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Hillary: The Corporate Candidate?

By Ari Berman, TheNation.com. Posted May 18, 2007.


If Hillary Clinton really wanted to curtail the influence of the powerful as she says in her speeches, she might start with the advisers to her own campaign, who represent some of the weightiest interests in corporate America.
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In a packed ballroom in midtown Manhattan, Hillary Clinton is addressing hundreds of civil rights activists and labor leaders convened by the Rev. Al Sharpton for his annual National Action Network conference. The junior senator from New York starts slowly but picks up steam when she hits on the economic anxiety many in the room feel. "We're not making progress," she says, her sharp Midwestern monotone accented with a bit of Southern twang. "Wages are flat." Nods of agreement. "This economy is not working!" Applause. She's not quite the rhetorical populist her husband was on the campaign trail, but she can still feel your pain. "Everything has been skewed," Clinton says, jabbing her index finger for emphasis, "to help the privileged and the powerful at the expense of everybody else!"

It's a rousing speech, though ultimately not very convincing. If Clinton really wanted to curtail the influence of the powerful, she might start with the advisers to her own campaign, who represent some of the weightiest interests in corporate America. Her chief strategist, Mark Penn, not only polls for America's biggest companies but also runs one of the world's premier PR agencies. A bevy of current and former Hillary advisers, including her communications guru, Howard Wolfson, are linked to a prominent lobbying and PR firm -- the Glover Park Group -- that has cozied up to the pharmaceutical industry and Rupert Murdoch. Her fundraiser in chief, Terry McAuliffe, has the priciest Rolodex in Washington, luring high-rolling contributors to Clinton's campaign. Her husband, since leaving the presidency, has made millions giving speeches and counsel to investment banks like Goldman Sachs and Citigroup. They house, in addition to other Wall Street firms, the Clintons' closest economic advisers, such as Bob Rubin and Roger Altman, whose DC brain trust, the Hamilton Project, is Clinton's economic team in waiting. Even the liberal in her camp, former deputy chief of staff Harold Ickes, has lobbied for the telecom and healthcare industries, including a for-profit nursing home association indicted in Texas for improperly funneling money to disgraced former House majority leader Tom DeLay.

"She's got a deeper bench of big money and corporate supporters than her competitors," says Eli Attie, a former speechwriter to Vice President Al Gore. Not only is Hillary more reliant on large donations and corporate money than her Democratic rivals, but advisers in her inner circle are closely affiliated with unionbusters, GOP operatives, conservative media and other Democratic Party antagonists.

It's not exactly an advertisement for the working-class hero, or a picture her campaign freely displays. Her lengthy support for the Iraq War is Clinton's biggest liability in Democratic primary circles. But her ties to corporate America say as much, if not more, about what she values and cast doubt on her ability and willingness to fight for the progressive policies she claims to champion. She is "running to help and restore the great middle class in our country," Wolfson says. So was Bill in 1992. He was for "putting people first." Then he entered the White House and pushed for NAFTA, signed welfare reform, consolidated the airwaves through the Telecommunications Act of 1996 (leading to Clear Channel's takeover) and cleared the mergers of mega-banks. Would the First Lady do any different?

Ever since the defeat of healthcare reform, Hillary has been a committed incrementalist, describing herself as a creature of the "moderate, sensible center" whom business admires and rewards. During her six years in the Senate, she's rarely been out front on difficult economic issues. Given her proximity to money and power, it's not hard to figure out why she keeps controversial figures close to her -- even if their work becomes a liability for her campaign.

Polling Czar

After the 1994 election, Democrats had just lost both houses of Congress, and President Clinton was floundering in the polls. At the urging of his wife, he turned to Dick Morris, a friend from their time in Arkansas. Morris brought in two pollsters from New York, Doug Schoen and his partner, Mark Penn, a portly, combative workaholic. Morris decided what to poll and Penn polled it. They immediately pushed Clinton to the right, enacting the now-infamous strategy of "triangulation," which co-opted Republican policies like welfare reform and tax cuts and emphasized small-bore issues that supposedly cut across the ideological divide. "They were the ones who said, 'Make the '96 election about nothing except V-chips and school uniforms,'" says a former adviser to Bill. When Morris got caught with a call girl, Penn became the most important adviser in Clinton's second term. "In a White House where polling is virtually a religion," the Washington Post reported in 1996, "Penn is the high priest."

Penn, who had previously worked in the business world for companies like Texaco and Eli Lilly, brought his corporate ideology to the White House. After moving to Washington he aggressively expanded his polling firm, Penn, Schoen & Berland (PSB). It was said that Penn was the only person who could get Bill Clinton and Bill Gates on the same line. Penn's largest client was Microsoft, and he saw no contradiction between working for both the plaintiff and the defense in what was at the time the country's largest antitrust case. A variety of controversial clients enlisted PSB. The firm defended Procter & Gamble's Olestra from charges that the food additive caused anal leakage, blamed Texaco's bankruptcy on greedy jurors and market-tested genetically modified foods for Monsanto. PSB introduced to consulting the concept of "inoculation": shielding corporations from scandal through clever advertising and marketing.

In 2000 Penn became the chief architect of Hillary's Senate victory in New York, persuading her, in a rerun of '96, to eschew big themes and relentlessly focus on poll-tested pothole politics, such as suburban transit lines and dairy farming upstate. Following that election, Penn became a very rich man -- and an even more valued commodity in the business world (Hillary paid him $1 million for her re-election campaign in '06 and $277,000 in the first quarter of this year). The massive PR empire WPP Group acquired Penn's polling firm for an undisclosed sum in 2001 and four years later named him worldwide CEO of one of its most prized properties, the PR firm Burson-Marsteller (B-M).

A key player in the decision to hire Penn was Howard Paster, President Clinton's chief lobbyist to Capitol Hill and an influential presence inside WPP. "Clients of stature come to Mark constantly for counsel," says Paster, who informally advises Hillary, explaining the hire. The press release announcing Penn's promotion noted his work "developing and implementing deregulation informational programs for the electric utilities industry and in the financial services sector." The release blithely ignored how utility deregulation contributed to the California electricity crisis manipulated by Enron and the blackout of 2003, which darkened much of the Northeast and upper Midwest.

Burson-Marsteller is hardly a natural fit for a prominent Democrat. The firm has represented everyone from the Argentine military junta to Union Carbide after the 1984 Bhopal disaster in India, in which thousands were killed when toxic fumes were released by one of its plants, to Royal Dutch Shell, which has been accused of colluding with the Nigerian government in committing major human rights violations. B-M pioneered the use of pseudo-grassroots front groups, known as "astroturfing," to wage stealth corporate attacks against environmental and consumer groups. It set up the National Smokers Alliance on behalf of Philip Morris to fight tobacco regulation in the early 1990s. Its current clients include major players in the finance, pharmaceutical and energy industries. In 2006, with Penn at the helm, the company gave 57 percent of its campaign contributions to Republican candidates.

A host of prominent Republicans fall under Penn's purview. B-M's Washington lobbying arm, BKSH & Associates, is run by Charlie Black, a leading GOP operative who maintains close ties to the White House, including Karl Rove, and was a partner with Lee Atwater, the consultant who crafted the Willie Horton smear campaign for George H.W. Bush in 1988. In recent years Black's clients have included the likes of Iraq's Ahmad Chalabi, the darling of the neocon right in the run-up to the war; Lockheed Martin; and Occidental Petroleum. In 2005 he landed a contract with the Lincoln Group, the disgraced PR firm that covertly placed US military propaganda in Iraqi news outlets.

Black is only one cannon in B-M's Republican arsenal. Its "grassroots" lobbying branch, Direct Impact -- which specializes in corporate-funded astroturfing -- is run by Dennis Whitfield, a former Reagan Cabinet official, and Dave DenHerder, the political director of the Bush/Cheney '04 campaign in Ohio. That's not all. B-M recently partnered with lobbyist Ed Gillespie, the former head of the Republican National Committee, in creating the new ad firm 360Advantage, run by two admen for the Bush/Cheney campaigns. Its first project was a campaign against "liberal bias" in the media for the neoconservative Weekly Standard magazine.

As expected with such a lineup, B-M has a highly confrontational relationship with organized labor. "Companies cannot be caught unprepared by Organized Labor's coordinated campaigns," read the "Labor Relations" section of its website, describing that branch of the company (the section was altered after The American Prospect quoted it in March).

Back in 2003, two large unions, UNITE (which later merged with the hotel and restaurant union, HERE) and the Teamsters, launched a major drive to organize 32,000 garment workers and truck drivers at Cintas, the country's largest and most profitable uniform and laundry supply company (it posted $3.4 billion in sales and $327 million in profits last year). Its longtime CEO, Richard Farmer, was a mega-fundraising "Pioneer" for George W. Bush. Cintas was sued for overcharging consumers and denying workers overtime pay -- it settled both cases out of court -- and was ordered by a California superior court to give employees $1.4 million for not paying them a living wage.

It has also maintained unsafe working conditions (an employee in Tulsa died recently when caught in a 300-degree dryer) and, according to union officials, has used any means necessary to block the organizing drive. According to worker complaints documented by the unions, management fired employees on false grounds, vowed to close plants and screened antiunion videos. A plant manager in Vista, California, threatened to "kick driver-employees with his steel-toed boots," according to a complaint UNITE HERE filed with the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB). To put a soft face on its harsh tactics, Cintas hired Wade Gates, a top employee in B-M's Dallas office, as its chief spokesman. Gates coined Cintas's shrewd response to labor: "the right to say yes, the freedom to say no," which has been repeated endlessly in the press. In a speech at USC Law School last year, he outlined Cintas's strategy, calling for an "aggressive defense against union tactics." Says Ahmer Qadeer, an organizer for UNITE HERE, "It's the Burson influence that's made Cintas much, much slicker than they were."

