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Several thousand more have serious burns and radiation sickness. Hundreds of thousands flee in panic and seek shelter. Two hundred square miles are contaminated. National Guardsmen from several states as well as the Army, Air Force, Marines, special forces, firefighters, police and the Red Cross are mobilized to rescue the injured and secure the peace.
For Levi Hall, 20, the nuclear detonation couldn't have come at a better time. His girlfriend just told him she was pregnant. He needed money badly. "I work at a factory. I took vacation to actually be able to do this," he said, his arm and face smeared with fake blood as he crouched at the base of Rubble Pile 2, collecting $15 an hour playing a victim at the Muscatatuck Urban Training Center (MUTC) in southern Indiana where the U.S. Northern Command (Northcom) is simulating one of the largest nuclear detonation (Nudet) exercises ever. The MUTC, a sprawling complex taken over by the Indiana National Guard in 2005 had previously housed and cared for hundreds of mentally disabled residents. The Army recently earmarked $100 million to turn it into a year-round training center for urban warfare.
Making the unthinkable manageable is painstaking work. Yet this is precisely what homeland security officials believe is possible. According to a story last week in the San Francisco Chronicle, "a high-level group of government and military officials has been quietly preparing an emergency survival program" in case of a nuclear attack. Last month, 41 participants met for a strategy meeting in Washington, D.C., dubbed "The Day After," according to the Chronicle. They urged local governments and individuals to build underground bomb shelters, and prevent evacuations of attacked areas to avoid traffic jams and the suspension of civil liberties, the Chronicle reported.
On day two of the drill, dubbed "Vigilant Guard" and running May 10-18, rescue prospects were looking bleak for several of the fake victims. They had arrived in the early morning at a brick building with a Sears sign taped on the window. They were "moolaged," a term used by the military and Cubic Defense, the huge civilian contractor charged with choreographing the event and supplying fake blood and snack bars that were chewed and spit out to simulate puking. But by noon, there were no rescuers in site.
Some of the victims stood on the pavement playing hacky sack in front of the fake shopping center. Jessica Massie, 25, her left arm bloodied, said she normally worked for animal control. "Our town has dogs running at large and they pick them up and bring them in. I get $8 an hour. I took off work to come here for a week." The previous day, she was "in the rubble pile, and they put debris on me and I was paralyzed from the waist down. And I had a head and a neck wound, and then I started vomiting like real-world vomiting, and they put me on a stretcher." When asked if she thought it would be possible to survive a nuclear attack, she said, "If the Army gets in here and helps us, and everybody does the right thing and no one panics, then I think there's a good chance that some people survive but not everybody."
By 3 p.m., the rescuers still hadn't arrived. Sitting on picnic benches in front of the fake Sears store were two health specialists, one from the Centers for Disease Control and one from FEMA. Both had been flown in to observe the exercise. Asked if he felt such exercises were productive, the CDC official said he had never witnessed a drill that did not provide some useful information. He had witnessed TopOff 2, the 2003 Homeland Security exercise that simulated the detonation of a radiological dispersal device (RDD) in Seattle and released pneumonic plague into the Chicago metro area. From that experience, the CDC last month posted on its website protocols for the removal of radiated human remains.
It took a few years, but protocols have been established and he recently completed a training video with the New York City medical examiner's office on radioactive human remains disposal.
At 6 p.m., with no rescuers to be seen, both health specialists left. Waiting patiently were several videographers and photographers from the National Guard who were making a documentary to show members of Congress the benefit of Nudet simulations. Finally, two men, in all-encompassing yellow suits, part of a chemical, biological, radiological and nuclear enhanced package (CBRNE) team, appeared over a grassy hill riding a four-wheel vehicle. They approached slowly. They dismounted the vehicle and opened a fire hydrant. They took water samples. They retreated. One victim pounded on the window of the Sears building, hoping in vain for rescue.
Fifty yards away on debris pile 2, where Levi Hall had already put in a 13-hour day hoping to go until midnight, so that at the end of the week he might make time and a half, first-responders had arrived and tagged him with a priority 2 label. Not far away, at the top of the pile, was a bloodied Chris Dowden, 26, recently returned from military service in Afghanistan. Blood dripped down his shirt. He was tagged priority 1. But just as the first responders started strapping victims on to stretchers, a belligerent mob wielding sticks and fake rocks charged the rescuers, screaming, waving their sticks, egged on by a Cubic director. The angry mob made off with a few stretchers. "Make a good snowboard," one fake rioter said to another. Swat police were called in to maintain order. After a few smoke bombs and an arrest, the rescuers returned to tend to the injured.
