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Trained to Harm: How the Military Abuses Its Own

By JoAnn Wypijewski, The Washington Spectator. Posted May 10, 2007.


In the Army, being injured makes one deserving of cruelty.
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Accidents," Alexander Cockburn once wrote, "are normalcy raised to the level of drama." The same may be said for scandal, the shocking event that turns out not to have been so shocking after all once the tape is rewound, the warning signs exquisitely detailed and the "big picture" filled in. The scandal du jour is the rampage of Cho Seung-Hui, a "quiet" boy, "no trouble at all" until he killed 32 people at Virginia Tech and others began to recall that, why yes, there were those creepy actions and creepier plays, those diagnoses of mental illness, the telltale trail of every scared, sick loner who one day snaps, adding his victims to the 30,000 Americans killed with guns in far more ordinary circumstances each year.

"Thanks to you I die like Jesus Christ to inspire generations of the weak and the defenseless people," Cho said in his video. It is as if he had been reading from the scripts of school-shooters past, every one of whom had been taunted as a wuss, or rejected by a girl, or was lonely and withdrawn, or had written harrowing stories of mayhem and slaying. Like them, Cho was finally notable for his orgy of slaughter and the demented aspect of his immortality fantasy; otherwise, he merely supplied the latest dramatic uptick in the long-running saga of the marriage of weakness and cruelty.

Today, Cho; yesterday, Walter Reed Army Medical Center. The injured soldiers at the center of that earlier scandal certainly qualify as weak and defenseless people, except that the object of fascination while they dominated the 24/7 churn of cable news was not their career as killers or the preparations that readied them to kill. They were the victims in the scandal. About the perpetrator, Walter Reed, the question "How could this have happened?" was not answered with any of the searching examination the press brings to the biography of mass murderers. Naturally, we aren't meant to think of soldiers as trained killers or of any military installation as part of an institution of mass murder. It might help if we did. Certainly it would help aspiring recruits better understand what they are getting into, and help wounded veterans understand why they would be degraded as soon as they'd outlived their usefulness to the trade.

The truth is, a system dedicated to transforming psychologically healthy people into people capable of performing what in any other setting is considered a pathological act can't help behaving badly -- not all the time or in all of its realms, not monolithically so that everyone associated with it is scathed. But inevitably the ends deform the means, and inevitably someone pays. No one is talking about it, but what happened at Walter Reed to soldiers injured in war is not shocking at all if one ponders what happens at Army posts to soldiers injured in basic training.

"Like being incarcerated"

Basic training is one of those regimens of cruelty that people have come to accept as normal. The Army has officially eliminated some of its most abusive practices, along with its theory of "breaking them down to build them up," the classic humiliation of recruits by a drill sergeant, designed to make them into soldiers capable of acting as a unit, following orders and killing. This reshaping remains essential; it is simply meant to be accomplished with more respect now. In all events, weakness is to be despised, which means that the 15 to 37 percent of men and the 38 to 67 percent of women who sustain at least one injury due to the rigors of basic training at Fort Sill, Fort Knox, Fort Jackson, Fort Leonard Wood or Fort Benning are in trouble.

A year ago I visited Fort Sill, Okla., where the son of a friend had suffered stress fractures during basic training and was then in the post's physical training and rehabilitation program. PTRP is where the Army, desperate for bodies in a time of war, puts broken enlistees whom it is committed neither to curing nor to releasing, nor even to respecting as soldiers and human beings. Basic training takes nine weeks; PTRP can warehouse soldiers for months, in anticipation of the time they manage to recuperate, pass the grueling PT (physical training) test and go on to battle-readiness; or fail the test, try again, stumble through the bureaucratic labyrinth until the point at which they are chaptered out or medically discharged. As trainees, all have yet to be granted "permanent party" status in the Army. In the military hierarchy, this makes them lower life forms, which is how they were being treated at Fort Sill.


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JoAnn Wypijewski, a former senior editor at the Nation, is based in New York City. She can be reached at jwyp@earthlink.net.

