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If EFCA is defeated, it will carry little or no political cost, largely because America's corporatocracy has done a bang-up job of framing the debate. A coalition of big business groups conducted a wildly misleading poll, one that gave respondents the (false) idea that the bill will diminish rather than protect workers' rights -- specifically, their right to a fair vote about whether to unionize. They've taken that spin and synchronized it across the whole of the conservative communications infrastructure -- from business-funded think tanks to right-wing blogs, to the Wall Street Journal editorial page to lawmakers walking the halls of Congress.
But while the right's rhetoric has been in perfect lockstep, the bill's been pushed almost exclusively by organized labor, with too little outreach to the broader progressive movement and little in the way of a coordinated and effective message. As a result, the media's characterized it as a "union bill" -- which plays to the idea that it's driven by "special interests" -- and it's likely to die a quiet death with little notice among the general public.
Given the Democratic control of Congress and the debilitated state of working America, this is a tragedy. The need for reform is urgent. Union busting has reached a high art form in the United States. Companies no longer need thugs and gun-toting Pinkertons to keep workers from exercising their legal rights to organize; now they have high-priced, Armani-wearing lawyers, who simply brainwash workers into silence.
The tactics are as subtle as they are insidious. A study by Cornell University labor scholar Kate Bronfenbrenner found that: nine in 10 employers facing a union campaign force employees to attend closed-door meetings to hear anti-union propaganda; 80 percent train supervisors on how to attack unions and require them to deliver anti-union messages to workers they oversee; half of employers threaten to shut down the plant if workers organize; and three out of four hire outside consultants to run anti-union campaigns, "often based on mass psychology and distorting the law."
Increasingly, cunning forms of intimidation are often enough to produce a "no" vote. If organizers manage to get and win a vote among workers to unionize, management is able to dispute the outcome, and the case can drag on, often for years. While it's pending, pro-union workers lose their jobs: A study published this year (PDF) by economists John Schmitt and Ben Zipperer found that "almost one in five union organizers or activists can expect to be fired as a result of their activities in a union election campaign."
That's illegal -- workers are guaranteed the right to organize -- but since the Reagan administration gutted U.S. labor protections, companies that cross the line pay modest penalties that can be written off as part of the cost of remaining union-free.
The result has been predictable: Between 1975 and 2004, the rate of union workers in the private sector fell by almost two thirds (PDF). In 2000, only one in seven American employees were covered by a collective bargaining agreement, while two-thirds of all workers in the rest of world's highly advanced economies enjoyed that protection.
The decline in union membership can account, at least in part, for exploding income and wealth inequality. As economist Dean Baker writes in his new book, "The United States Since 1980," in the 20 years following the election of Ronald Reagan, "the share of national income that went to the richest 5 percent of families rose by more than one-third … [while] the share of income going to the poorest 20 percent of the population fell by more than 25 percent."
A stronger labor movement would go a long way towards reversing that trend. Unionized workers earn 15 percent more than their non-union counterparts, have more vacation time and are more likely to have employer-funded pensions and health insurance (PDF).
A strong labor movement isn't only vital for union members; labor's decline over the past three decades is at least partially to blame for American workers' loss of benefits and job security, for a dysfunctional immigration system, for the near absence of family and medical leave and for the easy passage of NAFTA-style corporate investment deals, despite Americans' widespread unhappiness with their outcomes.
Healthy unions lift up all working people; economists have long discussed the "union threat effect" -- that employers offer higher pay and better benefits to workers who don't belong to a union in order to keep them from joining one.
The Employee Free Choice Act (EFCA) is simple: It beefs up penalties for employers who violate workers' rights under the law, creates a mediation and arbitration system for disputes, and allows workers to form a union if a majority simply sign a card saying they want representation (a summary of the measure can be found here). This bill alone won't reverse the long decline of American labor -- union organizers say more is needed to create a truly level playing field -- but it would be a huge step in the right direction.
EFCA is an enormous threat to the leisure class -- in 2004, the share of national income going to workers was the lowest since they started tracking the data in 1929, while corporate profits were at an all-time high -- and the campaign they've mounted to kill the measure shows that, regardless of how much George W. Bush's presidency damaged the conservative movement, the Right still has significant advantages in steering the debate.
According to "RollCall," "Deep-pocketed corporate lobbying groups have joined together [to kill EFCA], today announcing the launch of a new coalition to coordinate their activities." The industry group, called the Coalition for a Democratic Workplace, "has the backing of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the National Association of Manufacturers and the National Federation of Independent Business, among others." The group sponsored a series of ads attacking lawmakers who supported the measure in key House districts and is expected to ratchet up the campaign in the Senate.