The unions have won two NLRB rulings against Cintas, but for four years the company has continued to resist the organizing campaign. Penn disclaimed any responsibility for B-M's activities before his arrival at the firm, and he told The Nation he has "never personally participated in any antiunion activity," even though B-M's antilabor arm is still operating under his tenure. (Penn added a personal note: "My father was for many years a union organizer in the poultry workers union.")

In 2004 Hillary Clinton asked for an investigation into whether Cintas had received preferential regulatory treatment from the Environmental Protection Agency in return for giving large political donations to President Bush. Union officials say she's been supportive of their organizing drive. She's a co-sponsor of the Employee Free Choice Act, which would let workers form unions if a majority sign cards authorizing representation, thus avoiding coercion and intimidation during union election campaigns (Cintas bitterly opposes the EFCA). She told the International Association of Firefighters recently, "I believe that it is absolutely essential to the way America works that people be given the right to organize and bargain collectively."

Hillary apparently sees no contradiction between her advocacy and the antiunion work of her chief strategist's company. "Clearly not," says spokesman Wolfson. "I don't think it reflects on her at all. Mark's work away from the campaign is Mark's work, and his campaign work is separate from that."

Penn recently told the Washington Post, in a largely flattering profile, that he'd been "cleared of all client responsibilities, except for Microsoft, for the duration of the campaign." Microsoft is a strange exception, given that it was the corporate entity the Clinton Administration challenged most directly. Moreover, Penn has no plans to take a formal leave from B-M. (Because B-M is a subsidiary of the WPP Group, a British company, it doesn't have to report its CEO's salary or ownership stake in the company.) George W. Bush forced Karl Rove to sell his direct-mail business in 1999, but don't expect a similar move from Hillary. Her campaign pays Penn's polling firm, which is part of B-M. "Senator Clinton is no different, frankly, from Mark's other clients," Howard Paster says. "Burson-Marsteller is a lot bigger firm than Senator Clinton. There's a whole 'nother life we live."

Yet occasionally the work of Penn's company spills onto Hillary's political terrain. Penn's polling firm has worked with the Clean and Safe Energy Coalition -- a PR front group for the nuclear power industry -- which purports to show "strong support among Americans for nuclear energy." Coincidentally, one of B-M's big projects is the Indian Point nuclear power plant, twenty-four miles north of Manhattan, dubbed by environmentalists "Chernobyl on the Hudson." The plant received the lowest safety rating from the Nuclear Regulatory Commission in 2000, and after 9/11 there were widespread calls from environmentalists, consumer groups and elected officials to shut it down. It has had nine unplanned shutdowns since 2005.

With the help of B-M, Indian Point's owner, Entergy Corporation, struck back with a multipronged ad campaign. Its post-9/11 slogan, "Safe, secure, vital," emphasized security, warning that if Indian Point were closed New York could face a California-style energy crisis. In 2003, after Westchester County legislators passed resolutions condemning Indian Point, B-M set up a classic astroturf group on Entergy's behalf, the Campaign for Affordable Energy, Environmental and Economic Justice, which targeted Democratic incumbents in low-income sections of Westchester who supported closing the plant. If Indian Point were shuttered, the bilingual campaign informed residents, electricity bills would increase, power to public transportation would be jeopardized and dirty power plants would go up in low-income and minority neighborhoods.

At the same time, B-M unveiled another organization also bankrolled by Entergy that promoted Indian Point. Following the '06 elections, Entergy unveiled a new slogan, "Right for New York," citing Indian Point as an asset in the fight against global warming. Hillary has called for an "independent safety assessment" but has declined to join Governor Eliot Spitzer and twelve members of Congress in urging that the plant be shut down. Entergy, founded in Arkansas, was a major supporter of Bill Clinton in the 1990s and contributed generously to Hillary in 2000 and 2006.

It's difficult to tell where Penn's corporate life ends and his political one begins. Most Democratic consultants do some business work -- it's the easiest way to pay the bills. Yet nobody wears as many hats -- and advises as many corporations -- as Penn. "Penn and Schoen have displayed a thirst for corporate work, often in conflict with the policy agendas of their political clients, that has long set the bar among Democratic pollsters," wrote Democratic pollster Mark Blumenthal on his blog recently.

Furthermore, few Democratic consultants so consistently and publicly advocate an ideology that perfectly complements their corporate clients. Every election cycle Penn discovers a new group of swing voters -- "soccer moms," "wired workers," "office park dads" -- who happen to be the key to the election and believe the same thing: "Outdated appeals to class grievances and attacks upon corporate perfidy only alienate new constituencies and ring increasingly hollow," Penn has written. Through his longtime association with the Democratic Leadership Council, Penn has been pushing pro-corporate centrism for years. Many of the same companies that underwrite the DLC, such as Eli Lilly, AT&T, Texaco and Microsoft, also happen to be clients of Penn's.

Penn's views often clash with the work of other Democratic pollsters. Half a dozen former PSB staffers say Penn has stretched to get the answers he wanted, including manipulating data, phrasing misleading questions and shifting the demographics of those polled, whether it was for the Clinton campaign in 1996 or a corporate client like Procter & Gamble. For example, Penn was insistent that Clinton's poll numbers in '96 match his poll numbers in '92, say two staffers who worked at PSB during the campaign. If Clinton was underperforming, Penn would artificially add more Democratic-aligned groups to the survey sample to make Bill look better. "He was a great showman, and he'd paint you a nice picture," says one former staffer who worked with Penn in the late '90s. "But the way he got you the data -- it was cooked." Staffers who left started a PSB survivors message board documenting what they perceived as personally abusive and unethical behavior in the workplace.

When presented with these allegations, Penn said, "Polling in '96 was 100 percent accurate, to the point," adding, "no staffer you could have talked to ever attended any meeting with any of the clients." He insists that "all weightings and question wording turned out to be accurate." Former partner Doug Schoen adds, "No data was ever manipulated. ... There was never any discussion of the polling from 1992 during 1996." In response to the complaints on the message board, Penn dismissed "a nearly decade-old anonymous site with inaccurate material from an unhappy few."

Clients have usually been uninterested in Penn's methodology because they liked his results. But not always. Al Gore fired Penn as his pollster before the 2000 Democratic primaries, in part because he wanted to move in a more populist direction and in part because he didn't trust him. Penn "would write polls to get the result he felt was important," Tony Coelho, Gore's campaign chair, told Rolling Stone. Recently two poll interviewees accused the Denver-based field office of Penn's firm, PSA Interviewing, of conducting misleading telephone polls in California and New Hampshire. The interviewers read to respondents statements like "John Edwards chose not to run for another Senate term because he didn't think he could win, abandoning the fight in Congress against the administration," and "Barack Obama failed to vote in favor of abortion rights nine times as a state senator."

Hillary, by contrast, is presented as someone who "was born into a middle-class home where she learned the value of hard work and frugality." At the end of the script the poll asks, "Based on what you've heard, who would you choose as the Democratic candidate for President: Hillary Clinton, John Edwards or Barack Obama?" In response to these accusations, Penn said the charges were false and that "this firm conducts standard political and market research polls ... and does not do push polling." He would not confirm or deny that the questions above came from PSA.

These days Penn's few political clients lean to the right. He worked on Joe Lieberman's ill-fated presidential run and the Venezuelan recall referendum in 2004 and Italian billionaire Silvio Berlusconi's unsuccessful re-election campaign last year.

Yet despite his outsized role in the corporate world, his company's close ties to GOP operatives and questions about his polling techniques, Penn remains a leading figure in Hillary's campaign, pitching the inevitability of her nomination to donors and party bigwigs. According to the New York Times, "[Hillary] Clinton responds to Penn's points with exclamations like, Oh, Mark, what a smart thing to say!" His presence means that triangulation is alive and well inside the campaign and that despite her populist forays, Hillary won't stray far from the center or think too big. "Penn has a lot of influence on her, no doubt about it," says New York political consultant Hank Sheinkopf, who worked with Penn in '96. "He's not going to let her drift too far left."

White House in Exile

Penn's not the only major player in Hillary's corporate orbit. There's also the Glover Park Group, a fast-rising lobbying and PR firm known as the "White House in Exile" because it's packed with former Clintonites. Its roster includes former Clinton press secretary Joe Lockhart and deputy chief of staff Joel Johnson. From Hillary's orbit come Peter Kauffman, her former press secretary, and Gigi Georges, her New York director. Campaign manager Patti Solis Doyle used to work there, and until recently so did Howard Wolfson.

Wolfson, a pugnacious operative who's said he admires Karl Rove's skills, took a leave of absence in March (unlike Penn), though he still has a stake in the firm. Partners at Glover Park downplay connections to Hill and Bill, but the association -- along with the Democratic takeover of Congress -- has been good for business. Glover Park was Washington's fastest-growing private company in 2005. The day before the 2006 election it got a huge infusion of private-equity cash from a firm in Chicago, Svoboda, Collins. Business has doubled since then. No one at Glover Park is now officially part of the Clinton campaign, yet there are plenty of unofficial relationships. Johnson, for example, is giving to and raising money for Hillary. The firm still lobbies her office, as it presumably would a Clinton II White House.