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» While I rarely agree... Posted by: Conservasaurus
» Ateo, Considering Posted by: apophenia_monkey
» Clearly Posted by: apophenia_monkey
Not surprising, still disturbing
Posted by: zyxwvut on May 10, 2007 2:41 AM   
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The military is not the only system with a lamentable habit of throwing away people who have become useless to it. Workplaces do the same, as do government and political machines. Well, almost all institutions do this. Society in general does this. Some cultures have practiced infanticide to get rid of unwanted or unsupportable babies and geronticide to get rid of unwanted or unsupportable elders. Our society deals with unwanted people by ignoring them, or taking minimal action to shut them away in housing projects and foster homes and nursing homes, even while we have the resources to offer much better safety nets than the ones currently in place.

The military represents a more severe case in its system for dealing with problem members of the organization than the methods favored by other institutions in our already harsh society. This is due to the aggressive, authoritarian value system the military promotes, which naturally divides its members into the weak and the strong.

Corporations have the luxury of discarding an employee who has become useless, then they can simply be done with that person. A corporation can usually find a replacement easily, and if a jeopardized employee hangs onto their job by filing discrimination complaints or generally trying to resist this natural result of participating in an exploitative system (being kicked from the system when it no longer needs you), this employee runs the risk of harassment from management or other workers. Such harassment is a systemic way of rooting out this useless, and now rebellious, employee.

The military, however, cannot easily find replacements, so its weak members must be made strong and fit for service. In line with the military being a fighting organization, authoritarian in nature, the method favored for converting weak recruits into strong recruits involves harsh discipline. This is meant to toughen up the people who could not handle their initial stint in basic training. The weak recruits are viewed as outsiders, yet too many of them cannot be spit out of the system, thus those who are trapped end up in a position of ongoing contempt and abuse.

This treatment is wholly predictable. It is the product of an exploitative and authoritarian system that is starving for resources, in this case young fit bodies, and which is set up for the strong, not the weak, according to its particular standards for defining this dividing line.

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» Your comments are wrong and disturbing. Posted by: LeftCoastProgressive
How long will it be...
Posted by: HeroesAll on May 10, 2007 3:24 AM   
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...before an ex-Iraq soldier goes berko when he gets back home? How long before the latest mass shooting is done by a soldier, after too many 'redeployments' and too little post-war care? Training people to not mind killing doesn't magically stop when you want it to, you know. Once they've travelled that road, they don't automatically bounce back once they're home. And if they've been badly treated by the VA when they get back, or ignored (as so many of them with problems are), they'll only get worse.

And what do you think the government and army will say then? 'America's finest' going on a gun rampage.

And how long will it take, do you think, before the pathetic remainder of Americans will see the "support the troops" rhetoric for what it is?

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» It's already happened. Posted by: colinmeister
» I meant from this war Posted by: HeroesAll
» RE: How long will it be... Posted by: Conservasaurus
» RE: How long will it be... Posted by: HeroesAll
Occupation breeds contempt
Posted by: www.suekatz.com on May 10, 2007 4:49 AM   
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Thanks to JoAnn Wypijewski for a stunning look inside these institutions. Occupying nations find that their attitudes towards those they are crushing are infectious. In Israel, for example, violence against women and traffic accidents spike in great increases when that "peoples army" is most aggressive against the Palestinians. Contempt backed by violence seems to have a boomerang effect, poisoning the military machine, the cogs and the country.

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Evil in uniform.......
Posted by: philipcfromnyc on May 10, 2007 5:59 AM   
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I read the above article with a mixture of horror, revulsion, and disgust. This is not the first time that I have read about the abuse of servicemembers perceived to be "unfit" for duty, but this is certainly the first time that I have read an account of such abuse in which senior officers have commented on this abuse, on the record.

It is absolutely essential that every young person thinking of joining the Armed Forces be told the hard, unvarnished truth about the real reason that the young person in question is needed by the Armed Forces. All too often, I read about young people being told that joining the Armed Forces will grant them access to wonderful careers and training in fields that will enable them to return to civilian life with marketable skills. This may well be true -- but these benefits are incidental to the real reason that the Armed Forces need young recruits.

The military needs trained killers.