The coalition's spin makes no mention of beefing up penalties for violating workers' rights or creating new dispute-settlement procedures; instead, they seized on a compelling talking point tailored to America's political culture: That the "card-check" provision of the EFCA does away with the secret ballots that Americans have come to expect when casting their votes.
Big Business commissioned a Zogby poll that's dangerously close to the political "push-polls" of campaign infamy. The questions were remarkably dishonest, and the results were what the pollsters and their clients were looking for.
Please tell me whether you agree or disagree with the following statement: "Every worker should continue to have the right to a federally supervised secret ballot election when deciding whether to organize a union."Nine out of ten respondents agreed, including 87 percent of Democrats. That's to be expected; the strategy is to depict management's assault on the ability to organize as protecting "workers' rights." Seven out of ten respondents said they'd be less likely to vote for a member of Congress "who voted in favor of taking away a worker's right to have a federally supervised secret ballot election to decide whether to organize a union."
Armed with their push-poll, the right's noise machine has been typically disciplined; all corners of the conservative movement are on message: Big Labor wants to do away with secret ballots, and it's pulling the Democrats' strings to make it happen.
Perhaps EFCA will defy expectations and become law (you can help out here). If it doesn't, it will be, in part, because progressive institutions -- the blogosphere, labor, liberal Democrats -- haven't yet developed the kind of close coordination the Right can still muster. Missing is a nice, easy-to-understand alternative narrative -- something like: "End the Stalinist election process," or "the Soviets also had secret ballots" -- and the infrastructure needed to repeat that message over and over again.
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Posted by: thinkverybig on Apr 23, 2007 3:45 AM
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» RE: We need knew labor laws
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» RE: We need knew labor laws
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» You all have it wrong.
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» RE: You all have it wrong.
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» That's fine, but . . .
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» RE: We need knew labor laws
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Posted by: robchapman on Apr 23, 2007 3:55 AM
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Here in Central New York young retail workers report that the mandatory payment of Union Dues brings their earnings BELOW MINIMUM WAGE.
I am deeply aware of the dangers of whip-sawing workers and of the difficulties that stewards and orgaizers face in places where part of the work force is Union and part is not.
But unless Union organizers can show that Union membership has benefits, workers will not be able to square the substantial dues with their tight personal budgets.
Tangible benefits like job training and leads, portable insurance and retirement benefits and some sort of increased purchasing power would give workers incentive to join and lessen the need for mandatory membership.
Unions also need to show that Union workers are more productive and a good business investment. The Union's current reputation as the protector of dead wood in the work force must be changed. This change has to come from the Unions.
Without an active and worker oriented labor movement the status and well-being of American workers will continue to decline. The challenge to American Unions is in showing that they are still a pro-worker LABOR movement. The current wide-spread perception that they are the protectors of a privileged few and cash cows for their business managers is killing them.
The Union perception that the Union shop is the main issue at stake in their struggle is indicative of the excessive focus on the organization and hurts the workers.
It is not a reframing issue; it is a committment issue. Workers need to know that the Union has their interest at heart and that the Union will perform and not make excuses for its toothlessness.
Robert Chapman
Lansing, NY
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» RE: union shop a deal breaker
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» RE: union shop a deal breaker
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» RE: union shop a deal breaker
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» RE: union shop a deal breaker
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» Sure.
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» RE: Sure.
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» RE: Sure.
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» RE: Hell, I'd be happy if the people took control of ONE political party
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» Leader needed?
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» RE: union shop a deal breaker
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Posted by: HughScott on Apr 23, 2007 4:51 AM
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As a registered Republican since 1956, I always hated unions for the many reasons touted by big business. Then, in 1983, I went on strike against Continental Airlines after its tyrannical CEO, Frank Lorenzo, declared Chapter 11 bankruptcy to break what he decided were “onerous” labor contracts.
It occurred to me then that there wouldn’t have been a Chapter 11 filing had unions not been present at Continental. It was also obvious that Lorenzo would have lowered my wages anyway, probably below the level stipulated in the bankrupty papers. In otherwords, the only way I could defend against the company’s attack on my salary and working conditions was to join the CAL strike, which lasted 25 months.
Two things immediately happened to me when the work stoppage started. First, I lost my fear of being unemployed because I was unemployed, Second, despite the sudden financial hardship, I was a happier person because Continental no longer had me under its corporate control. Although I haven’t needed union representation since the CAL strike (I didn’t return to work after it ended), one thing I will never do is cross a picket line.
With the GOP representing big business almost exclusively, unions are needed now more than ever to protect and dignify working Americans, which is why President Bush will veto the proposed legislation.
