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CEOs vs. Slaves
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According to a just-reported study by Carola Frydman of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Raven E. Saks at the Federal Reserve, 30-40 years ago, the CEO's of major companies earned 80 percent more, on average, than the third-highest-paid executives. By the early part of the 21st century, however, the gap CEO and the third in command had ballooned up to 260 percent.
Now take a look at what's happening at the very bottom of the economic spectrum, where you might have pictured low-wage workers trudging between food banks or mendicants dwelling in cardboard boxes. It turns out, though, that the bottom is a lot lower than that.
On May 16, a millionaire couple in a woodsy Long Island suburb was charged with keeping two Indonesian domestics as slaves for five years, during which the women were paid $100 a month, fed very little, forced to sleep on mats on the floor, and subjected to beatings, cigarette burns and other torments.
This is hardly an isolated case (see my book, Global Woman: Nannies, Maids and Sex Workers in the New Economy, co-edited with Arlie Hochschild.) If the new "top" involves pay in the tens or hundreds of millions, a private jet and a few acres of Nantucket, the new bottom is slavery.
Some of America's slaves are captive domestics, like the Indonesian women in Long Island. Others are factory workers, and at least 10,000 are sex slaves lured from their home country to American brothels by promises of respectable jobs. CEOs and slaves: these are the extreme ends of American class polarization.
But a parallel kind of splitting is going in many of the professions. Top-ranked college professors, for example, enjoy salaries of several hundred thousand a year, often augmented by consulting fees and earnings from their patents or biotech companies. At the other end of the professoriate, you have adjunct teachers toiling away for about $5000 a semester or less, with no benefits or chance of tenure. There was a story a few years ago about an adjunct who commuted to his classes from a homeless shelter in Manhattan, and adjuncts who moonlight as waitresses or cleaning ladies are legion.
Similarly, the legal profession, which is topped by law firm partners billing hundred of dollars an hour, now has a new proletariat of temp lawyers working for $19-25 an hour in sweatshop conditions. On sites like http://temporaryattorney.blogspot.com/, temp lawyers report working 12 hours a day, six days a week, in crowded basements with inadequate sanitary facilities. According to an article in American Lawyer, a legal temp at a major New York firm reports being "corralled in a windowless basement room littered with dead cockroaches," where six out of seven exits were blocked.
Contemplating the violent and increasing polarization of American society, one cannot help but think of "dark energy," the mysterious force that is propelling the galaxies apart from each other one at a speed far greater than can be accounted for by the energy of the original big bang. Cosmic bodies seem to be repelling each other, much as a CEO must look down at his CFO, COO, etc. and think, "They're getting too close. I've got to make more, more, more!"
The difference is that the galaxies don't need each other, and are free to go their separate ways nonchalantly. But the CEO presumably depends on his fellow executives, just as the star professor relies on adjuncts to do his or her teaching and the law firm partner is enriched by the sweated labor of legal temps. For all we know, some of those CEOs go home to sip their single malts in mahogany walled dens that have been cleaned by domestic slaves.
Why is it so hard for the people at the top to graciously acknowledge their dependency on the labor of others? We need some sort of gravitational force to counter the explosive distancing brought about by greed -- before our economy imitates the universe and blows itself to smithereens.
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Posted by: edith on May 31, 2007 1:09 AM
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The authoritarian nature of the larger US corporations is evident by the distorted pay scales skewed to benefit several individuals at the top of companies that employ thousands. The man at the top is responsible for all of the success, and all of the failure. It's an irony at how simplistic a view the market and market makers hold of what it takes for a corporation to succeed. Just change the guy at the top and all will be well.
If the purpose of the company is to appreciate (inflate) its stock, then the quality of its products and the fair compensation of all its employees are afterthoughts.
After all, what are the lower scale managers and employees going to do? Strike? Ha Ha. Not in America.
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» You left someone out...
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» Right, because we all know that incr. the supply of labor will raise its price (NT)
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» Please ignore the fact that a larger supply of workers makes organization harder (NT)
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» CEOs get paid to take the fall for the real hogs - the fund managers (Buffet, etc.) - take Enron...
