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Attack of the Mortgage Vultures

By Matthew Rothschild, The Progressive. Posted April 5, 2007.


Over the last decade, we have been witnessing some of the most brazen acts of mortgage entrapment ever to hit the American housing market.

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George Bush likes to boast about the high rates of homeownership. But today in America, millions of homeowners are at risk of seeing their prized possession taken right out from under them.

Over the last decade, we have been witnessing some of the most brazen acts of mortgage entrapment ever to hit the American housing market.

Subprime lenders have coaxed eager consumers to buy or refinance their homes often with no money down, and at seemingly low interest rates. But now millions of homeowners are paying way more than they can afford.

Their dream of homeownership has quickly turned into a nightmare of foreclosure.

And this nightmare is beginning to rattle the economy as a whole.

All the while, the government has stood idly by.

Buying or refinancing a home is not what it used to be. Traditionally, you’d get your mortgage through a savings and loan. The banker there would inspect your income and credit history to see if you could pay back the loan, and you needed to come up with 20 percent of the loan as a down payment. The loan would have a fixed interest rate over fifteen or thirty years. The homeowner would have to set aside money for property taxes and homeowners’ insurance. And the mortgage would stay in the originating bank.

Things are different now, thanks to the so-called subprime mortgage market, which accounts for almost one out of every four home loans currently being written. Today, mortgage brokers barrage consumers with offers of no-money-down loans, and last year, “more than 37 percent of subprime loans were made without verification of borrowers’ incomes,” The New York Times notes. Nor do such lenders typically require borrowers to escrow money for property taxes and homeowners’ insurance.

The terms of the loans are also much different. Adjustable rate mortgages have proliferated, with consumers getting seduced by offers of low interest rates the first two years of the loan only to be slapped with steeply escalating rates in subsequent years.

And the original lending institution now often sells the mortgage on the financial markets rather than hold onto it. When times get tough, faraway investors are even less open to renegotiating terms than local savings and loans were.

The boom in this industry has been extraordinary. “From 1994 to 2005, the subprime loan market grew from $35 billion to $665 billion,” the Center for Responsible Lending notes in a report entitled “Losing Ground: Foreclosures in the Subprime Market and Their Cost to Homeowners.”

But so has the bust. “We estimate that one-third of families who received a subprime loan in 2005 and 2006 will ultimately lose their homes,” the report predicts.

While opening up the possibility of homeownership to people with lesser means or spottier credit is something that progressives have advocated for a long time, the way the private sector has done this has been criminal. “Because the subprime market is designed to serve borrowers who have credit problems, one might expect the industry to offer subprime loan products that do not magnify the risk of loan failure,” the report says. “In fact, the opposite is true.”

First of all, adjustable rate mortgages are inherently duplicitous. They play upon the attractiveness of low interest rates up front, and they exploit ignorance of higher rates later on.

Second, many who get subprime loans could easily have received safer, less expensive mortgages in the prime market but were steered into the subprime loan by a mortgage broker.

Third, these brokers sometimes get a cash bonus from the lender for getting the consumer to agree to a higher interest rate than the lender was expecting. And the broker’s incentive is not to ascertain creditworthiness but to clinch the deal. The broker bears no financial cost if the consumer ends up foreclosing.

Fourth, subprime mortgages often limit repayment of the loan’s principal, so that for many years the homeowner is just paying back interest and not accumulating equity.


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"...paying more than they can afford..."
Posted by: Sojourner on Apr 5, 2007 1:06 AM   
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This article doesn't begin to scratch the surface of the problems and the promise of home ownership. There are more problems than subprime lending.

How much can anyone afford to lose? How much can the lenders of defaulting loans afford to lose? Yes, there is fraud in finance. It is not clear from the information presented here how much of the pain comes from fraud and how much from poor market timing.

If the argument is that citizens should be prevented from taking a gamble, that's going to be a hard sell. Yes, when it hits you, loss of a home is a big deal. But this article talks about a larger picture. But it's still not a big enough picture. The total losses so far in the housing market are peanuts compared to the losses during the stock market's recent "adjustment."

Home investment has been about as safe a gamble as is available for the last fifteen years. During the whole of that time there were some who were arguing that it was dangerous.

