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California Professor Is Font of Anti-Semitism

By Heidi Beirich, SPLC Intelligence Report. Posted May 3, 2007.


A multiracial Southern California campus would seem to be the last place to find a tried and true anti-Semite and white supremacist lecturing, but it's where Kevin B. MacDonald, "Marx of the anti-Semites" has a teaching post.

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LONG BEACH, Calif. -- California State University, Long Beach (CSULB), is a multicultural wonderland, with classrooms filled by Golden Staters whose ancestors came to this lively, diverse beach community from every corner of the world. Double-stocked with both an Office of Equity and Diversity and a Multicultural Center, CSULB openly proclaims its commitment to educating all of California’s students, regardless of income, race, creed or national origin.

Given its diverse student body, it would seem that CSULB would be the last place to find a tried and true anti-Semite and white supremacist lecturing. But that is where Kevin B. MacDonald, a 63-year-old man who developed a deep-seated mistrust for Jewish activists while protesting the Vietnam War, is employed as the psychology professor for those seeking degrees in child development.

From an office inside the bunker-like, six-story Psych building, a tall, thin, bespectacled MacDonald pumps out pages and pages of material on how Jews are genetically driven to destroy Western societies. According to MacDonald, who considers himself an evolutionary psychologist, Jews, who have typically been in the minority in countries around the world, are compelled by an evolutionary strategy that makes them push for liberal policies, like immigration and diversity, with the intent of weakening the power of the majority that rules them.

Ultimately, MacDonald blames the death of millions on "the failure of Jewish assimilation into European societies" and even suggests that "parity" between Jews and gentiles could be reestablished by discriminating against Jews in college admissions and establishing taxes to reduce "the Jewish advantage" in wealth.

MacDonald’s three-volume set of books on Jews and their destructive tactics is devoured by anti-Semites the world over. Not since Hitler’s Mein Kampf have anti-Semites had such a comprehensive reference guide to what’s wrong with "the Jews." His work is widely advertised and touted on white supremacist websites and sold by neo-Nazi outfits like National Vanguard Books, which considers them "the most important books of the last 100 years." For years, MacDonald defended his research as apolitical and scientific, but that defense fell apart after the millennium, when MacDonald embarked on a white supremacist speaking tour. Last December, MacDonald dropped the defense altogether and declared his dislike for Jews.

"I have come to the point of seeing my subjects in a less than flattering light," the professor wrote on his kevinmacdonald.net website.

CSULB is not the first campus to employ an academic racist on its professorial staff. But what makes MacDonald’s case unique is that he was able to reach the heights of his profession, securing a post on the executive council of the professional body for evolutionary psychologists, all the while producing "research" now widely viewed as anti-Semitic. His work on Jewish evolutionary psychology made it into peer-reviewed publications and was taken seriously by many Ph.D.s. At CSULB, MacDonald sailed through his post-tenure review and was awarded sabbaticals and choice committee assignments (he currently serves on the Scholarly and Creative Activities Committee).

MacDonald filled his university website with racist and anti-Semitic materials, using some of them in his classes. Even when his connections to a prominent Holocaust denier were made public in 2000, the reaction from his department and the university’s administration was silence. By last year, MacDonald had been awarded $10,000 by one racist outfit for his anti-Semitic research and was appointed as an adviser to another. Through it all, MacDonald did not suffer one official word of censure until late 2006, when general resolutions from his department opposing the use of academic research by hate groups and applauding diversity were enacted (these resolutions were prompted by inquiries from a writer for the Intelligence Report). Instead, he was given rewards.

MacDonald refused repeated requests from the Report for comment over the course of several months, writing on his personal website that he had "no confidence" that he would be treated in a "non-biased way."

A Bohemian discovers the Jews

A former flower child and anti-Vietnam War activist, MacDonald was born in Oshkosh, Wis., to a middle-class family with a police officer dad. Raised in Joseph McCarthy’s home state in the midst of that senator’s anti-communist witch-hunts, MacDonald attended Catholic schools and played basketball. He enrolled at the University of Wisconsin in the early 1960s, majoring in philosophy. An ardent peacenik in college, MacDonald abandoned Catholicism and joined the anti-war movement. It was during these years that MacDonald would later admit he began to have suspicions about the motives of his Jewish fellow protesters. After school, MacDonald pursued the bohemian lifestyle of a jazz pianist, a career that ultimately failed. Not long after the fall of Saigon in 1975, he returned to the university campus.


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IT'S BAAAAAACK!!
Posted by: yellow on May 3, 2007 1:20 AM   
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Anti-semitism is back with a vengeance. All one really needs as proof is many of the postings on several of the Alternet threads dealing with Israel or any topic that broaches the Jews, middle east, War in Iraq, etc. The Jews have always been the scapegoat. I can't help but suspect that if Kevin McDonald's chief pre-occupation was with African-Americans and not Jews he'd have been long gone.

Anti-semitism is rampant in this society and gets worse every year. Much of it is disguised as "criticism of Israel." Of course, such "criticism" usually accuses the Jews as a group of controlling the entire media, the government, and all the politicians as well as the US political agenda for decades. It further, places the responsibility for the Iraq War and the entire Bush Administration foreign policy squarely on the shoulders of all Jews despite the fact that there are no Jewish neo-cons left in the Bush Administration and that about 75% of the Jewish vote went to John Kerry in the 2004 national election. It is never acknowledged that the Jewish neo-cons in the Bush Administration don't represent the US Jewish community just because they happen to be Jews.

McDonald's work is disturbing because it goes well beyond the aimless, xenophobic, jingoistic, frenetic ravings in Hitler's Mein Kampf. It is first given an air of legitamacy of science. It also panders to the mass fears of the general US public of immigration and xenophobia with regard to terrorism. McDonald exploits the US population's insecurity in a post 9/11 world and puts the Jews front and center blaming them for an increasingly unpopular war and for the seemingly uncontrolable flow of immigrants that is the result of decades of economic globalization.

McDonald has scarcely been criticized by his colleagues. This is what is really frightening.

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» RE: IT'S BAAAAAACK!! Posted by: Bree in Idaho
» RE: IT'S BAAAAAACK!! Posted by: yellow
» RE: IT'S BAAAAAACK!! Posted by: icj
» Yellow Posted by: icj
» RE: Yellow Posted by: yellow
What are the facts?
Posted by: edith on May 3, 2007 1:29 AM   
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"Despite the fact that Jews constitute less than 3 percent of the US population, the Holocaust has become a cultural icon as a direct result of Jewish activism and influence in the media, Israel has become a sacred cow in American politics, and the role of Jewish organizations in helping unleash massive multiethnic immigration into the U.S., as well as engineering the current American involvement in Iraq, goes unmentioned in public debate," MacDonald said."

What part of the above exerpt of MacDonald's work, with the possible exception of currrent US involvement in Iraq, which was engineered by both neo-zionists in the Bush Administration as well as hawks like Cheney and Rumsfeld with strong ties to pro-zionist organizations and individuals, is untrue?

Macdonald may indeed dabble in quack science at times when it comes to race, but the basic thesis that Jews have an evolutionary stategy of survival which necessarily implies a drive to succeed and dominate professions like law, medicine, finance and media can be tested and shown to be valid, at least in the US and nations like Britain, Canada, South Africa and Russia.

Indeed, there are theories by responsible scientists which hold that the success of Ashkenazic Jews is due to marriage between cousins, marriage within a limited population ghetto, and breeding between families that contain large numbers of scholars. Jews for legitimate reasons elevated scholarhship to a very high value and status in E. European culture which still redounds in the descendents of Ashkenazic Jews who live in the US, Israel and other Western nations. This has lead to great financial success which is reflected in IQ levels, job status and professional rewards. A disproportionate number of Nobel Prize winners are Jewish, which is not a reason to deny Nobel Prizes to Jews.

Yet it is valid for an individual like Macdonald to question this social phenomenon, since Jewish success in various professions does mean that non-Jews have less of a chance to succeed. Jewish organizations, like other successful groups in America like Mormons, Armenians and old-line Protestant famililes, themselves promote continued group pride and participation in the most influential professions and institutions. Thus opportunities for networking and favortism towards upwardly mobile young Jews may exceed opportunities for non-Jewish entrants to professional fields.

After all, is there no possibility that the preeminence of members of the same ethnic group in an area of expertise will not result in favorable bias, conscious or unconscious, by members of that group toward new entrants to that area of expertise?

It seems Macdonald is criticized for asking questions about social roles and dominance of one group that in fact plays the roles he descirbes. Would he be criticized if he used WASPs as his study group instead of Jews?

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» In your case...... Posted by: ekipnrut
» But you see...... Posted by: ekipnrut
» fair enough.... Posted by: ekipnrut
» What are the "factoids" Edith? Posted by: zipper696
» Most Americans... Posted by: LeftCoastProgressive
» Where are the facts? Posted by: LeftCoastProgressive
» RE: Where are the facts? Posted by: edith
» RE: Where are the facts? Posted by: DaBear
» RE: Beware the Nepotists!!! -nm Posted by: lessbread
» RE: What are the facts? Posted by: Bree in Idaho
» RE: What are the facts? Posted by: edith
» RE: What are the facts? Posted by: Bree in Idaho
» RE: What are the facts? Posted by: politicky
» RE: What are the facts? Posted by: yellow
» RE: What are the facts? Posted by: Fairplay
» RE: What are the facts? Posted by: yellow
» RE: What are the facts? Posted by: aonghus36
» RE: What are the facts? Posted by: yellow
M.O.T.
Posted by: ggg on May 3, 2007 4:50 AM   
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I am a Jew and I am feeling totally left out! Whenever I hear about these amazing Jewish conspiracies to take over the world, it makes me angry. Not because I am offended by the idea, but because I can’t ever find any of them! Please, if there are any Jews reading this who can point me in the right direction, I want in!

I also hear a lot about how we unfairly favor our own kind in business matters - sounds good to me! But how come when I went down to the cell phone store owned by those two Israeli guys, and claimed I should get a ‘tribal discount’ they just threw me out. Since you are an authority on our secret ways, Mr. MacDonald, please tell me what I did wrong. Was I supposed to show I.D.? Is there a secret handshake?

I am beginning to suspect that none of these Jewish conspiracies actually exist. Dammit!