Hugh E. Scott, editor of King-George.biz -- the only website with hardcopy proof of White House corruption.
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» RE: A union hater turned ardent supporter.
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» RE: A union hater turned ardent supporter.
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» You nailed it, Philip.
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» It's not about controlling corporations, Bob. Although it isn't much, unions give workers a...
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» thanks, Hugh
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» RE: It's not about controlling corporations, Bob. Although it isn't much, unions give workers a...
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» OK, Bob, you win.
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» Hugh, you're such a phony
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» RE: Hugh, you're such a phony
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» So true, Hugh. n/m
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» I hope the "phony"characterization of me is sarcasm. Philip. Otherwise, you had better...
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» Wrong, slydad. For 14 years, I owned and operated a greeting card design company...
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» Also, we were incorporated as "Scott Cards Inc." and I was the VP and Secretary Treasurer.
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» You ditto'd yourself?
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» Thank you for holding . . .
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» The thing that really bugs me about you though . . .
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» RE: A union hater turned ardent supporter.
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» You nailed it, starvinmarvy!
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» starvinmarvy is right
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» Ditto, Philip Newton.
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Posted by: BJT on Apr 23, 2007 5:02 AM
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No they haven't. What you're seeing is the owners of private property setting the rules as to what happens on their property. If you don't want the government telling you what you can and can't do inside your own house, you cannot begrudge companies like Wal-Mart for their policies on worker behavior.
Every worker signs a contract if they want to work there. If they found the terms of that contract disagreeable they are perfectly free to continue job seeking. Lord knows the government is burping up plenty of "unemployment" money to give lazy slobs with no job a bigger income than *me,* a guy who works for a living.
You are not witnessing anything that is not voluntary. If these big bad corporations were actually violating people's rights, you should be able to get the police involved.
Since no rights are being violated, but instead people just want more without taking any initiative to get it themselves, THEY are going to violate the rights of those generous enough to invest in creating jobs by FORCING them via government to do things they don't want to do.
There are *always* ways to peacefully coerce an unfair employer without resorting to government force. Running straight to legislation only betrays a complete lack of creativity or willpower.
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» You've got a lot of misconceptions about unions
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» RE: What would you do without propaganda?
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» RE: Hmm...
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» RE: Hmm...
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» No, his misconception's about property rights.
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» RE: No, his misconception's about property rights.
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» RE: Hmm...
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» RE: Hmm...
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» Workers can either hang together or separately. Without unions, the later would happen.
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» CORRECTION: I meant to write "latter." Sorry.
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Posted by: MAD on Apr 23, 2007 5:02 AM
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GASP!! An important bill for the working stiff is about to crash and burn . . . and our blessed Dems are going to watch as it happens??!! Hmmmmph - well quite frankly I don't believe it!! They would never let that happen. They would sooner call for the immediate impeachment of Bush than let him continue down his disastrous path *Sarcasm off*. America surely got what it paid for this time out. A bunch of limp dick, deadbeats who still know who their masters are - Big Biz.
Wake up America - time for a revolution . . . before it's too late!
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» knee-jerk
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Posted by: Conservasaurus on Apr 23, 2007 5:35 AM
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Unions of the past cared little about their members, it's all about the union..gang infested organizations no better than those companies they claim are taking advantage of their employees.
Times have changed - most companies do alot more for their employees then ever before. The need to unionize is long gone.. In those industries where unions have a strong presence they either have had to change their ways or force the companies out of business. Many companies today do more for their employees than a union can negotiate.
I personally was part of an effort to prevent a union from coming in to a company I worked at. The benefits under the union were far worse than that provided by the company.
We were not allowed to run an anti union campaign while the we within it's right to run pro union meetings. The company is at a disadvantage in this area.. not the reverse.
Our anti union eforts were lmited to education people on their current benefits from the company!
Last..union people get 15% more in pay??.. more vacation etc..and productivity is ..well..the same..so they dont provide more to the company, just to workers and protect them for no increase in productivity.. and we wonder why jobs are going overseas in record numbers!
As for the rich getting richer..take a chance, take a risk and maybe you can get richer, or poorer as the case may be!
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» RE: Unions are their own worst enemy.
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» RE: Unions are their own worst enemy.
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» RE: Unions are their own worst enemy.
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» At least unions did not commit treason against America unlike Corporate America and its shady deals.
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» WOULD AMERICAN WORKERS HAVE THE BENEFITS THEY DO TODAY IF UNIONS DIDN'T EXIST?
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» RE: WOULD AMERICAN WORKERS HAVE THE BENEFITS THEY DO TODAY IF UNIONS DIDN'T EXIST?
