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The Religious Right Has Had Its Day? Fat Chance

By Rob Boston, Church and State. Posted April 16, 2007.


A recent essay in Time magazine claimed "The religious right's era is over." Someone better tell that to the GOP presidential candidates praying for the fundamentalist movement's blessings.

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A provocative essay in Time magazine raised more than a few eyebrows in mid-February with a headline that made a startling claim: "The Religious Right's Era Is Over," it blared.

Moderate evangelical minister Jim Wallis, the author of the piece, confidently asserted that the Religious Right's day has passed.

"We have now entered the post-Religious Right era," wrote Wallis, author of the popular book God's Politics: Why the Right Gets It Wrong and the Left Doesn't Get It. "Though religion has had a negative image in the last few decades, the years ahead may be shaped by a dynamic and more progressive faith that will make needed social change more possible."

It's a stunning claim that might have sold more than a few magazines. But is it true?

A careful reading of Wallis' column reveals that his evidence for the death of the Religious Right could charitably be called thin: He asserts that younger evangelicals are deserting the Religious Right "in droves" and that a more broadly based evangelical agenda is emerging.

This new agenda, Wallis insists, will shift the focus away from divisive social issues like same-sex marriage and intelligent design and toward "poverty and economic justice, global warming, HIV/AIDS, sex trafficking, genocide in Darfur and the ethics of the war in Iraq."

Concludes Wallis confidently, "The era of the Religious Right is now past, and it's up to all of us to create a new day."

If the Religious Right is dead, someone forgot to tell that to many leading political figures. The unusually early start to the 2008 campaign season has been marked by a number of aspiring Republican presidential hopefuls contorting themselves to please Religious Right honchos.

One of the nation's leading experts on the Religious Right, John C. Green, a professor of political science at the University of Akron, said that Wallis has probably overstated the case in proclaiming a post-Religious Right era.

"Wallis has a point about the Religious Right losing its near monopoly on political discourse in American politics," Green said. "The rise of the 'Religious Left' and the reaction of moderates means that religious voters will encounter a wider range of options at election time.

"However," Green continued, "it may be premature to claim that the Religious Right organizations will fade away or that their target constituencies will withdraw from politics. Indeed, the existence of other religious voices may lead the Religious Right to step up its activism in the short run. The last 30 years have shown that religious conservatives are very resourceful and not easily discouraged in the face of opposition."

Another Religious Right watcher, journalist Michelle Goldberg of the on-line magazine Salon, whose 2006 book Kingdom Coming: The Rise of Christian Nationalism is highly critical of the Religious Right, isn't persuaded by claims that the movement is dead.

"I sincerely hope that Jim Wallis is right. I also sincerely doubt it," Goldberg said. "Certainly, the movement has suffered some major setbacks, including the falls of Ted Haggard and Tom DeLay and the loss of Congress. But the Religious Right has been pronounced dead many, many times before -- after the televangelist scandals of the late '80s, after Clinton was elected and reelected and during the 1999 presidential race, when The Economist opined, 'The armies of righteousness, which once threatened to overwhelm the Republican Party, are downcast and despondent.'"

Goldberg noted that the 2006 election may in some ways have strengthened the Religious Right, since incumbents representing some of the last vestiges of northeastern moderate Republicanism lost their seats.

Is the Religious Right kaput? Even a casual glance at some recent news stories would seem to indicate otherwise. Consider, for example, the case of Mitt Romney.

Running for a U.S. Senate seat from Massachusetts against Ted Kennedy in 1994, Romney positioned himself as a different kind of Republican -- a socially liberal one. On the campaign trail, Romney vowed to defend legal abortion and be an even bigger champion of gay rights than Kennedy.

Today Romney sounds like an entirely different man. After losing to Kennedy and going on to be elected governor of Massachusetts for a single term, Romney has decided to seek the Republican presidential nomination. He now blasts legal abortion and plays up his opposition to same-sex marriage. He also accepted an invitation to deliver this spring's commencement address at TV preacher Pat Robertson's Regent University.