It seems to me that Mr. MacDonald’s 'big discovery' that Jews have used collective strategies to survive and advance their interests, is pretty much a non-statement, no more worthy of discussion than the fact that *every* ethnic group in the US, (and the world) has used various commonalities as a basis for social bonding, and coordinating social, economic and political activity, particularly in times of need. The obvious question is, why does Mr. MacDonald focus so obsessively on the Jews as the source of a global conspiracy, and not for example, the white Anglo Saxon Protestants who not only have a statistically disproportionate influence to their numbers, but have overwhelming control over the real decision-making institutions of power and policy? (So what if there are a lot of Jewish Nobel Prize winners – which one of them has ever decided a nation’s immigration policy – or, is there some Jewish president I am failing to remember?)

Also, arguing for a genetic/evolutionary explanation for Jewish solidarity is incredibly weak, since if anyone hasn’t noticed, we Jews come in every color these days (Admittedly, we have pretty much slept with every group we have had contact with for the last 2000 years – so now our genes are decidedly mixed). [If anyone wants to read a more common sense, non-racialized explanation of how group survival strategies evolve, the ‘Economic Sociology of Immigration’ is quite straightforward. It also clearly explains why if you live in a big city, you can always get good Chinese food at 2 am (because Chinatown are also a great example of group survival strategies).]

Lastly, the two central issues at the core of MacDonald’s Jewish conspiracy theory -- Israel and Immigration -- actually disprove the entire theory. Contrary his belief, Jews are NOT liberal on immigration in the US. Jews are very much split on the issue. Personally, I have become disheartened by how many times I have been emailed fervently anti-immigration literature and urgent on-line petitions from Jewish friends, acquaintances, and family members. Now I am actually one of those pro-immigration Jews, but that’s my point. We Jews can’t exactly be working one some big conspiracy together if we don’t even agree on the issue!

Likewise, contrary to popular belief, Jews are very much split on the issue of the US’s unconditional US support for current Israeli military policy. But that’s such a heated pointed debate for us Jews, that I will save that for another time and place.

Frankly Mr. MacDonald, as a Jew, I find your claims comical. Do you actually know any Jews? And again, I am sorry for you if some Jewish Hippies teased you when you were in high school. If so, that was not nice of them. But you should really try and make some new Jewish friends. It may help you get over it.

Meanwhile, if anyone has any helpful information about how I might join one of these Global Jewish Conspiracies, please let me know. Genetically speaking, I am entitled piece of the action.

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» Well said, GGG Posted by: zipper696
» RE: M.O.T. Posted by: rinthy
» Yeah, dammit Posted by: DaBear
» Not so fast ... Posted by: cold2touch
» RE: Not so fast ... Posted by: yellow
RE: The answer is simple - BLAME THE IRISH!
Posted by: DCBeltway on May 3, 2007 7:17 AM   
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This is just as racists as blaming the Jews!

-from an angry Irish girl

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RE: Bravo! More flippant remarks from the ignorant and narrow-minded.
Posted by: tlCampbell on May 3, 2007 8:55 AM   
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Let us not regress further and start pointing fingers at all the racial/religious sects in order to satisfy the victimism that runs rampant these days; we might just figure out that everyone is actually to blame. Oh the hysteria that may follow!

Although, if you truly need something to blame for your woes in life, I'd recommend starting with the linear thinking you seem to be infected with.

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» Amazing. How stupid ARE you people? Posted by: karma_ran_over_dogma
» The infection is spreading... Posted by: eddie torres
» RE: The infection is spreading... Posted by: karma_ran_over_dogma
» RE: Amazing. How stupid ARE you people? Posted by: LeftCoastProgressive
» "On the Internet, no one knows you're a dog" Posted by: karma_ran_over_dogma
a few points
Posted by: karyse on May 3, 2007 6:10 AM   
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First, tenure is a good thing. Even though it lets everyone be as idiotic as they want to be, it is better for it to be out in the open then hidden underground where only other rats see it.

Two, don't forget that "anti-semite" refers not only to Jews, but to all "descendents of Shem" which includes nearly everyone in the middle east, including Arabs -- pretty obviously in Iraq.

Three, being against Israel and its policies, does NOT translate to being anti Jew.

Finally, the anti-jew idiot logic goes like this:
Many Jews are Marxist; Marxism is bad because it argues for redistribution of wealth; therefore all Jews are rich and stingy.

Jews respect and promote education for everyone; (liberal arts) education is bad because men and women will come to understand the dark under-belly of capitalism and protest; therefore capitalism is good and Jews can takeover the whole system.

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» RE: a few points Posted by: yellow
» RE: a few points Posted by: karyse
» RE: a few points Posted by: yellow
from extreme leftist to extreme rightist--a clue right there
Posted by: zooeyhall on May 3, 2007 7:10 AM   
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I feel that someone who careens from being extreme leftist to extreme rightist, like this professor, should not be taken too seriously. The guy obviously has some deep seated emotional issues and probably psychological instability. Usually as time goes on their behavior becomes as erratic as their political views.

So what if the white supremicists clue into this guy, they are just as emotionally self-destructive as he is.

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He may be on to something ...
Posted by: kelt65 on May 3, 2007 7:12 AM   
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But not what he thinks. The only genetic predisposition I can see is that the right is predisposed to blaming the jews for everything. One doesn't have to dig deep to find it, either.

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Jews should be proud about trying to change a rascist, warmongering
Posted by: albrechtkrausse on May 3, 2007 7:19 AM   
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system of government as the US had in the 60's. Instead of denying they should point out their leadership, agitation, etc. The only issue this guy has (and those in the far-right) is that they don't like the fact that the USA has become more racially-tolerant and that there are more opportunities for non-white (ok, not perfect but better than before.) Since Jews were highly visible in the agitation and because of the history of blaming jews they focus on them. After all, in their theories, they can't blame blacks-- since they don't have the intellect, they can't blame the whites--since that is race-traitors and will show that most aren't racist, so they blame the jew---"the jew is using the black" etc.

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Iran's jewish population
Posted by: Arvy on May 3, 2007 7:55 AM   
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An interesting article on being jewish in Iran - here's the link:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5367892.stm

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Universities need anti-Semitic professors like Kevin MacDonald
Posted by: HughScott on May 3, 2007 9:21 AM   
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MacDonald showed his importance to higher education by asking rhetorically, "In the end, does it really matter if my motivation at this point is less than pristine? Isn't the only question whether I am right?"

Of course his motives are LESS than pristine. The guy is an admitted Jew-hater, for God's sake!

As for the correctness of MacDonald’s classroom venom, he's DEAD WRONG as well. But like a backboard for practicing tennis, CSULB students need MacDonald to test their belief systems. Otherwise, after graduation, they may fall prey to bigger and more masterful bigots like Jerry Falwell.

I have a caveat, however. Unlike burgers, only ONE MacDonald per campus!

Hugh E. Scott, editor of King-George.biz -- the only website with hardcopy proof of White House corruption.

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Deny, Lie, Protect & Serve
Posted by: Mr. Terrific on May 3, 2007 9:32 AM   
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As a black male in America, I find it utterly remarkable how the American public is so brainwashed as to go to any extent to claim so-called anti-semitism. While so many of you want to attribute grand achievements to those of "Jewish" faith, you blatantly ignore the massive evils commited by these same Jews. Some of the most hideous, repugnant and sick orchestrators of genocidal policies and actions around the world in the 20 and 21st centuries, are or were Jews!

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» tired of this black/Jewish thing Posted by: progressivetype
» hey, what's a kushite? Posted by: gretavo
» RE: Deny, Lie, Protect & Serve Posted by: LeftCoastProgressive
» To Mr. Terrific and his racist allies Posted by: progressivetype
» Mr. Terrific has a valid point Posted by: cold2touch
» Hey cold2touch, looked at ur liniks Posted by: progressivetype
Notice the HUGE posting by MOT.
Posted by: Mr. Terrific on May 3, 2007 9:47 AM   
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Have you seen any that do NOT support AlterNet's view that long?

Hahahahahah!

LIE, PROTECT AND SERVE YOUR MASTERS ALTERNET!

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The best book on this topic:
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on May 3, 2007 10:11 AM   
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Hitler's Scientists, by John Cornwall (also author of the equally provactive "Hitler's Pope")

There is a worrying trend in American academics these days that has many similarities to the rise of Lysenko in Soviet Russia as well as to the rise of Nazi ideology in German universities in the 30's - except the central theme in American universities is the rise of oligarchic corporate power.

The fact is that the corporate authority is controlled by wealthy billionaires with noted right-wing tendencies (Richard Mellon Scaife, for example, as well as the like of David Horowitz and his 'conservative campus' movements). It is very similar to the role that wealthy industrialists in the US played in the rise of Nazi Germany... and it's also worth noting that the US was one of the centers of the eugenics movement that inspired Hitler&Co.

The professors who are willing to toe the corporate line and to sign restrictive agreements with major corporate powers are the ones who are being moved into positions of authority where they control hiring decisions, etc. The fear of the corporate authority among junior professors is very evident - they know that if they speak out against it they will be shoved off the tenure track and out of the academic sector.

As a case example, look at British Petroleum's buyout of the University of California Berkeley, as described here: Big Oil Buys Berkeley
The BP-UC Berkeley Research Deal Pushes Academic Integrity Aside For Profit. by Jennifer Washburn

(Published on Saturday, March 24, 2007 by The Los Angeles Times)

Why doesn't BP set up its own research department - don't they have plenty of cash? They claim to be promoting 'biofuels research' but they will control all the patents, and what's particularly disgusting is the gleeful response of the UC professors and regents who support this deal. No, they aren't all racists - but they have learned to follow the orders of the corporate authority without asking questions, and that's what the German professors did under the Nazis as well.

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Canary in the mine
Posted by: ReallyBearish on May 3, 2007 10:38 AM   
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Forget the content of the Jew-baiting clowns. The rise of anti-semitism is a good indicator of an economy in trouble. When the crash comes, we'll hear plenty about the Wall Street Jews who caused it. (Although we could just as easily blame Indians, Chinese, WASPs, etc. who were also involved, but that would be outside "tradition".)