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» RE: WOULD AMERICAN WORKERS HAVE THE BENEFITS THEY DO TODAY IF UNIONS DIDN'T EXIST?
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» RE: WOULD AMERICAN WORKERS HAVE THE BENEFITS THEY DO TODAY IF UNIONS DIDN'T EXIST?
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» RE: WOULD AMERICAN WORKERS HAVE THE BENEFITS THEY DO TODAY IF UNIONS DIDN'T EXIST?
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» RE: I agree.
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» RE: I agree.
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» Conservasaurus:
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» RE: Conservasaurus:
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» Hmmm
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» Pure Corporate Propaganda....
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Posted by: Lincoln fan on Apr 23, 2007 5:49 AM
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The unions can't outbid the corporate establishment with contributions for political support. To regain strength the unions should force both parties to compete for their votes. It can be done with union tactics. Make demands of both parties and give an "or else". I urge union members to bring The Lincoln Initiative to the attention of the union leaders. It costs nothing.
Bob Reichenbach,
Director, The Lincoln Initiative.
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» unity 2008?
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» RE: Union's big mistake.
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» CatDad I disagree.
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» RE: Union history in the US?
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» RE: May I butt in?
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» Read "Labor's Untold Story"
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Posted by: Philip Newton on Apr 23, 2007 9:48 AM
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Then see if your views have changed.
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» RE: ead "Labor's Untold Story"
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Posted by: Trainer12 on Apr 23, 2007 10:47 AM
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» Amen!
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Posted by: wobblies on Apr 23, 2007 9:44 AM
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I began to read your piece for an update on labor law reform but found a screed on inaccurate comments on rights. In addition, you fail to articulate the purpose of election-waiver language or its downside. You also fail to articulate a list of additional needed reforms.
Since I began by saying that you wrote something that was inaccurate, I owe you an example: workers still have a legal right to organize and be represented by a union. It has just become a great deal harder after 50 years of corporate tactics: transfer of work abroad or to another state, the importation of legal and illegal labor to undermine bargaining power, as well as the other quasi-legal or illegal actions by businesses that you mention.
The most controversial section of the bill that you support is problematic and a product of sloth on the part of organizers. When organizers or fellow employees ask an employee to sign an authorization card, the person is confronted with the possibility of friction with that person that might transcend the issue. While fellow employees can't hire, fire, or promote you, they can make life miserable for you in oh so many ways. Frequently, employees sign a card just to satisfy the request of a fellow employee and with an understanding that one can still vote against representation during a fairly-run election. The legislation would be more beneficial if it required union participation in mandatory meetings about pending elections.
The other possible downside of recognizing a union based solely upon cards is that employers would have an ability to put up a front of cronies purporting to be an independent union free from the corruptions of bigness for the purpose of foisting a company union on members before they have an opportunity to look at other possibilities. Employers could also help facilitate a weak union to get cards before a more aggressive union can get their foot in the door. Again, an election is a check on that game-playing.
I know that your heart is in the right place: you want to help working people organize to promote their own self-interest and the general welfare of all working peoples. That is what unions do. I would never the less suggest that other reforms would be better pursued.
God Speed,
David
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Posted by: Philip Newton on Apr 23, 2007 9:50 AM
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Read "Labor's Untold Story."
Then organize.
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Posted by: BeeGee on Apr 23, 2007 10:12 AM
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The only way unions can regain power is -- as previous comments say -- to demonstrate their worth, and also for globalization to stop and for American manufacturing to come back.
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» RE: Can unions have power when workers are expendable?
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» RE: Can unions have power when workers are expendable?
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Posted by: jbwestwood on Apr 23, 2007 1:54 PM
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GeeBee is most on target. Problem is hugh. Unions are relics. Corporations must be stripped of falsely granted 14 Amendment personhood WTO and all so called "fair" trade agreements abrogated in favor or bi-lateral repalacements.
Geezer means apologetically regretful grandfather.
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Posted by: poppop_schell on Apr 23, 2007 2:37 PM
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The great majority of Americans NOW realize that the middle class is being squeezed because of the GREED of CEOs and Top management to maximize profits by outsourcing, so called "free trade" rather then fair trade and support of illegal alien amnesty. Put these factors together in a package in 2008 in a simple way and the DP will sweep the White House and gain greater majorities in the House and Senate. Add that to the failed Iraqi War, and gangbusters for especially Blue Dog DP candidates. The problem is that too many DP leadership like Kennedy want amnesty which hurts the American workforce wages. That is why we need Blue Dogs to run.
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» RE: Today's corporations want unionization...