What happened? Political observers say the answer is obvious: Social liberalism might have been fine for a Massachusetts Republican, but it will never play well on the national GOP stage. To survive the primaries, Romney must placate the Religious Right -- and that's exactly what he's doing.


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The Religious Right will right again.
Posted by: Intraspecto on Apr 16, 2007 1:45 AM   
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So long as liberals continue to parade around pro abortion stances, denounce God, and have nutcases that show up on TV claiming that they want religion out of the American way of life because of their children, you will continue to fight the stupid fight.
Just like backing gun control, which alienates most of the working class stiffs that vote Republican, you will cut your own throats politically over nothing.
Grow up and let go of hatred for religion, because that is the only way they will stop hating you.

-An agnostic

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» Yet another neaderthal Posted by: Knowmad
The Religious Wrong
Posted by: Tom Degan on Apr 16, 2007 3:09 AM   
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A good piece but I must disagree with the premise that the so-called "Religious Right" is strong and healthy.

Like the poor, the religious right will always be with us. But I do believe that their heavy influence on America's political dialogue is all but finished. 2008 will prove as to whether or not I'm correct in my assumptions.

Pray for peace.

Tpm Degan
Goshen, NY
"The Rant" by Tom Degan

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» RE: The Religious Wrong Posted by: robmikejas
Intraspecto is an example of why Republicans will lose the White House in 2008.
Posted by: HughScott on Apr 16, 2007 3:33 AM   
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Freedom-loving Americans are sick and tired of the rightwing venom being spewed on Talk Radio, FOX News and Internet blogs.

Case at point: Intraspecto. The majority of voters have had it with his kind of Karl Rove rhetoric. They want answers, not asinine remarks.

As for Republican presidential candidates, not one has offered a way of ending the Iraq war and they never will because neoconservatives have a death grip on the GOP.

Like Intraspecto's vitriol, more and more citizens – religious and otherwise -- are rejecting the imperialist ideology of neocons and their hypocritical Christian “right” bedfellows.

Hugh E. Scott, editor of FreedomCentralUSA.com, an investigative website dedicated to the destruction of domestic fascism (neoconservatism) using truth and the Internet as WMDs.

I also edit King-George.biz -- the only website with hardcopy proof of White House corruption.

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» Excuse me?!? Posted by: peaknik35
» Don't sully America Posted by: kackermann
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Good catch
Posted by: kepstein7777 on Apr 16, 2007 3:50 AM   
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Many progressives have taken this last election as though the tide is turning, and have gone on all sorts of tangents in wishful thinking.

Remember, the Religious Righties are fanatics. When things don't go 100% their way, they don't just take up another hobby, or go have a beer.

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Racism is the Rabid Right’s Ace in the Hole
Posted by: shangrilalad on Apr 16, 2007 4:36 AM   
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The author didn’t mention the most powerful issue that unites the “Religious Right,” which is racism. Racism is the Rabid Right’s Ace in the Hole and anyone who underestimates it’s political power is a fool.

Gone are the days when Republicans and Conservatives call blacks, “niggers” in public, they have become more cunning to get their point across. Their words have changed, but their tune remains the same and it resonates all over the country.

Watch what happens to Obama.

Conservatives I know, don't call it Basketball. They call it Niggerball.

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» Welfare and "handsouts". Posted by: kittynboi
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it is OVER for the right
Posted by: wawa on Apr 16, 2007 5:02 AM   
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The right is well organized and will not give up,

But, there are MORE moderate and progressive Christians in the USA than the fundamentalist kind [Alternet doesn't publish articles about -or from them though]

We moderate and progressive Christians are NOT represented by the right and we are fed up-some of us are even flaming mad over the miss-use of God by politicians to get elected.


Here's an idea Alternet-why not investigate how many millions Hillary has taken from AIPAC.

AIPAC does NOT represent all USA Jews,

The religious right does NOT represent most USA Christians.


