world from our armchair, all the while mindlessly consuming, allowing large-scale agribusiness to keep giving us what we childishly desire: more sugar, fat, salt, GMO's, emptycarbs, nutritionless 'dead' junk food. Stupid, truly. This is what pollutes the mind through the body. Indeed, the body is the conscious mind manifested.
I'm a cycle courier, a personal trainer, and part-time personal assistant. I'm not saying everyone should have three jobs. Or even a physical one. Or even be a vegan. But I do think that regualr and frequent calorie expenditure in lieu of constantly using the body to achieve the goals of survival and financial success are a huge part to maintaining health and fitness, which are not the same thing, although improving one may drastically help the other. It's a start to help heal the body-mind-spirit. We must approach health and fitness in an integrated fashion in harmony with the environment. This, I believe, will help people to literally think better. So much of Amercan life is filled with negative thoughts and action. The only way to combat that is to improve yourself.
"Lead from the front." - Scott Sonnon, founder of Rmaxinternational,
"Physician, heal thyself." - guess who...

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» You are so on the money Posted by: Bobsays
» RE: You are so on the money Posted by: sterlingdave54
It's NOT rocket science
Posted by: wawa on Jun 21, 2007 4:01 AM   
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Excess calories=FAT

Couch potatoitis=FAT

Food is fuel for the body and if you want the best body you use your brain and choose to eat nutrient dense food-NATURAL NOT PROCESSED!
NOT FAST FOOD!


Exercise is necessary on a daily basis and should be PLAY; find things you enjoy and do something aerobic every day.

Lift weights 2-3 times a week for muscles require more calories than FAT to maintain.


It takes 6 weeks to make a habit; so even if you 'hate' to exercise give it 6 weeks and the benefits you reap in that short time, you just may find addictive, most esp. if you have an addictive personality.

Healthy habits are more satisfying than overindulging in negative ones.

For those over 50; try Pilates on a reformer if you can afford the classes, it is money well spent.

Pilates is great for toning and stretching and the mental focus required is 'icing on the cake'

Spend your life doing for others and your appetite will shrink; thinking of the least and doing all you can for them, will keep you sleek.



eileen fleming, retired registered nurse, full time justice and peace activist
http://www.wearewideawake.org/

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fat is flavor
Posted by: Fat Man at the Buffet Line on Jun 21, 2007 4:19 AM   
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people get fat for a variety of reasons.. over indulgence,lack of exercise, preexisting health conditions etc... Personally I cannot sit still for long enough to get morbidly obese....I cannot understand how one could let themselves get to that point.... Sure I have a few extra pounds to spare, but since my life revolves around being a gourmet and a gourmand as well as a hyper active spaz, I stay in fairly decent balance. The key is to keep active. Not only does it keep you feeling physically good, It completely sharpens your psychological health. People used to work physicallly demanding jobs, now they get all doughy by rotting away infront of a computer screen. The good news is you can change that.....

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» Go, Gravitas! Posted by: hagwind
» RE: ver hear of the term quisling???? Posted by: Fat Man at the Buffet Line
» WRONG! Fat blocks flavor... Posted by: jparsons
» RE: WRONG! Fat blocks flavor... Posted by: Fat Man at the Buffet Line
» RE: WRONG! Fat blocks flavor... Posted by: Fat Man at the Buffet Line
NO WONDER POOR PEOPLE ARE FAT......WTF?
Posted by: thetruth07 on Jun 21, 2007 4:28 AM   
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There are fat Americans across the board.....
I'm living here in Japan and there is a huge difference in how they eat and exercise over here.
The biggest sumo wrestler is more fit than the average overweight or obese American!
(And come to think of it possibly the most fit American).
Come on, let's stop kidding ourselves, Americans love to eat but don't like to exercise....period!!!! We eat far more calories than we should and don't exercise enough to burn off those calories. We don't walk, run, ride bicycles or do anytbing remotely physical outdoors anymore.
Here in Japan it's all about fish and veggies and on top of that they walk, run, and ride bicycles. You see old and young Japanese people walking, running and riding bicycles. They always shop at the market where the food is always very fresh. And desserts don't have a ton of sugar in them!!
And let's not forget portion control, they don't eat large portions like Americans do.
Americans have to learn that nothing beats fresh veggies, meat and fish. Learn to read labels 'cause let's face it packaged food is made with chemicals for a long shelf life, not for the benefit of keeping you healthy!
So, until we go back to cooking at home, eating smaller portions, eating more veggies, laying off the sugar, being more active and stop believeing there's a magic pill, we'd have a healthier America!!
But I guess it's easier said than done, 'cause there goes another Big Mac meal sold!!!

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» I concur Posted by: skoog5600
» RE: I concur Posted by: redceres
» RE: I concur Posted by: PopRox80
Obesity + a ghastly health care system
Posted by: skoog5600 on Jun 21, 2007 4:43 AM   
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This is not a good combination in the long run. As overweight Americans age there will be all kinds of health problems. If they are so lucky to have a decent health plan it could stave off the inevitable for a while longer with triple bypass surgery and a stint. But if not, then you will see all kinds of people dropping like flies.