That is the bottom line. Until and unless those young people who are poised to enlist are made fully and completely aware of the fact that their young psyches will be broken and the remains molded into efficient killing machines, the abuses documented in this article will continue.

One has only to examine this country's record with respect to its treatment of servicemembers who have returned from "unpopular" wars (i.e. wars in which the US has lost) in order to observe the pattern that has unfolded, time after time. Consider the treatment faced by Vietnam veterans, both at the hands of civilians and at the hands of VA bureaucrats. These veterans have experienced abuse from civilians and from fellow members of the Armed Forces. The wounded were in many cases shipped to "hospitals" that were little more than warehouses for the wounded -- some of these "hospitals" were nothing more than decrepit buildings with leaking ceilings, rat-infested wards, dispensaries overstocked with so-called “major tranquillizers,” antidepressants (psychoanaleptic drugs), and fog-inducing painkillers, and medical equipment recycled from World War II. While "Article 99" was a movie, it was on point in terms of describing the manner in which members of the walking wounded were treated by the establishment. Consider also the manner in which soldiers suffering from Gulf War Syndrome have been treated. Many sufferers reported being told that there was no such thing as Gulf War Syndrome, even as their immune systems continued to deteriorate and even as they became increasingly incapacitated with the passage of time. What is particularly disturbing and disgusting about this particular issue is the manner in which many "mainstream," civilian newspapers have been complicit in this ruse. An example of a repeat offender in this context is the "New York Post," which has claimed in its editorial pages that Gulf War Syndrome does not exist; this newspaper also claimed, in the aftermath of the World Trade Center towers collapse of 9/11 that the diagnosis of "Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder" (PTSD) was merely a catch-all diagnosis to describe malingerers and the lazy. Failure to acknowledge the existence of this phenomenon in the civilian press constitutes failure to acknowledge the cold, hard truth that US society as a whole treats those of its members who are unable to contribute to society, by virtue of what they have experienced and lived through, like unwanted garbage -- notwithstanding prior accomplishment and prior productivity (the colloquial term "has-been" did not arise in a vacuum)… [Continued]

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Evil in uniform (continued)
Posted by: philipcfromnyc on May 10, 2007 6:01 AM   
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We have to be realistic. An establishment which exists for the purpose of turning ordinary young men and women (many of them still in their teens) into ruthless, efficient killing machines has little use for those of its members who, as the result of injury (physical or psychological), are rendered incapable of performing this primary task, will not (and cannot be expected to) help these unfortunate men and women reintegrate themselves into "mainstream" society. This is particularly true when most members of "mainstream" society do not agree with the actions of the military establishment itself. In other words, this problem is not localized to the Armed Forces. This problem is systemic to American society. Until we confront the realities described above (the true purpose of the military establishment, the truth about the goals of basic training, and the truth about the manner in which American society views those of its members who are no longer capable of functioning in that society), this problem is not going to go away, nor will it be possible for us to address this problem in a meaningful fashion. What is required before this can occur is nothing less than outright confrontation – Americans who truly care for their soldiers, regardless of political affiliation or agreement with current military strategy and foreign policy decisions, must be prepared to contact their elected representatives and to complain, again and again, about the abuses suffered by those in Physical Training and Rehabilitation Programs (PTRPs) and about the abuses documented at Walter Reed Army Medical Center. Only when American society recognizes that these abuses are a reflection of deeply rooted moralistic bias and refusal to face up to the implications of this recognition, will anything other than superficial, “band-aid” measures be implemented.

This is not too much to ask. This is about fundamental principles of decency.


PHILIP CHANDLER

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The USMC : Taking care of their own?
Posted by: Deke on May 10, 2007 7:25 AM   
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I spent four years in the U.S. Marine Corps, and was fortunate to do so during relative peacetime. It was a great experience, overall, and one I wouldn't trade for anything. One of the mottos that you hear slung around often in the ranks is, "Marines always take care of their own". Really?

In 1993, I blew out my knee playing intramural basketball. It was one of the most painful things I've ever experienced, and to this day, it has never healed properly. When my knee went, I completely collapsed on the court, and was unable to walk under my own power.

