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America Gone Wrong: A Slashed Safety Net Turns Libraries into Homeless Shelters
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Margi is not so mellow. The "fucking Jews" have been at it again she tells a staff member who asks her for the umpteenth time to settle down and stop talking that way. "Communist!" she hisses and storms off, muttering that she will "sue the boss." Margi is at least 70 and her behavior shows obvious signs of dementia. The staff's efforts to find out her background are met with angry diatribes and insults. She clutches a book on German grammar and another on submarines that she reads upside down to "make things right."
Mick is having a bad day, too. He hasn't misbehaved but sits and stares, glassy-eyed. This is usually the prelude to a seizure. His seizures are easier to deal with than Bob's, for instance, because he usually has them while seated and so rarely hits his head and bleeds, nor does he ever soil his pants. Bob tends to pace restlessly all day and is often on the move when, without warning, his seizures strike. The last time he went down, he cut his head. The staff has learned to turn him over quickly after he hits the floor , so that his urine does not stain the carpet.
John is trying hard not to be noticed. He has been in trouble lately for the scabs and raw, wet spots that are spreading across his hands and face. Staff members have wondered aloud if he is contagious and asked him to get himself checked-out, but he refuses treatment. He knows he is still being tracked, thanks to the implants the nurse slipped under his skin the last time he surrendered to the clinic and its prescriptions. There are frequencies we don't hear -- but he does. Thin whistles and a subtle beeping indicate he is being followed, his eye movements tracked and recorded. He claims he falls asleep in his chair by the stairway because "the little ones" poke him in the legs with sharp objects that inject sleep-inducing potions.
Franklin sits quietly by the fireplace and reads a magazine about celebrities. He is fastidiously dressed and might be mistaken for a businessman or a professional. His demeanor is confident and normal. If you watch him closely, though, you will see him slowly slip his hand into the pocket of his sports jacket and furtively pull out a long, shiny carpenter's nail. With it, he carefully pokes out the eyes of the celebs in any photo. Then the nail is returned to his pocket, a faint smirk crossing his face as he turns the page to pursue his next photo victim.
Scenes from a psych ward? Not at all. Welcome to the Salt Lake City Public Library. Like every urban library in the nation, the City Library, as it is called, is a de facto daytime shelter for the city's "homeless."
Where the Outcasts Are Inside
In bad weather -- hot, cold, or wet -- most of the homeless have nowhere to go but public places. The local shelters push them out onto the streets at six in the morning and, even when the weather is good, they are already lining up by nine, when the library opens, because they want to sit down and recover from the chilly dawn or use the restrooms. Fast-food restaurants, hotel lobbies, office foyers, shopping malls, and other privately owned businesses and properties do not tolerate their presence for long. Public libraries, on the other hand, are open and accessible, tolerant, even inviting and entertaining places for them to seek refuge from a world that will not abide their often disheveled and odorous presentation, their odd and sometimes obnoxious behaviors, and the awkward challenges they present to those who encounter them.
Although the public may not have caught on, ask any urban library administrator in the nation where the chronically homeless go during the day and he or she will tell you about the struggles of America's public librarians to cope with their unwanted and unappreciated role as the daytime guardians of the down and out. In our public libraries, the outcasts are inside.
"Homeless" is a misleading term. We have homeless people in America today, in part, because we have no living wage, no universal healthcare, disintegrating communities, and a large population of working poor who can end up on the street if they lose one of their part-time jobs, experience an illness or an accident, or have a domestic crisis. For them, homelessness is generally temporary, probably a once-in-a-lifetime experience. There is little to distinguish such people from the rest of us and we usually do not notice their presence among us. Programs to help people in such circumstances may be inadequate -- and it is a shame they are needed at all -- but they usually work. For the people we point to on the street or in public places and normally identify as homeless, however, homelessness is a way of life and our best attempts to rescue them continually fail.
We commonly refer to them as "street people." We see them sleeping in parks, huddled over grates on sidewalks, resting or sleeping on subway cars, passed out in doorways, or panhandling with crude cardboard signs. Social workers refer to them as the "chronically homeless." Although they make up only about 10% of the total number of people who experience homelessness in a given year, they soak up more than half the dollars we spend on programs to address homelessness. There are at least 200,000 people across the nation living more or less permanently on the street, enough to fill a thousand public libraries every day.