As for the overweight parents of children, I suspect they are passing on their habits to them. So there you have it another generation of overweight Americans.

Perhaps it is not the terrorists that will bring down the US. I am reminded of the scene from Monty Python's movie, I believe it is called "The Life of Brian" where the morbidly obese man is in a restaurant finishing a massive meal - he is bloated to the point of exploding, all the while asking for a bucket so he can throw up in it and can continue to eat. Along comes John Cleese as the waiter offering the man a "wafer thin mint". The fat man replies, I'm full, but the waiter is persistent and finally the Fat man obliges and eats the wafer thin mint. John Cleese dives over the bar to take cover just as the man explodes with his entrails splattering all over the restaurant.

In all seriousness I will finish with this - I no longer live in the US, but when I do visit and get off the plane, I am very taken back by all the overweight and dare I say obese people - young and old.

I concur with some of the comments, it takes some discipline, exercise and dare I say common sense.

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» Monty Python ref Posted by: BlueTigress
Fast Foods & Healthy Food
Posted by: kmart35 on Jun 21, 2007 5:15 AM   
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I've always applauded the meager efforts of fast food restaurants to add healthy foods to their menu. Last year Wendy added a fruit platter with yogurt which my daughter and I loved! We went to 5 or 6 stores in our town and they never would have them. Why don't you have chili instead? Then they had an article in our paper later saying they discontinued them b/c no one was buying them. How can you buy them when they don't have them to sell?!? I think if they actually had them available more people would have tried them/bought them but many probably get tired of ordering an item that's never available!

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F & V for sound teeth, too
Posted by: nyscof on Jun 21, 2007 5:40 AM   
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These are the same reasons Americans are getting more cavities - poor diet. Dentists would have you believe it's lack of fluoride even though fluoride is not a nutrient nor required for healthy teeth. Adding fluoride to drinking water, fluoridation, gets them off the hook for allowing a dental health crisis to occur on their watch, especially among low-income Americans who often fill their children's hungry bellies with all they can afford to do it with - cheap chips and soda. 80% of dentists refuse to treat Medicaid patients. Growing numbers of middle class Americans are losing their dental insurance. And the working poor can't afford dentistry.

If fruits and vegetables were subsidized and made so cheap that all Americans would learn to love them (with the help of delicious Rachel Ray recipes) and lower-income people would have no choice but to eat healthy, tooth decay rates would decline along with many other preventable diseases.

Of course, everyone wouldn't comply, but I bet there would be a measurable improvement in American health. However, simply removing the fluoride chemicals from the entire U.S. water supplies would also have a measurable positive effect on overall health.


Fluoridation 101
http://www.orgsites.com/ny/nyscof

http://www.fluorideaction.net/health

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Politically Correct Nutrition
Posted by: snowhound on Jun 21, 2007 5:52 AM   
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All the information people receive about what's healthy and whats not is fueld by special interests. Food education that the media and government promote, like everything else, is totally based on a buisness model whos main goal is to increase consumption and profits. Remeber how much healthier margarine was than butter? Most people don't know that saturated fats can help you lose weight while unsaturated fats like vegetable oil can promote weight gain. The reason the government pushes vegetable oil instaead of the healthy tropical oils is because we don't grow coconuts in this country, we grow corn. It has nothing to do with what's healthy and what's not. Soy for example is not a healthy food. 90% of it is genetically modified and soy naturally contains high levels of estrogenic compunds. It actually causes deficiencies of Vitamin D which has been shown to greatly reduce cancer risks. It disrupts the endocrine system which regulates hormones. Plastics are another toxin that disrupts this system. The point is that there can be so many reasons for the obesity epidemic and it all revolves around the corporate machine that puts profits over the health of the people. The science has always been there, it's just that nobody has an interest in the science because the science never has a place in corporate America.

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Our vegetables are not as nutritious
Posted by: Lizmv on Jun 21, 2007 6:01 AM   
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Several years ago, the FDA issued a report that our vegetables are not a nutritious as 50 years ago (the beginning of the "Green Revolution"). Since that report, I have wondered if we eat more because our bodies are telling us we need more of the vital nutrients and aren't getting them.

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» RE: Our vegetables are not as nutritious Posted by: albrechtkrausse
» RE: Our vegetables are not as nutritious Posted by: AngryWhiteFemale
About this "obesity epidemic" . . .
Posted by: hagwind on Jun 21, 2007 5:56 AM   
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Why does it seem to get so much more attention than the "stress epidemic"? Excess stress over extended periods of time causes all sorts of health problems, from the minor and inconvenient to the major and life-threatening. Not to mention -- food intake is often related to stress: not for nothing are certain edibles referred to as "comfort foods." For sure exercise is a great way to reduce stress. A long-ago boss of mine is alive today mainly because when I worked that job, I biked to and from work most days of the week, 10 miles each way. This used up the excess adrenaline that otherwise probably would have made me go postal and strangle the bastard.