But since taxpayer money has been used to bail out hedge funds, Chrysler corporation and major banks and savings and loans, should it also be used to bail out home owners? Let's see some input on that rather than simplistic complaining about lending practices.

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» RE: "...paying more than they can afford..." Posted by: leedavis546@msn.com
Hey AlterNet!
Posted by: Tom Degan on Apr 5, 2007 2:42 AM   
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How come today's article about the connection between the Bushes and the bin Ladens is not comming up when clicked??? Is someone messing with this site?

Tom Degan

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» RE: Hey AlterNet! Posted by: Ian MacLeod
» RE: Hey AlterNet! Posted by: VZEQICVA
What this country needs...
Posted by: Ian MacLeod on Apr 5, 2007 3:32 AM   
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... is a "Consumer's Bill of Rights". Some of us simply aren't very sharp when it comes to finance. Some of the ways of calculating payments are so convoluted you need to be an accountant, and a specialized one at that, to figure it out.

Still, there should be laws that forbid usurious rates of repayment, convoluted methods of calculation that amount to trickery and so on.

Ian

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» RE: What this country needs... Posted by: VZEQICVA
» RE: What this country needs... Posted by: VZEQICVA
» RE: What this country needs... Posted by: freethink7
It's not just the loan...
Posted by: polyquat50 on Apr 5, 2007 4:28 AM   
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I don't know if you've noticed this in the US, but here in Australia, the house that is being offered has changed to. Gone is the little 2 bedroom cottage on a bare paddock, with bedrooms added as the kids came along, the gardens and paths added on long weekends, the light shades and appliances as finances permitted. In has come the 4 bedroom plus study and family room, complete with dishwasher, light fittings, garden paths, lawn and landscaping - all added into the mortgage. No wonder new home owners are going down the tube! Who needs to pay interest on the bloody lawn?

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» RE: It's not just the loan... Posted by: emgscot51
Has anyone else noticed that these new McMansions seem to be
Posted by: UnEasyOne on Apr 5, 2007 5:09 AM   
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made of cardboard and spit? Is it just me? Anybody else think they're gonna be falling down around the "homeowner's" ears long before the Mortgage is paid? Maybe somebody with some real knowledge on the subject can tell me why I'm wrong about that - I hope.

We also need a "Truth in lending" law that requires all significant terms of the mortgage be spelled out in plain English (or other appropriate language). How much are the payments? Will, or might they rise? When and by how much. Is there a prepayment penalty? How much? Is the rate fixed for the term? Better minds than me can, I'm sure, add to that list. Failure to adequately explain any provision in this easily understandable format should render that provision null and void.

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Usury...
Posted by: peachmcd on Apr 5, 2007 5:30 AM   
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...is a moral as well as a politico-economic issue. The Judeo-Christian scriptures are dead-set against high interest rates and turning families out of their homes for a profit. Don't know about the Koran (maybe a devout muslim out there can help us with that end?).

Given the scale of this burgeoning crisis, progressives would score tactically by offering an alternate 'moral issue' to the majority of Americans who are cash-strapped casualties of this class war, and devout people of faith.

We have an opportunity to steal megavotes from the GOP by changing the 'moral issues' subject to USURY/GREED, and having tons of scripture to attack the nasties with.

Peach McD in Durham NC

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» RE: Usury... Posted by: dh
» Thanks dh! More info...? Posted by: peachmcd
Mr. D.A.
Posted by: z on Apr 5, 2007 5:31 AM   
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America, the beautiful..... how long has it been since you could sing that song with conviction?
In addition to the mortgage vultures swindling home buyers, the payday loan bandits are a leading segment of new businesses licensees in my home state. I guess they're there to help the poor little guy when he gets in payment trouble with the home lender.
Have we no conscience? I think not. Any country which would pull on the jackboots and create rivers of blood while marching and fighting under a false banner cannot acclaim itself as the light of the world.

