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Virginia Tech: Is the Scene of the Crime the Cause of the Crime?

By Mark Ames, AlterNet. Posted April 20, 2007.


Media: Cho Seung-Hui did it because he was crazy and "evil." History: Schoolyard massacres are rebellions against oppressive and bullying environments by students who can't take it anymore.

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Another rampage massacre, this time the worst ever. Which means another fake attempt at trying to understand this uniquely American crime -- these interminable rage killing sprees in our workplaces and our schoolyards.

What makes the Virginia Tech massacre more horrifying isn't just the body count but the reaction of the living: The official fake soul-searching is more idiotic than ever, revealing, if anything, a culture that is so insanely delusional and incapable of self-reflection that it almost makes these rampage massacres seem relatively natural.

The footage from Seung-Hui's "media manifesto" has played on cable news on an endless loop for days now, and no one has considered the merits of his grievances -- except to cast them as proof positive that Cho Seung-Hui was one sick guy.

Of all the idiotic reactions, so far none tops an article posted on MSNBC.com, written by an "investigative reporter" with the ill-begotten name of "Bill Dedman." His investigation allegedly revealed that Cho Seung-Hui, the shooter, displayed alleged classic warning signs of a rampage shooting. Citing a landmark Secret Service study of schoolyard rampage massacre, Dedman observed, "In more than three out of four school shootings, the attacker had made no threat against the schoolteachers or students. But most attackers engaged in some behavior prior to the incident that caused others concern or indicated a need for help. The attackers posed a threat even though they hadn't made a threat."

In other words, if you think someone's weird, but he hasn't threatened anyone, he's a threat.

There are two very serious flaws in Dedman's investigation. First, if the profile of a schoolyard rampager is someone who doesn't threaten anyone but who raises suspicions, then America will have to open up a new GULAG archipelago to hold all of the millions of kids who fit this description. But the second flaw is even more serious: the Secret Service study Dedman cites draws exactly the opposite conclusion: There is no way to profile a potential schoolyard killer. That was what was so shocking about the report. Everyone who has studied these rage massacres knows it. Everyone but journalists like Dedman, that is.

What Dedman's article reveals isn't just the sloppy work of a typical mainstream hack but, rather, of a culture desperate for an easy explanation for the massacre -- one that doesn't implicate it in the crime.

It is is far more difficult to deal with the possibility that other factors may have led to the massacre, factors that are still too painful and close to us to consider. For example, how was this nerdy South Korean immigrant treated at his suburban high school and at Virginia Tech? What is the campus life like? What was it about Virginia Tech that made it the setting for the first student-on-student college massacre? And why were there copycat threats at campuses across Middle America over the following days?

Consider the recent history of schoolyard massacres in America, and you'll see why I ask those questions.

Schoolyard shootings got their start in small-town America, making their appearance in 1996. The white, suburban middle-class massacres that Columbine popularized got their start in rural towns like Moses Lake, Wash., West Paducah, Ky., and Jonesboro, Ark.

True, there had already been schoolyard shootings. In Kentucky alone, there were two that occurred before the Paducah massacre, one in Carter County in 1993 and another in Union in 1994. What was new about these modern school rampage shootings was that they caught on and found sympathy with a broader audience.

Never before had people considered that a schoolyard massacre could happen at any white middle-class suburban high school in America. But through the Moses Lake-Paducah-Jonesboro rage massacres, this new phenomenon entered the collective adolescent conscious. They provided a new context for something already felt, already brewing, but not yet expressed.

In his book "No Easy Answer," Brooks Brown, a former Columbine student and childhood friend of one of the Columbine killers, explained how the rage rebellion context reached his school:

The end of my junior year (1998), school shootings were making their way into the news. The first one I heard about was in 1997, when Luke Woodham killed two students and wounded seven others in Pearl, Miss. Two months later, in West Paducah, Ky., Michael Carneal killed three students at a high school prayer service. ...

Violence had plagued inner-city schools for some time, but these shootings marked its first real appearance in primarily white, middle- to upper-middle-class suburbs. ...

When we talked in class about the shootings, kids would make jokes about how "it was going to happen at Columbine next." They would say that Columbine was absolutely primed for it because of the bullying and the hate that were so prevalent at our school.

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Mark Ames is editor of the eXile, a Moscow English alt weekly. He is the author of "Going Postal: Rage, Murder, and Rebellion: From Reagan's Workplaces to Clinton's Columbine and Beyond," from which a portion of this text is adapted.