Glover Park's clients have included standard liberal groups like the United Federation of Teachers and the ACLU. Yet the Clinton ties have also helped the firm make an alliance with Rupert Murdoch. Hillary started cozying up to Murdoch after her 2000 Senate victory, in a calculated attempt to defang his conservative media empire, News Corp. In 2004 the billionaire required a favor of his own: Nielsen was preparing to change the way it measured viewership in US TV markets, a plan that Murdoch's Fox network feared would cost it millions in ad revenue. So Murdoch called on Glover Park. Wolfson secured a $200,000 contract and unveiled a PR blitz under the guise of a supposedly independent minority front group called Don't Count Us Out. The group played on fears of voter disenfranchisement, arguing that minorities would be undercounted in the new system. Don't Count Us Out ran more than 100 ads in two days, and Nielsen was deluged with hate mail. Letters of support came in from politicians, including Senator Clinton, who warned, "Nielsen would be remiss in pushing forward with its rollout plan." The campaign eventually fizzled when influential supporters, including Jesse Jackson, realized that Glover Park's claims were bogus and viewers were simply moving from broadcast channels like Fox to cable. Yet Murdoch kept Glover Park on retainer and held a $60,000 fundraiser for Clinton last July. News Corp. executive Peter Chernin is hosting a top-dollar shindig for her in LA in late May. Asked what she thought of Murdoch, Clinton spokesman Phillippe Reines told The New Yorker, "Senator Clinton respects him and thinks he's smart and effective."

News Corp. wasn't an exception for Glover Park. It's used similar tactics on behalf of another frequent Democratic bête noire -- the pharmaceutical industry. As with Penn, it's been difficult to tell where business ends and politics begins. In the run-up to passage of the Medicare Modernization Act in 2003, Johnson (who partnered with disgraced former Tom DeLay staffers and associates of Jack Abramoff at his previous lobbying job) lobbied for the industry's chief arm, the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America (PhRMA).

Last summer, as the law came under scrutiny from both liberals and conservatives, he wrote a memo to Hill staffers arguing that "early polls call into question the political value in strongly attacking the weakness in the Medicare prescription drug plan." Johnson failed to note that he was on the industry's payroll, as were other firms whose work he cited. After the election Glover Park inked deals with drugmakers Amgen and Pfizer to block a proposal to lower drug prices under Medicare and help the latter slash 10,000 workers this year and close five manufacturing sites.

Glover Park has also been trying to get liberals to support a program called Medicare Advantage. According to the federally run Medicare Payment Advisory Commission, this privately run plan overcharges the government by 12 percent compared with traditional Medicare. And it paves the way for privatization. As a result, Congressmen like Pete Stark and Charlie Rangel want to redirect some of the money toward children's healthcare. That proposal has drawn fierce resistance from America's Health Insurance Plans (AHIP), which has recruited Glover Park and another Democratic firm, the Dewey Square Group, to argue that cutting benefits to Medicare Advantage would disproportionately hurt low-income and minority enrollees (note a pattern?), a claim the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities calls "distorted" and "based on misleading use of data."

Nevertheless, former Hillary spokesman Peter Kauffman has asked community groups in New York to join a Medicare Advantage minority advisory committee, which now includes former big-city mayors and the NAACP. And Glover Park put out polling, in conjunction with a GOP firm and AHIP, that shows "record high satisfaction" among enrollees, according to Johnson. Hillary was supportive of the Medicare Advantage program during the debate over Medicare but voted against the final bill. She hasn't commented on whether she favors preserving the current system.

Murdoch and PhRMA aren't the only odd couples to enlist the Clintonites. There's also the government of Dubai, which has paid Bill handsomely for speeches and strategic advice. Around the time of the furor over the proposed management of US ports by Dubai Ports World, Glover Park launched a lobbying drive to broker the sale of two US military plants to the government-owned Dubai International Capital. The two New York senators led opposition to the ports deal but didn't raise objections to the plant takeover. According to Newsday, the $100,000 contract was routed through the LA law firm of Raj Tanden, brother of Hillary's top domestic policy adviser, Neera Tanden.

Glover Park has also fronted for Verizon to kill "net neutrality" and allow telecom companies to charge more for certain Internet content, for the insurance industry on asbestos claims, for Ernst & Young on immunity from shareholder lawsuits and for the Swift banking coalition's collaboration with the Bush Administration on "antiterror" financial records.

Partners at Glover Park say business is business -- if their work puts them at odds with fellow Democrats, so be it. "On some days you're working on the other side of an issue from a Democratic Congressman," says Johnson. "The next day you're helping them raise money." It's a world Hillary knows well.

The Compromised Candidate

It's hard to see how her advisers' corporate work doesn't reflect poorly on Clinton's progressive claims or create a liability for her with Democratic voters. There's no evidence that she has taken a position specifically to benefit one of her advisers' clients or a top supporter. More likely, the ties to corporate America, along with the bruises of past defeats, have limited what she believes is possible and will fight to achieve. "If you surround yourself by people who live off of big corporations, that's going to affect the advice they give you and your own worldview," says a former Clinton adviser.

Clinton has a consistently liberal Senate voting record, earning near-perfect scores from Americans for Democratic Action. She's fought to get New York its fair share of federal money after 9/11 and has advocated for long-neglected, though politically safe, issues like children's health and veterans care. Yet voting records capture only so much. Since the healthcare reform disaster of 1993-94, she has rarely stuck her neck out on contentious issues. "She votes the issues that come up, rather than take the leadership role," says Joan Claybrook, president of Public Citizen. "We tried to do too much, too fast twelve years ago," Clinton told the Federation of American Hospitals last year, "and I still have the scars to show for it." She's now the number-one Congressional recipient of donations from the healthcare industry.

Clinton's rarely been the threat to the business community that many on the right typically allege. She's often partnered with Republicans like Newt Gingrich and Bill Frist. In 2002 she backed a harsh position on welfare reform reauthorization that put her at odds even with conservative Republicans like Orrin Hatch. She persuaded her husband to veto the bankruptcy bill in 1997, voted for a similar version in 2001 and missed the vote in 2005, when Bill was in the hospital. She advocated weakening the McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform law, telling Feingold to "live in the real world." Unlike Edwards and Obama, she accepts campaign contributions from lobbyists and corporate PACs. "Ask them why they don't take money from lobbyists," Wolfson retorts. "We're proud of our support."

The conservative caricature that Hillary is to the left of her husband is a myth. She, like Bill, talks a good game. She's aggressively courted organized labor and distanced herself from policies like NAFTA. She privately tells public-interest groups and liberal commentators that she's on their side. At the same time, she's premised her presidential campaign on a restoration of the Clinton era, frequently invoking "Bill and I" on the stump as a way of claiming credit for the perceived successes of the 1990s. She's expressed no qualms about her closest advisers' forays into the corporate world. Courting elements of the Democratic base while signaling to the corporate right that she won't shake up the system is a tricky juggling act. Even the First Lady of triangulation may not be able to pull it off.

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Ari Berman is a contributing writer for The Nation and a Ralph Shikes Fellow at the Public Concern Foundation. He's currently based in D.C.

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Hillary is About Hillary
Posted by: NoPCZone on May 18, 2007 12:18 AM   
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She always has been and always will be.

If she thought it was to her advantage to be a NeoCon tomorrow, she would do it and try to make it look as if she had been all along. As a resident of Arkansas I have been watching the chick for a long time now and have met her on a number of occasions.

I do not trust her any farther than I could throw her.

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But she voted "for" good things
Posted by: edith on May 18, 2007 1:20 AM   
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"Clinton has a consistently liberal Senate voting record, earning near-perfect scores from Americans for Democratic Action."

This article shows just how meaningless the votes taken in Congress, on which interest groups and the dumb media judge Congresspeople, really are. Who cares how much additional money she votes to dump into ineffectual federal "education" programs when she is locked into an incestuous relationship with the most notorious union busters in America. Progressives need to stop worrying about how much federal pork a politician votes for, and start worrying about how much power to ordinary people a politician is willing to concede. Ideally, we wouldn't need politicians.
They "represent" us while the Howard Wolfson's and Mark Penn's "represent" both the "liberal" politician and some fat paying corporate, anti-labor clients as well.

Dig into Gore's or Edwards' circle of friends and you'll smell the same stench as the rotting dump in which Hilary plays her games.

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» How Much Power? Posted by: Sparks56
» RE: How Much Power? Posted by: Lincoln fan
A question about Hillary.
Posted by: TheTruthSeeker on May 18, 2007 2:27 AM   
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What's left after you take away $26 million and Slick Willie?

ANSWER: An empty pants suit.

Enough said.

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» RE: A question about Hillary. Posted by: Glennk1949
The nature of the beast....
Posted by: Michael Boldin on May 18, 2007 2:40 AM   
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On the one hand politicians like Hillary give a certain impression to us - to look good, while out the other side of their mouths they're buddying up with the people and ideals we oppose.

Politics and grandstanding - and big money backers - have gone hand in hand for literally ages.

A comment above said it would be ideal if we didn't have politicians - I agree. At this point, I'll still concede it's a necessary evil, but hopefully not forever. What we need to do is always be quite wary of what their real intentions are.

Some thoughts on this:

Beware of Politicians with Good Intentions - click here

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Hillary is a Corporate Chess Piece!
Posted by: HiTechCowBoy on May 18, 2007 3:02 AM   
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I want to point out what I believe are the two fundamental flaws in our system of government which have allowed our nation to evolve into the modern day equivalent of the empire our founding fathers revolted against and Chalmers Johnson writes about.

Those two aberrations are the legal principles that corporations have the same constitutional rights as citizens in this nation with the exception that they cannot vote and that monetary contributions in support of or in opposition to a candidate or an issue is considered free speech. It is my contention that absent those two constitutionally established policies, the United States would not have evolved into precisely the kind of empire our founding fathers rebelled against in 1776. Unfortunately, I believe it is to late by three generations to save our republic from economic, political, and social collapse because of the benefits those two anomalies have bestowed upon corporations in this country.

I believe our founding fathers grand experiment failed not because of lack of hindsight but because of their failure of foresight. In any case our nation has devolved into what would be the final chapter in Paul Kennedy's brilliant treatise on The Rise and Fall of the Great Powers.