Once I got to the bench, my knee swelling by the second, my staff sergeant demanded that I get back in the game. Standing alone was painful, running up and down a basketball court was out of the question. For fear of being disciplined for being insubordinate, I went into the game, finding a way to run as little as possible, while being berated by my superior. I'm certain that this only aggravated the injury.

For what it's worth, the personality of my staff sergeant isn't unique; pain is viewed as weakness, and is to be scoffed at, disregarded, or dismissed altogether.

I went to a hospital -- forced to walk, because nobody from my unit would offer me a ride -- and was given Motrin and a day's bedrest. For an injury that persists, 14 years later.

To some, I'm sure I'm whining, or unappreciative. That's because some people can find anti-American subtext in any opinion, and those people aren't worthy of a response.

What's my point? That was just a sports injury. Imagine the treatment our servicemen and women are recieving during an unjust war, dodging bullets and bombs all day and night.

Walter Reed was just the beginning. Many of us were not as surprised as the general (i.e. civilian) public were. We know what conditions are like. That's why we got out.

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Don't use Cho as an example
Posted by: ReallyBearish on May 10, 2007 7:51 AM   
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The VT shooter isn't a good example to use for those showing weakness and powerlessness. Cho may have been picked on, but his real problem was his lack of ability to relate to people. He seems to be similar to the Unibomber in this respect.

One of his roomates in college said that he and Cho never had a single conversation in the nine months of living together, that he avoided eye contact with people in general. I can't imagine anyone with even minimal social skills behaving like that. This kid was obviously brain damaged.

Those in the military who get themselves in a position of weakness didn't do so out of poor social skills.

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The Inevitable Mayhem When an Army Fights for Empire
Posted by: sofla100 on May 10, 2007 12:54 PM   
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We have to face facts. First of all, the US military machine long ago stopped acting in "self-defense" or for the "preservation of liberty." Today's U.S. Army fights for "national strategic objectives," which invariably means to fight to maintain the access to resources and markets of the privileged few. Now, if we were really attacked and our lives were at stake, most all of us would rush forward in self-defense. But, the case today is the exact opposite. USA garrisons around the world stand ready to "act on orders from the President," covert ops stand ready to "take out who must go." Given this reality, is it any surprise then when such an Army turns cruel and sadistic? Like the old soldiers of Rome and the gladiators, today's American Army is a "professional fighting force" that must maintain "military order and discipline." Meanwhile, the carnage and mayhem continues in Iraq. The endless and unending "surging of troops" continues, the dead continue to come home in bodybags. And, thousands and thousands of young men and women come home broken and disillusioned. The wounded and disturbed to be "mocked" and made examples of.

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I went through this too
Posted by: ahill7982 on May 10, 2007 1:09 PM   
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I was so happy to read this article because I didn't think anyone really knew or cared about what happened in PTRP or medhold. After breaking both of my feet within a week of each other (drill sgts. don't usually believe you when you are in pain), I got to endure two surgeries and nine months as a prisoner in an army hospital. Looking back my experience was not as bad as some but most of the stories closely mirrored my experience. I understand what the army is trying to do but locking up injured soldiers until they go crazy isn't the way to go about it. After nine months my doctor wanted me to go from med hold to ptrp so I could work back into going back to basic training. The thought of going through another injury or going through another year of being a second class citizen almost made me lose my marbles. I'm lucky they realized a girl with two busted feet probably wasn't going to make much of a soldier anymore. Five years later I still have painin my feet but I'm glad I'm free and clear of the army. I hope this story and more stories like this shed a light on the people that hold this country in such a high reguard they are willing to fight for it but when they get injured are treated like trash.

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How to get RON PAUL elected!!! Read this...
Posted by: anonimus1 on May 10, 2007 1:17 PM   
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How to become a delegate to the Republican National Convention --
http://www.lib.niu.edu/ipo/1991/ii911218.html

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Things have definitely changed...
Posted by: RON_KING on May 10, 2007 1:34 PM   
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My experiences at Ft Polk in 1974, then the premier Infantry Training facility, were vastly different from what is reported here. For one, the training staff were forbidden to use physical contact of any kind on the recruits. Assaulting a recruit was a Courts Martial offense. Even hand to hand combat instruction was performed with minimal actual contact, maximum supervision, and actual sparring done between the recruits themselves. I doubt the UCMJ has changed that much since 74. If assaults of the type described are now commonplace, it must be because the commands are adverse to reporting them as violations.

