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Vet Prosecuted for Protesting Military Recruitment in Library

By Matthew Rothschild, The Progressive. Posted May 17, 2007.


A veteran and his wife started putting up 3x5 cards on the window of the room used by recruiters in a library. Then the police came.
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Tim Coli served in the first Gulf War and now suffers from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.

On March 12, he and his wife, Yvette, went to the Stow-Munroe Falls Public Library in Ohio. At 37, she is a student at Kent State and needed to study for a biology test. Tim, 40, was reading some books.

Then they noticed two military recruiters trying to enlist someone in a nearby room, with a large glass window.

She decided to take action.

She took out some 3x5 cards and wrote messages to the man being recruited and then put them up on the window sill.

"Don't fall for it! Military recruiters lie," said one.

"It's not honorable to fight for a lying President," said another.

She says she cleared it all first.

"Before I put those cards up, I went to a volunteer and I asked her if it was OK if I put those cards up in the window, and she said she didn't have a problem with that but talk to someone who works there," Yvette says. "The next person said it was fine so long as there is no confrontation. And she said, 'Between you and I, I wish they weren't here, either.' "

The recruiters were none too happy with the cards.

One of them came out and asked Coil who put them up.

When she admitted she had, he asked for her name, which she didn't give him.

He told her that she and her husband couldn't put the cards up.

"My husband asked him if he was trying to keep us from using our freedom of speech," Coil says.

He didn't answer that, she says, but he did tell her again to stop.

He took the cards and went to find the library director.

In the meantime, Coil put some more card on the sill:

"Don't do it."

"My husband is a Gulf War Veteran. He can tell you the truth"

"To the military, you are cannon fodder."

"Recruiters: You're fighting for my freedom of speech, too!"

The library director, Doug Dotterer, told them that if they put up one more card, he was going to ask them to leave, Coil says. He told them they couldn't display things that were disturbing other people in the library. She told him that the Army had its brochures out on a nearby table, and they were disturbing her, she says.

"My husband said that the library was a public place and we are allowed our freedom of speech," Coil says. "The director said it was his library, and so we would have to follow his rules."

When he left, they knocked on the window and urged the man being recruited not to join up.

Soon the police arrived.

They asked the Coils to leave the building.

"We said, 'Gladly,' " Yvette recalls.

But on his way out, Tim called the director a name.

"One more word from you and I'll arrest you," the police officer told Tim.

Then Tim shouted, "Don't let the military recruit people in the library."

Whereupon the police arrested him and took him to the station and booked him for disorderly conduct. A little while later, Yvette came and picked him up.

The district attorney did not return phone calls for comment.

Library Director Dotterer would not talk except to say: "I contacted my board president, who is an attorney, and he indicated that because this is an ongoing case we're not going to comment. What I would refer you to are the official police reports."

The police report says Coil was arrested for "causing a disturbance within a library."

At an April 30 pretrial meeting, Coil was asked if he wanted to make a plea and settle the whole thing.

"No, I'm not guilty," he said, according to his wife.

She explains: "We're Mennonite. To lie about that would be wrong. I don't want him to go to jail. Neither does he. He doesn't need that. But I believe that God's going to take care of it. We're OK with whatever happens. The point is if we don't stand for these freedoms and we don't allow ourselves to be put on the line for those things, there won't be an option anymore."

Attorney William Whitaker is representing the Coils.

"If a statute punishes this conduct, then that statute is unconstitutional since it sweeps protected speech within its orbit," he says. "They were engaged in protected First Amendment speech. It's legitimate to use the public library in the same way that the recruiters were using it."

On May 10, Yvette Coil says that her lawyer was advised that the state would drop charges if they would pay $100 in court fees.

"Tim said he should not have to pay for being harassed," says Yvette. "No one has the right to take your freedoms away."

The case is scheduled for June 5.

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Matthew Rothschild is the editor of The Progressive.

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"TruthSerum" Hugh must think this is fine!
Posted by: karma_ran_over_dogma on May 17, 2007 12:22 AM   
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TruthSerum maligned the vast majority of Alternet readers recently by declaring that the problem with us is that most of you were never in the military and have no sense of discipline or sacrifice. He is always deriding us for not doing enough - by his standards - to stop Bush's 'insane war of choice,' but he seems to think grown adults joining the military for idiotic reasons, at this point in history, is perfectly ok. Correct me if I'm wrong, TruthSerum.