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Posted by: richholland on May 31, 2007 2:07 AM
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If you are a communists you have to follow the Party number 1, if you love the capitalisme you should accept that some are very rich and many poor. Because that is the result of capitalisme as proved by the filosopher KARL MARX in 1848(Das Kapital)
In Europe we have the Socialkapitalisme what means that every worker has one month holiday, medical insurance etc.
Once our Prime Minister (a billionaire) said that the comparison between minimum net income 1; to a top salary should not exceed 5.
So if the minimum in holland is about$ 1000, a maximum should be netto about 5000. per month.
In reality we are going the American way in future Europa..But as you mentioned before; Left doesnot mean always progressif and Right doesnot allways mean conservatif.
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Posted by: DZ on May 31, 2007 3:43 AM
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» Thank you again, Republican Answer Man!
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» RE: Thank you again, Republican Answer Man! The answer is unionization.
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» Sociopaths start at the bottom and rise quickly to the top
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Posted by: unity1 on May 31, 2007 4:04 AM
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The obsenity of such amounts of money contrast with another event existing simultaneously in time - the deaths of millions of people in the middle east - extreme wealth and extreme destruction - nothing exists in a vacum
how come it keeps going on year after year -
we know by now that corporations have the personality of a psychopath - what we don't really want to admit is how enslaved we really are
how shallow our freedoms
the world is facing multipile crisis, looming - and yet it does nothing much - having NORMALISED all its warning signs - it fails to comprehend the challenges facing it
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Posted by: frosty86 on May 31, 2007 4:57 AM
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http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/04/30/865/
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» you're setting up a straw person.
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» anti-capitalism review
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Posted by: PJT on May 31, 2007 5:08 AM
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Posted by: JohnnyM on May 31, 2007 5:58 AM
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We have executives egos getting paid way too much, Enron-like scandals, growing poverty, firms on wall street owning companies by-the-numbers only(w/o a care for the employees lives), etc.
Raising monies without the free market would be difficult, and to make it a law to have to make a profit for your shareholders is ridiculous (it is their excuse for many atrocities). And then to say 'hey, my plan made this company $100Billion so I deserve at least $100M, while fair and reasonable sounding, only makes sense if everyone who executed the plan also has at least an 8-figure salary.
Who in the company executes the strategy? The middle management. It's as if society believes that formulating a strategy is 100 times more important than executing it, which of course is wrong! In fact, the complete opposite might be true.
It is pure ego and greed that justifies these salaries in their minds, if they do at all.
This is our failure. Democracy is what makes the west the best, not the free-market.
So Mr/Mrs CEO, don't tell me life isn't fair or it's human nature or it's a dog-eat-dog world, because these things are only true in your mind, and there's enough food, water, money for everyone. It is you who doesn't like to share. It is you who is the hoarder. Poverty should have been beaten 20 years ago or more, but it is you who have disallowed this to happen.
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Posted by: malcolmartin on May 31, 2007 6:01 AM
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But even these corporate welfare measures only delay the inevitable. There is only so much technology can boost production or wages can be depressed until a slave system must be created to increase profits. Even at that, the system will then stare into the eyes of its fatal contradiction. Slaves cannot buy the products they produce.
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Posted by: White middleclass male on May 31, 2007 6:04 AM
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My advice to you get ahead any way possible. Lie, cheat , steal, manipulate, fuck the boss and film it if that is what it takes. But please stop your god damn bitching.
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» "Lie, cheat , steal, manipulate..."
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» It's called "narcissism" and locates you at the emotional level of maybe 12 or 13 at most.
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» Hmmm.
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» One wonders why you are even here in the first place.
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» So you really think overpaid CEOs equate with a child being sullen about Billy's bike?
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Posted by: paschn on May 31, 2007 6:24 AM
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This is obvious when you look at the millions of middle/lower class idiots that support the Republican "gang". The core of which are, (for the most part), the spawn of the maggots that worked us 12 to 14 hours a day 7 days a week, made fortunes working along side our "enemies", ( Prescot Bush, Coca Cola,[ ever hear of Fanta ], and other "patriotic U.S. corporations), they used their "pocket politicians then as now to manipulate us all and rape the environment and we basically thank 'em for it. Hell, look at the billions we give the terrorist nation of Israel, as a thankyou for murdering our service men,( USS Liberty), spying on us and possibly false flagging us into wars we never should have fought.