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Posted by: Lector on Apr 20, 2007 12:23 AM   
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There are countless Poster Boys out there now for the cause of the Virginia Tech massacre. Most of them don't bother to look at our sick society in general. Most of them are sweeping generalizations.

Robertlightfoot

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» why schools? Posted by: Iconoclast421
» Taste the credibility gap Posted by: Boomerang
» Bravo Mr. Ames Posted by: malcolmartin
Bullying
Posted by: han on Apr 20, 2007 12:43 AM   
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Watching this guy, even the first photos, and then the words he spoke in his video, to me it was Crystal clear: This guy has been bullied into hell.

I'm so glad they have an active policy in the Netherlands now to prevent bullying. They teach victims to stand up for themselves and they teach bullies to show more respect.

Allas the american way of life has little or no respect for the fellow men which is less socially capable.

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» RE: Bullying Posted by: Bobsays
» RE: Bullying Posted by: Donna_Darko
» #1 and 4 Posted by: Donna_Darko
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» Bullying = Mass mudrer??? Posted by: Conservasaurus
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I think you are right
Posted by: Bobsays on Apr 20, 2007 1:00 AM   
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All people need to be treated with basic respect. Nobody should be frozen out of social discourse because they are too quiet, dress badly or aren't 'cool'. In fact, Cho basically executed the cool kids as a statement: 'say I am not cool, then you will pay the price.'

A university has to be a broad church and the university must allow space for everybody. It can't just have time for the beautiful rah rah types. I smell a preference at this school for only the cheerleader/football player types.

When I went to university grades were not the be all, and end all. Unlike today, where campus life revolves only around grades and the social status of the job you get at the end of it all. This competitiveness will breed the opposite: catastrophic failure. Grades are not everything and a university must have a varied public life that has space for everyone.

Sadly, we will not see the end of such disasters.

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So why aren't their shootings everyday?
Posted by: EagleMB on Apr 20, 2007 1:55 AM   
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If we assume that this article is right, and the reason for the shooting was the culture of the campus, then it begs the question...why aren't there more shootings? The author wants us to believe that Cho was not an anomaly, but a victim of school oppression. But everyday tens of thousands of kids are bullied, so shouldn’t we be seeing tens of thousands of school shootings?

The reality is that most people are sane and are able to deal with bullies in ways that don't end in multiple deaths.

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» Seems to me Posted by: orwellwasn'tdreaming
Quit blaming bullying and stop living in fear.
Posted by: HughScott on Apr 20, 2007 2:30 AM   
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I was born in California (1935) but grew up in Louisiana and got the crap beat of me in the sixth grade because I talked like a Yankee due to my liberal parents’ influence.

The painful experience taught me two things: speak with a Southern accent (which I learned QUICKLY!) and be empathetic to minorities. To this day, 60 years later, I talk with a drawl and side with minorities on most social issues.

As for crazed campus shooters, by definition, an underlying psychological disorder is responsible, not previous bullying. And for students at other universities who given into the climate of media/Bush-inspired fear-mongering, the statistical odds of you being killed on campus are extremely remote. So muster up some intestinal fortitude (guts), quit living in fear and enjoy your remaining years while you still have some.

Hugh E. Scott, editor of King-George.biz -- the only website with hardcopy proof of White House corruption. AlterNet readers who object to my NON-PROFIT campaign to expose President Bush as a lying crook can email me through the website rather than comment here.

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» I hear you. Posted by: Artkansas
» I grew up in the South as well Posted by: Artkansas
What?
Posted by: brownie42 on Apr 20, 2007 2:38 AM   
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Congratulations, Capt. Justification. You just spent many words and, I assume, much time, trying to explain a senseless act by a disturbed individual. And it is senseless. I look forward to your next posting justifying something equally troubling ... I'll just throw out the war on Iraq and, oh, let's say child rape as examples of similar depravity. I'm sure there were many external factors that would lead to such things. Doesn't change the fact that they're wrong. Or that they're insane. Millions were/are bullied and ridiculed. Millions didn't/don't commit mass murder. Some things just aren't acceptable, no matter how many explanations a(n idiotic, self-righteous, career-advancing jackass) provides. It's a sad time now. This was a tragic event involving a troubled individual. Being a liberal doesn't have to equate to being a fool.