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» RE: Canary in the mine Posted by: progressivetype
Red Brown and Blue Party comment
Posted by: redbrownandblueparty on May 3, 2007 12:48 PM   
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Labeling and blaming have their uses, but they don't get far because they are stuck in small nets. The word-nets need to be big to catch big fish. Sex is a useful net to catch patriarchy. Money to catch class violence. The godfathers still run the show, ever since they invented the missionary position and the moneymaking scam. Love is the biggest net of all which King Midas will discover to his regret.

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mot makes the point, here is more
Posted by: iimcm on May 3, 2007 1:13 PM   
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mot makes excellent points. And to further, evolutionary psychology of homo sapiens to date can make no definitive claim to link dna with differences between the cultural practices or general intelligence (as defined by standardized testing) of human groups (race, ethnic, national, etc.). this assumption is never clarified or defended, while leaving it unstated misinforms people that it is already established. Adaptive strategies among human groups occur at multiple levels (linguistic, cultural values, taboos, prejudices, etc.) and these differences need not play out on the evolutionary-dna model. The entire field of evolutionary psychology is at stake when people lke Macdonald taint it by assuming that cultural, sociological, and psychological phenomena are necessarily linked with dna. What they fear is that there is no link, and that differences in technological achievements, the arts, and wealth are the result of different cultural values that have evolved, values adapted to meet the needs of the particular environments these groups occupied during specific historical periods.

Furthermore, if there is any dna link it is at the epigenetic level, where environment can subtly "shape" dna without changing it, much like when you bite the outer layer of a pencil - gnaw on it and it doesn't change the graphite core. This too is also an historic argument: the Nazi's bitterly rejected Lamarck, and now Lamarckian ideas have new currency in the brand new science of epigenetics. This is important because if environment can have an impact on this aspect of dna in generational time (as opposed to evolutionary time) and groups can (absence of oppression, internalization of negative stereotypes, and information and education asymmetry) "catch up" intellectually by adopting cultural values that create an environment which fosters this influence "positively" (instead of internalizing negative sterotypes which influence this negatively, or being oppressed which influences this negatively), than their whole rational for intelligence testing is flipped on its head. Instead of intelligence testing to show genetic inferiority, intelligence testing can then be justified to identify which cultures have been oppressed, (and an education-discrimination policy with real teeth could be inacted.)

Imagine a community where differences in intelligence between the races did not exist, it would look absolutely homogenous culturally in those key areas where dna is influenced on the epigenetic level: how we nurture, nourish, and educate our children.

Finally, human dna may have evolved precisely TO interact with the environment, perhaps more than any other species, thereby allowing the presevation of cultural values. Early humans, in a hostile environment, developed cultural practices and values for survival, practices and values that also shape their dna epigenetically, which in turn preserve these practices by creating offspring that are more suited to benefit from them and more suited to recreate them.

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Gibson's Father Convinces Jews To Give Up World Control
Posted by: sfgumshoe on May 3, 2007 2:12 PM   
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Gibson's Father Convinces Jews To Give Up World Control
> by Dan Barash
>
> March 25, 2004
>
> Bowing to intense pressure from Mel Gibson's father, Jews announced today
> that they would no longer control the world. In a press release, Jews
> stated, "Although we have thoroughly enjoyed the challenges of world
> domination for the last 300 years, we feel it's time for gentiles to take
> control of their own affairs. We plan to spend more time with our families
> and pursue other interests."
>
> Hutton Gibson stated he was pleased with the announcement, but expressed
> concern he was losing a scapegoat for all of his problems. He said he would
> be launching a search for a new minority group to demonize.
>
> Many Jews expressed relief that they could give up burdensome
> responsibilities. Retired accountant Jerry Friedman, who controls all media
> in Montana, said, "I would just as well let the citizens of Montana manage
> their own TV and newspapers. Don't get me wrong, Montana is a fine state.
> But it gets awfully cold, and there's nowhere to get a good bagel."
>
> Attorney Allen Franks said he's glad he no longer has to manage Bulgarian
> monetary policy. "It was getting to be quite a hassle," he said. "I already
> have a full time job and can't even balance my own checkbook, let alone
> control the finances of an entire nation."
>
> Homemaker Judith Levine said she would "...miss the hustle and bustle of
> setting the international price for magnesium every day. But my son is about
> to be Bar Mitzvah'd, and oy! Such a party we're gonna have you wouldn't
> believe!"
>
> Hollywood producer Sidney Greenbaum was pessimistic about the announcement.
> "Do you really think goyim know how to make movies?" he asked. "They'll all
> end up being high budget, Technicolor snuff flicks if you leave things up to
> Mel and his kind."
>
> Comedy experts expressed concern that the business would suffer if Jews
> suddenly withdrew. According to one insider, "Take away all the Jewish
> comics and writers, and all you have left is Carrot Top. That's not a world
> I want to live in."
>
> A potluck dinner in honor of Jews contributions to mankind will be held at

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Deny, Lie, Protect & Serve Your Masters!
Posted by: Mr. Terrific on May 3, 2007 2:30 PM   
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"Mr. Terrific?" Nah, you have to Jesse "Heimie Town" Jackson -- also a Jew-hater.
Posted by: HughScott on May 3, 2007 12:19 PM
Enough said.

"Gee Mr Terrific...You selected that moniker I suppose to pump yourself up. But you know making a statement like .."Some of the most hideous, repugnant and sick orchestrators of genocidal policies and actions around the world in the 20 and 21st centuries, are or were Jews!" surely needs facts and maybe links to back it up. Uhh...you gonna include The Holocaust too, aren't you? "

I have little time to waste in defense of my statements. Your post does however show your mentality. It is clear. As for myself, I have neither hatred nor prejudice against those of Jewish faith. If that were so, I would never have dated a Jewish woman. I do however have intense distaste and hatred if you wish to utilize the term, for the evil perpetrated by the elite class, the military industrial complex, the multinational corporations, the NGOs like AIPAC and others of their ilk. At the head of the majority of these organizations are those of Jewish faith! Those same wonderful people whom many here wish to laud for their achievements regards of HOW they achieved them!

Clearly this whole article is aimed at defending the behavior of those Jewish EVIL elite who have commited WAR CRIMES and GENOCIDE against hundreds of MILLIONS of people around the world from the founding of Communist Russia with Stalin and his Jewish wives to Vladamir Lenin. Both of those dictators murdered MILLIONS of people!

Predictably, you hear NOTHING of the fact that they were Jews. Moreover the 25 Neo-Con Jews within and without the Bush Administration who have orchestrated this world wide so-called "war on terror," are barely mentioned in connection with their "faith." Evil commited by Jews, REGARDLESS of the fact of the Holocaust, should neither be absolved nor ignored!

Note: Eariler this morning, I posted a long response with several links to valid materials, it was not allowed to be posted! Each and every time I tried, there was an error of some sort. Later tonight, I will attempt to repost those material. Fortunately, I saved every bit of it.

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Even a Bigot Can Tell the Truth!
Posted by: Mr. Terrific on May 3, 2007 2:45 PM   
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In my opinion, the best source of support of one's argument lies in the understanding of the science of logic. In taking a logic class a few years ago, I found myself enthralled in its grip. It was wonderful, as well as, informative. I learned through that class how to present my argument and support it. The writer of this article on the professor, does not attack the argument itself but instead attacks the person who is making the agrument!

This is a fallacy in logic! It is called "attack against the person!" If indeed all of you here who are defending the writer along with their belief that the professor's argument is unsound, PROVE it! If you can not do so, your counterarguments pose no validity. He can be a member of the KKK and still have a valid and sound argument! It is not the ideology of the person nor their skin color which you should note, but what they have to say, and if what they state is true or a lie!

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» keep up the spin, Mr. Hasbara Posted by: cold2touch
» For once, I may agree Posted by: cold2touch
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Where's Ronald ?
Posted by: KonnKat on May 3, 2007 3:07 PM   
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Have I been living in a parallel universe? Unless I have been, it's obvious that Jews are not a "race" and not a distinct genetic entity. There are Chinese Jews, Black Jews, Caucasian Jews, and Mexican Indian Jews. Nor are Jews all, or even very, small, dark, dark-haired, dark-eyed, Mediterraneans. There are blond Jews with parchment-white skin and blue eyes, tall and thin ones, small ones; every possible combination of traits to be found anywhere among mankind. So MacDonald's assertion that Jews are some sort of distinct genetic entity is bullshit. A human group whose psychologies were as pre-determined as MacDonald holds those of the Jews to be would be on the verge of being a separate species. Which MacDonald may be trying to insinuate, but which Jews are not. Jews and gentiles breed freely and produce healthy offspring; all humanity is one species.

The idea that Jews are a genetically distinct run of humanity whose psychologies are shaped by their genes and beyond their control, is bullshit from any standpoint within anthropology and genetics.

"What Makes Western Culture Unique?"

MacDonald's and MacDonald (?)

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RE: [continued] Last Post! Ummm..... Hmmmmm
Posted by: ekipnrut on May 3, 2007 5:08 PM   
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But, since both are possibilities, he who assumes nature is important is wiser. It's simple logic:
Race-realists argue that nature is important and human groups should take steps to preserve it, lest they lose it.
Race-mixers argue that nature is unimportant and human groups are equal in ability.
So, should we take the former's advice, or the latters?

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Well Svigor.....
Let's see...false premises..distinctions without differences...non sequitur(s)...vague ill defined terms (e.g. 'human groups'...cute!)...straw arguments...self serving lies
(but smartly presented) to facilitate pseudo 'logical' arguments.....
and ,oh yes...... former's advice[sic], or the latters[sic]....
you pitiful racist no doubt dumb fuck wanna be white supremacist POS...GTFOH!!!!
....superior intelligence indeed....Puhleeeeeeze

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RE: efute MacDonald if you can...if you can't, just stick with the logical fallacies
Posted by: thortytoes on May 3, 2007 6:21 PM   
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I was born Jewish and I am poor. There are lots of us.

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Yellow Lied About the Jewish Neocons All Being Purged
Posted by: rwa on May 3, 2007 9:38 PM   
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Why would he be doing that? It's kind of like a white American trying to say that slave holders were all Jews.