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Posted by: NumberSix on May 31, 2007 8:26 AM
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The problem, as I always saw it, is that too many economists don't study load kinetics, structure, weight and balance. One asks, "Can we really interpret an economic system using similar laws as we do mechanical systems?" I say, yes, and history agrees with such a methodology.
Hence, the so-called "free market" is much akin to building a pyramid: We must keep in mind weight distribution. The base of the structure must be wide enough, and strong enough to maintain the structuring above. Each layer below must then contain it's own weight, and the weight of the above. Layer by layer, until we get to the base, and the base had better be able to support mass in millions of tons PSI.
Can we say this is true of economic systems? By far.
To be wealthy, there must be a supportive financial system below, with each layer generating a kind of financial "mass containment" for each. Each layer then supports all the layers above and so on.
Ah! So, with both, what happens if the supporting structures cannot contain the load mass from above? With a building, we then haul out chaos math, and apply the avalanche kinetic. At a point, the whole sucker collapses.
Worse, suppose we keep adding more and more to the upper portions, but without adding more superstructure below? Again, avalanche kicks in: Bang, boom and look out below!
And?
What I am seeing is a middle class fading away, becoming more and more poor. This robs the economic superstructure of the ability to maintain the mass of those who are wealthy. Eventually, a collapse goes off, and everyone on top rides chaotically to the dirt below.
Sadly, there aren't precise engineering methods to predict when an economic structure implodes, but, we can, yes, from history, see that when this happens, the end is eventual, and no amount of goddamned whining.....can stop it.
The neo-cons, and the cultists of greed say this cannot happen. I offer world history as argument: Every time in our past, when the wealthy become too wealthy, and the supporing economic structure under them gives away....the results are total economic catastrophe.
It would, then, make sense to reshuffle some things, build a very strong economic system to repair the middle class, to broaden the economic base so to speak, but that does not appear to be going to happen.
The end result? A worldwide depression the likes mankind has not seen. Revolt will take place in more places than our little armies can contain. It will happen.
And no, it ain't communism, socialism or whatever. It's just pure, simple engineering: We cannot build a system with infinite wealth without also building a structure that can maintain it. Otherwise? Don't call me when the avalanche hits.
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Posted by: AGeach on May 31, 2007 9:11 AM
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The only thing it IS in the best interest of, is themselves, while rapidly removing the middle class.
We are and have been on a fast track to a 2 class society. No longer will there be a middle class, only the wealthy and the slaves to keep them that way.
The design of the new immigration bill is set to insure this. The illegals will gain legal status, and continue to work for the depressed wages they are responsible for, and we are required to accept if we want to work. Our taxes will continue to remain high, and there will be an additional drain due to the increased ABUSE of social services that the now LEGAL, illegals will be free to fully avail themselves of.
While they're taxing away our income, they are giving increased tax breaks to the Capitalist corporations and the wealthy. We will be paying out more to keep the rich in their lifestyle, while THEY erode ours.
There is NO justification for the insane incomes top executives earn, NOR the additional benefits, stock options etc. that they are paid. Especially when the same companies giving those executive "perks" are laying off the very people that have made it possible for the jerk at the top to be there. How can an executive who has been with a company only 4 mos. possibly have earned the right to a 7 figure income? He has not even had the opportunity to prove himself.
Then there are the executives who lie, steal, cheat, and generally screw up a company, and they are given a tremendous exit package, upon leaving. Never mind that they are responsible for millions in loss, they are given mulit-million packages.
Capitalism is rapidly eroding the working class in this country, and if the tax payers don't vote out those responsible, as well as begin to hold companies and executives accountable, then it will happen faster than they can blink their eyes.
Their billing me for killing me!!!
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Posted by: Sojourner on May 31, 2007 9:23 AM
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The justification for royalty was that it fought the wars and kept the peace. History shows that they preferred to war with each other.
Economists have been unable to agree on a designation for our time. I suggest "Return to Feudalism."
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Posted by: sugamretniw on May 31, 2007 9:24 AM
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Posted by: Fat Man at the Buffet Line on May 31, 2007 10:43 AM
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» where you are wrong, and why you are not progressive...