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Posted by: RoffleTheWaffle on May 15, 2007 3:31 AM
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We know already that your prospects for surviving a nuke are pretty slim if you're not in some kind of shelter to protect you from the blast and the radiation, and the last place you want to be when a bomb goes off is ground zero. You'd think we'd at least be able to dig a few people out before they've gone terminal, though.
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Posted by: sven on May 15, 2007 3:56 AM
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Bomb shelters against ICBMs from the USSR, I can understand. But for a terrorist attack?
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» I got my plastic sheet and my duct tape -- I'm good to go, baby!
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Posted by: gdonald on May 15, 2007 4:08 AM
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I didn't read where they even brought these temporary employees any lunch. I would say that we all should have learned a great deal from Katrina and from this article.
Get prepared yourselves in the event of any crisis. Food, Water, Shelter alternatives, Medicines, etc. Would you want to find out like these people did that the rescuers won't come in time to save you or your loved ones. I'm not going to trust myself or my loved ones to DHS/FEMA incompetence.
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Posted by: greentime on May 15, 2007 4:30 AM
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What a supremes waste of... everything.
What a sick fantasy from a people who have been led to the edge of the cliff by a bunch of macho bozos (on all sides) who are ready to yell jump.
Really, isn't there a higher calling for us lemmings, er... uh... humans?
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Posted by: Moonray on May 15, 2007 5:38 AM
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Meanwhile, the Bushies are planning a new generation of small nuclear bombs that would cost over $100 billion. And they're just itching to use some (and might, soon).
Yes, we should tighten our border security. And yes, terrorism is a real threat. But it's sad to see Americans responding like predictable little lemmings to these GOP tactics -- while Karl Rove laughs his ass off in the background.
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» RE: Don't fall for this neocon nuke-panic tactic
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» Don't fall for the leftie 'there-is-no-threat' crap
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» WHAT'S THE REAL THREAT? RE: Don't fall for the leftie 'there-is-no-threat' crap
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» Won't somebody please think of the feces?
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» RE: Look in the mirror Bob. . .
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» RE: Don't fall for this neocon nuke-panic tactic
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» Stop, stop, stop making it seem nothing
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» RE: live with it?
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» RE: When did liberals start saying there is "no threat" and comparing terrorism to car accidents?
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» RE: When did liberals start saying there is "no threat" and comparing terrorism to car accidents?
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» It's going to be an interesting next couple of decades, glad I live in D.C.! - N/T
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Posted by: Lincoln fan on May 15, 2007 6:01 AM
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Bob Reichenbach,
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Posted by: andrewstromotich on May 15, 2007 6:06 AM
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seriously.
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Posted by: chasaturn on May 15, 2007 7:35 AM
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Posted by: willymack on May 15, 2007 7:35 AM
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Posted by: Michael Boldin on May 15, 2007 7:45 AM
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The only way this will happen, is if the United States government pushes some country into such a corner that they have no choice but to retaliate. But, they won't report it that way - it'll be an "unprovoked terrorist massacre" or whatever they call it.
The reality is simple, there's virtually no country on earth that doesn't get pushed around by the USA. Enough invasions, and we can guarantee that someone will get revenge.
The best way to ensure peace in this country is not more military, not more preparations for disaster, but an immediate change of course.......to one where we no longer interfere with other countries, no longer invade nations, no longer prop up dictators with foreign aid, no longer kill millions of civilians, and on and on and on.
Some additional reading:
"A Foreign Policy for America"
http://www.populistamerica.com/a_foreign_policy_for_america
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» Great points in text...but silly title
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» Stop, drop, and dump
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Posted by: Bobsays on May 15, 2007 9:35 AM
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http://www.prisonplanet.com
The threats are real, they are not made up by Cheney (European governments take it seriously too), and we need to be taking counter measures.
Also read www.counterterrorismblog.org
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» You ignorance is showing
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Posted by: NamVeT on May 15, 2007 10:06 AM
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Posted by: TheTruthSeeker on May 15, 2007 10:17 AM
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Carrying a legitimate Spanish passport issued under an alias with a nonimmigrant visa for visiting the United States, Jose flies on Aero Mexico Flight 2, a Boeing 767-200, from Madrid to Mexico City, arriving as scheduled at 8:25 pm local time.