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Hey, the accept worse than Mac Donald just look at Micheal Levin at CCNY
Posted by: neosoul on May 3, 2007 3:47 PM   
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Mac Donald sure has a lot of time on his hands to publish anti- Jewish tracts, I didn't know Jews ran the world and destroyed countries. Now there is legitimate debate about Jewish - Americans entertainment bosses in show buisness whom control the record and entertainment industry and their refusal to hear the concerns of African- Americans . And also the Jewish- American lobby on their undue influence on foreign policy in the Middle East that is not anti- semetic behavior. But this university probaly supported what he said and did not want David Hororwitz and other conservatives on their campuses scremaing "Politcal Correctness".

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Concerning Jewish wealth and power.
Posted by: tap17x on May 3, 2007 3:57 PM   
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I apologize for forgetting that Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, Donald Trump, Rupert Murdoch, and the Walton family are all Jews, as are Bush, Cheney, Rice, Limbaugh, O'Rielly, Hannity, and Ailes.

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Mr. Terrific needs to look at recent African History.
Posted by: yellow on May 3, 2007 4:06 PM   
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You claim that the Jews perpetrated genocide in the 20th and 21st centuries. In 1948, there were 1.25 million Palestinian Arabs. Today there are over 9 million half of which live in Israel/Palestine. A strange genocide indeed. No lets look at some REAL genocides in the 20th and 21st century. Rwanda 1994, 800,000. Idi Amin in Uganda, 300,000 to 500,000. Congo Brazaville 1975, 150,000 Hutu killed. Biafran Civil War 1967-1970 over 1 million mostly dead of starvation from the Nigerian blockade. Then there is of course, Darfur nearing half a million dead and nearly three million refugees. Here's a good start. There are many others. It seems no one knows genocide like Africa. Before you throw stones at others make sure you're not standing in a glass house yourself.

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» Thankyou Yellow Posted by: moflard
» and why oh why Posted by: gretavo
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» When he's right, he's right. Posted by: moflard
» so the question then is... Posted by: gretavo
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Links to Kevin MacDonald's writings
Posted by: mantra77 on May 3, 2007 5:53 PM   
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Here's some links to other works by Kevin MacDonald:

• The Culture of Critique
• Background traits for Jewish activism
• Zionism and the Internal Dynamics of Judaism
• Neoconservativism as a Jewish Movement
• Thinking about Neoconservatism
• Jewish Involvement in Shaping American Immigration Policy, 1881-1965: A Historical Review
• What Makes Western Culture Unique?
• Stalin's Willing Executioners?
• Immigration and the Unmentionable Question of Ethnic Interests
• Was the 1924 Immigration Cut-off 'Racist'?
• Can the Jewish Model Help the West Survive?

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Bob's Riddle: All anti-white racists agree that it's ok for whites to become minorities in their own countries. All anti-white racists also agree that a Japanese person who wants to become a minority in his own country is either a traitor or clinically insane. Therefore, what is an anti-white racist? Answer

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Mr. Terrific is right
Posted by: mantra77 on May 3, 2007 6:59 PM   
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Mr Terrific wrote, "Some of the most hideous, repugnant and sick orchestrators of genocidal policies and actions around the world in the 20 and 21st centuries, are or were Jews!"

Since you're black, you might want to know this:

"Rabbi Marc Lee Raphael is the Nathan and Sophia Gumenick Professor of Judaic Studies, Professor of Religion, and Chair, Department of Religion, The College of William and Mary, and a Visiting Fellow of Wolfson College, Oxford University. He has been the editor of the quarterly journal, American Jewish History, for 19 years, and a visiting professor at Brown University, the University of Pittsburgh, HUC-JIR, UCLA, and Case Western Reserve University. He came to The College of William and Mary in 1989 after 20 years at Ohio State University. He is the author of many books on Jews and Judaism in America, and his most recent publication (with his wife Linda Schermer Raphael) is When Night Fell: An Anthology of Holocaust Short Stories (Rutgers University Press, 1999). He is now writing Judaism in America for the Contemporary American Series of Columbia University Press. Visit him at the website of his synagoge, Bet Aviv, in Columbia, Maryland.

The following passages are from Dr. Raphael’s book Jews and Judaism in the United States a Documentary History (New York: Behrman House, Inc., Pub, 1983), pp. 14, 23-25.

“Jews also took an active part in the Dutch colonial slave trade; indeed, the bylaws of the Recife and Mauricia congregations (1648) included an imposta (Jewish tax) of five soldos for each Negro slave a Brazilian Jew purchased from the West Indies Company. Slave auctions were postponed if they fell on a Jewish holiday. In Curacao in the seventeenth century, as well as in the British colonies of Barbados and Jamaica in the eighteenth century, Jewish merchants played a major role in the slave trade. In fact, in all the American colonies, whether French (Martinique), British, or Dutch, Jewish merchants frequently dominated.

“This was no less true on the North American mainland, where during the eighteenth century Jews participated in the ‘triangular trade’ that brought slaves from Africa to the West Indies and there exchanged them for molasses, which in turn was taken to New England and converted into rum for sale in Africa. Isaac Da Costa of Charleston in the 1750’s, David Franks of Philadelphia in the 1760’s, and Aaron Lopez of Newport in the late 1760’s and early 1770’s dominated Jewish slave trading on the American continent.”

Now, what does the author mean by "dominated"? According to dictionary.com, "dominated" means:

1. to rule over; govern; control.
2. to tower above; overlook; overshadow: A tall pine dominated the landscape.
3. to predominate, permeate, or characterize.

So if whites have to pay reparations it's important that those who dominated the slave trade pay the dominant share.

For more information on the (dominant) Jewish role in the slave trade visit http://www.blacksandjews.com, the website of renown black scholar Professor Tony Martin of Wellesley College. At that website you'll find out that Kevin MacDonald is not alone in being hounded by pro-semitic bigots for daring to speak the truth.

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For What it is worth
Posted by: Gravitas on May 3, 2007 7:00 PM   
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For what it is worth, as a "Christian" eclectic, I apologize profoundly that there are people like this in the world. It would be so nice to dismiss him as a total nut job. Unfortunately, we are in times of rapid change and social breakdown. Anytime this occurs, there is always the risk that society will rally around and persecute some group of people to provide itself with temporary unity. Sociologist explain the witchhunts in these terms, the name for it is called a deviance scare. We believe norms are what hold society together. When they break down, often times an innocent group of people is demonized and scapegoated. A popular prejudice in times of rapid change is as dangerous as match in dry tinder. So we have to be vigilant against such nuts as above. The dynamics of deviance scares are real, and their power has been used in unspeakable destruction. It is too bad we can't harness it; however, for the real enemy we need to fight - environmental catastrophy. We don't need to turn on each other. We could rally around saving the planet and perhaps save ourselves in the process.

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Jewish Hate Against Gentiles
Posted by: Tim68 on May 3, 2007 9:50 PM   
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The when the SPLC is done smearing Professor MacDonald, perhaps they'll offer an apology to us gentiles for one of their own supremacists?

"Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves." – Former Israeli Prime Minister Menechem Begin

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Are these people "White Supremacists" too?
Posted by: Tim68 on May 3, 2007 10:20 PM   
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”Why would Iraq attack America or use nuclear weapons against us? I'll tell you what I think the real threat (is) and actually has been since 1990 – it's the threat against Israel,”…”And this is the threat that dare not speak its name, because the Europeans don't care deeply about that threat, I will tell you frankly. And the American government doesn't want to lean too hard on it rhetorically, because it is not a popular sell,” - Phillip Zelikow – President’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board (PFIAB), 2001 – 2003

“A stronger Israel is very much imbedded in the rationale for war with Iraq. The destruction of Saddam’s Iraq will not only remove an enemy of long standing, but will also change the basic power equation in the region.” - Joe Klein Time Magazine, Feb 5, 2003

"American Jews are responsible for pushing the country to war with Iraq"…"If it were not for the strong support of the Jewish community for this war with Iraq, we would not be doing this,"
Congressman James P. Moran Jr., Virginia

“Those who favor this attack {against Iraq} now will tell you candidly, and privately, that it is probably true that Saddam Hussein is no threat to the United-States. But they are afraid at some point he might decide if he had a nuclear weapon to use it against Israel.” - General Wesley Clark, August 2002

“The war in Iraq was conceived by 25 neoconservative intellectuals, most of them Jewish, who are pushing President Bush to change the course of history” – Ari Shavit, April 5, 2003 Haaretz News Service-Israel

“With Iraq no threat, why invade a sovereign country? The answer: President Bush’s policy to secure Israel.” “My own answer is that the lie (that a massively-armed Iraq posed a grave and imminent threat to the U.S) was fabricated by the neo-conservatives in the administration whose first loyalty is to Israel and its interests and who wanted the United-States to smash Iraq because it was the biggest potential threat to Israel in the region. They are known to have been pushing for the war with Iraq since at least 1996, but they could not make an effective case for it until after Sept 11, 2001..” – Senator Ernest F. Hollings, U.S. Senator South Carolina–May 2004

“For whose benefit these endless wars in a region that holds nothing vital to America save oil, which the Arabs must sell us to survive? Who would benefit from a war of civilizations between the West and Islam? Answer: one nation, one leader, one party. Israel, Sharon, Likud.” Patrick Buchanan, March 2004

“What has been happening over the years is a predictable routine of foreign visitation from the head of the Israeli government. The Israeli puppeteer travels to Washington. The Israeli puppeteer meets with the puppet in the White House, and then moves down Pennsylvania Avenue, and meets with the puppets in Congress. And then takes back billions of taxpayer dollars. It is time for the Washington puppet show to be replaced by the Washington peace show.” – Ralph Nader, consumer advocate, author and independent Presidential candidate, July 2004

“For Bureaucratic reasons we settled on one issue, weapons of mass destruction, because it was one reason everyone could agree on…“I’m not concerned about weapons of mass destruction.” - Dept Sec of Defense Paul Wolfowitz

“My son joined the Army to protect America, not Israel” – Cindy Sheehan, mother of Spc. Casey Sheehan, 24, killed in Baghdad on April 4, 2004

“The Jews rule the world by proxy. They get others to fight and die for them.” - Mahathir Mohammed, Prime Minister of Malaysia, October 2003

“Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." - Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, October 8th, 2001

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» I disagree. Posted by: mjabele
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Ms N
Posted by: maandI on May 4, 2007 8:28 AM   
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What ails All Antisemites is the Green Monster JEALOUSY! For
5767 years they have tried to eradicate the world of us,but to no avail,we always survive and even Flurish too. The only exception to this is my husband's entire family and millions of others in Europe some 60 years ago. Dr Mc Donald lacks sufficient proof of the Holocaust.There is TOO Much proof!