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Russian Roulette
Posted by: shangrilalad on Apr 5, 2007 5:49 AM   
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Like all ponzi schemes, the bursting housing bubble is going to hit the latest to join the hardest because when the easy credit bubble deflates they won’t be able sell or refinance their debt. Housing appreciation has lifted the fortunes of millions of Americans and seemed as though it would never end. But the Smart Money knew it would end and they hedged their bets by having lawmakers gut the old Bankruptcy Law in anticipation. The new Bankruptcy Law is specifically designed to trap the ignorant and unwary in perpetual poverty paying off their inescapable debt.

Predatory Big Business practices are as American as apple pie, with white collar criminals aided, abetted and protected by our lawmakers. That’s the Republican Law of the Jungle for the masses. But not themselves, understand. This is the Saving and Loan Swindle part II, and the Smart Money grubbers figures they can always count on lawmakers to pass another taxpayer bailout if worst comes to worst.

Sometimes it seems as if our ruling class is forcing the Golden Goose to play Russian Roulette.

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» Brillant!!! Posted by: bellove
» I agree, Brillant!!! Posted by: Prophit
» RE: I agree, Brillant!!! Posted by: oldwoman
This article is riddled with damn lies!!!!!!!
Posted by: Prophit on Apr 5, 2007 6:37 AM   
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Its no secret on this site how I feel about the banking, fed reserve, Wall street brokerage houses. But to condemn a whole industry of good people such as community based mortgage brokers is obscene. The mortgage brokers are the least offensive of this group and probably has done more to provide homeownership to local hard working people in this country than before they existed.

I can't believe what I am reading here.... what is the agenda? Are the powers that be "Rothschilds" now trying to get rid of another industry of jobs by doing away with the mortgage broker???? That is what this appears to be saying. There are so many lies here, I can only cover a few.... Remember, when they start slandering a whole industry of workers, you know there is an agenda...... its to do away with the competition with the banks, by small community brokers. I knew it was coming but I wasn't sure when and then the banks will control the lending industry. Its the old monopoly game. Antitrust laws should be used here. Its how the big airlines squeezed out the small airlines and then after the competition was gone, the big airlines raised their rates. Its the same here. They are lumping the mortgage broker in with the real powers who control the wealth and money. Do not think any of this is by accident.

The first lie was as follows:

"many who get subprime loans could easily have received safer, less expensive mortgages in the prime market but were steered into the subprime loan by a mortgage broker."

Notice, he doesn't say why this monster of a mortgage broker, all of whom according to the "Rothschild" (who should know about greed and profiteering), are crooks, (amazing a whole industry of our fellow American workers who are all crooks). YOU CAN'T GET A CHEAP PRIME LOAN FOR A SUBPRIME BORROWER and PRIME BORROWERS WILL WALK OUT THE DOOR IF YOU TRY TO PUT THEM INTO A SUBPRIME. They know the rates, they are on TV all the time..... give me a friggen break.... this guy talks as if the PRIME BORROWER, WHO HAS MONEY, GOOD CREDIT, CASH IN THE BANK, A DOWN PAYMENT, IS GOING TO BUY INTO A SUBPRIME LOAN BECAUSE HE IS SO STUPID. IF HE IS THAT STUPID, HOW DID HE MANAGE TO DO ALL OF THE ABOVE AND QUALIFY AS A PRIME BORROWER. WHAT A BUNCH OF HOGWASH.... THIS IS THE WORST SLANDER ON THIS SIGHT I HAVE EVER SEEN AND YOU ARE DOING THE BANKERS DIRTY WORK HERE.

The second lie.......

"The broker bears no financial cost if the consumer ends up foreclosing."

Actually, the truth is, if this mortgage broker were to operate the way this "ROTHSCHILD" guy says, and he has foreclosures from his submissions, he is blacklisted from selling to that investor again. He actually can lose his whole business so to say he is relieved of any responsibility is a lie. He pays dearly and goes on a list for all investors who then will not approve him to do business for their programs.

Heres another lie.............

" these brokers sometimes get a cash bonus from the lender for getting the consumer to agree to a higher interest rate than the lender was expecting."