After a 90-minute layover, he’s back in the air again, this time on Aero Mexico Flight 180, ironically a Boeing 757 like the four jetliners hijacked by Al Qaeda on 9/11.
His destination is the Abelardo L. Rodríguez International Airport in Tijuana south of San Diego, less than 100 yards from the U.S.-Mexico barrier fence. But Jose won’t have to climb over the obstruction like Mexican illegals do. Purposively, he had planned his Tijuana arrival for Saturday night when foot-traffic at the official border crossing is the heaviest.
Following a short cab ride to the crossing station, after flashing his Spanish passport and visa to overworked U.S. Immigration authorities, Jose is waved into Southern California where two waiting Al Oaeda operatives pick him up in a Hertz Ford Tarus. Minutes later, at a commercial storage facility with 24 hour access, the evildoing threesome enter the private rental space and prepare an explosive vest with 15 pounds of dynamite.
On Monday morning, after a day of prayers to Mecca, wearing the TNT-laden undergarment beneath a jogging jacket, Jose rides with his Bin Laden buddies to downtown Los Angeles, buys a Metro ticket, takes the escalator downstairs and walks onto the passenger platform.
When the next train arrives -- BOOM!
By nightfall, the United States is more panicked than after 9/11. And all it took was one suicide bomber seeking Paradise, $700 in airline tickets, two Bin Laden followers in San Diego, 15 pounds of dynamite and a shattered subway station.
What would President Bush say with a bullhorn after that event? “Whoops?”
That scenario is child’s play compared to another realistic and infinitely more horrifying possibility -- substituting the suicide vest with a hand-carried, 60-pound suitcase atomic bomb like the kind we and Russia designed 25 years ago, equipped with a plutonium core smuggled out of North Korea.
You remember that evil-axis nation, don’t you? The one our almighty commander-in-chief swore would never have nuclear weapons.
For the TRUTH about Bumbling Bush and his incompetent neocon cabal, visit King-George.biz -- the only website with hardcopy proof of White House corruption.
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» FACT: The U.S. Army "Davie Crocket" W-54 atomic artillery shell has a selectable explosive...
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» So much for your "swan song" Hugh - lol, N/T
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Posted by: bob t on May 15, 2007 10:33 AM
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Either way if the Rethugs want it to happen it will happen. Ethics falls before fundamentalist ideology.
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Posted by: kungfoofighterx on May 15, 2007 10:34 AM
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I bet all the information anyone would ever need could be found by talking to emergency agency workers that work on massive earth quakes and forest fire fighters.
Does anyone know how long rescuers would have to wait to get near the blast area?. There has to be a formula out there some where. Didnt most of the fire fighters who put the fire out at Chernobyl die? I dont think plastic suits can protect against high energy radiation.
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Posted by: JoshuaLudd on May 15, 2007 11:09 AM
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Posted by: mikmojo06 on May 15, 2007 12:02 PM
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Posted by: cbishopp on May 15, 2007 12:02 PM
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It did not seem to help. In fact it hindered the ability of the military to deal with the actual terrorist attack.
A strange and frightening coincidence?
With all the disasters both natural and man made that have befallen this country since the Bush Administration took over I for one would like to see an ACTUAL DISASTER RESPONSE instead of wasting taxpayer money developing statistics that determine that (surprise) only the wealthy and well protected will survive a nuclear attack.
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Posted by: fanny666 on May 15, 2007 12:06 PM
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He cut funding that was keeping Soviet nuclear scientists employed.
Upon the invasion of Iraq he left unguarded the WMD stockpiles that the UN inspectors had been guarding... they were systematically looted (UN inspectors watched via satellite decades of their work loaded into trucks and taken... who knows?)
He has done the opposite of Article 6 of the Non-proliferation treaty. According to Art 6 Sec 2 of the Constitution, he is supposed to obey this treaty.
He has compelled N Korea and Iran to arm themselves, they know that WMDs are a deterrent to a US invasion.
Don't like it? Call your reps.
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Posted by: BJT on May 15, 2007 12:43 PM
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They were running an absurdly high number of hijacked-plane drills on 9/11.
They were running a multitude of bomb drills on the same day in the same places as the 7/7 London bombing.
Keep in mind drills are not spontaneous. Somebody plans them.