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yellow is clearly a zionist troll
Posted by: cold2touch on May 4, 2007 2:17 PM   
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Any fact or evidence that flies in face of his dogmatically revisionist zionist stance is ignored, dismissed and poster insulted with epithets like "Yo Stupid" (directed at Mr. Terrific, who is black), and that hole-in-one debate stifler: "anti-semite".

If someone quotes one of his zionist team, he will say it is fabricated.
Of course, the following quotes are all fabricated according to him, but I invite those who are sufficiently free of ideological brainwashing to consider the following quotes, all by prominent Zionists.

Of course, I expect no reasoned reply from yellow, only bespittled invective.

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» It seems you're correct..... Posted by: mjabele
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In Sum
Posted by: EncinoM on May 4, 2007 3:25 PM   
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This thread just proves that stupidity and reacism isn't reserved for reactionary militia groups, but progressives are just as infected.

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» Sad, but clearly true...nm Posted by: mjabele
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To ALL who have posted on this thread.......
Posted by: ekipnrut on May 5, 2007 5:08 AM   
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At the beginning of the day,MacDonald espouses the 'theories' of
anglo saxon white supremacy, his supporters referenced in the article are in many instances freely admitted racists. The prolific extrusion of canine feces on this thread is itself and makes reference to more of the neonazi pseudo science that white supremacists promulgate. It has been repeatedly debunked, deconstructed and exposed as fetid garbage by even those who are potentially adversarial to Black people.
Independent of the 'jew issue'...those who suck out of the ass of white racist propaganda..are at the same identical level of vermin as white racist neonazis. That applies,without exception ,to each and every poster on this thread...allegedly black...female...WASP. ..whomsoever. Lick out of the ass of nazis (or take condescending pats on the head from them),
then click your heels and snap out that extended arm....On the other hand, We Black people simultaneously fight ziojews, sambos and neonazis..(at least) three fronts 24/7..
365Y. We need not pander to one in order to annihilate the other(s).
Bottom line: One cannot advance an agenda of essential justice...in Palestine..in Afghanistan...in Brazil...in New Orleans in New York City...by appeals to racist madness....

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A Perfect Feedback Loop
Posted by: ceti on May 5, 2007 9:39 AM   
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Perhaps the biggest instigator of anti-semitism today is the inability in to speak openly about or publicly criticize Israel, especially when organizations like AIPAC maintain an unassailable position. The hypocrisy of suffering that entails, where Palestinians are treated horrendously and denied their right to exist as a people, further adds fuel to the fire of a sentiment forced underground to percolate and spread its tentacles into the minds of even well-intentioned peoples. Ironically, hardcore Zionists benefit most from this anti-semitism, as they can point to the ill intentions of their detractors. Thus a perfect feedback loop emerges as the middle east and the world in general stumbles towards its doom.

Sadly, I can see that if the Iraq war proves catastrophic in the homeland, elite sections may in fact find it necessary to instigate real bonafide antisemitism to distract from their Imperial failures and to restore America's role in the world. Thus Babylon may find it necessary to sacrifice Israel for this. It's farfetched but could happen, given how under the surface this feeling of betrayal seems to be.

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Nothing New About Psychos Heading Prominent Organizations
Posted by: Nuuon on May 5, 2007 11:32 AM   
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An anti-semite and racist managed to get into leadership positions in prominent professional organizations? Nothing new or "strange" about that. Check out the infamous history of Dr. Ewen Cameron. Dr. Cameron was a diabolical maniac who was paid by the CIA to conduct mind control experiments (as part of the CIA's MKULTRA project) on unsuspecting patients at McGill University. At the very same time, Cameron was President of the American and Canadian psychiatric associations and the second President of the World Psychiatric Association.

The only "strange" thing about this entire episode is the fact that major Jewish 'civil rights' organizations like the ADL have apparently given McDonald a pass-- Yet they chase down people like Louis Farrakhan and Rev. Al Sharpton. What the heck is THAT about? Perhaps the Zionists consider McDonald a handy partner.

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An 'Aufklaerung' Blast from the past....
Posted by: ekipnrut on May 5, 2007 2:06 PM   
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Hebrewnomics anyone???
ALTHN
Of course one can only wonder as to the extent of 'hebrewnomic'
involvement in the 'third wave' feminist embrace of 'sex industry'
means and methods....:O)

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National Brotherhood Week
Posted by: moflard on May 5, 2007 4:44 PM   
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Reading this thread is a bit like the Tom Lehrer Song:-

"Oh the Protestants hate the Catholics
And the Catholics hate the Protestants
And the Hindus hate the Muslims
And everybody hates the Jews"


Yes there are some nasty Jews out there. Well there's alot of nasty non-Jews out there aswell.

Yes the figures for the Holocaust should be open to debate just as any other historical event is. But give the guys a break here - I think we'd all be a bit touchy if someone started questioning the figures for the Potato Famine, The Slave Trade, or the Great Dying. I think in the future we will be allowed to question those figures, but the wounds are still very raw for many Jews - I mean some lunatic tried to kill ALL of them. I think I'd be a tad upset still if someone had tried that on my beloved Grandparents.

And yes Jews are probably over represented in various industries. Well whose real fault is that? Jews have valued education for a VERY long time, and unfortunately Anglo-Saxon culture has a tendency not to, so it's only natural that Jews have excelled in certain places. And it was the Popes who set the foundation stone for (some) Jewish wealth, with the outlawing of usury for Christians, and the destruction of the Knights Templar (Europes first bankers). The Jews just filled a niche in the environment. They didn't actually have much choice.

And as for this entire liberal immigration stuff - in the 1890's when pogroms in Eastern Europe were at an all time high, British Jews campaigned AGAINST immigration. They were still terrified, even then, of what such an influx would mean for them. Hardly what one would expect of a people hell bent on subverting the host society.

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VisionQuest you need stop writing in the silly cliches of a third rate grad student...
Posted by: yellow on May 5, 2007 9:06 PM   
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I hate both Don Imus (who I never heard of before the recent flap) and Louis Farrakhan who IS a genuine anti-semite. I never gave any impression that I like MacDonald and want to join him. He is fascist scum like Farrakhan and Tony Martin all of whom make Jew baiting a career. I would never want to be part of any political group but genuinely progressive ones that eschew hate and bigotry.

The trouble is that much of the US African-American community isn't ready to do the same. Unfortunately, most of them are not progressive; they are conservative populists. They love conspiricy mongering and Jew baiting. They embrace what GB Shaw once called, "the socialism of fools." This is to bad and will result in strategies like the Farrakhan one that will hold them back and not address their issues like health care, education, safe communities, good paying jobs, social equality, and non-discrimination. Matin Luther King called for a multi-cultural strategy that included all members of society to create a just order based on social equality. To many people Black and White turned their backs on his ideals. His assassination left America, and particularly Black America in political disarray. This is why many rightly believe the assassination was an act of state. I would not be suprised if Farrakhan got CIA money to run his organization. King was more feared because he had a decent and plausible message and supported democracy. He could have truely gained mass support for change in the US that no one else could garner. He could even have become president. This is why the authories feared him. It was because he realized that the core issues in America didn't boil down to race but to class.

The Jews span all social classes. Capitalism is not their system. It belongs to the upper 1% of the society most of whom are not Jews. Corporate America is not Jewish. It is mostly white and male. Their agenda will run over everyone. This is exactly what the fascists don't want you to see.

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Recent black/jew current events and the 'memory hole'....
Posted by: ekipnrut on May 6, 2007 9:16 AM   
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a timely review and revisit... :O)
Following is an excerpt from: Open Letter To Cornel West & the other Uncle Toms... from the African United Front (1993)
It should also be noted that a number of prominent Jews have made anti-Black statements that have rarely been condemned by their fellow Jews.
Before his death, Israeli Defense Minister Moshe Dayan asserted that the quality of American military forces had deteriorated because they were composed of Blacks "who have low intelligence and low education." He urged America to ensure that "fresh blood and better brains go to their forces."
Prominent Jewish talk show host Howard Stern was quoted in the November 1st issue of Time magazine as stating that, "they didn't beat this idiot (Rodney King) enough." Stern has played Ku Klux Klan musical recordings and in broadcast used the term "nigger" 55 times in ten minutes.
During the week of March 7, 1994, Jewish comedian Jackie Mason was quoted by news broadcasts as having said: "The susceptibility to violence happens to be more among Blacks than whites - a hundred times more.'
Finally, when Blacks are offended by individual Jews, generally we respond with civility and restraint. Yet, in all of your "dialogues" no one has brought this fact to public light. The Black people of Los Angeles are a case in point.
* ·In 1991, Judge Joyce A. Karlin sentenced Korean merchant Soon Ja Du to five years of probation, 400 hours of community service and a fine of five hundred dollars for killing Black teenager Latasha Harlins.***
* ·In 1991, Judge Stanley M. Weisberg transferred the "Rodney King case" to Simi Valley and thereby virtually assured an unfair trial for the Black victim.
* ·In August of 1992, Superior Court Judge Roosevelt I. Dorn, a Black jurist who had been hand-picked to hear the case of three men charged with beating Reginald Denny during the early hours of the L.A. Civil unrest, was removed from the case by District Attorney Ira Reiner. Karlin, Weisberg and Reiner are all Jews. Most Blacks in Los Angeles know this. Yet, while many Black people were very angry at each of them for the decision he/she made, these jurists were attacked as individuals, not as Jews! In spite of the fact that the decisions of each of these people inflamed racial passions to the boiling point, there were no calls for Jewish leaders to repudiate them for their "racism" or "unfairness," there were no newspaper advertisements taken out to condemn them, nor were their names dragged before congress to be censured.