Hillary Clinton is just another pawn on the corporate chess board.

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» Read Thom Hartmann on this Posted by: truthteller
The Lesser Evil: Her or the GOP 2008
Posted by: sofla100 on May 18, 2007 3:36 AM   
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Well, Hillary will likely be the Dem's candidate for President, and it will be her against one of the Repub. right wingers. Now, Hillary talks a good game and is wishy-washy and empty as this article points out, but at least she MIGHT vote for a few socially progressive causes. Your alternative is the Repubicans. That automatically means escalation of the American empire project, escalation of Mideast Wars, and even more tax breaks for the rich. Well, Hillary might give us most of this anyway as President, but she will let a couple more poor sick children in some town like Cleveland or Detroit see a doctor perhaps once a year. The lesser of two evils, once again.

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Politics is mere deception.
Posted by: chutzpah on May 18, 2007 3:43 AM   
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Why is it acceptable for politicians to solicit millions of dollars for their campaign from corporations, but it is not acceptable for the corporations to recoup their investment (cos that's what it is) when the politicians get into power? Money doesn't grow on trees you know.

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Hillary (Stepford Drone for the Mob) Clinton
Posted by: Hal on May 18, 2007 3:44 AM   
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Aside from possible exceptions in Kucinich and Ron Paul, contenders for poodle in chief @ Amerika Corp DC are sellout actors in the employ of Fascist organized corporate crime.

Hillary the most obvious of a bad lot...

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Big Fat DUH
Posted by: marxalot on May 18, 2007 3:52 AM   
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Thanks for this informative article.

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Universal
Posted by: Universal on May 18, 2007 3:57 AM   
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I read this article and wondered why it would take hundreds of words, to tell us that she is a corporate whore, class mercenary who would uphold, defend the most crimiinal aspects of Corporate fascism, such as the illegal war of agression, the dictatorial support by members of her own party for stripping legal rights and due process of hundreds of innocnet detainnees in CIA Prisons around the world.

Get a grip, Alternet writers, we do not need endless empirical evidence when most people already know, she is a war criminal, corporate thug, and ideological class whore, which is why the Corporate media and "bourgeois" feminists call her a "rock star", the designation of Corporate coronation by Corporate Media whores themselves defending Class despotism, class democracy, now having morphed into Class tyranny, dictatorship, and Class Empire, and still these ideological whores expect us to fall for their policies.

The reason the left calls these new forms of servile class elites, equal opportunity class mercenaries, "bourgeois", has nothing to do with the fact that she might be within a vague middle class, but because all middle layers, are institutionallly and wholesale corrupted by an oligarchy above, therefore shifting their moral, standards, universal values, which are inherent in any middle layer, to the right and far right, of class standards, depending on the tactical need for middle class shock troops, to defend Corporate fascism, as German Capitalism did when it financed these class thugs, like Hitler to defend property rights, over Human rights.

To defend Hillary Clinton, as one reader did below, stating that money does not affect Hillary liberal positions, is sheer ignorance, arrogance and hypocrisy. All middle layers subordinated by an oligarchy, Corporate capitalist class masters above, function as appeasing class thugs, because they are first and foremost defenders of class ideology, which coopted the Enlightenment, and their revolutionary liberals, whose goal was not only to overthrow the Feudal class system, its oligarchy, aristocracies and class elites, clerical religious layers, but to put into place a mechanism, social principle and democratic means, a universal middle class, without class masters above to institutionally corrupt, wholesale these revolutionary, moral standards, through the nation state as the means.

Instead it was converted, corrupted into class nationalism and Class Empire when the Class laws of Napoelon served the commercial capitalists, merchants, who traded in slavery for their profits, while claiming democracy and social wealth principle. To see how this affects the democratic party, which is itself a class party with class Liberals, just note that Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, and most democrats routinely accept AIPAC money, and go to their warmongering, cheerleading lobby, the Israeli lobby that promotes not only its own fascism, zionism, but Amerikan Empire that supports Israel war crimes.

Recently in Common Dreams, Stephen Zunes writes that Baracak Obama, Hillary and most democrats, have used the same bull shit lies by Israeli Nazis, all discredited by outside independent sources, that Hezbollah fighters were using the civilians as human shields, therefore the need to defend Israel and its war crimes, just like our own war crimes in Afghansitan, Iraq, Vietnam, Korea etc. The murder of hundreds of innocent Lebanese hundreds of thousands of Iraqis is not to be condemned, even after the democratic whores were aware of these fabrications. However, Israel has used Palestinian children as human shiled, caught several times on film, yet this is not condemned. She, Hillary,Barack Obama, and all democratic class hacks are hypocritical thugs, class whores, and time to get your own independent party without class standards, double standards, perod.

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So Hillary is a Corporate Shill
Posted by: Lincoln fan on May 18, 2007 4:44 AM   
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Don't be fooled. Whoever the Democrats back will be acceptable to their corporate sponsors. The party line will be,"We can run a candidate who is for the corporations, (they will refer to this as "electable") and win, or a candidate who is for the people. (they will refer to this as "unelectable") and lose". It works every time.

Candidates are a distraction. The real power in our governent is the corporate establishment that bought both parties. Our fight should be for control of both parties not a fight to choose between pro-corporate candidates.
Bob Reichenbach,
Director, The Lincoln Initiative.

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» RE: So Hillary is a Corporate Shill Posted by: psychochurch
As much as I loathe neocons and religious fundies
Posted by: apeshow on May 18, 2007 6:03 AM   
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I would never vote for her. She is no alternative and to think so is a fool's paradise. If its her against some Neanderthal like Thommy Thompson, I would vote for the neanderthal if I vote at all. One day America will wake up.

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Writing Off the Left
Posted by: sofla100 on May 18, 2007 6:16 AM   
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Politics is the "art of the doable" and we must be pragmatic. First off, yes, Hillary is a corporate shrill, pro-Israel (AIPAC bought and paid for) and she is very well moneyed by the corporate class. And yes, you can bet they (big corporate donors) will be EXPECTING a return on their investment. So, to be pragmatic, yes she, as all the Congressional members, Presidents, etc., have always done, will continue "returning goodies" to the corporate class once she is President (just as she has done as a Senator, be it tax cuts for the rich, "free trade," etc.). And, yes, much of this is very destructive and feeds into the American Empire Project. However, I do support the Dems. platform being as liberally modified as possible. No doubt, this platform is going to have to give some credence to getting out of Iraq, support for trade unions and some addressing of health care issues. Therefore, liberals and progressives need to work within the party for this. But, we must also be realistic and pragmatic. Remember, also as no doubt Hillary's spinmeisters and pollsters have already calculated, in a run against say Guilliani, Hillary is not going to worry a lot about the liberals and progressives. Because, who are they going to vote for? Nader possibly yes, if he runs, a few could do this, but they will never vote for Guilliani or a McCain. So, Hillary probably isn't worried a lot about the left and progressives, per a pragmatic analysis. Still, we should do what we can.

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» RE: Writing Off the Left Posted by: Lincoln fan
Ah, once again, the holier-than-thou crowd.
Posted by: Sojourner on May 18, 2007 6:22 AM   
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So American politicians have blood on their hands. Do tell? Look at your own. Unless you are homeless, your way of life is built on the exploitation of the Third World.

The point is that we are all in this together. Who will begin to move us in the right direction? Without leadership, all you can do is sit around in the peanut gallery and point your fingers.

Who dared to try to do something about national healthcare in 1992? The awful Hillary? What were you doing anything about in 1992? And it was Hillary's fault that Bush got elected and re-elected?

All the complaints about the life styles of the rich and famous make me sick. How else should the rich and famous behave? Yes, we are in the middle of a New Dark Ages. I don't expect miracles. We need to light some candles in our dark corners instead of throwing rotten eggs.

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» Hillary is blowing out our candles... Posted by: anotheropinion
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The Democrat Demimondaine and Consummate Pandering Politician
Posted by: wawa on May 18, 2007 6:56 AM   
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The Democrat Demimondaine and Consummate Pandering Politician is Hillary Clinton.

On February 1, 2007 Senator Hillary Clinton betrayed we the people of America in her prostituting and pandering address to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee/AIPAC.

Senator Clinton claimed, "Both Israelis and Americans know so well, a democracy is far more than just holding elections. Democracy has to spring from an active and open citizenry dedicated to tolerance, to respect for differences, to the rule of law, to policies that lift us up not tear us down as fellow human beings, and to the value of human life."


Jeff Halper, American Israeli, a 2006 Nobel Peace Prize Nominee, Founder and Coordinator of ICAHD/Israeli Committee Against House Demolitions has consistently affirmed that, "Israel is a not a democracy but is an Ethnocracy, meaning a country run and controlled by a national group with some democratic elements but set up with Jews in control and structured to keep them in control." [Chapter 2, Memoirs of a Nice Irish-American 'Girl's' Life in Occupied Territory]

When Israel became a state in 1948, it was contingent upon upholding the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights which guarantees in Article 13 that:

(1) Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each state.

(2) Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country.

Israel encourages any Jew without any pre-existing historical tie to the land to migrate under the Law of Return and all receive immediate citizenship and all rights and privileges including state-financed language and Jewish history immersion, free and subsidized housing, job placement and welfare assistance while seeking employment, medical, dental and other benefits.