So why does the "obesity epidemic" get so much attention? Some people get off the plane in the U.S. and immediately notice how fat everyone is. When I go to the big city, I immediately notice how stressed and withdrawn and driven many people seem to be. Much yammering about the "obesity epidemic" is done by people who spend a lot of time in cities: Maybe fat is more obvious to them than stress? Maybe identifying stress as a major problem would require them to take a discomfiting look at their own unhealthy assumptions and behaviors, instead of just going tsk-tsk-tsk at other people?

One reason I'm suspicious of this obsession with "obesity" is that it looks so much like the fatphobia that has been around a lot longer. Fatphobia is not only, or even primarily, about health; if it were, why would so many people -- particularly women -- smoke cigarettes to damp down their appetite for food? (Believe me, most of us knew in our hearts -- or in our lungs -- that smoking wasn't good for us long before the surgeon general's warning appeared on cigarette packs and tobacco company ads disappeared from TV.)

A big appeal of religion for some people is that it gives them the right -- nay, the obligation -- to pass judgment on certain behaviors and to exert great effort to convert (or silence) the people who practice those behaviors. This drive to judge and convert (or silence) is not peculiar to religion, though it tends to be exacerbated when it's underwritten by some omnipotent authority. At a certain point, rants about fat and the "obesity epidemic" start to sound a lot like rants about Sodom and Gomorrah.

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blame
Posted by: momlbrown on Jun 21, 2007 8:17 AM   
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As much as I would like to blame the government, I feel my overweight problem is the result of my personal choices and behavior. I agree we can improve on the government programs, but let's be honest about who is ultimately responsible for our weight.

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» RE: WTF??? Posted by: WyrdSister
What is the problem? Capitalism is the answer---
Posted by: WitchyNy on Jun 21, 2007 8:23 AM   
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Fresh fruits and vegetables don't last long.

A hamburger, potato chips and coke- last forever.

The goal here is not health-the goal is making more money!

A profit based system LEADS to unhealthy fat people.

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» So what are you suggesting? Posted by: Illiteratilumen
Exploitive Title
Posted by: Gravitas on Jun 21, 2007 8:26 AM   
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I resent both the title and the picture beside it. Yet another attempt by the left to exploit the alleged "obesity" epidemic for its own purposes. I have no qualm with the point about government hypocrisy or food subsidies. But he doesn't need to further stereotype fat people to do it.

First of all, the whole calories in vs. out theory belongs in the flat earth society. Simple "overeating" is not now, never has been, never will be the main cause of obesity. We need to start looking at growth hormones they put in meat and milk. Environmental endocrine disrupters may also play a role. Americans work more than most industrialized countries, and lack of sleep contributes to both obesity and diabetes. Dieting the way it is done by ALL commercial weight loss schemes changes one's body to make it better at storing fat. The stigma and stress contributes to binge eating disorders. And of course, genetics. There have been some fat people throughout history because the more diverse a species, the better its chance of survival. We forget fat was crucial to the survival of the human species. Yet we completely ignore all these factors. The stigma of obesity is actually functional for us as a society, which is the bottom line reason we refuse to look at the real causes that make people fat. I am going to provide some links to what I have mentioned under the comment to this article section.

BTW - I think it is the tackiest thing in the world to use a headless fat body like in that photo. Do you have any idea how dehumanizing that it???? How it contributes to seeing fat people as objects rather than people? How it causes people to disassociate from their own bodies? Don't EVER think you are any different from mainstream, corporate owned media constantly showing headless fat bodies from behind to grab headlines and send their viewers straight to Jenny Craig. I can't put into words the lack of respect I have for you at this moment. Not that it affects my own self-image. I am mentioning it for anyone else who is fat out there and is offended, but would never say anything. Or worse, simply internalize it without thinking. To them I say what matters most is how YOU view your body. I personally love my own 220lb body and I still get flirted with even though I am in my late 40s and dress conservatively. I am not absolving anyone's responsiblity NOT to stigmatize a fellow human being. I am simply stating that what is coming from the inside out is ultimately the most powerful force in shaping perception at the personal level. To help undo some of the emotional damage from the constant mainstream battering that people come to a more "progressive" site to try and avoid.

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more calories do not have to mean more fat
Posted by: kiel on Jun 21, 2007 8:31 AM   
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"...per capita food consumption has increased by more than 200 calories per day -- the equivalent of more than 20 pounds of fat per year."

This is misleading. These calories could be burned in exercise which would build muscle. The impression that calories = fat is simply false, and harmful to anyone who wants to understand the way his/her body works.

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Corn - now being fed to cars!
Posted by: counterpoint on Jun 21, 2007 8:46 AM   
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This is a little off topic but I'd like to remind people of the Ethanol Scam (google for more info, or read Edwin Black's outstanding book "Internal Combustion: How Corporations and Governments Addicted the World to Oil and Derailed the Alternatives". It's very simple: producing ethanol from corn consumes more fossil energy than it provides as a fuel (unlike ethanol produced in Brazil from sugarcane). And yet it is subsidized with huge amounts. Because our fuel demand is insatiable this new demand for corn has affected food corn prices. I remember reading that the recent uproar in Mexico over doubled tortilla prices (or so) had a connection there.