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*** All you 'progressive' jew women of Alternet...keep up
karlin's good work!!...hannah... :O)

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Sing a simple song.......
Posted by: ekipnrut on May 6, 2007 9:37 AM   
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Malcolm X:
Let me say just a word about the Jew and the black man. The Jew is always anxious to advise the black man. But he never advises him how to solve the problem the way the Jews solved their problem. The Jew never went sitting in and crawling in and sliding in and freedom riding, like he teaches and helps Negroes to do. The Jews stood up, and stood together, and they used their ultimate power, the economic weapon. That's exactly what the Honorable Elijah Muhammad is trying to teach black men to do.The Jews pooled their money and bought hotels that barred them. They bought Atlantic City and Miami Beach and anything else they wanted. Who owns Hollywood? Who runs the garment industry, the largest industry in New York City? But the Jew that's advising the Negro joins the NAACP, CORE, the Urban League, and others. With money donations, the Jew gains control, then he sends the black man doing all this wading in, boring in, even burying in-everything but buying in. Never shows him how to set up factories and hotels. Never advises him how to own what he wants. No, when there's something worth owning, the Jew's got it.

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Yellow's A Coward - Excuses White Racism by Attacking Blacks
Posted by: Nuuon on May 6, 2007 10:29 AM   
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Why do WHITE COWARDS always try to excuse white racist/antisemitism by bringing up the relationship between blacks and Jews? And why are black folks always made the culprits in this relationship? SIMPLE: Because blacks are ALWAYS a "safe target"-- that is, IF YOU ARE A COWARD who is afraid to confront the REAL centers of power in America. So why the attack on obscure people like Prof. Tony Martin while leaving 'mainstream' antisemites like Kevin McDonald alone? It's all about "keeping blacks in their place" why kissing the ass of the white power structure. It's about making a deal with the devil to survive.

That having been said: If you want a history of white mass murder in Africa that dwarfs ANYTHING ever perpertrated by black Africans, one need only look at the history of the white "King Leopold" from Europe. He was the man who set the precedent (tactics, strategy and all) that would later be used against the Jews of Nazi Germany. The fact that 'yellow' conveniently omits the history of 'King Leopold' proves that 'yellow' is either politically retarded or a pure racist. King Leopold's savagery was thoroughly documented by none other than Mark Twain himself. One tally has 'King Leopold' killing more than TWICE the number of people said to have died during the Holocaust.

And if you want the sordid history of Jewish massive hands-on participation in (in some cases, running entire sectors of) the slave trade, one need only look at the detailed information that is available to anyone who isn't afraid to confront the facts. The history of Jewish participation in the slave trade has been documented by EVERY kind of scholar, African, Black American, Jewish, etc., so you can't just point a finger at Louis Farakhan or Prof. Tony Martin for pointing out the Jewish role in the slave trade. It's a FACT.

'Yellow' is the color code for 'Coward'.

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How to control and dominate the world while scratching your A..!
Posted by: Orientalist on May 7, 2007 6:16 PM   
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Sitting on strategic key-positions globally but particularly in the US, with money or threat intimidate people to control the whole political process that's all there is to it!

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given the fact that many more muslims have been killed
Posted by: gretavo on May 8, 2007 1:41 PM   
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in the last six years by wars based on lies, why is more attention not paid to sites like www.masada2000.org or www.saneworks.us ?

Aren't those hate sites? I mean, they sure seem like it to me!

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Ahoy there... Capn', that slaver ..she seems to be flying the Star of David!!!
Posted by: ekipnrut on May 9, 2007 8:17 AM   
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Welcome to the 'Memory hole Zone' tonight's episode: The Jewish Triangle..scores of ships, millions of kidnapped slaves , spanning hundreds of years...all vanished from
jewish history without a trace!!!!!!!!! =======================
Excerpt from www.blacksandjews.com : ............ Overwhelming Evidence
The history that the old "Black-Jewish Coalition" clumsily avoids is the entire three century history of Jewish presence in South America and the Caribbean. But other highly acclaimed Jewish scholars have not been so blind:
Lee M. Friedman, a one-time president of the American Jewish Historical Society, wrote that in Brazil, where most of the Africans actually went, "the bulk of the slave trade was in the hands of Jewish settlers."
Marcus Arkin wrote that the Jews of Surinam used "many thousands" of Black slaves.
Herbert I. Bloom wrote that "the slave trade was one of the most important Jewish activities here (in Surinam) as elsewhere in the colonies." He even published a 1707 list of Jewish buyers by name with the number of Black humans they purchased.
Cecil Roth, writer of 30 books and hundreds of articles on Jewish history, wrote that the slave revolts in parts of South America "were largely directed against [Jews] as being the greatest slave-holders of the region."
"I gather," wrote Jewish scholar Wilfred Samuels, "that the Jews [of Barbados] made a good deal of their money by purchasing and hiring out negroes..."
According to the Jewish historians, all Barbadian Jews owned slaves - even the rabbi had "the enjoyment of his own two negro attendants."
In Curaçao which was a major slave trading depot, Isaac and Susan Emmanuel report that "the shipping business was mainly a Jewish enterprise."
Says yet another Jewish writer of the Jews of Curaçao, "Almost every Jew bought from one to nine slaves for his personal use or for eventual resale."
Seymour B. Liebman in his New World Jewry, made it clear that "[t]he ships were not only owned by Jews, but were manned by Jewish crews and sailed under the command of Jewish captains."
Moshe Kahan stated bluntly that in 1653-1658, " Jewish-Marrano merchants were in control of the Spanish and Portuguese trade, were almost in control of the Levantine trade...were interested in the Dutch East and West Indian companies, were heavily involved in shipping; and, most important, had at their disposal large amounts of capital."
In Brazil, where most of our kidnapped ancestors were sent, Jewish scholar Arnold Wiznitzer is most explicit about Jewish involvement:
Besides their important position in the sugar industry and in tax farming, they dominated the slave trade. From 1636 to 1645 a total of 23,163 Negro slaves arrived from Africa and were sold for 6,714,423 florins. The West India Company, which monopolized imports of slaves from Africa, sold slaves at public auctions against cash payment. It happened that cash was mostly in the hands of Jews. The buyers who appeared at the auctions were almost always Jews, and because of this lack of competitors they could buy slaves at low prices. On the other hand, there also was no competition in the selling of the slaves to the plantation owners and other buyers, and most of them purchased on credit payable at the next harvest in sugar. Profits up to 300 percent of the purchase value were often realized with high interest rates....If it happened that the date of such an auction fell on a Jewish holiday the auction had to be postponed. This occurred on Friday, October 21, 1644."
Given the concise statements in the Jewish historical record, of which the "Black/Jewish Coalition" is totally ignorant, how can it be taken seriously in the present debate? (For even more evidence see the Facts and Quotes Section)

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Something's amiss
Posted by: HotKarl on May 9, 2007 1:31 PM   
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Here's Kevin MacDonald in a speech at Amherst College in 2000:

Let me just say that I can't see how the religion and the people could have survived 3,000 years, despite the best efforts of others, from trying to kill Judaism with kindness and conversion to killing Jews on a massive scale (the Holocaust and earlier pogroms) if I didn't raise some important issues of human adaptation.

Sounds like he believes in the holocaust to me. Most of the article is uncited accusations and MacDonald is pretty much never quoted, only other people's comments about him. Why is that?

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As We Come to the Bitter End of this Delightful Thread...
Posted by: yellow on May 9, 2007 3:13 PM   
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I would like to take the opportunity to make some further comments and observations. The generally low level of intelligence displayed on this particular thread and the very alarming and frightening adherence to and defense of bigotry is, in my view, an unfortunate sign of our times. Traditional ultraconservatives have always been bigoted. They have always generalized about people they don't understand. They have always hated diversity and seen it as a threat. They have always seen hate as natural, not indoctrinated, and have always despised and fought attempts to counter it.

The hatred found on this thread is the direct result of several years of ultraconservative rule. Such rule is replete with religious fanaticism and intolerance, attacks on the US Constitution, a document which undeniably affirms the basic equality and inalienable rights of all people, and war mongering and the racist vilification of whole peoples. This is the legacy of years of ultraconservative misrule and degradation of US civil society through economic mismanagement and illegal and devastating war making.

Let us hope that a new age will dawn that will take back US society for democracy and for true civilization. The will, the ideas, the energy and the organizational capacity exists to turn things around for America and the world. We need a new political movement that mobilizes the jobless, working poor, the disenfranchised, and the fast fading middle classes. Our choice is between genuine democracy and equality or barbarism. Let's do the right thing!!

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RE: California Professor Is Font of Anti-Semitism
Posted by: yellow on May 10, 2007 2:40 PM   
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So you want to have the last word eh, pervo?

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RE: Antisemitism Increasing in the USA Rather Quickly
Posted by: yellow on May 10, 2007 7:31 PM   
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Perhaps you are unaware of the fact that Israel receives annual aid amounting to less than 3% of its total GDP. Israel contributes to high tech industries globally in the fields of medical equipement, computer software, and biotech. The TASE is capitalized at close to $200 billion. The Israeli companies on the NASDEQ are capitalized at $150 billion but there only 90 of them vs. 669 on the TASE. Israel is only about 9 million people including the 3 million in the occupied territories. Does this sound like a weak bunch to you?

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» RE: Sources? Posted by: yellow
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It's More Than Economics
Posted by: Tim68 on May 11, 2007 2:33 PM   
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Trust me: at base most antisemitism is ECONOMIC

I don't agree. I have no problem whatsoever wealth Jews or anyone else gaining wealth. My problem is that they use that wealth to corrupt gentile politicans and that is the basis for the other major problems we're discussed here i.e. opening our border to the third world, our country being used to fight wars for Israel, their control of the production of culture. I mean, take a look around. The whole country racially, socially and morally is a mess. If these people made barrels of money and could mind their own business, no reasonable person would care

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RE: allying against runaway Jewish capitalism in...Israel?
Posted by: yellow on May 11, 2007 12:57 AM   
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LIke here its not a question of race but class. Gee you're dumb.

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RE: The Jews and "economic crimes against humanity"
Posted by: yellow on May 12, 2007 1:04 AM   
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Charopos you will never outcompete the Jews.

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Whites Most Underrepresented at Harvard; Jews Most Overrepresented
Posted by: Tim68 on May 11, 2007 5:03 PM   
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Admissions policies at Harvard fit the Jewish agenda perfectly: coincidence or plan?