SEE NEXT POST FOR REMAINDER OF COMMENTS

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» You are SO WRONG............. Posted by: Diecash1
try reading a better artical
Posted by: AlienSlave on Apr 5, 2007 6:51 AM   
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To get past a childish rant and focused attack of a narrow minded view on subprime rates read this article and get the whole picture and a fuller understanding.

http://atimes01.atimes.com/atimes/ Global_Economy/IC17Dj01.html

AlienSlave

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MAYBE IT'S TIME FOR A BAIL OUT
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Apr 5, 2007 7:19 AM   
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I don't mean free houses for everyone who overshot their ability to pay. But the government should be willing to invest something in its people to prevent a serious collapse that would not stop at housing. An ounce of prevention. A one shot deal, a rescue. Re- instate lending laws from the 50's and 60's. Remember when auto makers, airlines, the Savings and Loan folks among others got bailed out? This is not a gift. I see it as damage control. Thank,s ANNA

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» Alternative proposal Posted by: drmflorida
» RE: Alternative proposal Posted by: VZEQICVA
Numbers check
Posted by: chaoslegs on Apr 5, 2007 7:37 AM   
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I agree with many of the points the author made, but this made no sense to me.

“Foreclosure rates will increase significantly in many markets as housing appreciation slows or reverses,” the Center for Responsible Lending says. “As a result, we project that 2.2 million borrowers will lose their homes and up to $164 billion of wealth in the process.”

If 2.2 million borrowers lose their homes, and the amount of wealth hits that $164 billion mark, then the average home is losing almost $75,000 in equity. Now technically with rising house prices, I would have about that much equity (not counting 2nd mortgage, which I am ignoring on purpose), but I don't count it that way as it isn't realized.

As prices have already started to fall, my neighborhood while not horrible, has some issues like hookers and will be harder to sell then houses in areas without that problem which means that our prices will drop faster in a loose/flooded market where there are more properties for sale than buyers.

As the article is focusing on the subprime market, rising housing prices is the only way for these families to gain equity if they don't pay off principal in the first few years as the author indicated.

I bought my house in 2000 for $105,000 according to the county assessor it is currently valued at $182,000. I didn't have a down payment, used a mortgage broker that found deals that helped my qualify for the higher mortgage via neighborhood program that provided a $2,500 grant for closing costs and 20% mortgage credit certificate (when I itemize I deduct 80% of the interest and the other 20% is a tax credit). I do realize that I have a decent grasp of "how it works" and I do benefit from white privilege.

I think it is a complex issue, and maybe a way to address some of these issues and others is to have everyone kid take a mandatory life skills class in high school. Maybe a comprehensive year long program that includes information on child rearing, job interviews, personal and home financing (which includes information on pay day loans and check cashing places) and some basic home improvement and car mechanic skills.

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» Complex issue Posted by: MartianBachelor
» RE: Numbers check Posted by: VZEQICVA
Ursury
Posted by: DCBeltway on Apr 5, 2007 7:40 AM   
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you said...is a moral as well as a politico-economic issue. The Judeo-Christian scriptures are dead-set against high interest rates and turning families out of their homes for a profit. Don't know about the Koran (maybe a devout muslim out there can help us with that end?).

Islam is completly against Ursury/Interest period. Islamic Banking does not allow it. It is haram/forbidden to charge interest.
Judaism actually does allow for ursury as traditionally in Europe it was the Jews who ran the banks in medieval times and Christianity traditionally did not allow for ursury until recently.

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It's Not Just Mortgages
Posted by: NoPCZone on Apr 5, 2007 8:23 AM   
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There is enough debt and 'investment vehicles' based upon consumer, government and corporate debt (paper value- not hard assets) to make The Great Depression look like a walk in the park. What straw could break the camel's back and how close that is to happening is a complicated question, but we are undoubtedly close.

It gets uglier.

When The Great Depression hit America was a very different place with our nation producing much of what it needed to sustain life within our borders, and most of that was based around smaller, local or regional companies. A much larger percentage of our population lived on farms or in farming areas and could 'make-do' with barter, co-operatives and self-help. Many homes were designed to reman cool without Air Conditioning and were not reliant upon electricity or gas for heat. Our government was also not in significant debt. None of that is true now.

Use your imagination and consider the possibilities of a depression given the realities of today's America. Not only would today's poor and working poor find themselves in a crisis- tens of millions who think of themselves as middle class or even moderately wealthy could see it all come crashing down in very short order. A paper asset is nothing more than paper when the bank calls the loan- even if it has been feeding you well for years. An owned business cannot be sustained if you no longer have any customers.