This is how false-flag terrorism works these days. Drills involve a mock-terror team and the counter-terror team. All it takes is for a higher-up to pull the trigger on the mock-terror team and kaboom.
Ready-made crisis, already pre-contained by the anti-terror team, so you can offer your solution to the panicking populace--if they only surrender a few more rights.
The Democrats would have done this already if any of them had the stones to attempt it. The neocon takeover of the Republican Party has given us a gang of criminals who don't care how many of us die as long as they get to rule over the smoldering ruins.
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Posted by: mcooley on May 15, 2007 1:23 PM
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Here are short videos to check out if you have not already heard about these "coincidences":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em_XyTeNA1g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha8Cy_0b2X4
http://tinyurl.com/y9ehd2 (short article)
Astounding right?
Google it all yourself.
Here's another short video clip to check out if you are still wondering why people are asking questions about 911:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ9BofDUXv0
(Be sure to notice what WTC Buildings 4,5, and 6 look like after the Twin Towers literally fell on top of them and they were gutted by fire - they were still standing).
If I still have your attention - please check out this very important film:
Oil Smoke and Mirrors:
http://tinyurl.com/quo78
and another:
http://tinyurl.com/2ao9vg
Also consider this recent WaPo article wherein they are "planning" for a nuke attack on DC ...and it sounds like (that pesky annoying?) Congress will be the only entity not preparing to survive. That would make deciderating even easier.
http://tinyurl.com/22ebr4
Please check out the above video links if you really care about what is happening to America.
This final video clip pretty much sums things up in a hauntingly beautiful but sobering message.
I challenge any true American Patriot to not shed a tear by watching the last half of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29MobP9lXE0
Thank you.
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Posted by: Ambrose Pare on May 15, 2007 2:51 PM
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I'm moving into the middle of nowhere, and going to live in a cave until this crazy junk is over.
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Posted by: Wayne119 on May 15, 2007 8:18 PM
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Really? I thought they were all overseas!
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Posted by: Roverton on May 15, 2007 8:26 PM
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I've got family who used to live near Three Mile Island when the whole thing erupted. My cousin knows about natural remedies and immediately got out the high density kelp Iodine liquid. She, her husband and her kids all drank a large spoonful. Evidently, it loads your kidneys and adrenals and keeps them from being fried in a large radiation burst.
The neighbors got sick but my cousin and her family are all fine to this day.
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Posted by: Mojoe on May 16, 2007 1:01 AM
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/ sarcastic shit.
The purpose for mass casualty drills is not to simulate an actual event that occurs, it is to ensure that individual elements are functioning properly. The reason they do a nuclear emergency is obvious; it is all encompassing. It's the same reason my hospital does one every 5th year involving a fire at a chemical plant. It ensures that every element of emergency response takes part.
There will be no nuclear attack on the United States, and if there is it'll be fake... like this one.
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Posted by: RoffleTheWaffle on May 15, 2007 3:31 AM
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We know already that your prospects for surviving a nuke are pretty slim if you're not in some kind of shelter to protect you from the blast and the radiation, and the last place you want to be when a bomb goes off is ground zero. You'd think we'd at least be able to dig a few people out before they've gone terminal, though.
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Posted by: sven on May 15, 2007 3:56 AM
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Bomb shelters against ICBMs from the USSR, I can understand. But for a terrorist attack?
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» I got my plastic sheet and my duct tape -- I'm good to go, baby!
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Posted by: gdonald on May 15, 2007 4:08 AM
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I didn't read where they even brought these temporary employees any lunch. I would say that we all should have learned a great deal from Katrina and from this article.
Get prepared yourselves in the event of any crisis. Food, Water, Shelter alternatives, Medicines, etc. Would you want to find out like these people did that the rescuers won't come in time to save you or your loved ones. I'm not going to trust myself or my loved ones to DHS/FEMA incompetence.
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Posted by: greentime on May 15, 2007 4:30 AM
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What a supremes waste of... everything.
What a sick fantasy from a people who have been led to the edge of the cliff by a bunch of macho bozos (on all sides) who are ready to yell jump.
Really, isn't there a higher calling for us lemmings, er... uh... humans?
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» Study and Practice?
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» RE: How about we simulate saving the planet instead? or just do it.
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Posted by: Moonray on May 15, 2007 5:38 AM
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Meanwhile, the Bushies are planning a new generation of small nuclear bombs that would cost over $100 billion. And they're just itching to use some (and might, soon).