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http://www.wearewideawake.org/

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» Well Said. Louder, Please! Posted by: Sparks56
ALWAYS follow the money
Posted by: LeaderofMen on Apr 16, 2007 5:29 AM   
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ALWAYS. ALWAYS. ALWAYS.

Until the so-called religious right becomes a de-funded ideology it will continue to be a major influence on American politics.

Time magazine was unbelievably irresponsible to publish that article. The author manufactured evidence to support hollow arguments for his premise. A premise that has no basis in truth or reality.

Money is the way of American politics. MONEY. Get it? As long as fear-loving Christians fund warmongering, lying, unethical Christian politicians it will continue to be a force majeur in the US.

Anyone who is paying attention to this issue can see the EVIDENCE before us with regard to this: Mitt Romney is being funded for being anti-gay and a flip-flopper. This proves that unethical Christians are willing to pour tens of thousands of dollars into his unethical campaign. John McCain somehow reverses his thought processes and joins the religious right. Tens of thousands of dollars are poured into his campaign as well - by unethical fear-filled Christians who love his stance on war.

US politics is filled to the brim with Christians who hate evidence, who despise diversity, who love manufactured facts and reality, and who, at the drop of a hat, will turn a blind eye to all that is good and right in the world. And, they will empty their wallets to secure that as a continued established way of life for themselves and the children they bring up.

Oh no. The religious right is just regrouping.

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Remember Diderot's wisdom
Posted by: reval on Apr 16, 2007 5:55 AM   
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These fanatics will forever be a pain in the ass to civilized life on this planet until we begin teach our children to recognize all religion for what it is - a virulent mental disorder - instead of genuflecting before their idols.

Remember Diderot's words: Mankind will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.

His words ring more true today than ever.
WVCSR
Rev. El Mundo

Encourage them to visit the congregation soon.

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Change is in the air
Posted by: xenacat on Apr 16, 2007 6:49 AM   
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and the religious right has peaked but that is far from saying they are through as a potent political force. While the Republican presidential candidates are behind the curve on courting the evangelical nuts, it still speaks to the percieved power these fanatics have recently wielded. Mitt Romney is a complete whore on this issue - even more so than McCain or Rudy G, if that is possible. Our only recourse is to keep speaking out and to keep fighting this blinding religious ignorance where ever we may find it. I'm somewhat pessimistic that we can undo the destruction to the concept of church and state in this country or reverse the horrible damage that Idiot design and the keep-your legs-crossed-until-marriage boondoggle have done to our culture. My concern (although not sympathy) is that for too long the religious right wing nuts have been crying wolf by claiming that any poor soul who merely disagree with them was "persecuting" them and that in the near future they may find out what real religious persecution is. Economic conditions are rough for most folks and very few people want someone else's hypocritical nose in their sex lives for any length of time. The may well be a very severe anti-christian backlash in the works.

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Ding Dong -- the Witch is NOT dead , Jim !
Posted by: AdamSelene40 on Apr 16, 2007 6:56 AM   
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Of the voices calling on Democrats to 'make nice' with evangelicals, Jim Wallis of Sojourners is probably the most well meaning. His committment to social justice issues is certainly more central than Rick ("The Purpose Driven Life" ) Warren's.

But like Rick Warren he has as just much to gain by way of peer approval and self esteem by moving centrist Democrats to the right and into the Evangelical camp as from persuading Evangelicals to give some lip service to environmental and social issues.

The point that Wallis misses is that his one book and web based "Sojourners " isn't remotely the media equal of Dobson's Focus on Family much less Fallwell's Christian Broadcasting Network -- and that Warren, though a nice enough fellow in many ways, will never actually do more than gently chide Dobson and Fallwell's more extreme positions -- he will never actually oppose them.

The important thing to remember is that that the Religious Right's leadership is far more political than faithful ... and far more self-serving than idealistic -- and their movement has survived it's ups and downs for over a hundred years. These are the direct descendents of the good folks who brought us the Drug Wars, the 1920 edition of the KKK, Alcohol Prohibition, and the Scopes Trial.