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Posted by: yellow on May 31, 2007 10:47 AM
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Posted by: hole11 on May 31, 2007 11:28 AM
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Posted by: kateweski on May 31, 2007 11:48 AM
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Posted by: nb1102 on May 31, 2007 12:21 PM
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As read by Kristen Osman from Upland, California: “Wal-Mart can be about so much more than making money. It can be about leading the industry in fair labor practices. It can be about leading the field in environmentally sensitive causes. To many that I know, Wal-Mart has become a symbol of all that disturbs them about big business. You CAN change their minds and get them back into your stores by showing the kind of compassion for the world around you that wins the hearts and minds of your customers.”
It's time for a change.
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Posted by: DaBear on May 31, 2007 12:56 PM
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WE ARE SPARTICUS! (only this time mebbe we win)
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Posted by: Iconoclast421 on May 31, 2007 1:43 PM
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Yet the economy has stalled during the last quarter.
Please folks, my name is Rush Limbaugh and I humbly ask you to ignore that big elephant in the middle of the room.
DOW up 50% so far this millenium. Real wages down by same amount, and more.
What is really happening is that the top 10% are just barely keeping up. The rest of us are sinking. Few are truly getting rich. I wonder how many of them can do it without downing pills all day long...
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Posted by: Blue Heron on May 31, 2007 2:40 PM
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"America is immune to all appeals. Her people do not understand the language of the poet. They do not wish to recognize suffering- it is too embarrassing. They do not greet Beauty with open arms - her presence is disturbing to heartless automatons. Their fear of violence drives them to commit insane cruelties. They have no reverence for form or image: they are bent on destroying whatever does not conform to their pattern, which is chaos. They are not even concerned with their own disintegration, because they are already putrescent. A vast congeries of rotting sepulchres, America holds for yet a little while, awaiting the opportune moment to blow itself to smithereens."
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Posted by: freethink7 on May 31, 2007 3:30 PM
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For a list of "Most Wanted" Corporate Human Rights Violators
Go to this website:
CorpHumanRightsViolator
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Posted by: Aussie Kim on May 31, 2007 4:49 PM
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I wonder when you wil have your own Russian Revolution? It's only a matter of time, I think...
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Posted by: gracefounddog on May 31, 2007 10:12 PM
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Official site for this unconstitutional ‘partnership’ is here: http://www.spp.gov/
The Canadian Green Party has a great FAQ here: http://www.greenparty.ca/en/policy/spp_FAQ#5.
PLEASE READ ALL OF THIS!!! OUR SOVEREIGNTY IS THREATENED FROM THESE TRAITORS POSING AS OUR GOVERNMENT!!!!
I thought this Youtube video was pure BS but if you dig around you’ll see there’s something sinister going on here, all connected with the Immigration PLAN and the “Partnership”: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P-hvPJPTi4
Google: Homeland Security Contracts KBR for Vast New Detention Centers in US:
Finally, the U.N. Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) is now being pushed by Bush Co for a quick vote.
Google: Last Stand For American Sovereignty (wont let me post link)
UNCLOS was formely LOST http://www.aim.org/guest_column/5493_0_6_0_C/ ):
The Cable Industry (the one that is trying to steal our internet commons away from the PEOPLE via stripping us of net neutrality) will benefit from UNCLOS being passed. Google this - I can't post the link for some reason.
All of this makes Directive 51 make perfectly evil sense: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFB_a3_VNnc
I am not inclined to conspiracy theories, but after digging around I have no doubt something evil this way comes!!
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Posted by: yurbud on Jun 3, 2007 11:13 AM
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My grandfather is proud to help me because I'm the most educated person in my family, and being a "professor" looks like part of that American Dream about each generation doing better than the one before.
Ironically, with two years of college, he was able to own a house and support a stay at home mom and three kids by my age while I consider myself lucky to make my rent, and that I have one school that provides health insurance for me alone (no family allowed).
I taught for eight years at four different districts before any of them offered me that health insurance. Before that, I was paying $200 a month out of pocket for a long-term medication.
I took out $50,000 in student loans to get the degree that’s required to do my job. That’s ballooned to over $100,000 with interest because it’s been tough to pay with irregular work and having to pay for any medical expenses out of pocket for eight years. My student loan payments are more than my rent.
I also work more than a full time load when my multiple jobs are added together, and split the difference between what I can teach effectively and the number of classes I need to pay my bills.