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FarmAid
Posted by: davcrock on Jun 21, 2007 9:28 AM   
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I'm tired of tax dollars being paid to agribusiness so that I have the privledge of paying more for my food. If you want to help the poor, make food cheaper by ending price supports.

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» RE: FarmAid Posted by: Jarmadi
Red beans and rice didn't miss her
Posted by: apeshow on Jun 21, 2007 9:55 AM   
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My anaconda don't want none unless you got buns hon.

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In defense...
Posted by: iheartearth on Jun 21, 2007 9:54 AM   
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I wanted to respond to the individual(s) who noted that the picture of the overweight individual and title of the article seems offensive. I agree. However, as a Maryland resident, I read this Op Ed when it was originally published in the Baltimore Sun a few weeks ago and there was no such picture (and, as an Op Ed, the article was untitled). As such, it seems that the editor of AlterNet, rather than the author of the article (Dr. Kahan), added in that information after the fact (and possibly without Dr. Kahan's permission).

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» Good point! Thanks! Posted by: Gravitas
Something to look forward to?
Posted by: maddy on Jun 21, 2007 10:16 AM   
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I have this mean-spirited optimism welling inside of me when I read articles about the obesity epidemic.

Between mass extinctions (see previous Alternet pieces on birds, honey bees, and the death of the oceans), global warming disasters, and impending warfare over access to oil, fresh water, and a dwindling food supply...

won't the obesity problem resolve itself--by necessity--in the next two generations or so?

"Yeah, well we may have killed off all the birds, bees, and fish, but at least we'll finally get a handle on the obesity epidemic!"

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Name something harder than losing weight.
Posted by: HughScott on Jun 21, 2007 10:50 AM   
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I'm a former nicotine addict who quite smoking 37 years ago and have been fighting obesity ever since. I don't know which will happen first -- dying from natural causes or reaching my ideal weight.

On second thought, there is no way I can lose all the extra pounds. To hell with people who think I'm fat. What counts is feeling fine and being healthy with a fully-functioning mind.

Aside from hip arthritus and treatable hypertension, I'm doing pretty good for a guy my age (72) despite walking with a cane. The best part is, being retired, I don't have to take shit from anyone. Except my wife, of course.

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peacefull1
Posted by: joshuawelch on Jun 21, 2007 11:08 AM   
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Not one penny of taxpayer dollars should go to the practice of raising animals for food. This practice is the most resource intensive, environmentally destructive cruel means to produce food. Not to mention that meat and dairy are for the most part extremely unhealthy.
"Nothing will benefit human health and increase chances for survival on Earth as much as the evolution of a vegetarian diet." Albert Einstein

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» I grew up in farm country, Indiana... Posted by: Illiteratilumen
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» RE: peacefull1 Posted by: AhavahbatSarah
US Food Culture Run by Corporations
Posted by: lonpine on Jun 21, 2007 11:14 AM   
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As a nation of immigrants, as one that changes constantly, where people live a continent away from their families, and where lots of people either eat alone, or their own meals (I know a family where every night 4 meals are made: pizza for the boy, hotdog for the girl, a tuna sandwich for mom, steak for dad), we have no real cuisine.

A real cuisine over time puts us in equilibrium with our local foods and activities. We have none. In the vaccum comes marketing and fad diets: on the one hand taxpayer subsidized agribusiness and fastfood companes feeding us fat, and the other hand the latest health food craze.

In France and Japan, e.g., people don't diet- and they're THIN.

Yet culture isn't the only determinant. When I was visiting Vancouver recently and headed back into Seattle, I could tell I was back in the US just by looking at the wastelines of folks getting on/off the ferry.

If you get a chance, have a look at Hungry Planet

NPR story

Peter Menzel, author's website

You'll be amazed at how many fruits and veggies people of the "third world" eat; and how much American and British families spend on candy and drinks- like $70/wk!

Michael Pollan makes great points about food culture and "nutritionism"- read at least the last page for his rules of thumb.

High Fructose Corn Syrup = the nictotine of the 21st c.

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Two moms, a camera, and school lunches
Posted by: lonpine on Jun 21, 2007 11:30 AM   
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Check this out

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MSG (monosodium glutamate) - Culprit in Weight Gain
Posted by: freethink7 on Jun 21, 2007 12:30 PM   
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MSG added to our foods, especially processed foods, are a contributing factor in weight gain and obesity. MSG is added in most soups, salad dressings, and processed meats; in crackers, chips, dips, breads, canned tuna fish, most frozen entrees, ice cream, frozen yogurt, fast food, the list goes on and on.

MSG blocks receptors in the brain that transmit this important message: ‘you are full – don’t eat anymore’, therefore some people are eating horrendous amounts of foods that they neither want or need.

Here again, we see food corporations/manufacturers operating at the lowest levels of moral reasoning and engaging in this philosophy: profit supercedes health of customers.