It's later than you think.

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» Good point on vulnerability Posted by: kevred
» RE: Few Are Immune Posted by: NoPCZone
'Privatisation' of Bank of England in 1991 by ex-CIA operative - mirrored this trend in UK!
Posted by: Bulldog on Apr 5, 2007 8:23 AM   
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The situation is being exported globally.
British mortgage applicants ARE actively being encouraged by the estate agents to overestimate in their 'self assessment' for mortgage valuation.

When I first returned to Britain from exile in 1990, the price of a two-up, two-down suburban house in Brighton was £30,000. I know this because I was a boarder in a house being bought by a Black & Decker serviceman & his family in Mafeking road. That same house's valuation would now appear to be likely approaching £200,000! The average price of a standard 1 bedroom 3rd floor flat in Brighton is £100,000.
Why?

Deanne Julius a former CIA operative, of her own admittance was, just 2 days after New Labour's 1997 tactical landslide victory, handed the reigns of power by Gordon Brown for setting Interest rates at the Bank of England.
Then Home Secretary David Blunkett remarked at Julius' appointment:
"This defeated my plans to reduce interest rates and control unemployment".

Read the full original reproduced article by Nick Cohen of 'The Independent' reproduced From:

'CRUEL BRITANNIA' - ‘Reports on the SINISTER & the Preposterous’ HERE.


By
Bulldog and Nick Cool for Juntawatch.org

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It is the proper role of government to defend the consumer against just such predatory behavior
Posted by: Lincoln fan on Apr 5, 2007 9:52 AM   
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Click on Open Secrets. There you will find that in the 2004 election, the commercial banking industry invested almost $20 million in the Republican campaign. But wait! There's more! They also invested more than $11 million in the Democratic campaign. Will a government with both parties in debt to bankers defend the consumers rights? Or will they defend the bankers profits?

The banks are not the only industry that buys the allegiance of both parties. Check out the Insurance, Defense, and Pharmaceuticals. Neither party will back a candidate who is not acceptable to the corporate establishment. No matter which party wins the election, the outcome is the same: the establishment wins and the people lose. Our elections are practically inconsequential. We didn't vote the corporatocracy into power and we can't vote them out.

I don't recall the quote from Goethe exactly but the gist is "slaves won't rebel if they think that they're free". While you worry about elections being stolen; take a moment to worry about them being bought. The evidence of elections being stolen is circumstancial; the evidence of elections being bought is public knowledge. "There are none so blind, as they who will not see".
Bob Reichenbach,
Director, The Lincoln Initiative.

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Every American for him or her self.
Posted by: HughScott on Apr 5, 2007 10:29 AM   
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By now, it should be obvious that the federal government has failed us. It no longer protects, judicates or governs our nation fairly, no matter which party is in power.

The sad consequence of big businss permanently controlling Washington leaves me with just one conclusion. We can only solve individual problems by acting individually. Whining on AlterNet won't help. As a first step, use your credit cards WISELY.

Hugh E. Scott, editor of King-George.biz -- the only website with hardcopy proof of White House corruption.

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i don't get and never will
Posted by: lindalee on Apr 5, 2007 10:34 AM   
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These subprime mortages are just another way to screw the poor folks. I'm still trying to figure out why interest rates are higher if your credit score is low. This is illogical and is a recipe for failure. I hope these brokers all crash and burn.

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» RE: i don't get and never will Posted by: freethink7
» RE: i don't get and never will Posted by: onomatopoeical
Playing the Devil's Advocate: Part 1
Posted by: onomatopoeical on Apr 5, 2007 10:53 AM   
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Though I agree with the vast majority of what this article has to say I can't help but point out that this is just bad journalism. This article entirely fails to examine opposing arguments and alternative perspectives in anything other than a biased and pejorative manner. It presupposes that it is correct, that the reader agrees, and does not engage the reader in any kind of process that could even remotely be construed as "critical thinking." It is unfortunate that so many of the “lefts” thinkers rant and preach as opposed to respecting their ideological adversary and trying to actually have a thoughtful conversation and persuade them on logical grounds. This is little more than ideological propaganda, as is almost everything one sees on the news and reads in your average newspaper in the USA. The art of true journalism is almost dead in this country.