IF YOU VISIT the Admissions page at Harvard University's Web site, you'll see the university's claim that some 65% of their undergraduate population of 6,658 is "Caucasian." Then, zipping on over to the Jewish campus organization Hillel's site, you'll find that 2,000 of those "Caucasians" are Jews. A little quick work with the calculator shows that, therefore, 46 per cent. of the "Caucasian" students are therefore Jews, making this tiny minority of the American population by far the most overrepresented group at Harvard -- and Whites by far the most underrepresented.

Sources:

1. Census Population
2. Jewish population stats from here
3. Hillel for Jewish numbers at Harvard
4. Harvard Admissions

Caveats: some of the categories don't track exactly. For example, it's not clear whether Harvard puts Hawaiians and Pacific Islanders in the Native American category or the Asian American category, or whether they put Sammy Sosa-like black Hispanics into the "Hispanic American" or "African American" groups. It's also unclear to me how one can reconcile Harvard's figures of 7.1% Foreign, 8.4% International students with such a large number of prefixed-Americans. It may be that their diversity percentages are only applicable to Americans...or they may be counting foreign Chinese nationals as "Asian American" for the purposes of diversity stats. Don't laugh - it is already accepted practice to count illegal Mexican nationals as Hispanic Americans, after all.

But overall, I don't think these affect the force of the conclusion: white gentiles are the most underrepresented group relative to their population at Harvard, and ...Jews are the most overrepresented group, followed by Asian Americans.

We agree. The cold numbers don't lie. And 'cold' is a good word for it -- White people are being frozen out and given the cold shoulder at Harvard, which was founded by and for our people and, until very recent decades, maintained that it was primarily for the education of our people -- what the founding fathers called "our sacred posterity."

Take out your calculator again and divide the Jewish representation -- almost 17 times their percentage of the US population -- by the White representation (0.53 or about half of our percentage of the population):

A Jew is approximately 31 times as likely to be admitted to Harvard as a White person.

A Jew is almost 4 times as likely to be admitted to Harvard as an Asian.

A Jew is almost 25 times as likely to be admitted to Harvard as a Black.

A Jew is more than 29 times as likely to be admitted to Harvard as a Mestizo.

A Jew is almost 19 times as likely to be admitted to Harvard as an Amerind.

It would be interesting to see the Jewish "Caucasian" statistics broken out of other university admissions and employment figures. I suspect that for highly-desirable positions we would find a similar pattern.

So, this is the "equality" and "fairness" that you traded your freedom for -- that you traded your nation for, White American? You've been snookered and fooled and played for a patsy. Time to wake up.

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Many of You Unschooled Anti-Semites have Complained Bitterly
Posted by: yellow on May 12, 2007 1:02 AM   
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about the Jews buying US politicians. In a recent Newsletter of news and political research put out by Jim Hightower called the Hightower Lowdown (April 2007) Large Corporations contributed $880 million to political campaigns in 2006. So much for campaign finance reform!! In 2005, an issue of The Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, an anti-Israel monthly if ever there was one, totalled all the AIPAC contributions to political campaigns for 2004 as $1.5 million most of them going to congressional races.

So who is really corrupting the political system, buying politicians, controlling capital hill, and using money to push their agenda? The big corporations that really control things but that you fascists never criticize.

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California Professor Is Font of Anti-Semitism
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Question For Yellow. Can Beer Be Anti-Semitic?
Posted by: Tim68 on May 12, 2007 12:25 PM   
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Can Beer Be Anti-Semitic?
NATIONAL (JANUARY 18, 2007)
Beer commercial ‘leaves sour taste’

PETER KOHN

A BEER commercial that claims the product is brewed according to “the German Purity Law” is “insensitive”, according to the head of the Jewish community’s antisemitism watchdog.

B’nai B’rith Anti-Defamation Commission (ADC) chairman Michael Lipshutz told the AJN that the Beck’s beer commercial should specify a “German beer purity law” to distinguish it from Nazi Germany’s racial “purity” laws.

The audio track for the commercial, which has aired on Foxtel’s Comedy Channel, mentions “the German Purity Law” and also emblazons the words across the screen.
James Tait, corporate affairs manager for Beck’s importer Lion Nathan Australia, said the advertisement “has been running in Australia and other parts of the world for several years”.

“The German Purity Law is a brewing law that ensures only natural ingredients are used. It has been around since 1516 and the ad is clear that it [the purity law] relates to the product.”

Foxtel corporate affairs manager Rebecca Melkman said the pay-TV provider, after reviewing the commercial, “believes it complies with the code. In our view, the commercial clearly refers to the German Purity Law as a method of brewing beer – it is a well-known beer brewing method that is described in detail in the commercial.”

She said she was unaware of any previous complaints regarding the commercial.

Lipshutz said the airing of the commercial in the general media could cause offence to some people, particularly those who were affected by the Holocaust. “I think it is insensitive. It leaves a sour taste.”

In a letter to the AJN this week, London resident Todd Tobias, who saw the ad on the Comedy Channel during a recent visit to Melbourne, said that while he wasn’t offended as a Jew, he was “surprised at the unfortunate, evocative, and in some ways darkly humorous misuse of words”.

Lipshutz said the ADC would investigate the commercial.
http://www.ajn.com.au/news/news.asp?pgID=2423

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Jewish Mob In America
Posted by: Tim68 on May 12, 2007 3:14 PM   
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Here's a good one for you Yellow. Looks like the fix is in up there in Washington.

http://www.natall.com/free-speech/fs008d.html

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Do You Condemn This Kind Of Racism Yellow?
Posted by: Tim68 on May 14, 2007 2:38 PM   
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Jewish groups like the SPLC who publicly condemn white racists also need to publicly comdemn this blatant Jewish bigotry against the Italian people. Do You and the SPLC Condemn This Racism Yellow?

www.break.com/index/jewish-girl-prank-calls-her-parents.html

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By Their Own Admission Jewish Groups Working To Outlaw Free Speech In America
Posted by: Tim68 on May 14, 2007 4:35 PM   
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JEWS PRESSURE BUSH TO SIGN HATE BILL

Last week it seemed the federal anti-hate bill S. 1105 was slated by Democratic leaders to move through the Senate very rapidly, even to a vote by Friday. Now the opposite may be true; pro-hate bill supporters may actually want to delay its consideration in the Senate in order to have time to generate massive pressure upon Pres. Bush to approve a "modified" hate bill or renege altogether on his veto threat.

At the forefront of efforts to back Bush down are Jewish activist groups nationwide. Forward.com today says, "Jewish groups are gearing up to fight the president’s expected veto of a hate crimes bill opposed by Christian conservatives… Jewish organizations are playing a leading role in the coalition pushing the bill, with almost all of them - except the Orthodox ones - taking action to promote the passage of the measure… Michael Lieberman, Washington counsel for the Anti-Defamation League and chair of the coalition of 290 organizations supporting the hate crimes bill (says), 'We believe that after the president sees the support this bill has in the law enforcement community and with other groups, he will listen and sign the bill…'"

The Forward article continues: "'People in the Jewish community have a strong memory and good understanding of the impact hate crimes have,' said Hadar Susskind, Washington director of the Jewish Council for Public Affairs. The JCPA mobilized tens of local Jewish groups to contact their congressmen on the issue…. In an effort to pressure the president not to use his veto pen to block this legislation, Jewish groups are organizing letters and meetings that aim to stress the importance that the Jewish community sees in passing the bill. Other groups will take similar action: mainstream Christian and other religious organizations, law enforcement agencies and women’s rights advocacy groups… If this mobilization does not manage to convince the White House, supporters of the bill intend to attach the measure to a “must pass” piece of legislation, making it difficult for the president to exercise his veto."

Why is the Jewish community not afraid that Jews might be victimized by the federal hate bill? Simple: since the Jewish ADL sets up hate crimes bureaucracies and controls them once they are established, Jews are virtually never indicted. Although Jewish Talmudic literature defames Christ and Christianity and many Jewish leaders fulfill every criteria of "hate speech," blaming Christianity for anti-Semitism and the Holocaust, Jews in countries with hate laws have little to fear from expressing public "hatred or contempt" of Christianity. On the contrary, since 1971 when ADL created Canada's hate crimes gestapo, outspoken members of the political right and, more recently, Christians, live in dread of Jewish "professional complainers," intent on catching them in a word and hauling them into the hate crimes tribunal courts.

New Tactics

Clearly, pro-hate bill strategy is shifting dramatically. When I called the offices of Sen. Gordon Smith and Sen. Edward Kennedy this morning, gone was any hint of rapid movement toward passage. Instead, they say it may be next week before the Senate considers the bill. In fact, the Forward article says the Senate Judiciary may still hold hearings on S. 1105.

What should be the response of all who love freedom? First, we must call, email, fax, or write our Senators demanding they vote against the hate bill. Tell them that if they vote for it you and your friends will never vote for them again. Send your Senator and their 8-10 legislative aides my powerful flyer Anti-Hate Laws Will Make You a Criminal. (All this information is available here at truthtellers.org.)

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RE: Yellow's "Jewish supremacism" is...
Posted by: yellow on May 16, 2007 9:01 AM   
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The answer to your ignorant question is no. In the first place, despite what your Nazi handlers might brainwash you to think, there is no such thing as host/guest populations in a modern democracy where all citizens are equal and have equal rights.

Jews force NO ONE to compete. They don't care about how far up or down the proverbial ladder they go, they just try their best and see where they wind up. Often the results are good. They do contribute disproportionately to every society they've been in and are sorely missed when they are gone. My advice is not to let this happen. Judaizing cultures is an absurd idea. The US culture is not Judaized. It is cosmopolitan in some ways but that is not the same as Judaized.

You mention farmers and peasants. Jews were forbidden from land ownership in the middle ages by the church and jews have not been rural or agricultural until they settled in Palestine in the early 20th century ( the first Jewish immigration wave to Palestine was urban) and restricted to usury. This may be part of the problem. People turnout the way their treatment predisposes them to be but I do believe the Jews have transcended this in recent times.