I wish my story were unique, but I know many part time faculty members who only have health insurance through their spouses or have none when a major medical crisis like cancer comes up. Others still live with their parents in their forties and fifties because they love teaching in spite of how we are treated.
What kind of morals and what about the value of education are we teaching our students when college instructors are treated like suckers and Walmart employees?
Something is profoundly wrong when our education system is aping the worst practices of the private sector rather than leading by example. Administrators have failed to act responsibly in these matters and need more guidance from the legislature.
equal pay for equal work for part time faculty
AFT fights for laws to end part time faculty abuse
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Posted by: chseitz on Jun 6, 2007 7:06 PM
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In regard to the unemployment problem and the incursion of and the diminution of the middle-class, I would like to ose a question: In our Industrial Society if only ten percent of the population can p.roduce all our goods an services how are the other ninety percent goimg to get their fair share without our federal government becoming a socialst welfare state? I suggest that this can be done by changing the corporate structure to membership societies and changing the economic system. to where corporations can issue money. I explain all this in my book REVENGE AT HIGH TOR available at Amazon.com and I also urge reading Escape from Evil by Ernest Becker for background. This country is on a fast track to oblivion. The fox is in the henhouse and the inmates have taken over the asylum. . The old political game was the Liberals vs. the conservative but the new game in town is the mass of middle Americans with their vote vs. the handful of money people who are greedy and robing us. The Democratic party at the last election got a mandate to do something but they are still playing the old game. It is about time we did something, did something to save our country annd our way of life, the American Dream.
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Posted by: yesman on Jun 6, 2007 10:15 PM
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The real problem is the "shareholders" in the corporation. They receive far larger sums than mere corporate officers, and these sums are paid for ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. They don't even have to go to an office or sit at a desk. Their contribution to the enterprise? "Owning." Next time you're hungry, try satisfying that hunger by "owning." That is to say, "owning" is not work, it's not productive, it is in fact literally nothing. It's simply a fiction which we allow to exist according to which some persons are allowed to retain the value of others' productive labor. If we weren't talking about "economics," that would be called stealing. Shareholders are parasites, pure and simple, and it is this parasitical relationship which is at the bottom of the absurd and unconscionable disparities in standards of living which we observe in the US.
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Shopping Mall of America
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Posted by: edith on May 31, 2007 1:09 AM
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The authoritarian nature of the larger US corporations is evident by the distorted pay scales skewed to benefit several individuals at the top of companies that employ thousands. The man at the top is responsible for all of the success, and all of the failure. It's an irony at how simplistic a view the market and market makers hold of what it takes for a corporation to succeed. Just change the guy at the top and all will be well.
If the purpose of the company is to appreciate (inflate) its stock, then the quality of its products and the fair compensation of all its employees are afterthoughts.
After all, what are the lower scale managers and employees going to do? Strike? Ha Ha. Not in America.
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Posted by: richholland on May 31, 2007 2:07 AM
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If you are a communists you have to follow the Party number 1, if you love the capitalisme you should accept that some are very rich and many poor. Because that is the result of capitalisme as proved by the filosopher KARL MARX in 1848(Das Kapital)
In Europe we have the Socialkapitalisme what means that every worker has one month holiday, medical insurance etc.
Once our Prime Minister (a billionaire) said that the comparison between minimum net income 1; to a top salary should not exceed 5.
So if the minimum in holland is about$ 1000, a maximum should be netto about 5000. per month.
In reality we are going the American way in future Europa..But as you mentioned before; Left doesnot mean always progressif and Right doesnot allways mean conservatif.
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Posted by: unity1 on May 31, 2007 4:04 AM
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The obsenity of such amounts of money contrast with another event existing simultaneously in time - the deaths of millions of people in the middle east - extreme wealth and extreme destruction - nothing exists in a vacum
how come it keeps going on year after year -
we know by now that corporations have the personality of a psychopath - what we don't really want to admit is how enslaved we really are
how shallow our freedoms
the world is facing multipile crisis, looming - and yet it does nothing much - having NORMALISED all its warning signs - it fails to comprehend the challenges facing it
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Posted by: JohnnyM on May 31, 2007 5:58 AM
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We have executives egos getting paid way too much, Enron-like scandals, growing poverty, firms on wall street owning companies by-the-numbers only(w/o a care for the employees lives), etc.