Why doesn’t the public demand that food manufacturers remove MSG from food, or are they even aware of this, or do they even care?

google/schmoogle: msg (monosodium glutamate) dangers in food

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No mention of marijuana?
Posted by: leafsong1 on Jun 21, 2007 1:55 PM   
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About one in six Americans uses marijuana, the most powerful apetite stimulant known to man, on a regular basis. Isn't it possible that that has an effect? Not only does it make you hungry, it makes just about any sedentary activity seem interesting for hours, and poor people use it more than rich people. Why are the poor fat? Because the only entertainment they can regularly afford is a joint in front of the TV with chips and soda.

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» Jack Webb would love you... Posted by: morticia
» dooodddd.... Posted by: lonpine
Exercise and diet
Posted by: pre-emptive impeachment on Jun 21, 2007 3:49 PM   
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It really is as simple as diet and exercise (anaerobic and aerobic). One cannot just do one or two of the above and expect fantastic results. Finding the balance depends on one's body type and goals. And one must keep in mind that losing weight doesn't necessarily mean good. Starving oneself may cause you to lose weight, but your fat percentage will go up.

How many obese people do you know go to the gym to lift weights for 30-60 minutes; run, 'elliptisize', or do some other cardio activity for 20+ minutes, and eat mostly good healthy food with little bad stuff?! I don't know one who strictly does, let alone minimally does all of the above.

One of my old roomates was significantly overweight. He started going to the gym with me and lost 20 pounds but also gained muscle. Again weight loss isn't the only metric.

Someone else I know use to drink 6-8 cans of pop a day (soda for you non midwestern people) and he quit and lost noticeable weight. He tried drinking it again after about two weeks and found it to be way too sweet.

I started to gain fat weight because I quit going to the gym, ate take out a lot, and drank more beer. Now I go to the gym 6 days a week, run 4 days a week, I cook (something I enjoy quite a bit) my own food from scratch, and don't drink as much beer. The fat is starting to disappear (may weight has actually gone up). I primarily drink water and skim milk (all the hormones, pus and other nastiness bothers me, but I can't readily afford organic milk at $6+/gallon especially considering I drink about a gallon every 24 hours).

I've had one thing of fast food in the past 1-1.5 years and that consisted of an arby's roast beef sandwich. I walk whenever possible-to class, to the corner store for milk, to pretty much anywhere practical (i.e. doesn't require heavy carrying or something of the sort)1-2 miles. I take the stairs regardless of how many flights, even when office hours at school are on the seventh floor.

In the end one could say my point is that it is one's lifestyle that is going to dictate how healthy he/she is. Sure there is a lot of bad shit on the shelves at the grocery store, but it is up to that person to minimize buying it. One can sit in front of the tv/computer/whatever all day, or one can do something active. If one doesn't balance diet, anaerobic exercise, and aerobic exercise, one can not expect lasting, acceptable results.

One last thing, if you are overweight or obese and happy with your body than good. If not, there will be little sympathy from me as it is in your hands and your hands only.

Also, there are plenty of books out there on non-fad diet and exercise, that's where I started.

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Common sense + a little effort
Posted by: spanky on Jun 21, 2007 5:22 PM   
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Stick to basics. Ignore dumb fads. Keep it simple. Indulge once in a while. Consider the consequences to you, the planet, and humanity everytime you eat. Push yourself physically, it feels good. Get 8hrs sleep. Get off your ass.

I'm 42, an amateur bike racer and in the best shape of my life. I have no ailments, rarely get sick, weigh 145 lbs at 5'9", and take no medication. I don't follow all of what's below but most of it. No secrets. Just good hard exercise and clean eating.

My mother died this year from diabetes + hyper tension + obesity at the age of 74. She was miserable. The longer you wait to cleanup your act the harder it is.

Nutrition:
1) fresh fruits & vegetables, organic preferably
2) whole grains (cereal, bread, rice)
3) little or no meat
4) wild, high quality seafood, in moderation
5) lots of water
6) wine in moderation
7) limit sugar intake
8) no soft drinks - poison
9) no heavily processed food - poison
10) no fast food (ie McD) - poison
11) read food labels and understand the ingredients - ingredients you can't ID should be a red flag, likewise if the list is a mile long

Exercise:
1) cardio - 4x or 5x per week, for 30+ minutes, do some exercise which you enjoy and which raises your HR to the point where you would have difficulty carrying on a conversation
2) stretching - perform a set of basic stretches after each cardio workout, holding each stretch for 30 seconds
3) strength - a couple times per week do a couple sets of crunches, pushups, pullups, lunges - each work lots of muscle groups at once and can be done in minutes
4) get a foam roller and use it to work over soft tissue problem areas - back, hips, IT band, calves, etc

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It's not magic
Posted by: opeluboy on Jun 21, 2007 5:37 PM   
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The problem is, people really don't like the formula for staying trim: eating less and exercising. There is no other way to be fit.

I'm 54, can still wear my 30" waist jeans from twenty years ago, and I'm over 6' tall. I do not work out like a triathlete, just 3 times a week (floor work, road work, free weights)

I also avoid the cheap carbs, drink vodka instead of beer and worry about little else. My blood pressure is great, my cholesterol normal, my energy good and my concentration excellent. I've never felt better.

I also take a good regimen of vitamins daily, eat small meals with healthy snacks and get plenty of sleep and almost enough sex.