Yes, we were trained to be killers. We had to be. Your average civilian has neither the temperament nor training to do what is required by combat. When did the psychopaths take over the institution?

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» You raise an excellent point Posted by: Bobsays
Ah, glad to see this story on Alternet - finally!
Posted by: ateo on May 10, 2007 5:38 PM   
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I vividly recall my reaction to reading the original article on Counterpunch because it brought back so many memories I have from when I got pneumonia during Air Force basic at Lackland AFB. I was one of the readers who wrote to the author to share their personal stories.

Luckily pneumonia cures up rather quickly once the military docs bother to give you real medicine instead of just Motrin and over the counter cold medication, so I only spent 11 days in that hell hole (the 319th Training Squadron, the Air Force's PTRP). Oh yes, kids with shoulder injuries in a sling who'd been trapped in basic for 8 months. Stress fractures from running, shin splints, pneumonia, I saw it all.

Personally my lungs were 40% filled with fluid (according to the doc looking at my X-ray) and I was running a 104 degree temperature. I was coughing so much that I could barely talk, my chest felt like it was going to implode, and nobody in my dorm could sleep at night. I vomited on the track the morning they sent me to the 319th after doing the morning run/PT.

That didn't stop my instructors from screaming in my face that they were glad I was leaving because I'm a worthless piece of **** while I packed my dufflebag with about 80 pounds of stuff (2 pairs of boots, uniforms, toiletry items etc.) and marched across base with that on my back in the heat of San Antonio in August. Then I had to dump it out all over the ground so they could confiscate all of my medications and sharp objects.

That's right, they took even my tiny safety scissors and Motrin because there had been so many suicide attempts in the 319th. That's why the Army's story that Scario killed himself are HIGHLY SUSPECT (read: total B.S.). Unless the Army is completely incompetent they didn't let the "trainees" self medicate for the same reasons you don't let inmates in prison self medicate. We had to line up and have our drugs handed to us like we were in a psyche ward. It was a harrowing experience.

You get all the abuse and stress of basic training with no sense of progression, no light at the end of the tunnel. It's worse than prison. There was nothing to do so one of the big "fun" things to do was shine your boots to perfection, scrape it all off with your military ID, then shine them again - rinse and repeat.

I really don't think people know what they are getting into when they sign up for the military. I know I didn't. I thought I did, being the smart kid I was - doing research on the internet. The only good things I got out of the military were a secret security clearance and an honorable discharge.

The smart ones who wanted out either said they were gay or said they had asthma (the Air Force, unlike the Army, can afford to get rid of troops - I'd imagine in the Army those things wouldn't work, the only way out is in chains or a body bag). The stupid ones who wanted out just went nuts, ended up in the psyche hospital, then back in the 319th after a few days.

If I could go back in time I wouldn't do it again. I'd work a crap job and live in a trailer if I had to rather than risk my health and mental stability (neither are quite what they used to be) in an attempt to climb the economic ladder. I'd say the overall experience over several years was about 45% good 55% bad.

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In boot camp...
Posted by: Ian MacLeod on May 10, 2007 7:43 PM   
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I was "on the binnacle list" (sick), but was required to get up at 4:30 AM, clean my area, show up to muster, then march double-time to go eat. I didn't eat for four days at least, and I don't remember it all I'm told I had a fever over 105F. There was some talk about a court-martial because I broke a noncom's jaw when he tried to drag me out of bed. I don't remember that either. In the service at Oak Knoll Hospital (VAMC Oakland), a bug was going around,. I made it ONCE to the ER and was gicen something. My roomie was on leave, and I was unable to find the door fir three days, until my fever (which the doc estimated at 107 or over) went down. No one came to check.