They are power brokers; their path to wealth and power doesn't depend on mustering majorities or achieving legislative victories on their key issues: abortion, gays, guns, evolution, and Harry Potter. All they need to keep the contributions flowing is to keep 'fighting the good fight' against the godless and the liberal. All they need to do to maintain their influencee in Washington is to be seen as reliably delivering a relatively small handfull of voters in key states in key races.

And frankly, I can't think of anything stupider than putting on our Munchkin hats and singing "Ding Dong the Witch is Dead" because Time Magazine wanted a snappy headline for a feature article one week.

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You can't shut down fanaticism
Posted by: LoveYourEnemies on Apr 16, 2007 7:01 AM   
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I know the Religious Right. I used to be part of them until they started spewing out the nonsense that America is a christian country. I'm an African-American and I found that to be incredibly stupid. What really set me off in 2004/2005 was listening to African-American preachers, in the pocket of Bush's Faith-Based Initiative, say that slavery was a "minor bump in the road" and that we should forgive and "forget". What??? Here are some names, Paul Sheppard, Harry Jackson, TD Jakes, and Jesse Lee Petersen (a staple for Hannity... who is on the board of BOND).

You will never get rid of the religious right. They may go underground and fester like a growth of deadly fungus for a while, but they will never go away. Why? They are motivated by hatred, fear, self-righteousness stemming from low self-esteem, lack of intellectual curiosity and intellectual honesty, a persecution complex, and plain ignorance. Again, I was one of them. I'm free now. I had to face the truth that all of us are equal and most of us are trying to make sense of this world and secure a safe place for our families. There are only a few who make us scared of those things that go bump in the night (terrorism, illegal immigration, "secular humanism", homosexuality).

Look at it this way. A Jehovah's Witness knocks on your door at 7 in the morning on a Saturday and wakes you up. You open the door and they try to shove one of their comic book magazines in your face. You are angry and basically kick them off your doorstep rudely. You think you've discouraged them? Not at all. Instead, you've motivated them more. Why? Because they have a persecution complex. They figure, "I've suffered for Jehovah." And they are motivated to do it again and again.

I've listened to Dobson's Focus of the Family. I've heard episodes where he comes back from the field of battle against the evil legions of liberal secular humanists (they actually said that mess once). He is actually GLEEFUL when people call him names and they celebrate it on air. "I took one for the Lord!!! Look at me, I'm a martyr!"

How do you stop them? I don't know. But, berating them isn't working. All you have to do is say, "Look, you've had the government for SIX YEARS. Six years!!!" They ranted about the "War on Christmas" during their heyday. You can't stop someone who has a persecution complex. They're just too angry.

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» re: Posted by: CatDad
Article is wrong in every way.
Posted by: kenhymes on Apr 16, 2007 7:37 AM   
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This article, like countless others on Alternet, strives to prove the danger of an imminent theocracy in the United States. The author needs to get out more: out into the actual church culture here, and out to countries that know something about actual theocracies and how they happened.

THE RELIGIOUS IS RIGHT IN THE US IS UTTERLY, PERMENENTLY LOSING EVERY SIGNIFICANT BATTLE ON THEIR AGENDA. Only people who have no real contact with religious life could swallow these fear-mongering stories. The youth are abandoning right wing churches in droves. the growth and confidence are in small and medium sized churches with moderate to progressive social values. More significantly, most young christians are much more interested in non-Church expressions of faith: music, "emergent" church evenets without the trappings of traditional structures, and internet discussion and support groups.

The religious right peaked a while ago. The political pressure the national organizations are able to bring is the result of organizing and fund-raising that happened between ten and thirty years ago. Yes, there are a large number of right-wing fundamentalists. But their ability to influence events is waning quickly.

