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Many Whites Still Smugly Tie Their Racial Blinders Tight

By Earl Ofari Hutchinson, New America Media. Posted May 14, 2007.


Too many liberals bash Bush policies, cheer Michael Moore, and swoon over Obama, yet see absolutely no harm in racial stereotypes, especially anti-black stereotypes.

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The instant my post went up on the terribly dated and even more terribly racially stereotypical Disney film, Song of the South, the howls of protest against me started with a vengeance.

Disney hinted in March that it might release the film for DVD and home video sale. I condemned the film for depicting blacks as happy-go-lucky, singing, dancing, and always compliant to whites. I did not, however, call on Disney to dump the film. The call was simply that if they release it to put a disclaimer or warning in it that the images may be offensive to some.

I made it clear that the film had some value for collectors, film buffs, lovers of African folktales, historians, and those that legitimately want to use it to educate on the peril of racial stereotypes. That didn't matter the floodgates were wide open.

Some complained that keeping the film off the market was censorship. That wasn't troubling. What was troubling, though, was the blind rush by the respondents to justify, ignore, gloss over, or flat out defend negative racial typecasting of blacks. These posts weren't on the Fox network's or a conservative website. They were on Alternet, the Huffington Post, and other liberal, progressive sites.

Those that read and post on these sites are more likely young, white, and consider themselves the most socially and politically enlightened. They feverishly bash Bush policies, cheer Michael Moore, and swoon over Obama, unabashedly back environmental, gay rights, immigration reform, and indigenous struggles for land and reform in Latin America. Yet, they see absolutely no harm in racial stereotypes, especially anti-black stereotypes.

Is it ignorance, confusion, racial denial, or closet bigotry? It's all of the above. There are several compelling hints that the racial blinders are tied chokingly tight on many whites, particularly young whites. Many of those that passionately defended Song of the South on the websites said they weren't born when the film came out in 1946 or were young when they saw it in the 1970s or 1980s).

One, is the wave of fraternities that in the past year have been called on the carpet for mocking black notables and rappers, holding slave auctions, minstrel shows, displaying the Confederate flag in front of frat dorms, and for their members sporting the flag on tee shirts. This was not merely a free speech issue, or a case of zany college kids making utter fools of each other.

This was blatant racial slander, and should have been severely punished. But many students at the universities lambasted the criticism of the frats as political correctness gone awry.

A CNN poll last December gave another hint of the pronounced blind spot of many whites. The poll focused exclusively on black and white racial attitudes. A substantial number of blacks and whites said that race is still alive and well in the country, but they pointed the blame finger at others for being racists, not themselves. Then in the next breath, whites said that too much ado is made of race, while blacks said the opposite.

Then there was the Don Imus flap. Polls showed that the racial divide on how Imus should have been handled was alive and well. The overwhelming majority of blacks screamed loudly for Imus's scalp. A majority of whites though waffled, and cavalierly dismissed his statements as a right to free speech, or insisted that a hand slap suspension was enough.

The tom, coon, and mammy images of blacks have been a linchpin of America's shameful racial past and by no means have they been tossed into the historical dustbin. The clue to why the old racial stereotypes defy extinction is to examine they way they were heaped on blacks in the past and how they continue to be subtly and not so subtly recycled today in the endless stories on black crime, gangs, and dysfunctional families.

Over time the ancient racial stereotypes have been confirmed, validated and deepened until they have taken on a life of their own. This reinforces the belief of many whites that most blacks neatly fit the stereotypes. The exceptions such as Obama or Oprah Winfrey are eagerly embraced precisely because they are warm, cuddly, safe and non-threatening. This is not a knock at either of them. They are only the projection by many whites of how blacks should comport themselves to be acceptable.

The Uncle Remus character in Song of the South did the same and was much beloved (on the screen that is). Legions of whites wallow in these resonant anti-black stereotypes, con themselves that they're harmless, and shrug off the complaints from blacks over old racially insulting films such as Song of South as racial overreaction. That kind of talk proves that far too many whites still take smug comfort in their tightly wrapped racial blinders.