Raising monies without the free market would be difficult, and to make it a law to have to make a profit for your shareholders is ridiculous (it is their excuse for many atrocities). And then to say 'hey, my plan made this company $100Billion so I deserve at least $100M, while fair and reasonable sounding, only makes sense if everyone who executed the plan also has at least an 8-figure salary.
Who in the company executes the strategy? The middle management. It's as if society believes that formulating a strategy is 100 times more important than executing it, which of course is wrong! In fact, the complete opposite might be true.
It is pure ego and greed that justifies these salaries in their minds, if they do at all.
This is our failure. Democracy is what makes the west the best, not the free-market.
So Mr/Mrs CEO, don't tell me life isn't fair or it's human nature or it's a dog-eat-dog world, because these things are only true in your mind, and there's enough food, water, money for everyone. It is you who doesn't like to share. It is you who is the hoarder. Poverty should have been beaten 20 years ago or more, but it is you who have disallowed this to happen.
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Posted by: malcolmartin on May 31, 2007 6:01 AM
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But even these corporate welfare measures only delay the inevitable. There is only so much technology can boost production or wages can be depressed until a slave system must be created to increase profits. Even at that, the system will then stare into the eyes of its fatal contradiction. Slaves cannot buy the products they produce.
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Posted by: White middleclass male on May 31, 2007 6:04 AM
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My advice to you get ahead any way possible. Lie, cheat , steal, manipulate, fuck the boss and film it if that is what it takes. But please stop your god damn bitching.
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Posted by: paschn on May 31, 2007 6:24 AM
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This is obvious when you look at the millions of middle/lower class idiots that support the Republican "gang". The core of which are, (for the most part), the spawn of the maggots that worked us 12 to 14 hours a day 7 days a week, made fortunes working along side our "enemies", ( Prescot Bush, Coca Cola,[ ever hear of Fanta ], and other "patriotic U.S. corporations), they used their "pocket politicians then as now to manipulate us all and rape the environment and we basically thank 'em for it. Hell, look at the billions we give the terrorist nation of Israel, as a thankyou for murdering our service men,( USS Liberty), spying on us and possibly false flagging us into wars we never should have fought.
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Posted by: NumberSix on May 31, 2007 8:26 AM
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The problem, as I always saw it, is that too many economists don't study load kinetics, structure, weight and balance. One asks, "Can we really interpret an economic system using similar laws as we do mechanical systems?" I say, yes, and history agrees with such a methodology.
Hence, the so-called "free market" is much akin to building a pyramid: We must keep in mind weight distribution. The base of the structure must be wide enough, and strong enough to maintain the structuring above. Each layer below must then contain it's own weight, and the weight of the above. Layer by layer, until we get to the base, and the base had better be able to support mass in millions of tons PSI.
Can we say this is true of economic systems? By far.
To be wealthy, there must be a supportive financial system below, with each layer generating a kind of financial "mass containment" for each. Each layer then supports all the layers above and so on.
Ah! So, with both, what happens if the supporting structures cannot contain the load mass from above? With a building, we then haul out chaos math, and apply the avalanche kinetic. At a point, the whole sucker collapses.
Worse, suppose we keep adding more and more to the upper portions, but without adding more superstructure below? Again, avalanche kicks in: Bang, boom and look out below!
And?
What I am seeing is a middle class fading away, becoming more and more poor. This robs the economic superstructure of the ability to maintain the mass of those who are wealthy. Eventually, a collapse goes off, and everyone on top rides chaotically to the dirt below.
Sadly, there aren't precise engineering methods to predict when an economic structure implodes, but, we can, yes, from history, see that when this happens, the end is eventual, and no amount of goddamned whining.....can stop it.
The neo-cons, and the cultists of greed say this cannot happen. I offer world history as argument: Every time in our past, when the wealthy become too wealthy, and the supporing economic structure under them gives away....the results are total economic catastrophe.
It would, then, make sense to reshuffle some things, build a very strong economic system to repair the middle class, to broaden the economic base so to speak, but that does not appear to be going to happen.
The end result? A worldwide depression the likes mankind has not seen. Revolt will take place in more places than our little armies can contain. It will happen.
And no, it ain't communism, socialism or whatever. It's just pure, simple engineering: We cannot build a system with infinite wealth without also building a structure that can maintain it. Otherwise? Don't call me when the avalanche hits.