Easy.

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» RE: It's not magic Posted by: opeluboy
» RE: It's not magic Posted by: logansafi
STRESS AND OBESITY
Posted by: drricklippin on Jun 21, 2007 7:15 PM   
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The missing answer to Dr Scott Kahan's question about why Americans keep getting fatter is related to increasing stress in our consumeristic and time crunched US culture. Job loss and fear of job loss don't help.

When people are stressed food is an effective "analgesic" and credible research has correlated increased stress hormone levels especially to abdomenal obesity which is is more dangerous than generalized obesity.

Dr. Rick Lippin
Southampton, Pa
http://medicalcrises.blogspot.com

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» RE: STRESS AND OBESITY-PS Posted by: drricklippin
» RE: STRESS AND OBESITY Posted by: logansafi
» RE: STRESS AND OBESITY AND SHIFTWORK Posted by: drricklippin
Elijah
Posted by: Elijah on Jun 21, 2007 7:38 PM   
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To the thick americans who are thick in the head too.....yes the trans fats are poisons along with the high fructose corn syrup.....fake fats and fake sugars....but also a huge part is the chemicals they put in the food to addict you to the taste.....look at all the ingrediants before eating anything.....never eat anything that has 'natural flavors or natural spices'..these are only more chemicals....tell me what the natural spice is ..garlic? oregano or what?.....bin laden is a small problem compared to the bankrupcy that this obesity will cause americans very soon....there will not be enough of anything to save them.....this is just one of the Karmas to come from the evil america is perpetuating.....wake up and change america...god help us.... they look like a freak show!!

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Sacrificing an entire generation for profit's sake.
Posted by: Oppland on Jun 21, 2007 10:54 PM   
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Big agriculture and big pharma work together hand in hand. The junk food peddlers inculcate young Americans from an early age. These children gradually become unhealthy. These same children become young adults, very unhealthy young adults. These prematurely unhealthy young adults turn into middle-aged adults with serious chronic health problems which, at one time were only associated with a much older population.

More sick people with chronic type diseases equates to big profits for big pharma. Health education in this country does not exist. The so-called "Food Pyramid" is a grotesque joke.

Here's just one example of what children are being feed these days; you decide, is this what are children should be eating?:


Oscar Mayer Lunchables - Maxed Out Chicken Strips (6 oz.)

Calories 480 Calories from Fat 130
% Daily Value*
Total Fat 15 g 23%
Saturated Fat 3.5g 18%
Cholesterol 30mg 10%
Sodium 890mg 37%
Total Carbohydrate 73g 24%
Dietary Fiber 1 g 4%
Sugars 32g
Protein 14g
Vitamin A 0%
Vitamin C 20%
Calcium 6%
Iron 15%

INGREDIENTS: Water :, Water Natural Spring, Chicken Strips Breaded : [ Chicken Strips, Water, Potassium Lactate, Corn Starch Modified, Contains less than 2% of Salt, Potassium Chloride, Dextrose, Sodium Phosphate, Sodium Diacetate, Lemon(s) Juice Solids, Flavor, Batter, Water, Wheat Flour Bleached, Food Starch Modified, Corn Flour Yellow, Dextrose, Spice, Garlic Powder, Paprika Extractives, Monosodium Glutamate, Caramel Color, Breading, Wheat Flour, Corn Flour Yellow, Food Starch Modified, Egg(s) Whites, Wheat Gluten, Dextrose, Spice, Whey from Milk, Salt, Paprika, Onion(s) Powder, Natural Flavor(s), Seasoning, Wheat Flour Bleached Enriched {Wheat Flour Bleached,Barley Malted Flour,Niacin,Iron Reduced,Thiamine Mononitrate,Riboflavin,Folic Acid}, Egg(s) Whites, Food Starch Modified, Salt, Garlic Powder, Onion(s) Powder, Soybean(s) Oil Partially Hydrogenated], Barbecue Sauce :, Corn Syrup High Fructose, Water, Tomato(es) Paste, Vinegar Distilled, Worcestershire Sauce [ Vinegar Distilled, Molasses, Corn Syrup, Water, Salt, Caramel Color, Garlic Powder, Sugar, Spice, Tamarind, Natural Flavor(s), Sulfiting Agents], Food Starch Modified, Salt, Potassium Chloride, Mustard Flour, Soybean(s) Oil, Corn Syrup Solids, Smoke Flavor Natural, Xanthan Gum, Caramel Color, Sodium Benzoate Preservative, Garlic Powder, Sugar, Spice, Soy Sauce Dried [ Wheat Fermented (and), Soybean(s) Fermented, Salt, Maltodextrin, Caramel Color], Vegetable Oil Partially Hydrogenated [ Cottonseed Oil Partially Hydrogenated, Soybean(s) Oil Partially Hydrogenated], Tamarind, Natural Flavor(s), Cheddar Baked Snack Crackers :, Flour Enriched [ Wheat Flour, Niacin, Iron Reduced, Thiamine Mononitrate {Vitamin B1}, Riboflavin {Vitamin B2}, Folic Acid], Soybean(s) Oil, Cheese Cheddar [ Milk Cultured, Salt (and), Enzymes], Cottonseed Oil Partially Hydrogenated, Salt, Yeast Extract Autolyzed, Leavening [ Baking Soda, Yeast], Monosodium Glutamate [ Flavor Enhancer], Annatto Extract [ Vegetable Color], Paprika, Sodium Caseinate, Lactic Acid, Acetic Acid, Spice, Barley Malt Flour, Fruit Roll Naturally & Artificially Flavored :, Fruit Juice From Concentrate [ Grape White, Strawberry], Sugar, Flour [ Wheat (Contains)], Corn Syrup, Corn Syrup High Fructose, Soybean(s) Oil Partially Hydrogenated, Natural and Artificial Flavor(s), Malic Acid, Citric Acid, Glycerine, Water, Cellulose Gum, Ascorbic Acid, Red 40, Yellow 5 and, Blue 1, Tropical Punch Artificial Flavor Soft Drink Mix :, Sugar, Fructose, Citric Acid, Contains less than 2% of Natural and Artificial Flavor(s), Ascorbic Acid [ Vitamin C], Vitamin E Acetate, Calcium Phosphate, Acesulfame Potassium and, Sucralose [ Sweeteners], Color(s) Artificial, Red 40, Blue 1, BHA To Preserve Freshness