Drunk as a Skunk
The term "chronically homeless" is also inadequate when it comes to describing these individuals -- it only tells you that their homeless state is frequent. It neither indicates why they are homeless and stay that way, nor says anything about their most salient characteristic: Most of them are mentally ill. The published data on how many homeless are considered mentally ill by those who study them varies widely from 10% to 70%, depending on whether all the homeless, or just the chronically homeless, are included (and depending on how you define illness or disability). How, for example, do you categorize alcoholics and drug addicts?
When Crash is sober, for instance, he reasons like you or me, converses normally, and has a good sense of humor. Unfortunately, he is rarely sober. In one of his better moments, he petitioned me to let him stay in the library even though he was caught drinking -- an automatic six-month suspension. "You know I'm a good guy and I don't bring that stuff into the library," he pleads. "C'mon, give me another chance."
Crash is sitting in his wheelchair in the foyer outside my office where I serve as the library's assistant director. It's hard for me to address Crash without staring at the massive scar on his face -- a deep crease that neatly divides it down the middle from scalp to chin. Unfortunately, his nose is also divided and the sides do not match up, giving him an asymmetrical appearance like a Picasso painting on wheels.
"Alcoholics pass out in the library's chairs," I explain, "and if we can't wake you up we have to call the paramedics. If you piss your pants or puke, the custodians have to clean that up and they hate that. You guys fall down and knock things over. You're unpredictable when you drink. You disrupt others. Public intoxication is against the law..."
"Okay, okay," he interrupts me, "I get it. Hey, just thought I'd try and get back in is all -- no hard feelings, man."
No hard feelings I assure him. He smiles and we shake hands. I wish I could cut him some slack -- after dozens of confrontations with angry and threatening drunks, I appreciate a cheerful drinker like Crash -- but I can't afford to establish a precedent I can't keep. The rule is clear: no drinking in the library and no exceptions. As he waits for the elevator doors to open and take him down, I venture a question I've been holding onto for awhile. "I know it's none of my business, but how did you get that scar?"
"Car accident," he replies, "same one as put me in this wheelchair. That's why they call me Crash."
"Were you drinking?" I ask.
He shakes his head and sighs. "Drunk as a skunk ... drunk as a skunk." As the elevator descends I think about just how hard it must be to be both wheelchair-bound and homeless. I wonder about the commonly held notion that alcoholics must "hit bottom" before they can rebound. Is there such a thing as bottom for guys like Crash? Is he any more capable of controlling his urge to drink than Ophelia can control the voices in her head?
Our condemnation of transient-style alcoholism is both hypocritical and snobbish. If you are unhappy and caught without a prescription in America, you self-medicate. Depressed lawyers do it with fine scotch. An unemployed trucker might turn to beer or meth. Anxiety-ridden teachers or waitresses might smoke pot or order just one more margarita. Indigent people who want relief from their demons drink whatever is available and affordable or swallow whatever pills come their way. Dr. Tichenor's mouthwash is a popular choice for street alcoholics and "Doc Tich," as the brand is commonly known, doesn't offer a pinot noir.
What Library School Didn't Cover
The strong odor of mouthwash on the breath of transient alcoholics who shelter with us is often masked by the overwhelming odor of old sweat, urine-stained pants, and the bad-dairy smell that unwashed bodies and clothes give off. It can take your breath away long before you can smell theirs.
The library wrestles with where to draw the line on odor. The law is unclear. An aggressive patron in New Jersey successfully sued a public library for banning him because of his body odor. That decision has had a chilling effect on public libraries ever since. When library users complain about the odor of transients, librarians usually respond that there isn't much they can do about it. Lately, libraries are learning to write policies on odor that are more specific and so can be defended in court, but such rules are still hard to enforce because smell is such a subjective thing -- and humiliating someone by telling him he stinks is an awkward experience that librarians prefer to avoid. None of this was covered in library school.