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Posted by: ekipnrut on Apr 23, 2007 8:09 PM
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The article doesn't address the issue of RACISM, foreign or domestic (look at the election in France) and the implications for racially diverse cohorts developing globalized labor relations. As for the USA: From comment posted on WhitePrivilige.com (Dec. 2002) The labor unions to which the NAACP has tied their hopes have a long history of discrimination, in Detroit, where blacks and hispanics comprise about 80% of the population, the construction unions have a mere 3% black and hispanic membership. Unions have pressed for laws such as the Davis-Bacon Act, which were explicitly designed to keep unorganized Southern black laborers from benefitting from federal contracts.
But first let's jump back in time a bit...The name Samuel Gompers ring a Bell? Founder of the AFL (1886)
From: A Collective Past Within Us
by Paul Buhle [December 2001 Monthly Review...review of
:Hadassa Kosak, Cultures of Opposition: Jewish Immigrant Workers, New York City, 1881-1905 (SUNY Press, 2000)]
....The role of the Jewish skilled workers in all this is especially interesting precisely because it is so contradictory. The formation of the United Hebrew Trades in 1888 was resisted by Samuel Gompers (a Dutch-born Jew and pronounced racistwho led resistance to further immigration, including Jewish immigration) as inherently divisive. Within a decade, the same UHT became a stronghold of Gompers’ AFL conservatives against the Socialist Labor Party; in later decades it grew into the ferociously anti-Industrial Worker of the World, anticommunist, and quietly racist preserve of the Jewish labor aristocracy.
Most cogent and succinct remarks are made by Bill Fletcher Jr.
as are cited in:Labor Movements: Is There Hope?...(Monthly Review 57#2) by Fernando E. Gapasin and Michael D. Yates
Bill Fletcher Jr. eloquently points out the problem with this approach: [Thus, the US union movement is confounded by a problem; a problem that it cannot resolve inside of the Gompersian paradigm. If it acknowledges that global capital is involved in a war of annihilation against labor; if it acknowledges that US capital wants to eliminate unions from the US scene; if it acknowledges that it is increasingly difficult to advance the living standards of any sector of the economy without having an internationalist approach; if it acknowledges that the demographics of the US workforce are changing; if it acknowledges that US foreign policy is at the service of two different wings of the ruling circles, neither of which has an interest in the working class, and both of which have an interest in one or another form of global domination; if it acknowledges that US foreign policy is generating hatred of the US by people around the world, then US organized labor is compelled to rethink itself in the fundamentals.]
.....Implicit in Fletcher’s comments is that labor must move to the left if it is to survive..........It is our experience that while some union leaders consider themselves leftists, radicals, or even socialists, they also believe that raising socialist issues is wildly idealistic and impractical. They put off these questions to the indefinite future, believing that they need to win more power before they can be raised. Since they are losing power by the ton, the struggle for sheer organizational survival takes precedence........As long as unions play the game of operating solidly within capitalism, accepting its basic rules, unions as we have known them could be doomed. The crisis we face should lead us not to narrow our vision of what needs to be fought for, but to broaden it.... Hmm....sound familiar Dems/'Progressives'?
To paraphrase another Alternet poster...I really don't give a shit whether or not the employees of a cluster bomblet manufacturer have a good benefits package.
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» RE: Unions..mired in racism AND unwilling to think out of the box...
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» RE: Unions..mired in racism AND unwilling to think out of the box...READ WTF I POSTED...
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» RE: Unions..mired in racism AND unwilling to think out of the box...READ WTF I POSTED...
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» RE: Unions..mired in racism AND unwilling to think out of the box...READ WTF I POSTED...
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» Amen, Yellow. No excuse for anti-semitism.
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» RE: Amen, Yellow. No excuse for anti-semitism.
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» RE: Amen, Yellow. No excuse for anti-semitism.
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Posted by: yellow on Apr 23, 2007 9:35 PM
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Unions were powerful at one time because of (a) low unemployment and, (b) because in the 1950s and 1960s profit rates were so high and the economy expanded so quickly that a strike was often more costly than agreeing to the union demands. By the way, the decade of the 1950s was a time of give backs for a lot of union contract negotiations. There were two recessions in that decade which weakened the labor movement. The strike activity of the 1960s reflected efforts to recover lost income.
All in all Bush's efforts are consistent with the three decade long Republican effort to skew wealth to the very top and Union busting is part of that effort. More struggles are needed in times ahead.
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Please join me in creating the site of "WeMustChange.org"
email me at david@wemustchange.org
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» You all have it wrong.
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» That's fine, but . . .
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» RE: We need knew labor laws
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Posted by: robchapman on Apr 23, 2007 3:55 AM
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Here in Central New York young retail workers report that the mandatory payment of Union Dues brings their earnings BELOW MINIMUM WAGE.