Further, this kind of talk from leftists is insulting to multiple constituencies, and pointlessly so. It insults Christians who are working to change the idea of what church is; it insults leftists who believe in God; it insults secularists who fought hard to win battles over gay rights and religion-free education, and WON!! More cruelly, it insults those who really live in theocracies, countries where women are beaten on the street, people are routinely murdered, for violating the majority's idea of purity. This is never going to happen here. We're much too mercantilist, hedonistic and individualistic.

I really don't see why the "Internet Left" is so focused on this issue. It's important that we continue to support gay teenagers, and young women in need of reproductive choice, these are the real victims of the right wing fundies. But the core issues of the left - economic justice and pluralism - are not only poorly served but actively undermined by sweeping, ill-informed assertions about religious life in America.

All the articles focus either on legal battles in a small town - did we expect there would be ZERO resistance to social change? - or on overblown shells of national organizations, quoting those groups' own claims of membership and influence as if they were fact, without any corroborating evidence of their impact. The Bush White House is the friendliest to these groups in the history of our country, and it is a political disaster, which has delivered very little for their agenda. Are you expecting that Americans will elect someone further to the right now? Get real. Enjoy and exploit progress, don't indulge in masturbatory horror fantasies about monstrous enemies, when they're actually rather sad little scared groups of people having trouble with change in the society.

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» RE: Article is wrong in every way. Posted by: karma_ran_over_dogma
Newt
Posted by: Basenjis on Apr 16, 2007 8:29 AM   
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Of all the far right candidates who have decided, in spite of their colorful marital escapades, to court the religious right, Newt Gingrich is by far the smartest and the most canny. He knows something the others don't--that is that the religious fundamentalists love a prodigal son. When he said he has "gotten down on his knees and sought God's forgiveness," he said the magic words. Now he can continue on his merry way, glibly spouting off all his family values rhetoric with a clear conscience. He has been redeemed, saved and sanctified. All is forgiven.

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» RE: Newt Posted by: charemor
Very well said...
Posted by: reval on Apr 16, 2007 9:10 AM   
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Thank you.

Rev. El
Pastor, WVCSR

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did anyone else get a laugh from this one...
Posted by: babs on Apr 16, 2007 10:02 AM   
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"Falwell also has ambitious goals for 2008. Late last year, he announced plans to form a council of allied religious leaders to screen GOP candidates for ideological purity. We are hoping to find the next Ronald Reagan," Falwell said."

Ideological purity? ROFL

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» RE: did anyone else get a laugh from this one... Posted by: karma_ran_over_dogma
Underreported story - Obama lies about never being a Muslim
Posted by: karma_ran_over_dogma on Apr 16, 2007 10:07 AM   
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According to the LA Times, all his childhood friends say he was a devout Muslim but he says, "I was never a Muslim." I might vote for an ex-Muslim but I don't vote for liars.

Yet another tedious article about fundy Xtians who are going nowhere. Part of the reason the right doesn't take us seriously is that we tend never to see ANY threat from Islam, which can become equally (at least!) as demented and hateful a religion as Christianity. Alternet likes to go for the easy targets.

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The religious wrong
Posted by: willymack on Apr 16, 2007 10:27 AM   
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I'm aware as anyone of the restrictions of religion written into our Constitution. When in doubt, I pick up my copy of our Constitution for clarification. One thing for certain is that there will ALWAYS be a percentage of believers in the absurd, even with a mountain of evidence to the contrary right in front of them. Many of them are dim bulbs, lacking the capacity for critical thinking or logic, and most of the rest are along for the ride because of a crying need to conform and a fear of being "isolated" from what they consider the mainstream. This is probably the greatest weakness in our society-the refusal to see Reality for what it is, and a strong reluctance to use our intellects for our benefit. I believe our civilization is unsustainable for several reasons, chief among them, the tendency to think that others will resolve our self-inflicted problems, and blaming them when that doesn't happen.