It's a chicken-or-egg world for the mentally-ill homeless. Are they on the street because they are immobilized by severe depression or is deep depression the consequence of being on the street? Any tendency towards a psychological problem is aggravated and magnified by the constant stress, social isolation, loss of self-esteem, despair, and relentless boredom of street life. Imagine the degradation of waiting an hour in the cold rain to get into a soup kitchen for a meal; the hassle of hunting endlessly for an unpoliced spot to sleep; the constant fear of being robbed or attacked by other street people; or the indignity of defecating in a vacant lot. It's a combination that would probably drive a mentally healthy person to psychosis and substance abuse. Street people, who suffer serious psychological disorders, are often substance abusers, too, and the drug that a psychotic person prefers, often matches the psychosis. I have learned, for example, that bi-polar users prefer cocaine when in their manic phases and schizophrenics gravitate, naturally enough, to hallucinogens.
Alcohol and drugs mix with depression, schizophrenia, bi-polar disorder, and paranoia in complex ways, so it is hard to pull any given disorder apart and understand just who this person in front of you, cursing or pleading or thrashing on the floor, may be. Public librarians, of course, are not trained to do this. We deal with behaviors that are symptomatic without understanding why someone is suffering or what we can do about it. And even if we did understand and had been trained for such situations, healing the homeless is not our mission. Taxpayers expect us to provide library services and leave the homeless to social workers. They give us resources only for one mission, not two.
What about those social workers then? They turn out to be too few, under-funded, over-worked, and overwhelmed. My initial unsuccessful attempts to get the social workers who operate the "homeless van" to stop in and assess a "regular" homeless patron who, we suspected, had suffered a stroke, reminded me that they had more pressing priorities. In the dead of winter, they struggle to get people sleeping in alleys or passed out on sidewalks indoors so they don't freeze to death. Theirs is an everyday "life or death" race. If a homeless guy is inside the library, then, "Hey, mission accomplished."
Navigating the Archipelago of Despair
A workshop I attended on treating Native Americans for alcoholism compellingly described how incorporating sweat lodges, healing ceremonies, and other elements from Native American culture into established treatment methods can improve their effectiveness for Native American patients. Of course, the social worker added, it's essential to provide a halfway-house option between rehab and release and that remains a huge problem. Typically, he told us, his clients wait three to six months to get into a halfway-house after rehab.
"And where do they go while they wait?" I asked, naively enough.
He shrugged and sighed. "Back with their drinking buddies in the park, under the bridge, wherever."
The inadequacy of existing resources and the absurdity of the conditions they endure are just part of the landscape, a given for social workers. Public librarians can cooperate with (and learn from) them, but we understand that they are overwhelmed and often unavailable. So, like it or not, we are ushered into the ranks of auxiliary social workers with no resources whatsoever.
Local hospitals are also uncertain allies. They have little room for the indigent mentally ill for whose treatment they often can't get reimbursed. So they deal with the crisis at hand, fork over some pills, and send the hopeless homeless on their way.
A manager at a shelter-clinic told me that he keeps a stash of petty cash handy because sometimes a taxi arrives at his door from one of the city's hospitals, carrying an incoherent patient without ID or any possessions other than the hospital gown he or she is wearing. When that happens, clinic workers are instructed to rush for the cab before it can unload its passenger and pay the driver to return to the hospital, puzzled cargo still in hand.
Throughout the fragmented system of healthcare for homeless people, from rehab to hospitals to jails, there are few ground rules or protocols for discharging the mentally ill and next to no communication between healthcare providers, police, social workers, and shelter managers in this archipelago of despair. Public librarians are out of the loop altogether; our role in providing daytime shelter for the homeless is ignored. When, in an attempt to build my own useful network, I attended conferences on homeless issues, I was always met with puzzlement and the question: "What are you doing here?"
"Where do you think they go during the day?" I would invariably answer.
"Oh, yeah, I guess that's right -- you deal with them, too," would be the invariable response, always offered as if that never occurred to them before.
Paramedics are caught in the middle of this dark carnival of confusion and neglect. In the winter, when the transient population of the library increases dramatically, we call them almost every day. Once, when I apologized to a paramedic for calling twice, he responded, "Hey, no need to explain or apologize." He swept his arm towards the other paramedics, surrounding a portable gurney on which they would soon carry a disoriented old man complaining of dizziness to the emergency room. "Look at us," he said, "we're the mobile homeless clinic. This is what we do. All day long, day after day, and mostly for the same people over and over."