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An Open Comment to Charopos...
Posted by: yellow on May 18, 2007 2:21 PM   
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You have to be the dumbest piece of excrement ever in history. You probably don't even know how to read and write and need someone to type your crap for You. You are pathetic. You have said that Jews like to write history in order to distort it without reading and assessing a single such work on its own merit. That is ignorant. I can not imagine anyone more stupid than you. You should be ashamed. You really have s**t for brains.

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An Open Comment to the Fascists: Tim68, Charopos, and Svigor.
Posted by: yellow on May 18, 2007 6:10 PM   
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All of you are pathetic. I sometimes wonder if you are being paid to waste time doing this on progressive websites. You and the other reactionaries of various stripes have certainly succeeded in clearing this entire blog of progressive forces. I must be the only one left. If this is the case the reactionaries and their rich handlers have succeeded in so alienating the Left that they are all gone and you've all taken over. Congratulations.

Let me first begin with a criticism of your approach. There are Jews. There is no such thing as "The Jews." The latter suggests that Jews are a monolithic mass instead of the individuals which they actually are. The people who act as members of certain Jewish organizations represent only the organizations. There are many Jews who don't even know of these organizations. Are you going to hold them responsible for the words and deeds of said organizations. It's pretty ignorant to do that considering they aren't involved. In the second place, many people who are not Jewish support the work of Jewish organizations. This must mean that many such organizations have an impact and significance well beyond the Jewish community which is positive and well supported. Then there are organization like SPLC, the ACLU, and the National Lawyers Guild (founded by an Irishman named Paul O'Dwyer) all of these have majority non-Jewish members, participation and work for non-Jewish causes. They are popular causes. Most people who support them aren't Jews.

The list of expulsions provided by Tim68 is apalling. One reason is that most people would immediately recognize how badly it reflects on the non-Jews who persecuted the Jews. Tim68 on the other hand chooses to see it as a bad reflection on the Jews many of whom were innocent children. Tim68 is a low life and an ignoramus like most fascists. His mentality is one important reason no one will ever support the NA or any other fascist organization.

The key is that most people are more in sync with the Jewish community and individual Jews than they are with fascists. The reason is that people like Tim68, Charopos, and Svigor have low intelligence.

Watch Professor MacDonald's career in the near future. I don't expect him to hold his post in the UCAL system for very long.

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This thread is getting thick and hard to sift through as we surpass 600 posts...
Posted by: yellow on May 20, 2007 12:55 AM   
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so I'll just begin anew down here. Svigor, by the tone and content of your posts I'm going to assume you're a poorly educated southern cracker. I've looked up much about the current white supremisict movement in America and it seems that it is no accident that most all of it eminates from the South. Virginia Abernathy and the CCC, the Charles Martel Society, the National Policy Institute, and other organizations all seem to come from the deep and mid-South. This is appropriate since the American South is not only traditionally racist but a rigid, class based patrimonial society which has always abhored social equality of any kind and has never really accepted democracy in any modern sense of the word. It is never suprising to find the current fascist trends fleshing themselves out in such an environment.

The current ultra-rightist atmosphere of undeclared and unprovoked military aggression against defenseless countries, secret torture, unconstitutional executive usurpation of power, warrentless wiretaps, elimination of transparency and oversight in government, a radical redistribution of income and wealth to the upper one percent, the defeat of people's hard earned civil liberties and rights to everything from union organizing to reproductive choice, and the rise of clerico-fascism and theocracy have all created an atmosphere whereby fascists like yourself feel emboldened to come out of the woodwork and attack Jews, Latinos, Blacks, gays, trade unions, feminists, and other groups in order to push your hate agenda which so epitomises your political culture. I can assure you that most "whites" as you call them identify as lovers of democracy and not race-mongering. Hopefully in another year or so when the pendelum swings back toward progressvie politics and the real Americans take the country back for its original ideals you fascists will be shut back up in your pigstys where you belong. Until then try to appreciate and learn from those around you who are different.

I notice that you don't address most of the points I make because they are inconvenient. You seem to have been brought up in a rigid and intolerant environment by people who lack basic humanity and iintellect. This is sad. The smugness of the cracker is of epic proportions. Neither you or MacDonald know much about the Jews at all. They have offered people much more than White nationalism ever could. White nationalism is ill supported because people know it to be a farce. History has shown that fascism thrives when there is no stable and vibrant middle class majority. The US middle class was built on Union membership and a large public sector which provided social benefits in the area of education, social security, subsidized loans of various kinds, affordable health care, and unemployment relief. Public works and investment in scientific research also figured in heavily. These things advanced sociey to everyone's benefit. Now all that is gone and the vast majority are left to fnd for themselves. People are angry and want to find a scapegoat. Here is where you and your miserable ilk come in. You wish to exploit the fear and resentment of the disenfranchised masses to build a fascist movement. I don't believe it will work.

One reason you hate immigration is not because of jobs or the supposed strain on resources but politics. More non-white make it harder to push a fascist agenda. You may outwardly detest Bush but secretly you know he helps your cause. Fascism got scant attention 40 years ago when the top 20% of the population controlled only 38% of the income. Now that the top 1% controls more than 20% of the income and the bottom 80% haven't seen a real increase in income at all for thirty years you know you have fertile ground on which to sow hate and fear. It is the challenge of the left to organize and defeat the circumstances that breed fascism once and for all. One imperative is to win the South.

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I would like very much to know why Fasxists and other anti-semites never discuss...
Posted by: yellow on May 21, 2007 1:03 AM   
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the continual Saudi lobbying since the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait for the US to eliminate Saddam Hussein from power. Israel was divided on the issue with some like the defense minister wanting an attack on Iran. The Saudis and Kuwaitis demanded of the US Saddam's elimination from power. Together these two countries control a plurality of the world's oil production. It was their influence if it was anyone's at all.

This was is all about oil, NOT Israeli security which was not necessarily served by the war in Iraq.

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It is absurd to regard Affirmative Action in America as evidence of...
Posted by: yellow on May 21, 2007 9:31 AM   
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the persecution of "white" people. The very term "Affirmative Action" was contained in the wording of Executive Order #10925 which was signed by JFK and stated, "projects financed with federal funds must take affirmative action to ensure that hiring and employment practices are free of racial bias." This was signed on March 6, 1961 and was in line with civil rights laws and court decisions up to that point. It was also eminently reasonable.

On September 24, 1965 LBJ signed Executive Order #11246 which required that government contractors take "affirmative action" toward prospective minority employees in all aspects of hiring and employment. It was further required that these efforts be documented. In 1969, Nixon required federal contractors to show "affirmative action" to meet the goals of increasing minority employment. Quotas were not mandated.

Beginning with the Bakke decision in 1978, a number of court cases since then have struck down affirmative action in hiring, layoffs, promotions, university admissions and other education, employment and business contractual preferential treatment on the basis of race. Clinton's 1996 guidelines for affirmative action basically abolishes it in principle.

Proposition 209 in California in 1997 and similar bans over the next few years in Washington State and Florida ended affirmative action. In 2003, the US Supreme Court upheld affirmative action in University admissions. The goal was to promote diversity and equal opportunity in education.

The Office of Federal Contractor Compliance Programs is the main enforcer of affirmative action. One need only worry about it if you are a prime contractor with the federal government. In 1995, the US Federal Government doled out about $180 billion in prime contracts affecting roughly a fifth of the workforce at any given time. Women were covered under the affirmative action laws as were other groups including war veterans. Since 2001, the impact of affirmative action has lessened with the flurry of hostile state referendums and court cases overturning the executive orders established in the 1960s. In Michigan, nearly three fifths of the electorate voted to strike down affirmative action in that state in the November 2006 referendum.

According to a 1995 government study, done at the outset of a flurry of state legislative efforts and court rulings designed to roll back affirmative action, white males made up only 29% of the national workforce but held 95% of senior management positions. Affirmative action has been a bogy and a red herring of the far right and race baiters for a long time.

Now the fascists and white supremicists are telling poor, uneducated white people that the US government doesn't serve their interests because just they are white and that whites need their own state (the existing two dozen or so, many of which are the richest places in the world, are deemed not sufficient) despite a plethora of evidence to the contrary. White men increasingly accrue more and more of the world's wealth and the fascist and race baiting Svigor declares this inadequate. The poor whites are exploited by their own white, non-Jewish overlords because they are poor, not because they are white. When you inbeciles realize that class and the stratification of society along class lines, not racial ones, is the key to understanding the world today, you'll see how rediculous you appear in advocating yet another sovereign white state to add to the existing two dozen. The next one will be no less unequal and no less generous to poor whites. It will consist of fascist oppression and use ethnic cleansing to clear the way for more white workers to serve the greedy white elite that would rule that place too.

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RE: I'm going to call it a day with yellow
Posted by: yellow on May 22, 2007 10:43 PM   
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It really takes a lot of stones. There is freedom to peddle your crap everywhere you look!!

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RE: Never mention Zimbabwe...
Posted by: yellow on May 24, 2007 9:50 PM   
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There is absolutely NO evidence for any of the lies which are spewing with the exception of the usual neo-Nazi and other hate sites that print anti-Jewish lies. The Jews of Zimbabwe never numbered more than 7,500 of the 150,000 European population in an African population of over 11.5 million. Most Jews had nothing to do with diamonds or export agriculture. They plied their usual professions in the big cities like teachers, lawyers, doctors, small business, etc. In so doing they brought much to the society. Your lies are bogus as usual. Charopos you are scum.

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A BRIEF WORD ABOUT STEVE SAILOR...
Posted by: yellow on May 30, 2007 9:46 PM   
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I have just looked into this individual and was thoroughly unimpressed. He is a racist to the core. He is so offensive that even stalwart reactionaries like the editorial staff of the National Review have shunned him. I do not belief this to be a NR sop to its neo-con fans and writers. Sailor really is that wretched and hateful.

His remarks on Hurricaine Katrina were appalling. If he had two braincells to rub together and even bothered to take a thoughtful, objective look at the situation he would have seen that the real profile of the Hurricaine Katrina survivor is an educated, hard working, middle class homeowner and not a criminal. Sure there were a few criminals in the whole affair but why taint the majority for the actions of a few. I have met several Hurricaine Katrina survivors and they all seem like decent people. The Black folks in the ninth ward of New Orleans got a raw deal. They were victims of racism both before and after the big storm.

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