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» Not senseless Posted by: MartianBachelor
Abolish high school
Posted by: karma_ran_over_dogma on Apr 20, 2007 3:30 AM   
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No one learns anything in those concentration camps anyway. Few people learn much in college either, but at least they don't have to pay student loans the rest of their life for high school.

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Interesting
Posted by: kepstein7777 on Apr 20, 2007 3:28 AM   
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One theme of the article: to profile the schools and their culture, is a good idea, if only for knowledge and curiosity. Maybe some statistics on school violence, number of kids diagnosed with depression, physical environment, etc...But I'm not sure how accurate the revenge of the nerds theory is.

In the case of Columbine, those kids did not seem like geeks, freaks or outcasts. They seemed more like Tier II type kids: cool enough, but not the star kids. I seem to recall a girl who helped them get weapons or something was rather normal looking and attractive; why would someone like her take that kind of risk for geeks? To me, it seemed like more of an ego trip by a couple of spoiled brats than revenge of the nerds, even if they said so in their manifesto.

You're right about this country, and probably other countries. We don't like to reflect on our culture or environment. We would rather look for simple answers that make us feel comfortable with our prejudices. I also think that we fear taking the blame off the killer(s) or justifying what they did.

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State and VA Tech Responsibility
Posted by: nobuko on Apr 20, 2007 3:36 AM   
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For the life of me, I can't understand WHY VA Tech did not Suspend/TERMINATE this student and refund any monies due him. Why the mental institution did not place a Red Flag on Cho is just unbelievable. Their excuse being because he was NOT hospitalized, give me a break!

I hope the families sue the hell out of VA Tech and the State of Virginia! This incident, CERTAINLY could have been avoided, by dismissing/suspended/grounded from campus, and by all means Cho should have been in the Judicial system, FLAGGED so he could NOT PURCHASE ANY FIRE ARMS!

After Columbine, one would "think" that the schools/colleges, Police Dept., and Mental Health facilites, would be on top of troubled individuals like Cho, ESPECIALLY after he had visited and a determination was MADE that he was a danger to himself and society!

It appears, we have NOTHING but dummies running the Police Departments, Schools, Colleges and our Government! Are they all RELATED to this administration? It appears so, for they all appear to be VERY INCOMPETENT, THOUGHTLESS and IRRESPONSIBLE!

Now they are BLAMING the victims because they did not fight back; I would like to see anyone of those punks in the same situation, and watch their reaction; they would run for cover, they only thing they have is a lot of mouth, and NOTHING to back it up with but total BS! Heck, most of them haven't seen a day in the military, as in the Bush Administration .... THEIR TALKING HEADS! It's ALWAYS someone else's fault; NEVER THEIRS! This is what money and position has given our country, a bunch of first class CHICKENHAWKS!

I am so sick of these Talking Heads that I do not watch TV 90% of the time!

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» RE: State and VA Tech Responsibility Posted by: malignedtruth
bullies?
Posted by: fourddream on Apr 20, 2007 4:27 AM   
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The guy has all the sugns of being a trauma based Monarch mind control victim (this is an extension of nazi trauma based mind control experiments continued in the states after they brought goebels in for that reason). Family abuse and placement in traumatic situations is all part of the creation of MPD (multiple personalities- which can be manipulated and triggered by the "handler". The family abuse and incest is part of it, family will always have a government connection and are payed well or bribed or blackmailed to put their children into the programme.
The fact that his sister works for nato military intellegence too should set off alarm bells.
Thesec students were also obeying their conditioning on a lower level, to obay and trust authority otherwise they would have attacked ther assailant.
The only bullies here is those we call the government and their psy ops nightmare. Got YOU scared yet and running to them for PROTECTION? Tes just one big protection rakket being played out onthe american people. These scholls are turning into killing chambers and should as of now be boycotted until this government (sic) is taken down.

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» How's the tin foil hat? Posted by: Scientz
» RE: bullies? Posted by: longlivecheney
» RE: bullies? Posted by: ArtemInox
This
Posted by: Fat Man at the Buffet Line on Apr 20, 2007 4:32 AM   
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Really pisses me off..... If you hate your life and your surroundings etc.... Dont take other people with you when you decide to go off and end your life.