(I was awake tonight - thought just once I might beat him to his 3 a.m., or is it 2 a.m., Calif. time blogging & spamming alarm)

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WTF...
Posted by: Aussie Kim on May 17, 2007 1:24 AM   
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...were the military doing in a LIBRARY?!

Don't they have the money to spend on their own buildings? Or a recruiting CARAVAN?

But then again, perhaps they gave money to the library for using the room, and libraries are always under-funded...

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» public space Posted by: Allison
» Yes, it probably was a room rental situation Posted by: karma_ran_over_dogma
Library Director's e-mail address
Posted by: truthteller on May 17, 2007 4:30 AM   
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Another version of this artlcle sent to me by a friend in the Akron area had the e-mail address of the director of the Stow-Monroe Falls Library. Link below. I've already sent my protest e-mail. Let's flood him with messages of protest on this. I used to live in Stow, and I'm ashamed of this.

ghostrider44224@yahoo.com.

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» let's see some ID Posted by: thaumaturgistguy
» Link to original article Posted by: truthteller
Freedom of Speech......
Posted by: Conservasaurus on May 17, 2007 5:10 AM   
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isnt the issue here.. The recruiters had permission, no one is allowed to place anything in a public building without permission.. it's as simple as that! Especially if the military was paying the library for the space..

If there were an anti war event going on in the library I'm sure the military wouuldn't be allowed to walk in & place hand written notes up against the event.........

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» without permission..... Posted by: moflard
» RE: Your argument makes no sense... Posted by: Conservasaurus
» Troll Alert!!! Posted by: russianblue1
» RE: Troll Alert!!! Posted by: CatDad
» RE: Freedom of Speech...... Posted by: CatDad
» RE: Freedom of Speech...... Posted by: Conservasaurus
» RE: Freedom of Speech...... Posted by: CatDad
» RE: Freedom of Speech...... Posted by: peacefullaim
» RE: Freedom of Speech...... Posted by: Conservasaurus
» RE:To Cat Dad Posted by: Ellie1
» RE: Freedom of Speech...... Posted by: JNagarya
» RE: Freedom of Speech...... Posted by: Atwood
Spinning the Facts
Posted by: kbest on May 17, 2007 6:24 AM   
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Leave it to Liberals to spin the facts. If these people were bothered by something in the library, they have the right to leave. No one was bothering them. The other people were in another room. Her husband was in the military? Probably to get the benefits like college tuition not realizing the military has a job to do. We have an all volunteer force and alot of people consider those that protect us as doing a noble and worthy job.

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» RE: Spinning the Facts Posted by: nise52
» Oh yeah, this sounds likely. Posted by: Knowmad
» Ironic Posted by: xconservative
Shame on AlterNet users who target bloggers they don’t like instead of the REAL enemy.
Posted by: TheTruthSeeker on May 17, 2007 6:43 AM   
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This thread began with a personal attack on me by Karma_ran_over_dogma and Frankenfoot.

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» Mayflower descendant ?! Posted by: kww355
» And your history's wrong too Posted by: brunowe
» Convoluted Posted by: karma_ran_over_dogma
George's daddy said it best.........
Posted by: mizipi on May 17, 2007 7:04 AM   
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THE NEW WORLD ORDER. Forget about the US Constitution, we live under the NWO of the Bush and other aristocratic GODS! If Jesus were to have walked into the library, well, Jesus would have never made it that far. He would have been in Guantanamo or, more likely, nailed to a dead tree.

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» You know that ... Posted by: Joshua Holland
Public libraries are not for political demonstrations.
Posted by: TheTruthSeeker on May 17, 2007 7:06 AM   
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As much as I hate Bush’s unjustified war of choice and sympathize with Tim Coli and his wife, Yvette, their protest was misplaced.

Public libraries belong to all of us. There is one six blocks from my home. For me, the city-run depository is a cherished quiet retreat from all the anger in America these days.

I wouldn’t want to see signs supporting President Bush when entering my library. For the same reason -- respect for individual beliefs no matter how repugnant -- people who support the war should have the same right of unobtrusive access.