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Earl Ofari Hutchinson is a political analyst and social issues commentator, and the author of the book, The Emerging Black GOP Majority (Middle Passage Press, September 2006), a hard-hitting look at Bush and the GOP's court of black voters.

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Lawd..Lawd..another miracle this heah mornin'........
Posted by: ekipnrut on May 14, 2007 12:01 PM   
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Dr.Hutchinsion and I in complete agreement... :O)

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Thanks for offering up some bigotry of your own.
Posted by: tweedster on May 14, 2007 12:03 PM   
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After reading this article Mr. Hutchinson, I felt that the following statement could be modified to depict how you view the "target" of this piece:

Over time the ancient racial stereotypes have been confirmed, validated and deepened until they have taken on a life of their own. This reinforces the belief of many blacks that most whites neatly fit the stereotypes.

Translation: Most, all(?), many young whites are secretly racists.

Mr. Ofari, in this article you seem to demonstrate the same ability to make sweeping generalizations that you lambaste the "many whites" of making based on poll numbers concerning Imus (as an aside, might I ask whom was polled? what was the demographic of the respondents? what was the polling size?) and responses to a prior article of yours on Alternet and other progressive sites. Of course, the decision to rerelease Song of the South was most likely not made by the demographic that you, fairly or not (because really, where are your hard statistics here?), chastise in this article, but it is another oppurtunity for you to churn out an article decrying the state of race relations in America without really touching on possible solutions. The idea of a warning label seems like a sensible one concerning possibly offensive content, however, it is presented in the beginning of an article as a refesher to the piece that received the criticism you erroneously attribute to most, or many, young white people and not as any type of solution in regards to the issue of the "many" young white who are racists, if only deep down inside.

You also point out the acts of fraternities on college campuses as another barometer of young white bigotry. Might I ask what the ratio is between young whites involved in the fraternities in question, the total number of whites in college currently, AND the number of white youths in the country as a whole? Well? My guess is that the number of frat members pales to the other numbers as a whole and it's inclusion as an indicating factor of racism among young whites is inherantly skewed.

In regards to the polls you don't cite, but mention, concerning race in America, I again ask you; what were the demographics involved in the polls? where were the people involved in the polling located? were they from rural, isolated (read:non-diverse) areas, or metropolitan areas with amazing diversity? I imagine those answers dent your argumentm, or more accurately, your ASSERTION, that MANY young whites are indeed bigots at heart.

That kind of talk proves that far too many whites still take smug comfort in their tightly wrapped racial blinders.

The kind of talk this article engages in offers nothing in the way of solutions for any of the problems you brought up in regards to the polls and the frat activities. It is smug in it's certainty and is destructive in it's language. Speaking as young white male who grew up attending local schools where I picked up phrases in Portugese, Spanish and Creole from my friends and classmates and who attended college in Queens, NYC (one of the most diverse places on the planet), it is disheartening that you would engage in the same smear of a race, and a particular generation, in response to what you feel is being perpetrated against your own ethnic community.

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» Que sera sera Posted by: tweedster
» Well, to be clear... Posted by: tweedster
Mr. Hutchinson, My Civil Rights Were Violated Last Friday
Posted by: hole11 on May 14, 2007 12:21 PM   
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Get the scoop. Whatever you are clamoring about that happened 40 years ago is happening to me today. Funny isn't it?

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» Not Based On My IQ Posted by: hole11
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» As Usual It Will Be Dropped Posted by: hole11
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Project the projection
Posted by: tweedster on May 14, 2007 12:33 PM   
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The exceptions such as Obama or Oprah Winfrey are eagerly embraced precisely because they are warm, cuddly, safe and non-threatening. This is not a knock at either of them. They are only the projection by many whites of how blacks should comport themselves to be acceptable.

Antonyms:

Warm - Cool
Cuddly - Prickly
Safe - Dangerous
Non-threatening...Threatening?