Yes... there are major problems with predatory lending. Obviously this has very negative consequences for our economy as a whole. More importantly though, it is leading to a lot of heartache for family's that either didn't understand what they were getting in to, were not financially responsible enough to make provisions to deal with just these circumstances, or were outright manipulated in to a loan under false pretense. Many of these borrowers should either never have been given loans at all, should have attended a seminar on how mortgages work and how to find the one that is right for them, or should have read the contract they were signing and/or hired a real-estate attorney for an hour to do it for them (if you are buying a home and can’t afford $250 for a lawyer’s time you shouldn’t be buying a home at all).

That said, the reality is that interest only loans and negative amortization loans are very VALUABLE financial tools. For those that understand how they work and have sufficient assets to hedge their bets and enough investment knowledge they can be used to INCREASE one's net worth more than a traditional loan. They empower the borrower not to needlessly sink assets in to a house where they then have no access to them without having to pay a bank to borrow back their own money. They keep assets from sitting stagnantly in your home where they are not appreciating (your home appreciates in value at the same rate regardless of the amount of equity you put in to it. Put otherwise, it is not your equity that is appreciating in value, it is the house). If a person invests the difference between what they would have paid for on their mortgage for a traditional loan and what they pay for an interest only loan, provided they get a greater return on their investment than it costs them to finance their debt (remember your interest costs are offset by the mortgage interest tax deduction, one of the largest tax deductions most family's have) then they actually MAKE money. This allows a person to retain a major tax deduction throughout life. Moreover, if a person does not build up greater equity in their home beyond the amount resulting from the actual appreciation on the property, when one sells their home and pockets the proceeds you only have to pay Uncle Sam taxes on the amount gained (which will offset by the more debt one still owes to the bank). Maintaining a high mortgage balance can also represent a form of SECURITY. It is a bargaining chip, provided you have a relationship with your lender who retains your loan and does not sell it off on the open market. Should you be facing foreclosure banks reposes homes with the least amount of debt remaining on them first. Funny isn’t it. The people who we are told are being most responsible by aggressively paying down their mortgage are actually more likely to suffer for it. This is because the bank turns around and auctions the home off seeking only to get enough to cover their financial interest, namely, the amount of money they lent you.

Continue to Part 2...

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It’s Evil. It’s Destructive. It Must Be Destroyed: It’s “The Creature From Jekyll Island”
Posted by: freethink7 on Apr 5, 2007 10:55 AM   
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“The Creature From Jekyll Island” is a book that is stranger than science fiction. However, it’s not fiction, it’s true a true story about the banking system in the U.S. This book explains that a cartel of private international bankers got together on Jekyll Island (Georgia) in 1913 and created the monstrous, abominable, out of control, illegal act called The Federal Reserve. Both Democrats and Republicans overwhelmingly passed the Federal Reserve Act in 1913.

Consider the name: ‘Federal Reserve.’ The name implies this is a “federal government” agency, but there’s nothing federal about it. The Federal Reserve is not even associated with the American government and is privately owned by a cartel of international bankers. Furthermore, there is not a ‘reserve’ as is implied in the name. These private international bankers run the American banking system, home mortgage business, Wall Street, politics, wars (funding both sides), etc.

The Federal Reserve Act is the largest fraud ever perpetrated on the American people. The cartel of international bankers responsible for The Federal Reserve Act is in bed with all our politicians (both Dems + Rethugs), and dictate policies that are beneficial + consistent with their economic and social agendas. Their plans for this country are ugly and nefarious: What they have in mind economically is a feudal system and destroying the middle class. (The international bankers run our banking system = they govern this country). The international bankers have exacted hegemony + power over our country - literally.

Please read this book if you have even a modicum of concern about taking our country back from this cartel of powerful private international bankers (who also run the mortgage industry). Right now, they have all the power over our country. We must repeal the Federal Reserve Act as it is fraudulent and illegal. The unethical Federal Reserve Act usurps economic + social freedoms of Americans.