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This has happened before.
Posted by: kittynboi on Apr 16, 2007 10:34 AM   
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The religious right waxes and wanes, and we've seen them retreat many times. They have been dissatisfied with GOP candidates in the past. They weren't TOO fond of Bush 1, especially after his first term, nor were they hugely enamored with Bob Dole, not like they have been with Bush and Reagan.

The late 80s and early 90s. So what did they do without viable candidates and Democrats int he white house?

What they will likely do this time; they don't retreeat from politics, but they do shift some of their focus and resources from the Federal level to the state and local level. Much of the 90s saw them focusing intently on infiltrating school boards, running stealth candidates, etc. They just move on to greener pastures if the federal government is temporarily unwelcoming to them.

I expect them to do this after 08, and maybe for the next few elections, because it will give them time to run and groom candidates they approve of, preparing them for a presidential run in 2012 or beyond.

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Yes, the religious right prospers on calls to duty.
Posted by: Sojourner on Apr 16, 2007 11:35 AM   
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I do not see a strong prospect for the devil "secularism" to advance in the years immediately ahead. But I do see prospects of life getting harder for Americans as a consequence of past disasters like Bush II and diminishing resources. Since religion always prospers during hard times, I think it unlikely the religious right will suffer much.

Each generation must learn again the lessons from earlier generations. This generation is learning, by virtue of the clear visibility of its leadership, that those who claim to be holier-than-thou have clay feet. Holier-than-thou must contend with reality, and at the moment reality has begun to take a toll.

But the ingrained streak of punitive nativism that the religious right represents is as American as mom and apple pie. I wish Jim Wallis well and hope he's got his finger on the pulse. But it's too early to count our chickens.

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» And that's the truth. Posted by: Sojourner
Evolution of consciousness
Posted by: redbrownandblueparty on Apr 16, 2007 11:47 AM   
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Religion is evolving past the backwater of the fixated right. The Red Brown Blue party recognizes the human need for meaning in the form of secular or traditional "religions." For example, Jesus is a made up myth with a very tiny seed of historicity. I can use him or Mary Magdalene or Krishna or Allah or God or any suchlike symbol. Until enough people get past the stage of fundamentalism and literalism, reactionaries plugged into patriarchic power needs will flourish. Free expression educational outlets such as Alternet help the process of elevating consciousness.

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The GOP Is Fading Anyway
Posted by: Gitaiba on Apr 16, 2007 11:54 AM   
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It doesn't matter than the GOP still pays fealty to these nutcases. Their party is quickly becoming a marginalized, regional, and elderly one. They've got about thirty years to either completely reinvent themselves, in part by kicking out the fundie nuts that alienate the rest of America, or to fade into total irrelevance.

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The "Religious" "Right" is over after exposing itself
Posted by: xbj on Apr 16, 2007 12:43 PM   
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It's only over, not because of any fight from the left, but simply because it exposed itself for what it really is: Homegrown American Luciferian Nazism (minus all the German-Aryan racial elements).

And having nothing at all to do with Christ's life, His teachings, anything He said, His death, or REAL PACIFIST CHRISTIANITY.

The "Religious" "Right" was NEVER Christian, it was Christianist from its very inception, a political movement of power and based on establishing a fascist theocracy based on intolerance and endless war against all other religions, including Judaism. As Zionism had done earlier in the 20th century with Judaism, the "Religious" "Right" did with its own creation Christianism, and now that the entire movement has been exposed, as is also the case with Zionism, as anti-Christian and anti-Judaic, it will fall and fall hard.

Jesus is the Prince of Peace, not the Prince of Endless War Against Evildoers Who Want Us Destroyed and Wiped Off The Face Of The Earth. Lucifer is the god of war. And far too much religion, turning it into anti-religion.

And nothing any Christianist or Zionist or their "flipside", Islamicists are going to say is going to change that simple fact of what the Man did, what He said, what He taught, and how He lived and died and how and what He died for.

Peace. Love your enemy. Bless those that curse you.

The "religious" "right" has always been neither from its very inception, and now it's terminal as more truly caring and considerate and loving people wake up to the truth that they've been duped and lied to and USED.