I thought those were traits that most everyone should comport themselves to be considered acceptable?

Project your projections Mr. Ofari, while offering no solutions - irresponsible.

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Still all my fault
Posted by: huels3000 on May 14, 2007 12:55 PM   
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A letter to the author.......This subject has me chasing my tail. I grew up in the 70s, and saw S.O.S. in 1978 at the movies. Yes, I'm white, male, and middle class. Even in elementary school I saw that Uncle R. probably wasn't actually “happy go lucky", but I loved him. Just like I loved Uncle Tom, or Jim with Huck. I felt compassion, I felt hurt, and I felt responsible. But like the majority of Americans then and now, NO member of my family ever owned a slave. My Irish great-grandpa experiences his level of racism, bigotry, and stereotypes. I'm a teacher in a southern, urban, African-American community. I experience racial stereo types aimed at me daily. Like, “all whites are rich, we are all racist, we all owned slaves”, etc. One parent even told her child that "all white people smell." So maybe we should ban all movies that depict whites as racial assholes. Don't they create a stereotype? Will my sons grow up carrying the blame of whites they have no connection with. Should I start a blog saying that Roots, Uncle Toms Cabin, or North and South should be banned because of the racial content. My students have inherited a hatred for me because of my color. Is that the medias fault? Some ass from “Mississippi Burning”? I try everyday to show that this “white guy” gives a damn, wants every American to stop blaming everyone else, and take some responsibility. Though I witness, everyday, cultural consistencies with my students, I look beyond the often justified stereotypes, and shine a light on the opportunities, not who to blame. Unfortunately there stereotypes leave me with an uphill battle. Leave Uncle R. alone and write about that. Write a piece on the racism that seems to be justified among my black-majority students. Seems to me that too much time is spent point fingers backwards, then pushing us forward. Once again it’s round and round. I consistently read your articles, and you are an informed and intelligent writer. I would like to see more of your skills venture away from racial topics. But that just the way I call it.

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» The pain game Posted by: moflard
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Who am I?
Posted by: WintersThrall on May 14, 2007 2:57 PM   
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It is my opinion that racism today is actually born of cultural intolerance, and is no longer about the color of a person's skin. It is about self-image, self-identification: I belong to a certain group and identify as having these opportunities, but not these; people of this other cultural group will keep me down etc. etc.

I won't say that racism doesn't exist, because I've seen it. What I will say, with some measure of confidence, is that it's not a shaping force in our society, at least the one I live in on the East Coast.

Furthermore, racism is a symptom of, and originates in, ignorance.

If it bothers you to see it (ignorance that is), I suggest you divert your energies into educating people, or into enabling access to education, so that people may be empowered to change that about themselves which is holding them back.

We need to see the world the way it is, and act in it the way that we wish it to be; not dwell on the past.

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Me think thou dast protest too much...
Posted by: texshelters on May 14, 2007 3:01 PM   
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Yo, white folks!

What are you talking about? First you misqute the author, then you call him racist using your misquote. The author never said "all white folks", he said "many white folks" which in my experience is true. What are you all so uppidity about? I guess it hurts to be called racist, huh?

We have to face this issue of race. Racism is real, and no amount of justification or accusations of others will get rid of racism in our society. Yes, all "racial" groups are racist. Does that justify white racism?

As a fellow white person, I am embarrassed that people might lump me in with you. Get over yourselves and listen to what others might have to say about race. You might learn to have some empathy.

Peace,
Joe Tex

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Progressive Citizen
Posted by: Progressive Citizen on May 14, 2007 6:31 PM   
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Mr. Hutchinson is basically on point. Too many white people, even self-proclaimed progressives and liberals, want to see themselves above racial bias even as they partake of it--which is all too easy to do in this culture if you see yourself apart from or above racial issues.

Please note I am not saying that all white people do this, or that black people cannot unfairly stereotype white people. Not to mention that racial issues are far from black and white (in both a Hispanic-Asian-Arab sense and a "most things have a fair bit of gray" sense).