Israel abetted by USA blind allegiance has blatantly refused to uphold UN Resolution 194, which guarantees the Right of Return-or compensation to the indigenous population which was forced from their homes in 1948 and 1967. Clinton is unmoved by the facts on the ground that the indigenous peoples of that land have been denied human rights and dignity and that they are illegally dominated and oppressed with the aid of USA's "$1.8 billion a year in military aid and $1.2 billion in economic aid, plus another $1 billion or so in miscellaneous grants, mostly in military supplies, from various U.S. agencies. Tax exempt contributions destined to Israel bring up the total to over $5 billion annually." [Page 24, Understanding the Palestine-Israeli Conflict, Dr. Phyllis Bennis. www.tari.org ]

Clinton continued to satisfy the ignoble lusts of AIPAC as she continued to deny the truth, " Israel is a beacon of what's right in a neighborhood overshadowed by the wrongs of radicalism, extremism, despotism and terrorism. We need only look to one of Israel 's greatest threats: namely, Iran . Make no mistake, Iran poses a threat not only to Israel , but to the entire Middle East and beyond... U.S. policy must be clear and unequivocal. We cannot, we should not, we must not, permit Iran to build or acquire nuclear weapons. And in dealing with this threat as I have said for a very long time, no option can be taken off the table."

TBC

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TBC, Part 2
Posted by: wawa on May 18, 2007 6:59 AM   
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On Feb. 10, 2007 , Dr. Phyllis Bennis, a secular Jew, journalist, prolific author, Mid East analyst and Co-founder and Co-Chair of the US Campaign to End the Israeli Occupation stated, " Iran has signed the NPT, which allows them the right to have nuclear power and to enrich uranium. The 185 non-nuclear states have agreed to give up the right to have nuclear weapons and the five nuclear powers that signed the NPT agreed to get rid of their nuclear weapons... Iran is not in violation of the NPT, but America is! The USA has been in violation ever since the day they signed it. The USA is acting like a rogue state. The rhetoric out of Washington , the arresting of Iranian diplomats in Iraq , are deliberate provocations hoping that the Iranians will take the bait and respond." http://www.wearewideawake.org/


At her AIPAC fundraiser, Clinton continued her pimping and denial of the facts on the ground, "We also know that the dangers posed to Israel have been compounded by the rise to power of Hamas, an avowed terrorist group that has assumed the reigns of the government in the Palestinian Authority and Hezbollah, the terrorist group that is represented in the Lebanese government. I have long said that Hamas must not be recognized until it renounces violence and terror and recognizes Israel 's right to exist...Hamas terror campaigns have claimed the lives of hundreds of innocent civilians and its leaders have refused to disarm, to reject violence, or even to recognize the right of Israel to exist. We must insist that Hamas and indeed all Palestinian parties renounce terror and recognize Israel "

Not only did the Palestinian Authority agree in 1988 to recognize Israel and reaffirmed this in 1993 during the Oslo Accords, Israel instead, persisted in its unabated relentless seizure of Palestinian land and resources.


On November 15, 2005 , Senator Hillary Clinton stood on the Jerusalem side of The Wall and was quoted in Ha'aretz, expressing support for The Wall because it "is against terrorists" and "not against the Palestinian people."

Senator Clinton,-as most of Congress- have NOT ventured to the other side of The Wall to view the economic and psychological effects of The Wall, which has been deemed illegal and must come down by the International Court of Justice in the Hague. [I address this in detail in "MEMOIRS of a Nice Irish-American 'Girl's' Life in Occupied Territory"]

After reading Senator Clinton's inaccurate, insensitive and pandering remarks in Ha'aretz, I immediately contacted her through her website, but my email bounced back, for I am no longer a New York constituent. This really got my Irish up, for unlike Senator Clinton, I was born and bred in New York and I am more New York than Hillary will ever be.

Not being one to ever give up, I then snail mailed Hillary a respectful letter expressing my distress over her obvious pandering and blatant denial of humanitarian and International Law and informed her of the many gaps and lack of 'security' along The illegal Wall that I knew about from my visits to Israel Palestine in June 2005 and in January, March and November 2006. Every taxi driver, would be 'terrorist' and I knew the way into Jerusalem from Bethlehem without going through security checkpoints and The Terminal.

The only response I received from Senator Clinton was to be put on the DNC's mailing list soliciting funds.

Clinton has continued to fuel the fire of my Irish ire during her hustling of AIPAC votes:

TBC Part 3

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TBC part 3, The Democrat The Democrat Demimondaine and Consummate Pandering Politician: Hillary Clin
Posted by: wawa on May 18, 2007 7:03 AM   
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Clinton persisted in her pandering for AIPAC funding:

"I was deeply saddened and outraged by the suicide bombing in Eilat this week. Some are saying that Eilat was bombed because Israeli's efforts at self-defense through its security fence have been so successful. But Eilat is a tragic reminder of the threats that Israel faces everyday and underscores the importance of our continued support for Israel 's right to protect and defend her people. The highest priority of any government is to ensure the safety and security of its citizens and that is why, as I have said, I've been a strong supporter of Israel 's right to build a security barrier to keep terrorists out. I have spoken out against the International Court of Justice for questioning Israel 's right to build that fence of security."



If The Wall were actually built on Israeli land, Clinton could get a pass on her procuring of Jewish votes, but a map of The Wall super-imposed upon Palestinian aquifers clearly illuminates that The Wall is all about grabbing land and resources from the indigenous peoples of that land.



Reported in the august, Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, "Financed with U.S. aid at a cost of $1.5 million per mile, the Israeli wall prevents residents from receiving health care and emergency medical services. In other areas, the barrier separates farmers from their olive groves which have been their families' sole livelihood for generations." [Page 43, Jan/Feb. 2007]

In Jeff Halper's April 2005 edition of "Obstacles to Peace, A Re-Framing of the Palestinian-Israeli Conflict" wrote, "Missing from Israel's security framing is the very fact of occupation, which Israel both denies exists...and that "security" requires Israel control over the entire country...rendering impossible a just peace based on human rights, international law, reconciliation." [Page 1]

During one of my four interviews with Jeff halper, he told me this joke:

"The Israeli government simply does not want to take responsibility and the USA government ignores the situation. Do you know why Israel does not want to become America 's 51st state? Because then they would only have two senators!"

They certainly have one vocal demimondaine and craving consummate pandering Senator who is currently lusting for the American Presidency.



http://www.wearewideawake.org/

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Our election system is severally flawed
Posted by: anthroman on May 18, 2007 7:12 AM   
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Elections have become a battle for money. This fact opens the door to corporate sponsors and gives more power to "business" than to the "people." Its our election structure and system that leads to this. Most money is raised to pay for TV adds. This not only intensifies the need for corporate money, but also negative attack based campaigns and polemic debates.

Its time to change how candidates are elected. We need to push for publicly funded elections. Candidates should all receive the same amount of funds from the gov't. This would make candidates more accountable to the people, rather than their corporate sponsors. Elections need to be about who has the best vision for the future, not who can raise the most money. At the same time we could limit the power of corporations as well as bring a more competitive atmosphere to politics. Candidates will be forced to better articulate their positions and visions for the future and we could hopefully move past our two party system, which doesn't come close to capturing the political positions of the American people.

Unfortunately, this will not happen by itself. Both parties enjoy our current hegemony and wouldn't change unless we begin to demand it. Our system is severally flawed and limits democracy, rather than promotes it. We'll always have candidates that pander to corporate power as long as we have a system that allows it.

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Hillary vs. Bill
Posted by: boing007 on May 18, 2007 7:45 AM   
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Anything you can do,
I can do better.
I can do anything
Better than you.

No, you can't.
Yes, I can. No, you can't.
Yes, I can. No, you can't.
Yes, I can,
Yes, I can!

Anything you can be
I can be greater.
Sooner or later,
I'm greater than you.

No, you're not. Yes, I am.
No, you're not. Yes, I am.
No, you're NOT!. Yes, I am.
Yes, I am!

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Hillary will do ALL the right things for ALL the right reasons once in office
Posted by: xbj on May 18, 2007 7:53 AM   
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Like all savvy and brilliant political candidates, she knows more than anyone else what it takes to win the Presidency in this country, AS IT EXISTS TODAY.

One has to win before one can change a damn thing. I am tired of people on the left lambasting her and doing the Nazi "right's" work FOR THEM, for her not commiting political suicide by telling the truth, nothing but the truth, so help her God.

That's what failures do. Go vote for your Ron Paul's; go vote for your Kucinich's, your Mike Gravel's IN THE PRIMARIES. Such men are the sacrificial consciences of their parties, and you or I have more a chance at being President than they do.

But quit berating Hillary and doing Rove's work FOR HIM for doing WHAT SHE HAS TO DO TO WIN.

The left and Democrats are going to just have to bite the idealism bullet AND BE REALISTIC if they're going to truly put DOWN THE NAZI GOP SCOURGE, THIS time.

It's THAT simple.

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» Oh, PLEASE. Posted by: mmeetoilenoir
a limit on spending on TV and radio advertising
Posted by: Suzon on May 18, 2007 7:57 AM   
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There is one thing that the British government does that is commendable which is to limit campaign spending or radio and television advertising.

In the runup to a general election, any party which qualifies as having a certain level of support is given a small number of free radio and television slots. A denial of free speech? If so, it's a defensible one in that it would do a lot to silence Big Money and therefore reduce its destructive influence on all political parties.

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Hillary and the Blue Pill Democrats by Kurt Nimmo
Posted by: rwa on May 18, 2007 7:59 AM   
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Sure, Democrats will argue, as the 2008 selection closes in, Hillary Clinton is less than perfect—but she’s better than the mob boss stand-in Rudy Giuliani or the Manchurian candidate, John McCain. In fact, we can bet the farm Democrats will once again take the blue pill, believing whatever they want to believe. Democrats will vote en masse, not unlike lemmings stampeding to the precipice, for Hillary or Obama, most likely Hillary as not so subtle indicators reveal she is the One.

Ari Berman, writing for the Nation, attempts to whack Democrats out of their blue pill slumber, for all the good it will do...

Indeed, Berman is correct on all points, but none of this matters much to Democrats, as simply being Democrats reveals the depth and severity of their stepfordized condition.