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Posted by: AGeach on May 31, 2007 9:11 AM
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The only thing it IS in the best interest of, is themselves, while rapidly removing the middle class.
We are and have been on a fast track to a 2 class society. No longer will there be a middle class, only the wealthy and the slaves to keep them that way.
The design of the new immigration bill is set to insure this. The illegals will gain legal status, and continue to work for the depressed wages they are responsible for, and we are required to accept if we want to work. Our taxes will continue to remain high, and there will be an additional drain due to the increased ABUSE of social services that the now LEGAL, illegals will be free to fully avail themselves of.
While they're taxing away our income, they are giving increased tax breaks to the Capitalist corporations and the wealthy. We will be paying out more to keep the rich in their lifestyle, while THEY erode ours.
There is NO justification for the insane incomes top executives earn, NOR the additional benefits, stock options etc. that they are paid. Especially when the same companies giving those executive "perks" are laying off the very people that have made it possible for the jerk at the top to be there. How can an executive who has been with a company only 4 mos. possibly have earned the right to a 7 figure income? He has not even had the opportunity to prove himself.
Then there are the executives who lie, steal, cheat, and generally screw up a company, and they are given a tremendous exit package, upon leaving. Never mind that they are responsible for millions in loss, they are given mulit-million packages.
Capitalism is rapidly eroding the working class in this country, and if the tax payers don't vote out those responsible, as well as begin to hold companies and executives accountable, then it will happen faster than they can blink their eyes.
Their billing me for killing me!!!
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Posted by: Sojourner on May 31, 2007 9:23 AM
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The justification for royalty was that it fought the wars and kept the peace. History shows that they preferred to war with each other.
Economists have been unable to agree on a designation for our time. I suggest "Return to Feudalism."
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Posted by: nb1102 on May 31, 2007 12:21 PM
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As read by Kristen Osman from Upland, California: “Wal-Mart can be about so much more than making money. It can be about leading the industry in fair labor practices. It can be about leading the field in environmentally sensitive causes. To many that I know, Wal-Mart has become a symbol of all that disturbs them about big business. You CAN change their minds and get them back into your stores by showing the kind of compassion for the world around you that wins the hearts and minds of your customers.”
It's time for a change.
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Posted by: DaBear on May 31, 2007 12:56 PM
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WE ARE SPARTICUS! (only this time mebbe we win)
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Posted by: Iconoclast421 on May 31, 2007 1:43 PM
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Yet the economy has stalled during the last quarter.
Please folks, my name is Rush Limbaugh and I humbly ask you to ignore that big elephant in the middle of the room.
DOW up 50% so far this millenium. Real wages down by same amount, and more.
What is really happening is that the top 10% are just barely keeping up. The rest of us are sinking. Few are truly getting rich. I wonder how many of them can do it without downing pills all day long...
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Posted by: Blue Heron on May 31, 2007 2:40 PM
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"America is immune to all appeals. Her people do not understand the language of the poet. They do not wish to recognize suffering- it is too embarrassing. They do not greet Beauty with open arms - her presence is disturbing to heartless automatons. Their fear of violence drives them to commit insane cruelties. They have no reverence for form or image: they are bent on destroying whatever does not conform to their pattern, which is chaos. They are not even concerned with their own disintegration, because they are already putrescent. A vast congeries of rotting sepulchres, America holds for yet a little while, awaiting the opportune moment to blow itself to smithereens."
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Posted by: freethink7 on May 31, 2007 3:30 PM
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For a list of "Most Wanted" Corporate Human Rights Violators
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Posted by: Aussie Kim on May 31, 2007 4:49 PM
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I wonder when you wil have your own Russian Revolution? It's only a matter of time, I think...
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Posted by: gracefounddog on May 31, 2007 10:12 PM
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Official site for this unconstitutional ‘partnership’ is here: http://www.spp.gov/
The Canadian Green Party has a great FAQ here: http://www.greenparty.ca/en/policy/spp_FAQ#5.
PLEASE READ ALL OF THIS!!! OUR SOVEREIGNTY IS THREATENED FROM THESE TRAITORS POSING AS OUR GOVERNMENT!!!!