Racism in this day and age generally is not overt. It is born of habits and unexamined ways of doing things, and of thinking. In short, it shares much in common with sexism, which many progressives--although not enough--have analyzed thoughtfully. In large part this is because women and men interact more in everyday life than blacks and whites do. Nevertheless, it has mostly been female progressives that tackle sexism and progressives of color (black, Hispanic, Asian, Arab, etc.) that take on racism.

Too many white progressives fall into the trap of feeling guilty when racism beyond the overt is mentioned, because they think "this might be something akin to what I am doing, what I am thinking." And that doesn't square with their self-image as a liberal...well, because ingrained racial prejudice isn't very liberal, and doesn't feel very good to someone who thinks of himself or herself as a decent, caring individual. Then they would rather deny that stereotypes matter, and you get results like people going out of their way to defend Song of the South with all of its pernicious, patronizing yet cuddly, comforting and cute racism, and implying that someone who calls the film racist is being a censor.

And that is the essence of blinders.

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» Some elaboration on my original post... Posted by: Progressive Citizen
Yo Joe Tex!
Posted by: tweedster on May 15, 2007 6:29 AM   
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Yo Joe Tex,

I didn't misquote the author, I merely hyperbolized that phrase because it is a slippery slope once people start making generalizations. Most becomes all and a stereotype is born.

At least that was the point I was trying to illustrate - sorry if it was a convoluted way of doing so.

I'm not lumping myself in with you, and I didn't assert anything about the author that he wasn't willing to do to the MAJORITY of young white people. Maybe he is correct, but I'm not in that majority and I take offense to the stereotype.

Get it?

Peace,
Iain Tweedy

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As a young immigrant I say
Posted by: apeshow on May 15, 2007 6:29 AM   
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I came to the US at 5 years old, lived in very poor mostly black neighborhoods and went to mostly black schools for the majority of my public education. Is it racism for me to talk about the disturbing things I saw among inner city blacks? Wasn't I as the child of poor immigrants at a disadvantage to these English speakers? Yet many of these kids fit or grew into the stereotypes that hip hop music glorifies yet call racism if pointed out. Don't get me wrong, I have black friends and as a latino I've personally experienced racism, but "nigger" is a term for a cultural CHOICE not skin color. Just like redneck is so easily thown around when referring to ignorant whites. Give up the victim mentality and have some respect for yourselves and others will start to as well.

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» RE: As a young immigrant I say Posted by: xconservative
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Article Fans Flames Of Hate
Posted by: LiberalRedneck on May 15, 2007 8:30 AM   
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"...displaying the Confederate flag in front of frat dorms, and for their members sporting the flag on tee shirts. This was not merely a free speech issue, or a case of zany college kids making utter fools of each other. This was blatant racial slander, and should have been severely punished. The author obviously is against freedom of speech. According to him, speech is only free if agree with him. His thesis Confederacy = racism is very simplistic thinking. Since when is wearing a tshirt an act to deserve being "severely punished"? Excuse me, it was and is a free speech issue. Earl Ofari Hutchinson is doing everything he can to keep the racial divide alive and well. I am sure he would have me arrested if he could for wearing my Confederate tshirt. OK, you can start attacking me and calling me a racist now. The level of hate at AlterNet equals the level of hate at the ultra right wing sites.

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YO....YO..drm...xcon...you all are........
Posted by: ekipnrut on May 15, 2007 3:11 PM   
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trying to argue with common sense and logic in the context of a fact based reality...the racists on this thread?....they ain't feelin' that shit....it would take a serious 'reginald denny experience'
just to get their attention....just that much....but you guys keep with the Jimi Hendrix in spirit/Oxford debate in form approach....
it's all good... :O)
PS..if you see 'hoe' around...spot him a twenty...I mean we KNOW he due for yet another 'episode'.... :O)

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» Contradictory Posted by: tweedster
I'm still lost
Posted by: kepstein7777 on May 15, 2007 3:50 PM   
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How about this? To avoid confusion among white people, what if Earl were to publish a list of acceptable black movies, entertainers, characters, etc. in his next column?