Yes, we should tighten our border security. And yes, terrorism is a real threat. But it's sad to see Americans responding like predictable little lemmings to these GOP tactics -- while Karl Rove laughs his ass off in the background.
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» Stop, stop, stop making it seem nothing
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Posted by: Lincoln fan on May 15, 2007 6:01 AM
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Bob Reichenbach,
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seriously.
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Posted by: chasaturn on May 15, 2007 7:35 AM
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Posted by: willymack on May 15, 2007 7:35 AM
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Posted by: Michael Boldin on May 15, 2007 7:45 AM
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The only way this will happen, is if the United States government pushes some country into such a corner that they have no choice but to retaliate. But, they won't report it that way - it'll be an "unprovoked terrorist massacre" or whatever they call it.
The reality is simple, there's virtually no country on earth that doesn't get pushed around by the USA. Enough invasions, and we can guarantee that someone will get revenge.
The best way to ensure peace in this country is not more military, not more preparations for disaster, but an immediate change of course.......to one where we no longer interfere with other countries, no longer invade nations, no longer prop up dictators with foreign aid, no longer kill millions of civilians, and on and on and on.
Some additional reading:
"A Foreign Policy for America"
http://www.populistamerica.com/a_foreign_policy_for_america
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Posted by: rkm on May 15, 2007 8:27 AM
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Posted by: Bobsays on May 15, 2007 9:35 AM
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http://www.prisonplanet.com
The threats are real, they are not made up by Cheney (European governments take it seriously too), and we need to be taking counter measures.
Also read www.counterterrorismblog.org
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Posted by: NamVeT on May 15, 2007 10:06 AM
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Posted by: TheTruthSeeker on May 15, 2007 10:17 AM
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Carrying a legitimate Spanish passport issued under an alias with a nonimmigrant visa for visiting the United States, Jose flies on Aero Mexico Flight 2, a Boeing 767-200, from Madrid to Mexico City, arriving as scheduled at 8:25 pm local time.
After a 90-minute layover, he’s back in the air again, this time on Aero Mexico Flight 180, ironically a Boeing 757 like the four jetliners hijacked by Al Qaeda on 9/11.
His destination is the Abelardo L. Rodríguez International Airport in Tijuana south of San Diego, less than 100 yards from the U.S.-Mexico barrier fence. But Jose won’t have to climb over the obstruction like Mexican illegals do. Purposively, he had planned his Tijuana arrival for Saturday night when foot-traffic at the official border crossing is the heaviest.
Following a short cab ride to the crossing station, after flashing his Spanish passport and visa to overworked U.S. Immigration authorities, Jose is waved into Southern California where two waiting Al Oaeda operatives pick him up in a Hertz Ford Tarus. Minutes later, at a commercial storage facility with 24 hour access, the evildoing threesome enter the private rental space and prepare an explosive vest with 15 pounds of dynamite.
On Monday morning, after a day of prayers to Mecca, wearing the TNT-laden undergarment beneath a jogging jacket, Jose rides with his Bin Laden buddies to downtown Los Angeles, buys a Metro ticket, takes the escalator downstairs and walks onto the passenger platform.
When the next train arrives -- BOOM!
By nightfall, the United States is more panicked than after 9/11. And all it took was one suicide bomber seeking Paradise, $700 in airline tickets, two Bin Laden followers in San Diego, 15 pounds of dynamite and a shattered subway station.
What would President Bush say with a bullhorn after that event? “Whoops?”
That scenario is child’s play compared to another realistic and infinitely more horrifying possibility -- substituting the suicide vest with a hand-carried, 60-pound suitcase atomic bomb like the kind we and Russia designed 25 years ago, equipped with a plutonium core smuggled out of North Korea.
You remember that evil-axis nation, don’t you? The one our almighty commander-in-chief swore would never have nuclear weapons.
For the TRUTH about Bumbling Bush and his incompetent neocon cabal, visit King-George.biz -- the only website with hardcopy proof of White House corruption.
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Posted by: bob t on May 15, 2007 10:33 AM
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Either way if the Rethugs want it to happen it will happen. Ethics falls before fundamentalist ideology.
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Posted by: kungfoofighterx on May 15, 2007 10:34 AM
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I bet all the information anyone would ever need could be found by talking to emergency agency workers that work on massive earth quakes and forest fire fighters.