I thought this Youtube video was pure BS but if you dig around you’ll see there’s something sinister going on here, all connected with the Immigration PLAN and the “Partnership”: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P-hvPJPTi4
Google: Homeland Security Contracts KBR for Vast New Detention Centers in US:
Finally, the U.N. Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) is now being pushed by Bush Co for a quick vote.
Google: Last Stand For American Sovereignty (wont let me post link)
UNCLOS was formely LOST http://www.aim.org/guest_column/5493_0_6_0_C/ ):
The Cable Industry (the one that is trying to steal our internet commons away from the PEOPLE via stripping us of net neutrality) will benefit from UNCLOS being passed. Google this - I can't post the link for some reason.
All of this makes Directive 51 make perfectly evil sense: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFB_a3_VNnc
I am not inclined to conspiracy theories, but after digging around I have no doubt something evil this way comes!!
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Posted by: kogwonton on May 31, 2007 10:42 PM
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Posted by: Gravitas on Jun 2, 2007 7:00 PM
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Posted by: yurbud on Jun 3, 2007 11:13 AM
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My grandfather is proud to help me because I'm the most educated person in my family, and being a "professor" looks like part of that American Dream about each generation doing better than the one before.
Ironically, with two years of college, he was able to own a house and support a stay at home mom and three kids by my age while I consider myself lucky to make my rent, and that I have one school that provides health insurance for me alone (no family allowed).
I taught for eight years at four different districts before any of them offered me that health insurance. Before that, I was paying $200 a month out of pocket for a long-term medication.
I took out $50,000 in student loans to get the degree that’s required to do my job. That’s ballooned to over $100,000 with interest because it’s been tough to pay with irregular work and having to pay for any medical expenses out of pocket for eight years. My student loan payments are more than my rent.
I also work more than a full time load when my multiple jobs are added together, and split the difference between what I can teach effectively and the number of classes I need to pay my bills.
I wish my story were unique, but I know many part time faculty members who only have health insurance through their spouses or have none when a major medical crisis like cancer comes up. Others still live with their parents in their forties and fifties because they love teaching in spite of how we are treated.
What kind of morals and what about the value of education are we teaching our students when college instructors are treated like suckers and Walmart employees?
Something is profoundly wrong when our education system is aping the worst practices of the private sector rather than leading by example. Administrators have failed to act responsibly in these matters and need more guidance from the legislature.
equal pay for equal work for part time faculty
AFT fights for laws to end part time faculty abuse
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Posted by: chseitz on Jun 6, 2007 7:06 PM
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In regard to the unemployment problem and the incursion of and the diminution of the middle-class, I would like to ose a question: In our Industrial Society if only ten percent of the population can p.roduce all our goods an services how are the other ninety percent goimg to get their fair share without our federal government becoming a socialst welfare state? I suggest that this can be done by changing the corporate structure to membership societies and changing the economic system. to where corporations can issue money. I explain all this in my book REVENGE AT HIGH TOR available at Amazon.com and I also urge reading Escape from Evil by Ernest Becker for background. This country is on a fast track to oblivion. The fox is in the henhouse and the inmates have taken over the asylum. . The old political game was the Liberals vs. the conservative but the new game in town is the mass of middle Americans with their vote vs. the handful of money people who are greedy and robing us. The Democratic party at the last election got a mandate to do something but they are still playing the old game. It is about time we did something, did something to save our country annd our way of life, the American Dream.
Charles H. Seitz
628 Topsfield Road
Hatboro, Pa 19040
(215) 675-5524
chseitz@voicenet.com
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Posted by: yesman on Jun 6, 2007 10:15 PM
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The real problem is the "shareholders" in the corporation. They receive far larger sums than mere corporate officers, and these sums are paid for ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. They don't even have to go to an office or sit at a desk. Their contribution to the enterprise? "Owning." Next time you're hungry, try satisfying that hunger by "owning." That is to say, "owning" is not work, it's not productive, it is in fact literally nothing. It's simply a fiction which we allow to exist according to which some persons are allowed to retain the value of others' productive labor. If we weren't talking about "economics," that would be called stealing. Shareholders are parasites, pure and simple, and it is this parasitical relationship which is at the bottom of the absurd and unconscionable disparities in standards of living which we observe in the US.
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Posted by: dealmeinfo2 on Jun 20, 2007 2:44 PM
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