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» RE: Sooooo......... Posted by: ekipnrut
» And while he's at it, Posted by: xconservative
Cognitive Dissonance
Posted by: stagolee on May 15, 2007 4:54 PM   
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Simply put, the starting point (Bro. Hutch's two most recent articles) and the resulting skullduggery reinforces why, years ago, I decided to cease discussing matters of race / identity with white Americans.

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Alright
Posted by: Logic's Edge on May 16, 2007 12:23 AM   
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Ok.

Now here's an idea. How about an article about non-white racism?

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» RE: Alright Posted by: stagolee
Ah, a month on Alternet has driven me back to the Republican party
Posted by: ateo on May 16, 2007 4:17 AM   
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I'm sick and tired of all the white male bashing and unwilling to play the part of the apologetic white liberal. I've been leaning towards the Democrats/liberals for the past 5 years or so but a couple of months reading Alternet and the commentary was all it took to remind me why I voted Republican in the first place - liberals pander to any special interest that hates white males.

Voting for the Republicans gets me high paying jobs in the defense industry whereas voting for the Democrats gets me laid off, my tax money going to pay reparations to people who may or may not have had a slave ancestor over 100 years ago, a completely dysfunctional education system, affirmative action to give anyone who isn't a white male jobs/college education ahead of me even though I'm more qualified etc.

Oh yes, I'm glad I voted for Bush in 2000.

Democrats = the party that will destroy white males by any means possible.

Republicans = give everyone their fair chance and may the best man win.

You've made the choice very simple. Why throw my hat in with people who hate me because I was born a certain race/gender combination? That's utter lunacy.

People like the author of this article just can't stand the fact that, all things being equal, white males tend to come out on top and have for all of human history. It's a real pain this whole "nature" thing we have to deal with - ties in with another concept called "reality", you all may want to look into it. Or you can keep repeating the tired old myth that the only reason white males have dominated the world for the past several thousand years is through oppression of other races and women. If you say it enough someone might even start to believe it.

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» Where are all things equal? Posted by: mcubed
» RE: Where are all things equal? Posted by: xconservative
White supremacists have been selling Song of the South for years
Posted by: nc green on May 16, 2007 5:55 AM   
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White supremacists and Confederate utopists here in North Carolina, including a brother of a friend of mine, are still selling the videotape of Song of the South, presumably as an example of what the South should be like (but, of course, never was).

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it, Dinesh d'Souza.

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Boy, make a liberal feel guilty!
Posted by: nc green on May 16, 2007 6:37 AM   
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And you get some serious backlash.

Why don't all you flame-throwers take a few hours to read an actual slave narrative? Then maybe you'd understand why Song of the South is an offensive piece of tripe.

Or, you could just sit down with the movie and get your delusional happy on. "There's no place like home. There's no place like home. There's no place like home."

Better yet, just keep telling people they have no right be offended. That'll make things better. "I'm not a racist. I'm not a racist. I'm not a racist."

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Get over it
Posted by: pg on May 16, 2007 12:07 PM   
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Until the world stops classifying people as BLACK/WHITE and sees PEOPLE as PEOPLE the problem is never going away.

Your article is the type that perpetuates the problem.

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» Let me guess Posted by: xconservative
right on
Posted by: bemf on May 16, 2007 1:04 PM   
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This was right on point! So many white folks, especially in the "progressive" political scene, are completely blind to the realities of racism and how it shapes politics and society in the US.

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Applies to Native Americans too
Posted by: robschmidt on May 16, 2007 1:05 PM   
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The same applies to Native American stereotypes. The majority of Americans, including liberals, gasp at the word "nigger" but see no problem cheering the Washington Redskins, the Cleveland Indians' Chief Wahoo, or the University of Illinois's Chief Illiniwek. They ignore the Native stereotypes around them even while proclaiming their abhorrence of racism and stereotyping.