Christ's sheep ARE being separated from Lucifer's goats, and one road is very wide while the other is very narrow.

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Textbook case for fading Christian right popularity: Pat Robertson's Christian Coalition
Posted by: HughScott on Apr 16, 2007 12:55 PM   
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Since President Clinton’s re-election in 1997, the Christian Coalition made only limited progress influencing voters and has steadily declined in popularity with its 1.2 million membership roll decreasing to less than 400,000.

Revenues have also fallen -- from a high of $26.5 million in 1996 to $1.3 million in 2004. The Coalition is now in debt because the IRS revoked its tax-exempt status for distributing "voter guides" which had a partisan bias.

The revocation cost the Coalition $300,000 in back taxes plus penalties. In an attempt to regain sound financial footing, the Coalition reorganized as the "Christian Coalition of America." However, churches that once embraced the CCA have disassociated themselves from it for fear of losing their own tax-exempt status.

Hugh E. Scott, editor of King-George.biz -- the only website with hardcopy proof of White House corruption.

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Time article is just an attempt to stir up the readership
Posted by: Dboy on Apr 16, 2007 2:04 PM   
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If you look at Time magazine covers for the past several years, you cannot help but notice the pro-religion bias. This article is just an attempt by the christian establishment to stir up their sheeple and get the persecution complex pumping.

I live in Dallas Texas and I assure you that the christians here are getting bigger and dumber every day. We have what I consider the worst form of christian: the Alpha Consumer Christian. We have corporate churches with parking lots filled with Escalades and Hummers. Christians here in Dallas give money to their deity using chicken buckets for offering plates.

This is how I know God does not exist. If he did, then certainly Dallas would have been destroyed by a meteor by now. This place is a christian shit-hole.

Dboy

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Time article is just an attempt to stir up the readership
Posted by: Dboy on Apr 16, 2007 2:06 PM   
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If you look at Time magazine covers for the past several years, you cannot help but notice the pro-religion bias. This article is just an attempt by the christian establishment to stir up their sheeple and get the persecution complex pumping.

I live in Dallas Texas and I assure you that the christians here are getting bigger and dumber every day. We have what I consider the worst form of christian: the Alpha Consumer Christian. We have corporate churches with parking lots filled with Escalades and Hummers. Christians here in Dallas give money to their deity using chicken buckets for offering plates.

This is how I know God does not exist. If he did, then certainly Dallas would have been destroyed by a meteor by now. This place is a christian shit-hole.

Dboy

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There is only "Religious Wrong" because religion has never been right.
Posted by: humanity101 on Apr 16, 2007 8:18 PM   
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God is like G. Bushes infamous yellow cake. No one has ever seen it, heard it, smelled it, tasted it or proved its existence to beyond a reasonable doubt, yet it continues to exist in Dick Cheney's mind. Yeah! God is so real, so loving. And thus Dick Cheney went on to "rapture" over 3000 Americans and who knows how many Iraqis.

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religious extremism equals bad education
Posted by: siddesu on Apr 16, 2007 9:28 PM   
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as long as there are people who fall through the education system without picking up the basics, you have a potential pool of lumpens and extremists, whether in the US or elsewhere.

so, from that premise and what i see, i'd put forward the opinion that religious extremism in the US is hardly facing a risk of having no followers.

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But the end of the world is coming!!!
Posted by: kackermann on Apr 17, 2007 7:13 PM   
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That one always cracks me up. How many times have we heard specific, dire warnings of the end times? How many times has this fear meme been trumpeted throughout history?

By my score, it's something:

Normal, thinking people: 25,123
Religion and its sheep: 0

In what other profession could you be so spectacularly wrong and still be believed?

What the hell does that say about these people?

How about Foley wanting to smoke boys two at a time?
What about Taggart puffing pickles and while riding the snake?
At least he didn't steal scrap metal to get his drugs. He just stole from his flock of sheep. But he's cured now too. It only took a few weeks.

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