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I am amazed...
Posted by: jparsons on Jun 22, 2007 1:03 AM   
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So many posts ignoring the point of the article and talking about personal choice instead.

"Gee, who cares if our tax dollars are going to help major industry to make even more money off making the country unhealthy? After all, it's all those lazy greedy ignorant OTHER people's choice to eat these foods...."

What are you thinking? The government is fornicating with you and you are bending over and asking for more....

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» RE: I am amazed... Posted by: AhavahbatSarah
If you dont like it, dont eat it.
Posted by: out there on Jun 22, 2007 5:38 AM   
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Ok, everyone knows that americans are fat, and getting fatter. So what gives, it's your choice to sit behind a computer 20 hours a day and eat nothing but chips and candy. So what that corn syrup and soy oils are in just about everything. Its your job as a consumer to look into these products before you buy them, and feed them to yourself and your children. The farm industry has nothing to do with how fat your making yourselves.
1, The so called overbloated corn crop, where do you think that goes. American grains don't stay in america, their called commodities and are sent all over the world. Believe it or not, its keeps the US from getting into deeper debt, well it used too before bush.
2, Overbloated, how do you figure, the price of corn hasn't changed in 20 years, its always been at or around 2.50. You add inflation in there and do some math and see where that gets you. Producing more corn from the same amount of land is something to be proud of, getting even less for it is not. So now that the price of corn and soybeans have climbed to a 1990's inflation market, that makes it right? NO.

Do some real research before you go and patronize the farmers of america. You might as well look into the facts that other countries are shipping their cheap grains here contaminated and full of diseases because its cheaper. So what is that going to do for the american, poison your animals and eventually you?

As for vegetable and fruit farmers, they dont function with the government like grains farmers. It also costs 5x more to maintain an acre of fruits or vegetable than grain, with a payout of nearly the same--weather permitting. So when you see apples for 1.99 or cherries for 2.49, or tomatoes for 1.00 thats pretty cheap.

If you want to blame being fat on someone, blame it on yourself for not exercising, and not reading labels, and the companies for producing things that taste good, called snacks which are not meant to be eaten for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

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transfats
Posted by: lindalee on Jun 22, 2007 7:10 AM   
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I discovered transfats a long, long time ago and did my best to get them out of my life. Saying that transfats are "yummy" tells me that people are just not paying attention. The good fats taste amazing and just need to be used more. I also noticed that high fructose corn syrup is in just about everthing. So I started looking for cane sugar. It tastes just as good as corn syrup.
This article is right on the money - we put too much importance on corn as a crop. It feels too much like this government is trying to control what I eat and it's not good for me. No thanks.

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This is literally sickening
Posted by: Cruella on Jun 22, 2007 11:38 AM   
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I took a peek at the situation in the UK. We have a so-called Healthy Start program which is supposed to help younger and low income mums and kids eat better. It leaves a lot to be desired.

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Current farm subsidies are taking a huge toll on the environment
Posted by: satyagirl on Jun 22, 2007 12:55 PM   
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There is another huge effect that these farm subsidies have on the world -- they are giving giant welfare checks to the farming sectors that are consuming the most energy. Corn is the most energy intensive crop, therefore if global warming or resource depletion is a concern for anyone, we should re-think why corn should be receiving our tax dollars.

The meat and dairy industries (either directly or indirectly via feed crop subsidies) receive the majority of these subsidies -- these are industries that are creating dead-zones in our rivers and lakes, causing E-coli outbreaks in our spinach and contributing enormously to deforestation and greenhouse gases.

If Americans are waking up to our role in the environment's destruction, it only makes sense that we support food sectors that are in line with that environmental concern. If any farm subsidies are to be given, organic fruit and vegetable farmers should be getting the biggest cut.