See http://www.bluecorncomics.com/stertype.htm for more on the subject.

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Ah the beauty of not being born into an oppressed group pt.1
Posted by: mobile68 on May 16, 2007 5:04 PM   
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The fact is that so many of us of color are sick and tired of being sick and tired. We are sick of the casual racism. We are tired of the smirking, drive-by sexism. We are done with people who make their living by selling the idea that some people are less human than others. We are fed up with the politics of division and hate. We are the majority in this country, but are often entirely without voice.

Vulnerability has been the saving grace of the African American struggle as we have been whipped, jailed, spat upon, called names, and killed, yet continue to strive forward mostly non-violently towards our highest goals.

The following excuses from you white privileged folks such as:
-I didn’t have anything to do with slavery,
-My family wasn’t in America then (read article “How America's Immigrants
Became White” by Seth Sandronsky Wednesday, 16 May 2007 http://www.blackagendareport.com),
-Our family was poor back then, and
-Our ancestors were sharecroppers.

Does not release one of corresponding guilt. While your family didn’t own slaves, etc. etc., the current generation has benefited by the Jim Crow laws, attitudes and mindset that protected their group at the continual detriment of all those slaves freed up after the Civil War.

A perfect example of how the past continues into the present, let’s look at the drug problem in this phony war on drugs the gov’t has launched. Drugs in the black communities can serve several purposes: It keeps mostly white law enforcement officers employed along with funding so-called drug intervention programs that are not designed to cure but rather pacify and cultivate the problem. Without a need for law enforcement type jobs whether they be detectives, cops etc, imagine the white community economy would be affected not to mention the jobs that would be lost.
As long as drugs can be promoted as a black problem along with criminalizing that community, this means that the white community will continue to have more value and respect in the form of deceiving the world into believing the drug problem in America comes from the black community.


For you white people who keep wondering, “instead of you people complaining and blaming others for your plight, why don’t use your energies to seek solutions to your predicament?” Ask yourself these questions:

-According you white people, since race is no longer an issue in 2007, then why do Barack Obama need xtra security in 2007 more than the other obvious white presidential candidates?

-Why doesn’t anyone ask the jews why do they keep using the holocaust as a crutch and not employing non-violent means to achieve peace with the Palestinians like most African-Americans did during the civil rights movement?

-Why was the system of race classification put into practice?

-Who are the benefactors of a system based on race classification and so-called racial superiority?

-Why haven't effective solutions been formulated to educate the origins of alleged racial superiority, and to eradicate this tainted notion?

-Why doesn’t anyone ask the jews why do they keep using the holocaust as a crutch and not employing non-violent means to achieve peace with the Palestinians like most African-Americans did during the civil rights movement?

-Are the problems of racial strife and the notion of assumed racial superiority genuine in American society? Then, to knowingly benefit from a decadent system predicated on hypothetical racial superiority and do nothing about it, makes that person part of the problem, not the solution.

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» Excellent Reply....!!! Posted by: ekipnrut
» If that's such a great idea, Posted by: xconservative
» Now...Just How did I know that Posted by: ekipnrut
Ah the beauty of not being born into an oppressed group pt.2
Posted by: mobile68 on May 16, 2007 5:15 PM   
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The effects of white racism are global and systemic. There is no way to hide from it--no safe haven from it; it cannot be finessed or seduced-either analytically or existentially. Attempts to do so, just makes the analyst a part of the problem-that is a part of white collective denial about the collection of closed white superiority myths.

Anyone who thinks that has missed the real lessons of Nazi Germany, Apartheid South Africa and American Southern Reconstruction. These are the blacks who will be the most threatening to a weak white self-concept. As in Nazi Germany, the successful ones will be the ones most detested. We cannot forget, that white fantasy no matter how powerful and dominant is still not reality.
Just as there was no "Jewish problem" in Nazi Germany there is no "black problem" in America. There is only a white problem. Once that problem is solved, we will all be free.