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» The usual hypocrisy... Posted by: karma_ran_over_dogma
» RE: rights Posted by: mom'z the word
A better way for Vickie Coli to publicize her husband’s problems.
Posted by: TheTruthSeeker on May 17, 2007 9:33 AM   
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Having been a union member who spent two years on strike against Continental Airlines, I know something about public protests.

There are literally hundreds of ways to effectively influence the opinions of others, which should be the main objective of public protests. Posting 3x5 cards in a library window is not one of them, even if it does generate 15 minutes of fame.

For example, Yvette Coli is a student of Kent State. What better forum to publicize her veteran husband's problem than the sacred bloodied ground of Vietnam War protestors!

During the Continental strike, I walked back and forth on four-hour picket tours in front of Concourse "C" at LAX wearing a large cardboard sandwich sign that announced the corporate tyranny CAL CEO Frank Lorenzo had unleashed on his unionized workers. Yvette Coli should do the same thing at Kent State every time she goes to class, wearing a sandwich sign that described Tim Coli's medical problems.

But then, that kind of effective public protest requires gumption and imagination -- a lot more than is needed to post 3x5 cards in a library window.

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Communicating with an individual who's about to enlist
Posted by: karma_ran_over_dogma on May 17, 2007 9:51 AM   
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seems to me a perfectly appropriate means of protest. And doubtless, MUCH more effective than sandwich boards, parading on highway medians, driving around the White House with horns blaring, or any of the silly means of protest a certain person here comes up with.

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» I originally wrote LUDRICROUS but changed it Posted by: karma_ran_over_dogma
» be careful, karma Posted by: kww355
» RE: be careful, karma Posted by: karma_ran_over_dogma
that what recuriters do
Posted by: eosrk on May 17, 2007 10:49 AM   
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lie, use trickery, and are full of shit, this coming from an Gulf war 1 vet....and I can prove it.

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Yuiopi
Posted by: yuiopi on May 17, 2007 2:56 PM   
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Whatever happened to the good old days when you could go to the library to read and study or quietly post a pamphlet without a military recruiter acting like he owns the place and has the right to disturb you. While we're at it, is anyone here not bothered by the fact that nobody including the military bothered to take care of and compensate this vet? Is that the reason they are afraid to debate him or let him post his card?

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Time For "Novel" Protest (Get It?)!
Posted by: grumble-bum on May 18, 2007 6:41 PM   
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... Yes, that would be a library pun.

I was energized to hear of this unique protest, carried out by non-professional citizen activists.

Hugh Scott (who I'm beginning to regret defending on principle recently) states that this sort of direct action comes from a desire for "15 minutes of fame". I would rephrase it as 15 minutes of much-needed attention. The fact is that marches & sign-carrying are mostly ignored these days. The actions that the couple took in the library will probably generate scads more publicity than if they had circled the courthouse all afternoon. & by publicity, I mean for the issue of the Occupation (& the apparent attendant need to recruit in fucking libraries, of all places), not for the individuals who staged the off-the-cuff protest. No one will remember their names in two months time, but the eccentric & confrontational nature of their actions (& resulting legal system disruption) won't be forgotten.

I haven't been engaged in any sort of organized or orchestrated public demonstration since the days leading up to the first Gulf War, when I attended marches with my father. I was barely a teenager at that time, & the experience was demoralizing. Not only did the large-scale national effort to protest that impending war fail miserably, but as soon as the invasion began, many people who had supported such protests turned into rabid detractors.

This time around, large marches have been ignored by the MSM & seemingly compromised from within by lack of focus on the part of "professional" activists with too many varied axes to grind.

What has captured the Nation's attention? In-your-face, personalized protest, ala Cindy Sheehan. It seems, in this day & age, you gotta have a gimmick.

In reading this article, I'm reminded one of the skewed characters in the Illuminati Trilogy, the dwarf who would hide in the coffee-urns of megalithic corporations & then sneak out at night to post obscure & unsettling protests around the workplace.

I'm also reminded of Boston Tea Party.

Dynamic, high-profile actions by normal people are very much what is needed right now.

LET THE PIES FLY!