Please read this book for more information:
“The Creature From Jekyll Island”
by: G. Edward Griffin
(a book about economics, socioeconomics, politics + so much more)

Please watch this video (it further clarifies The Federal Reserve Act + how it usurps American freedoms):
America: Freedom to Fascism

google: Federal Reserve Act

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Playing the Devil's Advocate: Part 2
Posted by: onomatopoeical on Apr 5, 2007 10:55 AM   
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If you owe the bank a lot they will have a very hard time recovering that at auction and have a greater incentive to make an agreement with you so you will continue to make payments than they do to reposes and take a greater loss.

It is a good thing that these financial instruments are available to consumers. They are appropriate for a certain segment of the market and should remain to be so. Debt is not a bad thing. It is a tool for those that understand how to use it responsibly. The real problem here is not the loans that are available to consumers; it is the fact that our society invests so little energy in educating its citizens in responsible financial behavior and cultivates a culture of greed that naturally lends itself to taking advantage of people, making shortsighted decisions, and perpetuating generation poverty and generally irresponsible financial behavior.

By the way… I am not a robber baron republican real-estate mogul. I am a 25 year old social progressive that doesn’t even own a home because I can’t afford one… and I’m smart enough to know that.

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From the Foreclosure Capital of America
Posted by: DrSuess on Apr 5, 2007 11:27 AM   
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I live in Indianapolis, and we have for years fought with Ohio for the dubious award of “foreclosure capital of America”. I can tell you from direct experience what it is like to live in such a situation. I recently bought a house for $13,500- less than the price of most cars. It was a respectable, 2 bedroom house with a yard around it. The house was in move in condition, and I am now making cosmetic repairs for my tenants.
What the article doesn’t pick up is the anguish that I hear from my middle class friends- as they talk about how they cannot sell their houses out in the posh suburbs without taking ten thousand dollars to the closing table to “sell” the house. I have heard of people who’s house values have dropped from $126,000 to $85,000 in nice middle class neighborhoods. Vacant houses, the bane of the “poor” inner cities are now appearing with great frequency in neighborhoods that were built three or four years ago. I could go on and spell out the anguish of middle class people when they find they have been transported into rental neighborhoods without moving one inch, as landlords buy up the houses asround them that went into foreclosure.
However, rather than pulling out example after example of shocked middle class people who are paying their mortgage and living by the rules- while their neighbors go under- and destroy the home values of the people who live exemplary lives- I will summarize my arguments and say
"If the foreclosure rate in America ever approaches the 1 in 100 house rate that we have here in Indianapolis- America will have a revolution". No politician will survive if the foreclosure rates in California even become ½ of what they are here in the heartland.

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The Bigger Issue is Housing Prices
Posted by: rfrancis@godisdead.com on Apr 5, 2007 12:16 PM   
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Housing prices have skyrocketed which is why so many people are having trouble paying their mortgages.

People used to buy a house that was 3 x Annual Income.

Now the statistics show that it is over 4 x Annual Income.

The big lie is that housing prices have risen because people are demanding granite counter tops and other luxuries and they don't make any more land, but the truth is, adjusted for inflation, your dollar buys less of a house now than it did 10, 20, 30 years ago.

The housing industry is infected with the same disease that has infected the health care industry. What was once seen as a necessary part of living, housing and medical care, is now seen as a means, by companies and home owners, to make as much money as they possibly can.

Just like health care needs to be revised into a single payer system, cutting out the insurance companies, and covering all Americans, like in other westernized nations, housing needs to be revised so we can provide cheap, efficient, durable housing to all Americans.

A whole separate article needs to be written on revising the building codes currently in place. Energy consumption is a major problem the nation is currently facing and everyone knows it.

New laws need to be enacted requiring new housing construction to be under a Zero Energy Home development code to help our nation as a whole reduce our energy consumption. Our government is already so far up our asses on what we can and cannot do with our houses, the least they can do is enact regulations that would make a meaningful difference in energy consumption.

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Bigness
Posted by: luckypuck on Apr 5, 2007 12:34 PM   
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"'People are adults and made choices in their lives because they wanted to own a home of their own,' Countrywide Financial CEO Angelo Mozilo told Bloomberg news service on March 22. 'America’s great because people can make those decisions for themselves.' Countrywide Financial is the nation’s biggest mortgage lender."