I am deeply aware of the dangers of whip-sawing workers and of the difficulties that stewards and orgaizers face in places where part of the work force is Union and part is not.
But unless Union organizers can show that Union membership has benefits, workers will not be able to square the substantial dues with their tight personal budgets.
Tangible benefits like job training and leads, portable insurance and retirement benefits and some sort of increased purchasing power would give workers incentive to join and lessen the need for mandatory membership.
Unions also need to show that Union workers are more productive and a good business investment. The Union's current reputation as the protector of dead wood in the work force must be changed. This change has to come from the Unions.
Without an active and worker oriented labor movement the status and well-being of American workers will continue to decline. The challenge to American Unions is in showing that they are still a pro-worker LABOR movement. The current wide-spread perception that they are the protectors of a privileged few and cash cows for their business managers is killing them.
The Union perception that the Union shop is the main issue at stake in their struggle is indicative of the excessive focus on the organization and hurts the workers.
It is not a reframing issue; it is a committment issue. Workers need to know that the Union has their interest at heart and that the Union will perform and not make excuses for its toothlessness.
Robert Chapman
Lansing, NY
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» Sure.
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» RE: Sure.
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» RE: Hell, I'd be happy if the people took control of ONE political party
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Posted by: HughScott on Apr 23, 2007 4:51 AM
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As a registered Republican since 1956, I always hated unions for the many reasons touted by big business. Then, in 1983, I went on strike against Continental Airlines after its tyrannical CEO, Frank Lorenzo, declared Chapter 11 bankruptcy to break what he decided were “onerous” labor contracts.
It occurred to me then that there wouldn’t have been a Chapter 11 filing had unions not been present at Continental. It was also obvious that Lorenzo would have lowered my wages anyway, probably below the level stipulated in the bankrupty papers. In otherwords, the only way I could defend against the company’s attack on my salary and working conditions was to join the CAL strike, which lasted 25 months.
Two things immediately happened to me when the work stoppage started. First, I lost my fear of being unemployed because I was unemployed, Second, despite the sudden financial hardship, I was a happier person because Continental no longer had me under its corporate control. Although I haven’t needed union representation since the CAL strike (I didn’t return to work after it ended), one thing I will never do is cross a picket line.
With the GOP representing big business almost exclusively, unions are needed now more than ever to protect and dignify working Americans, which is why President Bush will veto the proposed legislation.
Hugh E. Scott, editor of King-George.biz -- the only website with hardcopy proof of White House corruption.
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» RE: A union hater turned ardent supporter.
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» You nailed it, Philip.
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» It's not about controlling corporations, Bob. Although it isn't much, unions give workers a...
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» thanks, Hugh
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» RE: It's not about controlling corporations, Bob. Although it isn't much, unions give workers a...
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» OK, Bob, you win.
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» Hugh, you're such a phony
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» So true, Hugh. n/m
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» I hope the "phony"characterization of me is sarcasm. Philip. Otherwise, you had better...
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» Wrong, slydad. For 14 years, I owned and operated a greeting card design company...
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» Also, we were incorporated as "Scott Cards Inc." and I was the VP and Secretary Treasurer.
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» You ditto'd yourself?
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» Thank you for holding . . .
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» The thing that really bugs me about you though . . .
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» RE: A union hater turned ardent supporter.
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» You nailed it, starvinmarvy!
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» starvinmarvy is right
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Posted by: BJT on Apr 23, 2007 5:02 AM
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No they haven't. What you're seeing is the owners of private property setting the rules as to what happens on their property. If you don't want the government telling you what you can and can't do inside your own house, you cannot begrudge companies like Wal-Mart for their policies on worker behavior.
Every worker signs a contract if they want to work there. If they found the terms of that contract disagreeable they are perfectly free to continue job seeking. Lord knows the government is burping up plenty of "unemployment" money to give lazy slobs with no job a bigger income than *me,* a guy who works for a living.
You are not witnessing anything that is not voluntary. If these big bad corporations were actually violating people's rights, you should be able to get the police involved.
Since no rights are being violated, but instead people just want more without taking any initiative to get it themselves, THEY are going to violate the rights of those generous enough to invest in creating jobs by FORCING them via government to do things they don't want to do.
There are *always* ways to peacefully coerce an unfair employer without resorting to government force. Running straight to legislation only betrays a complete lack of creativity or willpower.
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» No, his misconception's about property rights.
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» Workers can either hang together or separately. Without unions, the later would happen.
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» CORRECTION: I meant to write "latter." Sorry.