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Open Letter to Hugh & Friends
Posted by: grumble-bum on May 18, 2007 7:01 PM   
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Hey, Guys, Gals, Etc... this is getting to be absurd. Doing battle with words is mighty fun, I know, but some of these inter-post exchanges are really getting out of hand, don't you think? I was under the impression that the article we're all commenting on was about civil disobedience, not who came where when & on what boat. It's clear that Hugh is getting to be pretty pissy these days, but it's probably not helping matters that he can't make a point (valid or not- in this case, not particularly) without about ten people gang-raping him.

Hugh; Please take a break. The strain is getting to you. Honestly, I don't think you're as bad as some of these folks seem to believe, but as things stand you're just making things worse for yourself. As an older person, & as a person with a Military background, you may well have some wisdom to offer us young punks, but you won't be able to share it if you keep derailing threads & being a crank.

Everybody Else; Please ignore Hugh while he takes a breather, & don't immediately jump on his first post if he decides to return. If he comes back in a more reasonable frame of mind after his sabbatical, pretend he just got out of rehab. Don't be offering him his "drug of choice", which appears at this point to be all-out petty conflict. That shit is nastier than crack, & about as worthwhile...

That's my two cents. Carry on...

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Libraries
Posted by: Maryanne on May 19, 2007 7:42 AM   
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I have had a lifelong connection with libraries- as a patron, as an employee (during college days) and a trusttee.

Libraries may be a public place and groups may pay to use the meeting rooms, since the library is in a sense a community center. However, there are certain things that cannot be done in the library- even if a group rents a room. For example, one cannot do a cooking demonstration or provide gymnastics, etc. It must be appropriate to the purpose of the library.

Moreover, it is not allowed for library personnel (librarians, aides, volunteers) to engage in political conversations with patrons.( an vice versa). If this is the case, as it is in the area in which we live, then it is most inapporpriate for recruiters to rent, or borrow space in the library to pursue an activity that in one sense is a political matter. Recruiters, as mentioned above, have recruiting stations and can have vans from which they can approach their potential recruits.

Furthermore the library does not BELONG to this head librarian. He/she is an EMPLOYEE of the library sytem, hired to do a job from which he/ she can be released if not functioning in an appropriate manner. In addition it was poor judgement on the part of whoever allowed recruilters to use the library. A library is a place of learning- not a place to recruit military.

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A titch more detail, please....
Posted by: terryprice on May 20, 2007 9:26 AM   
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I'm curious what name the individual called the library official.

Freedom of speech is one thing, but it would be one thing to have someone racist or derogatory without consequence, and another calling him or her something reasonably innocuous.

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About the Recruiters paying for the room...
Posted by: brotherjonah on May 20, 2007 8:35 PM   
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They didn't. Even if the money was channeled through the military it was ultimately OUR money that paid for that rent.

Rent paid from one governmental agency to another but OUR money.

The Recruiters didn't pull the money from their own pockets.

Even if they did, they get paid a bonus for each recruit who successfully completes Basic Training and AIT/ Tech School..

I don't know exactly how much, but 30 pieces of silver should be about the right price, all things considered.

So the Recruiters were MAKING money off the deal.

And beyond that, after successfully recruiting a certain number of young men to go where the Recruiters aren't going, which is off to war and possibly their deaths, the Recruiters get an automatic preference in promotions.
Which as they explained to me in Basic Training, being promoted means getting a raise. It's not only a higher rank it's a hagher PAY GRADE.

Thus the idea that the ARMY was paying for the privilege to buy young people's souls at the library is FALSE.

The people who were arrested for protesting it were paying for the room.

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Library Incident
Posted by: KUCING on May 23, 2007 6:01 PM   
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It is more than an incident, really. It's indicative of present day US government abuse or disregard of the Constitution. BUT YESSS there are stll Americans who know what to live for.

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Armed Forces recruiters.
Posted by: KUCING on May 23, 2007 6:09 PM   
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Are they veterans themselves? Or are they bush-like veterans? People who fat-ass their time in the military by seducing the innocent - and mostly poor - young to serve as cannon fodder for the neocons' brave bellicosity, but who would suffer from dire cases of "dire-rear" commonly described as 'shitting their pants' if asked to do their part in defending the homeland - in Iraq or Afghanistan, mind you.

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