Come the 2008 selection, when voters are allowed to vote for the selected, it will not matter [that] Hillary Clinton attends Bilderberg meetings, along with Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands, daughter of the SS officer Prince Bernhard of Lippe-Biesterfeld, “life member” David Rockefeller, fellow Democrats Dianne Feinstein and John Edwards, George Soros, Alan Greenspan, Melinda Gates, former World Bank loan shark James Wolfensohn, and no shortage of Council on Foreign Relations members, transnational corporate CEOs, international banksters, and other lovers of one-world government...

Of course, for Hillary and her corporate backers—including Rupert Murdoch, who is fond of throwing fund-raisers for Clinton—all of us must “live in the real world,” that is to say a one-world as envisioned by the WTO, IMF, Inter-American Development Bank, World Bank, the so-called global financial services sector, the entire neoliberal panoply of thievery, looting, fire sales, and other criminal aspects of the “market fundamentalist” religion.

Democrats want ever so much to believe—and that is why they overlook the fact a “bevy of current and former Hillary advisers, including her communications guru, Howard Wolfson, are linked to a prominent lobbying and PR firm—the Glover Park Group—that has cozied up to the pharmaceutical industry and Rupert Murdoch. Her fundraiser in chief, Terry McAuliffe, has the priciest Rolodex in Washington, luring high-rolling contributors to Clinton’s campaign. Her husband, since leaving the presidency, has made millions giving speeches and counsel to investment banks like Goldman Sachs and Citigroup. They house, in addition to other Wall Street firms, the Clintons’ closest economic advisers, such as Bob Rubin and Roger Altman, whose DC brain trust, the Hamilton Project, is Clinton’s economic team in waiting. Even the liberal in her camp, former deputy chief of staff Harold Ickes, has lobbied for the telecom and healthcare industries, including a for-profit nursing home association indicted in Texas for improperly funneling money to disgraced former House majority leader Tom DeLay.”

Never mind the blue pill Democrats are steadily losing grip on that once hallowed ground known as the Great Middle Class. Instead, they are tilting toward the New Serfdom, enforced by a scientific dictatorship and monitored by panopticon industries.

Not to worry. Because there will be any number of placards to hoist and shiny balloons to unloose come 2008 at the Pepsi Center in Denver, never mind the venue or its all too appropriate name.

http://kurtnimmo.com/?p=868

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COMPARED TO KUCINICH, HILLARY IS A LIGHT WEIGHT ON WAR!
Posted by: HiTechCowBoy on May 18, 2007 8:01 AM   
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Kucinich on Supplemental: It’s About Oil




Washington, May 10 -


WASHINGTON, D.C. (May 10) — Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) released the following statement after the passage of the U.S. Troop Readiness, Veterans’ Care, Katrina Recovery, and Iraq Accountability Appropriations Act of 2007:

“There has been a broad deception about the content of the hydrocarbon law, a deception which has taken in members of Congress and the media. Misdescribed tactically as a revenue sharing plan, it is in fact a radical plan to privatize Iraq’s oil.

“The law before the Iraq Parliament contains 3 vague lines about revenue sharing and 33 solid pages of a complex legal restructuring, facilitating the privatization of Iraq’s oil resources. The sharing will not be 1/3 of 100%. The sharing is more likely to be 1/3 of 20% at most, after private oil interests take their cut. The stage is being set for theft on a historic scale.

“Iraq may have as much as 300 billion barrels of oil to be tapped. At a market value of $70 a barrel, the value of its oil may approach $21 trillion.

“In the past twenty four hours the Vice President made an extraordinary trip to Baghdad to urge the Iraqi Parliament to stay in session to pass a “hydrocarbon law” which provides for “revenue sharing.” Today, President Bush explicitly mentioned that he could come to an agreement if it included a benchmark for “sharing oil reserves.” This is the tone of the legislation which the House passed tonight.

“The legislative debate between the Congressional Democrats and the Republicans misses the point of the key issue regarding the invasion, occupation and long term US presence in Iraq - - oil.

“The attempted theft of the oil assets of Iraq under the guise of a plan to end the war will keep the war going long into the future.

“This is the time to be taking steps to end the U.S. occupation, stabilize Iraq, and give Iraqis full control of their oil assets.”

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Why I don't like or trust Hillary.
Posted by: WitchyNy on May 18, 2007 8:09 AM   
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1. She 'stood by her man' when he cheated on her. It was as though she would not punish him-so the rest of the country felt they had to do it for her.
Which was a shame-as he was a good President-and he did not, after all-cheat on the country!

2. Her husband did not pardon Leonard Peltier. They did not even tell him they were not going to...after giving him hope they would. Talk was that it would not have been good for Hillary's future politics.

3. She supports the war. Maybe it is just politics. I don't care. She supports the war.

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Revelation: Rich people have rich friends
Posted by: Philip Newton on May 18, 2007 8:12 AM   
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If we think we have anything other than a plutocracy, we ought to think again. We are ruled by the rich and Hillary is one of them.

She may be my least favorite of the bunch, but they all show green when you scratch them.

In the Labor Movement we have a saying: "We have no permanent allies, only permanent issues."

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Do you REALLY blame Bill for cheating?
Posted by: apeshow on May 18, 2007 8:39 AM   
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He never would have become president as a bachelor. She would be unknown today without Bill. They are symbiotic parasites. I think Bill bears the heavier load.

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No, Giuliani and the repubs are the corporate candidates
Posted by: fanny666 on May 18, 2007 8:30 AM   
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Let's not make Nader's mistake and spend more time criticizing the Democrats than we do criticizing the Republicans like Rudy Giuliani who, on every front, are worse.

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Marx was right
Posted by: mcstewey on May 18, 2007 9:13 AM   
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Corporate Capitalism, characterized as the individual ownership of property, the relentless pursuit of profit - including the elimination of competition - and a gov't that "stays out of the way of market forces", will inevitably be strongly interested in gaining political power to increase the bottom line. What results is a political system so interconnected with corporate interests it has almost become impossible to separate the two. The irony is that this country was largely founded on eliminating gov't & corporate connections (British royalty used big business to do many of its deeds). Sorry people, capitalism and any "true" sense of democracy just simply do not work together. Which will you choose?

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Wes Clark '08
Posted by: boing007 on May 18, 2007 9:33 AM   
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Tired of the same old same old? Think that political
problems can be solved with 30 second soundbytes
or playing to one's base? It's not that simple.
Link to this WesPAC site:
http://securingamerica.com/node/2425

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Billary was bad enough, let's not have Hillbilly too
Posted by: DCostello2 on May 18, 2007 9:39 AM   
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It's those "good Democrats" that are going to elect Hillbilly. The same "good Democrats" that elected Billary - TWICE. I can forgive those "good Democrats" for electing Billary - ONCE. But, as the adage goes: Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me three times, I'm an idiot and get what I deserve. Vote for Hillbilly and get fooled again.

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Corporate Shill? A Horse is a Horse, of course!
Posted by: djnoll on May 18, 2007 9:40 AM   
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It is apparent that this country's political parties no longer represent the People or their concerns. Hillary is a living example of the hypocrisy and poisonous type of politicians that are destroying our country. Any person who thinks that they will get anything better than George Bush in Drag if they vote for this person is a fool of the greatest order. This woman is as dangerous as Dick Cheney and a slick as Bush, and the sad fact is that she is smarter than both, making for a lethal combination. She wants the power that she was denied in her husband's presidency and when she gets it, you will see one of the most ruthless people on this planet in action. God help us all then, because no one else will!

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Why the Question Mark?
Posted by: patsy6 on May 18, 2007 10:04 AM   
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Great article, but why is there a question mark at the end of the headline? She's been in the hands of the big corporations for several years now.

I live in NY State. I voted for Hillary Clinton in 2000, but that was the first and only time she got my vote. She has lost my vote forever over her authorization of a pre-emptive strike in Iraq, her refusal to admit her vote was wrong, her refusal to apologize for it and for refusing to distance herself from corporate cronies. She didn't get my vote in 2006 and, if she get's the nomination, this life long Democrat is turning Green in 2008.

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To those who'd rather be right than be President
Posted by: Sojourner on May 18, 2007 10:10 AM   
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Stay out of politics, which is about winning. Until you win, you're just another loser.

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The long line at the trough of Ego, Power and Greed
Posted by: blueapples26 on May 18, 2007 10:19 AM   
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Again…Does this surprise any of us? Didn’t think so….Most if not all of congress feeds from the same trough. The secret trade agreement made between the white house and the democratic leaders of congress is just another in a long line of deals that tighten the death grip of unending wage slave servitude for all of us. Nothing will change unless we stop hoping that the people who are doing this will have an epiphany and realize there misguided ways. What will it take for us to realize writing words of complaint and hoping to pierce there armor of focused unabashed gluttony of ego, power and greed at the expense of all life on this planet is futile? I find this quote regarding hope from Derrick Jensen very pertinent for us at this moment in our history. “And when you quit relying on hope, and instead begin to protect the people, things, and places you love, you become very dangerous indeed to those in power. In case you’re wondering, that’s a very good thing”. The institutions of these most potent of aphrodisiacs have entrained us since childhood to obey them blindly without question since time immemorial. We as species are at a crossroads. We can decide to be automatons in this race to oblivion or we can stand and dismantle these illusionary edifices of western culture. There are no next steps. We must now do.

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What sort of choice have we got?
Posted by: Democritus on May 18, 2007 10:34 AM   
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Great wads of corporate money go to Hillary. Other great wads go to Mitt and Rudy. Big business is hoping money wins, because if it does they can't lose. There's not a dime's worth of difference between Hillary and Mitt except for the rhetoric. Hillary talks progressive talk, but walks the corporate walk. Mitt talks right-wing talk to play down his liberal record as Governor of Massachusetts. Real progressives should support Dennis Kucinich or Mike Gravel. At least they tell the truth. If the money wins, progressives should walk over to the Green Party, because their vote won't count.