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» RE: This Posted by: Neiljohn
Denial Denial
Posted by: Abushite on Apr 20, 2007 4:42 AM   
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It's America culture that has developed a disregard for human
life - that breeds the killing in your country, in Guantanamo, in Iraq ---- wherever . don't look any further than the new form of lower life - no longer lawyers, but journalists - the propagators of death without a conscience. Who else would market the tasteless videos of a common murderer ??

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» RE: Denial Denial, and... Posted by: vangogh69
Kids will
Posted by: mysticalrae on Apr 20, 2007 4:57 AM   
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reflect the mood and beleifs of their culture in an unobstructed way. Add in a weak or damaged personality, and these are the things that may manifest.
Its interesting to me that the media has gone wild with this story of 33 unfortunate victims, yet two days later 300 people died in Iraq and it hardly made mention. No flags at half mast or memorial services. What is the real difference between the two events? Both have been perpetrated by insane beleifs and acted on in an unconsciable way.

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» RE: Kids will: mysticalrae Posted by: Basenjis
» RE: Kids will Posted by: sagefoxx
THEIR CHILDHOOD BACKGROUNDS
Posted by: verneee on Apr 20, 2007 5:04 AM   
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Media: I dare you to be bold!

If you decide to get serious about CAUSE of youth suicide, time bombings etc (rather than re-mouthing the politically correct lines handed you by the self serving professionals) then ask the forbidden question: “What is the Great Common Denominator in the childhood background of a random sampling of time bomb killers suicide completers etc?” What is the ultimate sadness and anger that one can impose on a child, a sadness he never gets over, no matter how brave a smiling face he wears? What is the trauma they all had in common in their CHILDHOOD background? Repeat: CHILDHOOD CHILDHOOD CHILDHOOD. Why is everone in the media so afraid of reviewing the CHILDHOOD backgrounds? Notice how little has been reported on this current killers childhood
This question was asked (and answered ) decades ago by authentic researchers. The answer was politically incorrect then and even more so now and so was quickly suppressed. Vern in Canada .

PS Be prepared to leave town at midnite for your insubordination and indeed out right threat to the professionals who build their empires on the blood and tears of dying children, CAUSE well concealed. .….

You doubt my claim of professionl and media cover-up of cause? Then have a look at yourself a few weeks from now and ask “Just what was it in verns question that caused me to avoid even ASKING the question, let alone publishing the answer.

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Let's Take a Moment
Posted by: SonOfBaldwin on Apr 20, 2007 5:12 AM   
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Actually, I don't think the video of this young man showed anything but a disturbed individual. I think it's quite a leap to say that he's been bullied. I'd rather say that he PERCEIVED himself as a victim. Whether or not he ACTUALLY was is a matter of debate. I've yet to hear anyone--administrators, faculty or students, Nikki Giovanni among them--say that this man was bullied. Instead, I've heard them say that he made everyone else uncomfortable. I've heard them say that he stalked young women. I've heard them say that he refused the hands of those that had tried to reach out to him.

The fact that many of us here are trying to make HIM the victim astounds me. He killed 32 brilliant CONTRIBUTORS to society. We can postulate all we wish, but the evidence we have before us says, very clearly, that he didn't do so because he was bullied. He did so because he was incredibly disturbed.

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The best reply to the question: Nature? Nurture? is Both!
Posted by: Sojourner on Apr 20, 2007 5:27 AM   
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It's similar to the issues that arise over fictional violence or sexuality. Does a certain kind of fiction produce perverts?

Well, in some cases, it seems to. In most cases, such fiction is actually a release; the fantasy shows itself to be only that. But for some cases, the fantasy works to disorient.

So this author's use of the fact that violent behavior cannot be predicted accurately or such actors be typed does not then prove that it is the environment, alone, that is to be held responsible.

Jumping to opposite conclusions has no more merit than jumping to conclusions. But it does get you published, doesn't it. Between the two journalists at issue in this article, is it any wonder that Americans are confused?

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College is different
Posted by: feduphoosier on Apr 20, 2007 5:33 AM   
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I don't see it - not in college. There are so many ways to avoid bullying in college, its an entirely different environment than elementary school or high school.

I was bullied a lot in elementary school, and harassed in high school - these are much more limited environments, with less choices of social groups, or avenues for escape from bullies. I can see how it would be harder to deal with bullies at a young age, when trapped in a classroom or on a playground with them.

From my experience, the bullying grew less and less as I grew into larger and larger schools. It was better in Middle School (new kids, new clubs, new chances to meet people