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Posted by: MAD on Apr 23, 2007 5:02 AM
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GASP!! An important bill for the working stiff is about to crash and burn . . . and our blessed Dems are going to watch as it happens??!! Hmmmmph - well quite frankly I don't believe it!! They would never let that happen. They would sooner call for the immediate impeachment of Bush than let him continue down his disastrous path *Sarcasm off*. America surely got what it paid for this time out. A bunch of limp dick, deadbeats who still know who their masters are - Big Biz.
Wake up America - time for a revolution . . . before it's too late!
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Posted by: Conservasaurus on Apr 23, 2007 5:35 AM
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Unions of the past cared little about their members, it's all about the union..gang infested organizations no better than those companies they claim are taking advantage of their employees.
Times have changed - most companies do alot more for their employees then ever before. The need to unionize is long gone.. In those industries where unions have a strong presence they either have had to change their ways or force the companies out of business. Many companies today do more for their employees than a union can negotiate.
I personally was part of an effort to prevent a union from coming in to a company I worked at. The benefits under the union were far worse than that provided by the company.
We were not allowed to run an anti union campaign while the we within it's right to run pro union meetings. The company is at a disadvantage in this area.. not the reverse.
Our anti union eforts were lmited to education people on their current benefits from the company!
Last..union people get 15% more in pay??.. more vacation etc..and productivity is ..well..the same..so they dont provide more to the company, just to workers and protect them for no increase in productivity.. and we wonder why jobs are going overseas in record numbers!
As for the rich getting richer..take a chance, take a risk and maybe you can get richer, or poorer as the case may be!
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» At least unions did not commit treason against America unlike Corporate America and its shady deals.
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» WOULD AMERICAN WORKERS HAVE THE BENEFITS THEY DO TODAY IF UNIONS DIDN'T EXIST?
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» Pure Corporate Propaganda....
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Posted by: Lincoln fan on Apr 23, 2007 5:49 AM
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The unions can't outbid the corporate establishment with contributions for political support. To regain strength the unions should force both parties to compete for their votes. It can be done with union tactics. Make demands of both parties and give an "or else". I urge union members to bring The Lincoln Initiative to the attention of the union leaders. It costs nothing.
Bob Reichenbach,
Director, The Lincoln Initiative.
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» unity 2008?
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» CatDad I disagree.
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» RE: Union history in the US?
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» Read "Labor's Untold Story"
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Then see if your views have changed.
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» RE: ead "Labor's Untold Story"
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Posted by: wobblies on Apr 23, 2007 9:44 AM
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I began to read your piece for an update on labor law reform but found a screed on inaccurate comments on rights. In addition, you fail to articulate the purpose of election-waiver language or its downside. You also fail to articulate a list of additional needed reforms.
Since I began by saying that you wrote something that was inaccurate, I owe you an example: workers still have a legal right to organize and be represented by a union. It has just become a great deal harder after 50 years of corporate tactics: transfer of work abroad or to another state, the importation of legal and illegal labor to undermine bargaining power, as well as the other quasi-legal or illegal actions by businesses that you mention.
The most controversial section of the bill that you support is problematic and a product of sloth on the part of organizers. When organizers or fellow employees ask an employee to sign an authorization card, the person is confronted with the possibility of friction with that person that might transcend the issue. While fellow employees can't hire, fire, or promote you, they can make life miserable for you in oh so many ways. Frequently, employees sign a card just to satisfy the request of a fellow employee and with an understanding that one can still vote against representation during a fairly-run election. The legislation would be more beneficial if it required union participation in mandatory meetings about pending elections.
The other possible downside of recognizing a union based solely upon cards is that employers would have an ability to put up a front of cronies purporting to be an independent union free from the corruptions of bigness for the purpose of foisting a company union on members before they have an opportunity to look at other possibilities. Employers could also help facilitate a weak union to get cards before a more aggressive union can get their foot in the door. Again, an election is a check on that game-playing.
I know that your heart is in the right place: you want to help working people organize to promote their own self-interest and the general welfare of all working peoples. That is what unions do. I would never the less suggest that other reforms would be better pursued.
God Speed,
David
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Posted by: Philip Newton on Apr 23, 2007 9:50 AM
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Read "Labor's Untold Story."
Then organize.
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Posted by: BeeGee on Apr 23, 2007 10:12 AM
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The only way unions can regain power is -- as previous comments say -- to demonstrate their worth, and also for globalization to stop and for American manufacturing to come back.
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Posted by: jbwestwood on Apr 23, 2007 1:54 PM
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GeeBee is most on target. Problem is hugh. Unions are relics. Corporations must be stripped of falsely granted 14 Amendment personhood WTO and all so called "fair" trade agreements abrogated in favor or bi-lateral repalacements.
Geezer means apologetically regretful grandfather.