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Good Points/Too Long to Say It
Posted by: mrsmagoo on May 18, 2007 11:15 AM   
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I stopped reading the article after the 2 page because it kept repeating the same theme. ALL politicians, including Hillary Clinton are corrupt and beholden to their corporate pimps. And until enough of us get mad enough to revolt to make a point, nothing will change. I will NEVER vote for Hillary. She is too much of a polarizing figure. The press will continue to bang her drum loudly so all Americans will believe that she is the best thing since sliced bread. May a higher power have mercy upon us all!

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For the record
Posted by: Stop bush now on May 18, 2007 11:21 AM   
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My 17 year old daughter will NOT be voting for hillary next year.

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What Does Hillary, Obama and Edwards All Have In Common?
Posted by: freethink7 on May 18, 2007 11:44 AM   
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All three support AIPAC and Israel's unabated criminal behavior with regards to unethical/illegal occupation in Palestine and apartheid in Palestine. Also, all three of them support the criminal-illegal-unethical war in Iraq where nearly a million innocent people have been tortured and died needlessly. (oh, and they all three support upcoming criminal/unethical Iran war).

sources - google/it's all over the Internet

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The plain TRUTH about Hillary Rodham Clinton.
Posted by: TheTruthSeeker on May 18, 2007 2:25 PM   
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In today's dangerous world, the American people need a commander-in-chief who understands what military leadership is all about.

Slick Willie's understudy is NOT that person. It takes a lot more than a hovering husband, paste-on smiles, big campaign bucks and 30-second sound bites to earn the respect of our fighting men and women.

If you’d like to help keep Bill Clinton's unqualified sidekick from becoming our 44th president, visit Stop-Hillary.com.

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Prominent NEOCON endorses Hillary Clinton by clarquistador
Posted by: rwa on May 18, 2007 3:26 PM   
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Yes folks, you read the headline correctly and no you are not dreaming. A prominent NEOCON has endorsed Hillary for the nomination because he believes that having her as President would enable the discredited neocons to reconstitute their power under a Democratic presidency.

So who is this neocon? He is none other than Bruce Bartlett, a supply-side loving economist who held positions under Reagan and Poppy Bush as well as a prominent writer for the National Review. Here is the gist of his logic:

"It is in this context that one must evaluate Sen. Clinton’s position. Given the views of the Democratic base and the enormous unpopularity of the Iraq War, it is a real act of courage for her to steadfastly refuse to say her vote for the war was wrong. Of course, like all Democrats and most Americans, she opposes the war today and favors a rapid pullout."

So the fact that Hillary is a neocon warmonger, and because she refuses to apologize in any way shape or form for her Iraq vote, means that she'll receive neocon support. That's great, I'm really looking forward to the day Hillary sends our men and women in uniform into the deserts of Iran.

Why else are these ideological rejects supporting Clinton? Well, they like her economic philosophy as well:

"On economics, it is reasonable to assume that Sen. Clinton’s policies would not be altogether different from Bill Clinton’s. This is not a bad thing. On trade, his record was outstanding, and on the budget was far better than George W. Bush’s. While Clinton raised taxes in 1993, it should be remembered that he cut them in 1997, including a cut in the capital gains tax. On regulatory policy, Clinton was no worse than the current administration and probably better on net."


Democrats know all this, which is why our most liberal pundits, like Bob Kuttner, are attacking Sen. Clinton for being a clone of her husband on economics and criticizing her support for “Rubinomics,” named after former Treasury Secretary Bob Rubin. Its essential elements are a commitment to deficit reduction and globalization — which are both anathema to the party’s liberal base [which] wants a hard line against imports to save jobs and an expansive fiscal policy to pay for a wide range of new social programs.
So, let me get this straight.....neocons are supporting Hillary Clinton because she supports unbridled free-trade, depleted social benefits, and more war...

I know I'm going to get flamed by the Hillaristas (and I guarantee you not one of them will make a logical rebuttal of this, they'll just post some lame polls showing Hillary in the lead with 35%). But this stuff needs to come to light. All too often, beneath the facade of Hillary worship, is the tacit understanding that Hillary Clinton is a neocon. Neocons have destroyed our country by decimating its manufacturing capacity and they have started a bullsh1t war in Iraq. Furthermore, the have a long-term agenda of rooted in attacking every country in the Middle East (Wes Clark exposed this fact a few years ago).

The biggest mistake we as Dems can make is to assume that neocons are finished in this country. They are not. They are clever and will figure of ways to reconstitute their powers and to redefine their deluded ideology under the administration of a Conservative Democrat. After all, that's what guys like Perle, Wolfowitz, Libby, and Feith really are......Conservative Democrats (they were all Dems until the 1970s).

Mark my words folks, Hillary Clinton will welcome the neocons into her administration. And it is our obligation to get the word out before its too late.

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Hillary is A NEOCON Dream
Posted by: sofla100 on May 18, 2007 4:15 PM   
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The biggest danger with Hillary is her strong support of the American Empire Project. In this regard, she is very much in accordance with nut jobs like Perle and Wolfowitz. With Hillary also we have to seriously look at the fact that she is a self-proclaimed "strong supporter of the Jewish state." That means Iran will be targeted for invasion and Iraq will continue or even intensify as a war zone. On domestic economics, she has already proven she will do as told by the big banks and corporate honchos. As for where the right-wing and neocons stand, some of them already are "subtlely" lining up with Hillary. How are they doing this? First of all, they can't yet really endorse her outright, after all "she is Hillary." But, like Dobson, several of the religious righters have already expressed strong disdain for Guilliani and McCain. Now, all they have to do is back away from any potential Republican candidates, then the right wing coalition will fracture for this electon cycle (but they maintain still there "right wing" credentials by not officially endorsing a "female" for President like Hillary) and then, Hillary will be elected. And, they win! The neocons especially will be extremely gleeful of a Hillary President, who no doubt will be dusting off the war plans, having the Israeli ambassador over daily for lunch, and "persuing the war on terror." As for the more "religious" of the right wing , well Hillary will still be OK because she at least supports the moneyed class (which is mostly what they are all about really anyway), and besides they have to lick their wounds for a while after George.

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Hillary? A Neocon's dream? Pul-leaze...
Posted by: xbj on May 18, 2007 4:30 PM   
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I suggest you look up the word "feint" and "feinting".

It's a boxing term. It has applications in politics. It's what you have to do to knock out an opponent.

Back in the 70's we'd call it a "fake out".

Jesus Christ gave the best damn advice anyone could ever give and He said "KNOW THEM BY THEIR WORKS."

Know them by what they've DONE; not by what they SAID they would do; not by what they SAY they WILL do; but by WHAT THEY ACTUALLY DID THE FIRST TIME AROUND.

Eight years of the longest running peacetime expansion in all of American history. A balanced budget for the first time since what, the Depression? One war, waged by NATO, NOT the US, in which NOT A SINGLE AMERICAN DIED. And lasted what, THREE WEEKS? After every GOP Nazi and pundit predicted that it would be WWIII and Armageddon wrapped up into one?

KNOW THEM BY THEIR WORKS.

Nice try, Rove dogs. Truth and history are going to kick your sorry asses every last time.

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Opportunistic carpetbagger
Posted by: doctorsquared on May 18, 2007 4:34 PM   
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is what she is. How in the name of all that which does not suck did she ever become a state senator after having lived in NY for only a couple years? And her record as a legislator of the loyal opposition has been right in line with the neocons. I REALLY hope she does not win the Dems' nomination.

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I can't stand this woman!
Posted by: vangogh69 on May 18, 2007 5:03 PM   
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Get past that gargolian smile and there's quite the reptile underneath. Funny how she, who due to "Faulty Intelligence" (hehe, it does sound funny) voted for the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq WHILE TO THIS DATE SAYING NOTHING OF HER HUSBAND'S DECADE LONG BOMBING CAMPAIGN PRIOR TO HIS LEAVING OFFICE! Oh wait, it didn't happen according to the US media who among other things fails to mention her latent support for the "War on Cocoa" in Colombia. God! Also funny how she goes on about "reforming healthcare" while not in the least bit addressing the underlying economic system which benefits mightily from the current set-up. (And just to combine issues, how about her silence on Clinton's bombing of the medicine factory in Africa? Talk about a War on Terror! Who knew!)

Since she's so good at raising money, perhaps she can talk about getting the minimum wage lifted to A LIVING WAGE??? Am I asking too much? Ugh, put her and Pelosi in the same spa and let them soak if you ask me.

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GOOD NEWS... SHILLS' HYSTERIA HERE PROVES THEY ARE TERRIFIED OF HILLARY
Posted by: xbj on May 18, 2007 5:58 PM   
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Good news! The abundance of hysterical shills here proves that the enemy is TERRIFIED of Hillary and the return to peacetime prosperity, a balanced budget, wars that last ONLY THREE WEEKS without a SINGLE AMERICAN CASUALTY run by REAL coalitions like NATO, and worldwide love and respect for Americans AND America instead of hatred, revulsion, and wishing it would be wiped off the face of the earth.

I'd be terrified too if I was a Nazi war profiteering bastard like the shills and their bosses here.