The snake in America's bosom-white racism--must be confronted and slain, otherwise nothing that is not blonde and blue-eyed is safe. White racism is the gravity that holds a flawed white identity together; it is the glue that holds together a dying and corrupt system; it cannot be appeased by either good or bad black strategies because it remains unaffected by them. It must be confronted, and then confronted some more.

Moreover, rather than crying foul or reverse racism over diversity in action programs which are still essential in America's racially polarized society, or at the slightest advancement of people of color - more specifically, African Americans over their Caucasian counterparts - it is incumbent upon the progenitors of this disease to actively participate in extinguishing it. Ideas of racial supremacy were born solely out of European ideals and cultural practices, coupled with the proclivity for self-preservation, at the expense of the human family. America and the rest of the European world can no longer present themselves as moral beacons without putting forth concrete measures to eradicate the pseudo-scientific philosophy and practices of racism in the 21st century.
It's the ignorance that offends me most because its voluntary and a commitment not to know the truth.

Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings -- that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.
-Buddha


You cannot become true Americans if you think of yourselves in groups. A man who thinks of himself as belonging to a particular national group in America has not yet become an American. And a man who goes among you to trade on your nationality is not worthy to live under the Stars and Stripes. -Woodrow Wilson

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» white devils Posted by: tweedster
» I haven't change my position at all Posted by: xconservative
» Thanks for the research. Posted by: moflard
» So why all the fuss, then? Posted by: xconservative
» And so the insults begin... Posted by: moflard
» Oh, puhleeze, Posted by: xconservative
ButtinskyORama on Alternet!!! EKIP, here's the pudding for my proof
Posted by: tweedster on May 17, 2007 7:24 AM   
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Is your name drmflorida or xconservative????? Dammnnn....ButtinskyORama on Alternet!!!
Posted by: ekipnrut on May 16, 2007 12:27 PM
1) Ummmm.... NOOOOOOO. your assessment is neither 'fair' nor accurate

Really Ekip? Here is what I based that assumption on...

Ekip posts:
The oppressed group can be bigoted...prejudiced...resentful...all perfectly predictable and understandable reactions to their condition of oppression. However being a functioning racist requires the wherewithal to impact the lives of the 'targeted' with little or no consequence.
My assessment:
I guess this is your justification for being racist while not being racist because the balance of power is not in your favor when dealing with society at large (its institutions especially)? Although in individual, one-on-one cases the power balance of society can be thrown out the window (see Reginald Denny - wrong place, wrong time), which is why it is racist for YOU to accuse ME of being a bigot. Yes, I exist as privileged in a racist society, but I am not going to take seriously a man who cannot separate the tree from the forest.
Ekip posts:
You whites are categorically racist..'eight to eighty'.
My assessment:
You go on to give a justification for this as well, which again is only awash with stereotyping, I didn't even bother to directly cite your implication of inherent racism, but you know what you posted already...SO here is the conclusion I reached from your posts, and those lines I cited in particular:

According to your common sense, we're all racists here brother.
I was born one. You were born one because I was born one. You made the excuse for your racism though, since it is a natural reaction to being oppressed. I was born a racist because I was born white. Is that a fair assessment?

Based on what you wrote, I submit that yes, it is a fair assessment of your view on this matter. Don't bother trying to downplay my reading comprehension, your own misunderstanding of what you directed at me is here for you to see and digest. You'll probably just call me racist again. It seems to be your fall back in dealing with me. As for being a buttinsky, that is how I get when people make ill-informed comments about WHO I AM. You don't know me, you conflated me and my views with the attitudes of ALL whites, and you are wrong to do so.

Game over. How can we move forward is my question to you?

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The power of words
Posted by: tweedster on May 17, 2007 7:54 AM   
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Amazing that quote came from Woodrow Wilson, who wasn't the most open-minded of individuals when it came to race.