America has been great because it protected the good, but naive citizens from predatory scammers. We have laws that put scammers in jail. The ones who come to your door to redo your driveway; the ones who ask for a down payment for a vacuum cleaner, but you never get the cleaner; and loan sharks who practice what used to be called usury, but now is business as usual, if you're among the well-connected.

You know it, those little scam artists don't have a big Washington lobby. The big scam artists who do have a lobby, never go to jail unless their scam is so obvious and egregious that not even the corrupt politicians can overlook it (think Enron, etc.) The big scammers now own and operate the government. If it's profitable, cheating is a legal and ethical practice. Soon, lenders will be advertising, "Only the best and cheapest predatory loans available. Because we care!"

Is this a good time to reopen the debate about "big government?" Did you ever notice who it is that assails the idea of big government? It's big business and their lapdogs. Thomas Paine said, "That government is best which governs least," and it's correct as long as you add, "so long as it can deliver all the protections governments must and ought to provide to its citizens." Such as protection from the excesses of big foreign countries, big coalitions of little foreign countries, big business, big markets, big oil, big military, and, last but not least, our own big government itself.

In Tom Paine's day, small government could work because the country was small, the population was small. However, as soon as bigger problems came up our "small government" grew and HAD to grow proportionally, because a small government can't implement a big solution. Small government renders itself impotent to protect individual citizens' civil, social and political rights. Our big government, at the moment, is impotent to secure our borders, regulate the excesses of big business, oversee and control its own internal threats to our system of checks and balances and many, many more. The world is just too complex for a small government.

The irony can't possibly escape any of us, that the ones who regularly decry big government supported the largest increase in its size, Homeland Security. Further, the irony can't possibly escape any of us, that the increase was supposedly to increase our protection, but has resulted in the conscious, but unconscionable trashing of our constitutionally protected rights and actually results in the diminishment of our protections. I'm just afraid that our big government simply doesn't have a big enough will to shed its blindness to its own corruption. Maybe, they're all just too comfortable in that corruption and have lost the ability to find the big solutions. I'm depressed and cynical at the same time. It hurts.

Impeach Bush/Cheney NOW

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Dumb Americans With Delusions Of Entitlement Not The Problem?
Posted by: MAD on Apr 5, 2007 1:05 PM   
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You just couldn't stand it, could you? The thought of your neighbor inhabiting a $400K home while you languish in your $250K shack with its dumpy 2 car garage!! It wasn't enough to get a new plasma, was it? You needed an entirely new living room in which to enjoy it, and you wanted surround sound, dammit! After all, what good is living if you can't impress your shallow, superficial and material-driven friends with expensive cars, clothes and homes that you could never normally afford.

I mean honestly, this must be the first time that Americans have been faced with "too good to be true" deals, schemes and paths to enrichment, right? We've never been mislead by small print or felt cheated by big corporations before, have we? Our government would never let banks get the best of us! Heavens no! What kind of irresponsible and morally reprehensible lender would allow you to slink into a McMansion on a janitor's salary and without even showing a pay stub? Not any banker I know!

I don't know about you, but the puddles of saliva forming under the mouths of lenders and agents would have tipped me off on signing day. Maybe the hard sell on the ARM should have given you a clue. "Hey fuggedabout it, by the time these ARMs reset, you'll have built up such equity that you'll easily be able to ReFi". Sounds great!! Except for the fact that your poor ass ccouldn't put anything down and will be making payments in excess of $2K/month for an eternity, it sounds nifty. The point is this: grow the fuck up and stop trying to live beyond your means. Everyone screams about big government interfering in their lives, yet those who got duped are the first to demand government oversight. How about some goddamn personal cerebral oversight for once? How many times did mommy and daddy tell you that if something sounds too good to be true . . . .

There will always be scams. And we know America has no shortage of greedy, short-sighted dipshits who will fall for it. Consider this the equivalent of economic darwinism. Those who were too stupid and greedy to live within their means will be brought back down to earth along with the predatory lenders who thought they struck paydirt with Al the barber, Mike the Janitor and Suzy the 7Eleven clerk.

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