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Just a Bit Depressing and to the Right of Bill
Posted by: sofla100 on May 18, 2007 7:12 PM   
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Boy, it seems with Hillary, people either love her or hate her. As for those who criticize, (the critizers of Hillary), consider that ultimately, you probably are the winners anyway. Why? I think it's a good chance Hillary will be the next Pres. Also, as far as people like myself, and others here who are not wild about Hillary and who it is we will ultimatly vote for in the next Presidential race, we will not have much of a choice anyway. It's either not vote, throw your vote away if Nader or a 3rd party is in the race, or vote for Hillary. I mean, none of us are going to vote for a McCain or a Guilliani anyway, that is just crazy. But, here is the problem we who are critical of Hillary have. She did have so much potential, so much intellectual capability, and to see her swing to the right on the war issues is just very depressing. To see her fudging when it came to bankrupty reform (to support the big banks) and her support of so-called "free trade" (at the expense of worker jobs domestically and worker rights overseas) was also very depressing. To see her support of defense spending, the military, and Israeli expansionism is also very depressing. Now, it is not that Hillary has not supported progressive causes, as she has. It's just that it's sad when we see the other things, like the American Empire project (she supports) that it is such a big shame. Lastly, I would remind her supporters, she is not Bill either. So, don't think she is going to just do what he did once in office, I really do think she is a bit to the Right of him.

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ARE PROGRESSIVES AND SOLID DPers GOING TO WHIPSAWED BY THE CORPORATE ELITE AGAIN IN 2008?
Posted by: poppop_schell on May 18, 2007 8:39 PM   
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Yes. Heres i how we are whipsawed.

IF you don't vote for Clinton, look at the horror you'll get with the GOP candidate. And the GOP establishment candidate will make the point that look what you'll get IF Hillary runs. The electorate is being whipsawed as our beloved Republic sinks deeper into the dustbin of history.

IF you KNOW Kucinich ( or another non-establishment DP candiadte) is the REAL thing (i.e. not bought by the establishment and an "outsider" with DP leadership) then fight tooth and nail for him. Don't let the argument "he can't win" talk you into of "holding your nose" and voting for Hillary. There is NOT much time left for our great country.

I like KUcninich even though on many issues we differ. My candidate is Congressman Ron Paul.

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A question for Hillary lovers who think Bill will enhance her presidency.
Posted by: TheTruthSeeker on May 19, 2007 10:49 PM   
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What happens if he croaks during her first month in office?

While you think about that, here’s another question to ponder: William Jefferson, who brought us NAFTA which is destroying the economic future of middleclass Americans and the working poor, accepted $500,000 to lobby for Dubai during the U.S. ports takeover fiasco. How patriotic was that?

ANSWER: It was treasonous, not patriotic.

The Dubai sell-out deal also showed how greedy the Clintons are. I have a 43-year-old daughter who works her butt to make $25,000 a year. She would have to labor 20 years to make what Slick Willie did in one weekend.

I voted twice for the selfish, unprincipled, draft-dodging bastard -- the biggest mistake I ever made and I'm 71 years old. Yeah, he’s a class act. Getting blow jobs from Monica in the Oval Office, jerking off on her dress and sticking Cuban cigars up her twat. Pardon me while I puke.

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Hillary Clinton
Posted by: Balans on May 20, 2007 3:22 AM   
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Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, and most democrats routinely accept AIPAC money, and go to their warmongering, cheerleading lobby, the Israeli lobby that promotes not only its own fascism, zionism, but Amerikan Empire that supports Israel war crimes.

Thanks, Novice

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ATTENTION Billary bashers!
Posted by: TheTruthSeeker on May 20, 2007 10:46 AM   
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If you want to poke fun at Hillary in public, visit Stop-Hillary.com and follow its suggestions.

P.S. to spam sheriffs: This comment was accidentally posted on the "Religious Right" thread. Sorry.

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"AIPAC" means…
Posted by: HughScott on May 20, 2007 3:13 PM   
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Arrogant Israeli Power Against Civilians.

Like using IDF helicopter gunships to kill innocent pedestrians in Palestine and doing the same thing in Lebanon with cluster bombs and 2,000-lb depleted uranium bunker busters. Considering the cowardly carnage caused by King David's progeny, he has to be spinning in his grave.

Having visited Dachau and the Ann Frank House while touring Europe, I used to be an ardent supporter of Israel – when it followed humanistic Hebrew law. Now, sadly, because of the fascist Likud Party, King David's once righteous warriors have become spineless neocons. Like their PNAC pals in America.

Even more ironic, PM Olmert invaded Lebanon with faulty intelligence, poorly prepared troops and no viable exit strategy. A mirror image of his incompetent non-Kosher crony, Blunderbuss Bush.

Finally, regards to "xbj" with a single-finger hand salute.

Cheers, Hugh E. Scott (TheTruthSeeker)

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NEWS FLASH for Billary lover “xbj.” (GOTCHA, Sweetie!)
Posted by: TheTruthSeeker on May 20, 2007 6:56 PM   
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Excerpts from CounterPunch.org article titled, “Hillary Clinton, AIPAC and Iran” by Joshua Frank (01/26/06).

…AIPAC's hypocrisy is stomach-turning, to say the least. The goliath lobbying organization wants Iran to be slapped across the knuckles while the crimes of Israel continue to be ignored. And who is propping up AIPAC's hypocritical position? Senator Hillary Clinton of New York.

As the top Democratic recipient of pro-Israel funds for the 2006 election cycle thus far, pocketing over $58,000 as of October 31 last year, Senator Clinton now has Iran in her cross-hairs.

During a Hanukkah dinner speech delivered on December 11, hosted by Yeshiva University, Clinton prattled, "I held a series of meetings with Israeli officials [last summer], including the prime minister and the foreign minister and the head of the [Israeli Defense Force] to discuss such challenges we confront."

"In each of these meetings, we talked at length about the dire threat posed by the potential of a nuclear-armed Iran, not only to Israel, but also to Europe and Russia. Just this week, the new president of Iran made further outrageous comments that attacked Israel's right to exist that are simply beyond the pale of international discourse and acceptability."

"During my meeting with Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, I was reminded vividly of the threats that Israel faces every hour of every day ... It became even more clear how important it is for the United States to stand with Israel ..."

As Sen. Clinton embraces Israel's violence, as well as AIPAC's duplicitous Iran position, she simultaneously ignores the hostilities inflicted upon Palestine, as numerous Palestinians have been killed during the recent shelling of the Gaza Strip. Over the past weeks Israel continues to mark the occupied territories (they call 'buffer zones') like a frothing-mouth K9 on the loose.

Hillary Clinton's silence toward Israel's brutality implies the senator will continue to support AIPAC's mission to occupy the whole of the occupied territories, as well as a war on Iran in the future. AIPAC's right -- even President Bush appears to be a little sheepish when up against Hillary "warmonger" Clinton.

QUESTION for “xbj”: What say you now about Billary?

I’ll be waiting for an answer, Sweetie. By the way, crow tastes best when barbequed. Have a good day.

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Yo.....Generalissimo Scott...'xbj'....Why don't you two...
Posted by: ekipnrut on May 20, 2007 7:21 PM   
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go on and get a bottle, a stack of porn DVDs and a room in a cheap Tijuana motel...Si...?? That way you can work thru your fantasies about one another....ALL NIGHT LONG...leaving Alternet for people who wish to, for the most part, address political ,cultural,socio/economic and science based issues.
(ps ..Scott..make whirring and buzzing sounds like from a 30's
era sci fi matinee movie serial...tell her you got some 'scalar'
stuff to whip on her...she'll do anything.. :O))

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Hillary: the corporate candidate
Posted by: maryfens@earthlink.net on May 20, 2007 8:10 PM   
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Duh.

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go hill!
Posted by: libkid on May 20, 2007 9:44 PM   
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She's wonderful. I love her. I can't wait to cast my vote for her.
Let's be serious shall we? Every candidate needs money or they can't run. Dur. She can't be any different.
Stop trying to make her an alien just because she is female.
I don't see anyone jumping up demanding John Edwards change his corporate involvement.
Shut up to anyone who hates women.

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» RE: go hill! Posted by: xbj
BOTTOM LINE- HILLARY WILL BE INFINITELY PREFERABLE TO ANY NAZIGOP ALTERNATIVE
Posted by: xbj on May 21, 2007 6:09 AM   
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Of course, Hugh Scott aka "Truth" Seeker will have something inane, stupid, hateful, and completely nonsensical to say about that because he pathologically must always get the last word, and he pathologically always must bash Hillary and Bill, but that won't change the simple fact of reality:

That any possible NaziGOP alternative that will actually WIN the NaziGOP nomination will be far worse than Hillary.

Infinitely worse. In EVERY POSSIBLE way.

And there is just no argument against that simple fact.

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» RE: Harry Reid has cojones??? Posted by: Illiteratilumen
HILARY - THE "CORPORATIST" CANDIDATE
Posted by: pfm on May 21, 2007 11:44 AM   
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For anyone who is willing to spend a few moments looking at her record as well as the record of her husband, it is inconceivable one will not quickly deduce both are card carrying and water carrying members for the “corporatists” elite and puppets spouting their veiled and cloaked mantra. But they are not the only members to this club as it for the most part includes most all current and past members of Congress the Senate, past Presidents, as well as members of the military hierarchy. Aside from possibly Bernie Sanders, Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul, I do not know of others who might possible not be an appendage of “corporate” America or multinational corporate interests.

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Rebel Ruggles
Posted by: Raymond Ruggles on May 30, 2007 11:26 AM   
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Bill Clinton was a slick SOB and he even made it so our social security is taxed which is forbidden! He destroyed legitimate social welfare and kissed ass with the richest and most powerful. He bombed Somalia so we would forget Monica. He bombed Iraq constantly and defended the genocidal sanctions that may have killed one and a half million Iraqis. Hillary is cut from the same cloth but is said to be a woman. She is an elitist that was just as guilty as Billy back before he was appointed pres. They had dirty dealings going all the time and her idea of healthcare is just more of the same. Big daddy pharma and the insurance companies that are killing us. Boo to her, Obama and all of them bums.

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