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The great majority of Americans NOW realize that the middle class is being squeezed because of the GREED of CEOs and Top management to maximize profits by outsourcing, so called "free trade" rather then fair trade and support of illegal alien amnesty. Put these factors together in a package in 2008 in a simple way and the DP will sweep the White House and gain greater majorities in the House and Senate. Add that to the failed Iraqi War, and gangbusters for especially Blue Dog DP candidates. The problem is that too many DP leadership like Kennedy want amnesty which hurts the American workforce wages. That is why we need Blue Dogs to run.
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Posted by: ekipnrut on Apr 23, 2007 8:09 PM
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The article doesn't address the issue of RACISM, foreign or domestic (look at the election in France) and the implications for racially diverse cohorts developing globalized labor relations. As for the USA: From comment posted on WhitePrivilige.com (Dec. 2002) The labor unions to which the NAACP has tied their hopes have a long history of discrimination, in Detroit, where blacks and hispanics comprise about 80% of the population, the construction unions have a mere 3% black and hispanic membership. Unions have pressed for laws such as the Davis-Bacon Act, which were explicitly designed to keep unorganized Southern black laborers from benefitting from federal contracts.
But first let's jump back in time a bit...The name Samuel Gompers ring a Bell? Founder of the AFL (1886)
From: A Collective Past Within Us
by Paul Buhle [December 2001 Monthly Review...review of
:Hadassa Kosak, Cultures of Opposition: Jewish Immigrant Workers, New York City, 1881-1905 (SUNY Press, 2000)]
....The role of the Jewish skilled workers in all this is especially interesting precisely because it is so contradictory. The formation of the United Hebrew Trades in 1888 was resisted by Samuel Gompers (a Dutch-born Jew and pronounced racistwho led resistance to further immigration, including Jewish immigration) as inherently divisive. Within a decade, the same UHT became a stronghold of Gompers’ AFL conservatives against the Socialist Labor Party; in later decades it grew into the ferociously anti-Industrial Worker of the World, anticommunist, and quietly racist preserve of the Jewish labor aristocracy.
Most cogent and succinct remarks are made by Bill Fletcher Jr.
as are cited in:Labor Movements: Is There Hope?...(Monthly Review 57#2) by Fernando E. Gapasin and Michael D. Yates
Bill Fletcher Jr. eloquently points out the problem with this approach: [Thus, the US union movement is confounded by a problem; a problem that it cannot resolve inside of the Gompersian paradigm. If it acknowledges that global capital is involved in a war of annihilation against labor; if it acknowledges that US capital wants to eliminate unions from the US scene; if it acknowledges that it is increasingly difficult to advance the living standards of any sector of the economy without having an internationalist approach; if it acknowledges that the demographics of the US workforce are changing; if it acknowledges that US foreign policy is at the service of two different wings of the ruling circles, neither of which has an interest in the working class, and both of which have an interest in one or another form of global domination; if it acknowledges that US foreign policy is generating hatred of the US by people around the world, then US organized labor is compelled to rethink itself in the fundamentals.]
.....Implicit in Fletcher’s comments is that labor must move to the left if it is to survive..........It is our experience that while some union leaders consider themselves leftists, radicals, or even socialists, they also believe that raising socialist issues is wildly idealistic and impractical. They put off these questions to the indefinite future, believing that they need to win more power before they can be raised. Since they are losing power by the ton, the struggle for sheer organizational survival takes precedence........As long as unions play the game of operating solidly within capitalism, accepting its basic rules, unions as we have known them could be doomed. The crisis we face should lead us not to narrow our vision of what needs to be fought for, but to broaden it.... Hmm....sound familiar Dems/'Progressives'?
To paraphrase another Alternet poster...I really don't give a shit whether or not the employees of a cluster bomblet manufacturer have a good benefits package.
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» RE: Unions..mired in racism AND unwilling to think out of the box...READ WTF I POSTED...
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» RE: Unions..mired in racism AND unwilling to think out of the box...READ WTF I POSTED...
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» Amen, Yellow. No excuse for anti-semitism.
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Posted by: yellow on Apr 23, 2007 9:35 PM
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Unions were powerful at one time because of (a) low unemployment and, (b) because in the 1950s and 1960s profit rates were so high and the economy expanded so quickly that a strike was often more costly than agreeing to the union demands. By the way, the decade of the 1950s was a time of give backs for a lot of union contract negotiations. There were two recessions in that decade which weakened the labor movement. The strike activity of the 1960s reflected efforts to recover lost income.
All in all Bush's efforts are consistent with the three decade long Republican effort to skew wealth to the very top and Union busting is part of that effort. More struggles are needed in times ahead.
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