Being white and inherently guilty of the sins of my fathers, I have found that to demolish that white self-concept you refer, whites must forgive themselves in the present for the world our ancestors left us, and not be ashamed to chastise our past. The denial and guilt stems from the fact, I would like to believe, that we know what happened before was wrong, and although we weren't participants we are recipients of the "benefits" of racism.

Since the construct is so all-encompassing to begin to recognize that our forefather's were raised with hate ingrained and that while we may love our Great Great Grandmothers, she was wrong in how she viewed the world. Instead of seeing things merely in "black & white" (pun not intended), we need to realize that we are guilt ridden simply because we attempt to crystalize our past as something good overall that has led to something good for us now. Except that it is not good for us to elevate our communities when we share the same air, water and land with every living thing around us.

I don't know what to do other than to strive for an understanding of self and promote that to others. Then I think we can move ahead of the poisonous group-think that grips societies.

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» One more thing EKIP Posted by: tweedster
Too late...
Posted by: tweedster on May 17, 2007 8:28 AM   
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To try and reverse the course of history through repatriation is something that has been tried. Marcus Garvey was successful to the point where he became to successful and the White power structure started messing with him. I need to read more on him, but that's my general impression of the Black Star Line.

Anyway, that being said, while the strengthening and cohesion of black community is vital, it is short sighted not to advance EVERYONE'S mindset in this regard and achieve real, genuine, integration.

This of course wouldn't play well with the power structure which aims to keep poor people fighting each other over the scraps they leave for us. This puts people in a position where it is easy to fall back on hate as a reason for their lot in life.

We need a way forward for all of us.

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A Race War beckons in America De Toqueville, Jefferson and others always knew
Posted by: neosoul on May 17, 2007 8:49 AM   
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That Blacks and Whites in this country would never get along in brotherhood and love of country. Whites would never let go of their racial privledge and would always hold African- Americans to the status of savages and that has come to pass even after Slavery, Reconstruction and the Civil Rights movement. White Americans can use other "model minorities" to keep her Union together while still expoliting it's black citizens but in the end it's a fool's folly. But you don't have to hear it from me these were the words of Alexis De Toqueville and Thomas Jefferson who knew of the "avenging angel of race" where she would reap her vengance and destroy America herself.

Both of these learned white men who thought African- Americans were inferior knew that America created humanity's greatest sin by not only enslaving them but creating a social, politcal, medical, and moral construct that ran counter to it's ideas of it's constituional republic and knew even if Slavery fell Americans of African desecent could never go back to Africa and unlike other groups would always viewed as a savage. Andrew Hacker's book Two nations separate hostile and unequal breaks down America's race problem honestly without the phony colorblindness existing on this board by white liberals and conservatives.

DeToqueville and Jefferson always knew that the Black Slave and/or future generations of would never forgive or forget what was done and would overcome their suffering and have the rage of generations that could destroy this country. Jim Crow, terrorist acts upon black populations and politcal and ecomonic explotation would eventually give way to a war and it's won't be some Skinhead, National Front or Black Gang war it will be as random and UNPREDICTABLE as a Cho or 9-11 bombing. Race was America's first sin and her failure to correct it through the generataions is the reason many of us on this board fail to see any reasonable conversations can be had. I agree with Stagolee, for Black folks to get their sanity we have to separate from the white population.

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Reading is a useful skill
Posted by: terihu on May 17, 2007 11:38 AM   
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As I recall, Hutchinson's original article did NOT say Song of the South should be banned or even boycotted, just that it was irresponsible if Disney was going to march out an edition with zero additional context to explain the hows, whys, and whens of the movie. His whole point--as I understood it--was to raise awareness of the impending release, and encourage people to pressure Disney to do right by their audience.

What on earth is there to disagree with on that position?

If Disney wants to make money on this product, they owe it to humanity at large to offer some background information, historical context, and to some degree, a mea culpa.

Ironically, if they DID come up with a documentary and stick it in the bonus materials, most people would never watch it.

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