I also remember exercises that I now know caused some of the back problems that contributed to my permanent nerve damage and 6 back operations. Nothing I can do - I'm disabled.

Ian

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» "Support the troops" Posted by: fanny666
How our bestial troops behave in Iraq
Posted by: LeftCoastProgressive on May 11, 2007 9:33 AM   
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Take a look at this video and get a feel for what our"well trained" troops are doing in Iraq.

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/#51750

There was a GI in the green zone posting here for awhile who described how he launched a bunch of mortar rounds back to what he thought were "good" coordinates after an incoming mortar attack. He casually admitted the rounds fell short and wiped out a family of innocents including children. Just ragtops...huh?

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» War is Hell Posted by: fanny666
Broke Gimp
Posted by: armybrat8 on May 11, 2007 8:20 PM   
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Broke Gimp is what they call you, affectionately if you are out of training, not so affectionately if you are a new recruit. Some of it is just a well needed scare tactic. The Drill Sergeants have to call you names as you are packing up your stuff to head out. This is to dissuade all but the actually injured from faking it. However, PTRP is ridiculous. I ended up in Hold Under land at Fort Leonard Wood back in '03 because I couldn't pass the entry level PT test. I passed the test fairly quickly after that, but I'd missed my Basic Training Class date so I had to wait for a slot to free up. And there were crazies and preggies and broke gimps there. I felt bad for the injured guys because some had been there for months on end and were still treated like crap. You are supposed to be treated like crap when you are a new trainee. But after nine months? When you are injured? At some point a competent doctor needs to say, hey, this guy is injured, cut him some slack and let him heal up.

But that's the problem. We're kind of short of doctors, and short of recruits. So recruits are pushed through with all kinds of injuries and illnesses, and rarely see a doctor. This continues in the rest of the Army. You might see a PA, but he'll likely give you painkillers and send you on your way. And yes, they deploy people to Iraq with asthma, and PTSD, and diabetes.

On the plus side, if you get blown up, the best doctors in the military will put you back to together again at Taji, Landstuhl, and Walter Reed. The Army might forget about you after that though. There is something a little like PTRP for combat-wounded troops on my base. It's on the old crappy side of the installation, and those guys don't look happy. I don't know the whole story though.

Army medical needs to be fixed. This will, of course, require conscripting doctors, as well as enough recruits to replace the broke gimps, but so be it. It'll give some of you lot a nice chance to burn your draft card. ;)

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Stop Using the Troops
Posted by: LarSim on May 11, 2007 8:41 PM   
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I'd sure wish that people would stop using the troops as a crutch to assert their political beliefs.

God knows, the Bush Administration cabal has done it relentlessly and without the slightest bit of remorse.

The troops are the troops. They do what we tell them to do, often at the cost of their well being and even at the cost of their lives. Isn't that enough?

Why drag them front and center into the middle of a political debate and use them as a political football? Leave the troops out of it. They have enough to worry about. Argue the merits of your political stance on its own. Stop using the troops as a political crutch.

Leave the troops alone.

- LarSim (former US Marine - 1959-1965)

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The military is bull shit, the DoD is bull shit, the defense industry is bull shit
Posted by: ateo on May 13, 2007 8:03 PM   
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Put a stop to all of it or change it so it isn't a fucking molestation of basic human rights among both enemies and friendlies.

It makes me sick to even contemplate what goes on in the military.

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Lord of the Flies
Posted by: rabblerowzer on May 17, 2007 1:25 AM   
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That bully-boy mentality is an innate characteristic of man. Whenever you have a group of men or boys, it exists. Aggressive boys usually become the leaders in any group and he single out the “wimps” as scapegoats for his followers to torment. I saw it on the playground, in the neighborhood and in the Boy Scouts. Many male adults even encourage that behavior, thinking it will “make a man,” out of the “wimps.”

We are a species that worships the “Lord of the Flies.”

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Excellent post!
Posted by: J_Mo on May 25, 2007 6:40 AM   
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Thanks for laying out the opposing psychologies of these two kinds of wars so clearly!

If "the angry ones" don't get it now, they never will.

My heart bleeds for today's soldiers.

~The Lioness

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