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High Fructose Corn Syrup
Posted by: DCBeltway on Jun 22, 2007 2:30 PM   
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One of the main culprits is high fructose corn syrup. Its is in most of the food we eat. Look in your frigerator right now and check out the ingrediants labels on packages. I believe this stuff is absolute poison.

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fiber, and diabetes
Posted by: lonpine on Jun 22, 2007 2:36 PM   
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Don't forget about fiber, which food companies, in order to have more control over their inventory, have removed from our food. Consider you can keep frozen vats of OJ much more easily than fresh oranges.

Fiber is good for mediating the uptake of sugar into the body.

Here's a pre-diabetes story for you (more prevalent among African-Americans and Asian-Americans-- just can't take the white man's high sugar diet these days...):

My fasting glucose was around 115 mg/dL, which these days is considered pre-diabetic. I put away the juicer (which basically removes fiber and leaves you with high glucose/fructose liquid), stopped buying and drinking any other type of juice, never drank sodas, and now eat only expensive desserts- gone is the cookie or slice of cake at lunch- it has to be a very high end dessert at a fancy dinner to make it worth my while. I've replaced my white rice with brown rice and I usu. get 3 veggie portions with my meat w/no starch for lunch. And I've been swimming 3-5x/wk,

In 2 mo., I was down to 83 mg/dL (normal is 60-99, diabetic is >125, pre-diabetic is 100-124, which, if you keep for 5 yrs, will lead to Type II diabetes). And I've always been slender (male, 5'9"/142 lb), so I have no extra weight to lose.

My thoughts: stay active- at least every other day get the heartrate up for at least 20 min, eat whole foods, use meat generally to garnish and flavor vegetables, not the other way around; and not stuff that's premade in a box, eat with people, eat a traditional cuisine- which means NOT gorging.

I wonder if there'll be a lawsuit against ADM for pushing HFC (high fructose corn) syrup.

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Fat comes from a poor corporate supply of healthy consumer optiions
Posted by: logansafi on Jun 23, 2007 7:12 PM   
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Yes face it, our corporate supply of eating options is of poor quality and high prices. For about $2 you can buy enough food to make a meal for one at fast food places. A good price but bad food for your health. You can get a double cheeseburger and hot and crispy chicken at McDs for example.

You cannot get a healthy meal of some sort of greens with several other vegetables at the same price. It's just not offered.

There might be a thousand and one hamburger joints, yet not one chain that offers falafel, say, which is a vegetarian and healthy meal.

You might want a tostada with beans and some cabbage sprinkled on top with tomato, but you will get fat in the beans at Taco Hell. There will be no nopalitos offered. You cannot get a potato, nopalito, and tomato burrito, say. You will get fatty chili and artificial cheese whip offered instead. Forget reasonably priced fish altogether beyond fried garbage. That's the general rule.

If you want chicken that is not fried and sold at a reasonable price, you may well be out of luck in the slurbs of America. And you will not get it offered with a healthy salsa and other nutritious vegetables. It will come more often than not, with fried onion rings, fried okra, fried cheese, fried potatoes, and fried etc.

You want fruit at the grocery store? It might well cost 4-5 times more per pound than ground beef, and even up to 10 times as much per pound as chicken! And even then, the fruit might well have been picked green and not be in good shape. Fresh vegetables are the same story.

Our corporate world of food monopolies has destroyed much of our healthy and reasonably price food options. Lack of exercise ( they made us car dependent, too) plus bad food equals poor health and fat. Monopolies don't allow consumers many healthy options.

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Corn Syrup and Hydrogenated Oil is Poison.
Posted by: williameon on Jun 25, 2007 4:27 AM   
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Pure and simple,
Does the trick!
Read the label.
Short and sugar sweet,
Is better.
Unrefined, unadulterated, unpreserved,
Whole food.
Look and you shall receive.
Everything else is poison.
Over refined, processed garbage.
Containing
No nutrients or fiber.
Gargbage in,
Garbage out.
All fat people have a starved skinny person locked inside.
Searching for nutrician.
Coincidence?
Or
Circumstance?
There is no such thing.
They want everybody to be unhealthy, sick and afraid!
Easier to control that way.
Sucking on their Sicko thumb.
What is,
Is.
We have one system.
The Cor-“Pirate” System
That pillages and plunders
The World
They have
Destroyed the World
Before!
Will we?
Let it happen,
Again?

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US TO FAT TO 'RULE'!
Posted by: chiquita1 on Jun 27, 2007 5:18 PM   
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We spend more money on fresh 'garbage food' than we od on fresh fruits and veggies. Hey, have the crimes in suburbia and the cities don't get solved because the cops are too fat to chased down the crooks. All too many cops are just to FAT to get in and out of the squad cars quickly!!

With all the jobs outsourcing and low-paying jobs, too many Americans don't make enough to eat health meals on a regular basis. (Cheney does...but he's become a fat toad!)
In 2005, the avg. Fortune 1000 CEO made 267 times the avg. worker. Today, that CEO makes 411 times! NO WONDER AMERICANS HAVE BECOME 'ROUND MOUNDS'! We're poor!

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