Does anyone know how long rescuers would have to wait to get near the blast area?. There has to be a formula out there some where. Didnt most of the fire fighters who put the fire out at Chernobyl die? I dont think plastic suits can protect against high energy radiation.
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Posted by: mikmojo06 on May 15, 2007 12:02 PM
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Posted by: cbishopp on May 15, 2007 12:02 PM
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It did not seem to help. In fact it hindered the ability of the military to deal with the actual terrorist attack.
A strange and frightening coincidence?
With all the disasters both natural and man made that have befallen this country since the Bush Administration took over I for one would like to see an ACTUAL DISASTER RESPONSE instead of wasting taxpayer money developing statistics that determine that (surprise) only the wealthy and well protected will survive a nuclear attack.
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Posted by: fanny666 on May 15, 2007 12:06 PM
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He cut funding that was keeping Soviet nuclear scientists employed.
Upon the invasion of Iraq he left unguarded the WMD stockpiles that the UN inspectors had been guarding... they were systematically looted (UN inspectors watched via satellite decades of their work loaded into trucks and taken... who knows?)
He has done the opposite of Article 6 of the Non-proliferation treaty. According to Art 6 Sec 2 of the Constitution, he is supposed to obey this treaty.
He has compelled N Korea and Iran to arm themselves, they know that WMDs are a deterrent to a US invasion.
Don't like it? Call your reps.
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Posted by: BJT on May 15, 2007 12:43 PM
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They were running an absurdly high number of hijacked-plane drills on 9/11.
They were running a multitude of bomb drills on the same day in the same places as the 7/7 London bombing.
Keep in mind drills are not spontaneous. Somebody plans them.
This is how false-flag terrorism works these days. Drills involve a mock-terror team and the counter-terror team. All it takes is for a higher-up to pull the trigger on the mock-terror team and kaboom.
Ready-made crisis, already pre-contained by the anti-terror team, so you can offer your solution to the panicking populace--if they only surrender a few more rights.
The Democrats would have done this already if any of them had the stones to attempt it. The neocon takeover of the Republican Party has given us a gang of criminals who don't care how many of us die as long as they get to rule over the smoldering ruins.
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Posted by: mcooley on May 15, 2007 1:23 PM
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Here are short videos to check out if you have not already heard about these "coincidences":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em_XyTeNA1g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha8Cy_0b2X4
http://tinyurl.com/y9ehd2 (short article)
Astounding right?
Google it all yourself.
Here's another short video clip to check out if you are still wondering why people are asking questions about 911:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ9BofDUXv0
(Be sure to notice what WTC Buildings 4,5, and 6 look like after the Twin Towers literally fell on top of them and they were gutted by fire - they were still standing).
If I still have your attention - please check out this very important film:
Oil Smoke and Mirrors:
http://tinyurl.com/quo78
and another:
http://tinyurl.com/2ao9vg
Also consider this recent WaPo article wherein they are "planning" for a nuke attack on DC ...and it sounds like (that pesky annoying?) Congress will be the only entity not preparing to survive. That would make deciderating even easier.
http://tinyurl.com/22ebr4
Please check out the above video links if you really care about what is happening to America.
This final video clip pretty much sums things up in a hauntingly beautiful but sobering message.
I challenge any true American Patriot to not shed a tear by watching the last half of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29MobP9lXE0
Thank you.
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Posted by: Ambrose Pare on May 15, 2007 2:51 PM
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I'm moving into the middle of nowhere, and going to live in a cave until this crazy junk is over.
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Posted by: Wayne119 on May 15, 2007 8:18 PM
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Really? I thought they were all overseas!
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Posted by: Roverton on May 15, 2007 8:26 PM
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I've got family who used to live near Three Mile Island when the whole thing erupted. My cousin knows about natural remedies and immediately got out the high density kelp Iodine liquid. She, her husband and her kids all drank a large spoonful. Evidently, it loads your kidneys and adrenals and keeps them from being fried in a large radiation burst.
The neighbors got sick but my cousin and her family are all fine to this day.
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Posted by: Mojoe on May 16, 2007 1:01 AM
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/ sarcastic shit.
The purpose for mass casualty drills is not to simulate an actual event that occurs, it is to ensure that individual elements are functioning properly. The reason they do a nuclear emergency is obvious; it is all encompassing. It's the same reason my hospital does one every 5th year involving a fire at a chemical plant. It ensures that every element of emergency response takes part.
There will be no nuclear attack on the United States, and if there is it'll be fake... like this one.
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