Sanitizing Gels and Latex Gloves: Plying the Librarian's Trade
The cost of this mad system is staggering. Cities that have tracked chronically homeless people for the police, jail, clinic, paramedic, emergency room, and other hospital services they require, estimate that a typical transient can cost taxpayers between $20,000 and $150,000 a year. You could not design a more expensive, wasteful, or ineffective way to provide healthcare to individuals who live on the street than by having librarians like me dispense it through paramedics and emergency rooms. For one thing, fragmented, episodic care consistently fails, no matter how many times delivered. It is not only immoral to ignore people who are suffering illness in our midst, it's downright stupid public policy. We do not spend too little on the problems of the mentally disabled homeless, as is often assumed, instead we spend extravagantly but foolishly.
And the costs could grow far beyond the measure of money. If an epidemic of deadly flu were to strike, if an easily communicable strain of tuberculosis or some other devastating disease emerges, paramedics will be overwhelmed by their homeless clients who are at high risk for such illnesses. People who drink until they pass out tend to aspirate and choke, and people who sleep outdoors at night breathe cold, damp air. People who sleep in crowded shelters breathe each other's air.
Serious respiratory problems among the chronically homeless in a shelter are as common as beer guts at a racetrack. If an epidemic strikes, the susceptibility of the homeless will translate into an increased risk of exposure for the rest of us and, eerily enough, our public libraries could become Ground Zeroes for the spread of killer flu. Librarians are reluctant to make plans for handling such scenarios because we do not want to convey the message that America's libraries are anything but the safe and welcoming environments they remain today.
But here's the thing: It's not just about libraries. The chronically homeless share bus stops, subways, park benches, handrails, restrooms, drinking fountains, and fast-food booths with us or with others we encounter daily, who also share the air we breathe and the surfaces we touch. When sick or drunk, they vomit in public restrooms (if we are lucky). Having a population that is at once vulnerable to disease and able to spread microbes widely to others is simply foolish -- and unnecessary -- public policy, but in the library we focus on more immediate risks. We offer our staff hepatitis vaccinations and free tuberculosis checks. We place sanitizing gels and latex gloves at every public desk. Who would guess that working in a library could be a hazardous occupation?
In Place of Snake-Pit Hospitals, Snake-pit Jails
Ultimately, the indigent mentally ill are criminalized. If their presence in our libraries is a common and growing problem that we librarians would like the rest of society to be aware of, acknowledge, and commit themselves to helping us solve, here is a secret we would like to keep to ourselves: We are complicit. No matter how conscientiously and compassionately we try to treat our mentally disturbed users -- and at the Salt Lake City Public Library we work very hard to be fair, helpful, and tolerant -- librarians often have no good choices and, in the end, we just call the cops.
Take, for example, the case of a young man who entered the library fuming and spitting racial and ethnic slurs. He loudly asked some Hispanic teenagers, who were doing their homework, when they crossed the border and they reported his rude behavior. When a security guard approached, the young man started yelling obscenities and then took a swing at him. To his credit, the guard backed off and tried to calm him; but, on the next lunge, the guard took the kid down, cuffed his hands behind his back, and called the police. They recognized him. He had been let out of jail just two days earlier. Putting him back there, staff members argued, obviously wasn't going to make a difference. Shouldn't he be taken to a hospital for treatment?
The police pointed out that he was simply too strong and violent to be handled at a hospital, so he would have to go to jail. While waiting to be taken away, the kid turned some corner in his mind and left sobbing.
His behavior was not a measure of his character or even of his civility, but of how severe his psychosis had become without treatment and under the stress of prison. The man was sick, not bad. If we accept that schizophrenia, for instance, is not the result of a character flaw or a personal failing but of some chemical imbalance in the brain -- an imbalance that can strike regardless of a person's values, beliefs, upbringing, social standing, or intent, just like any other disease -- then why do we apply a kind of moral judgment we wouldn't use in other medical situations? We do not, for example, jail a diabetic who is acting drunk because his body chemistry has become so unbalanced that he is going into insulin shock, but we frequently jail schizophrenics when their brain chemistries become so unbalanced that they act out, as if punishment were the appropriate and effective response to a mental disorder.
And the police aren't happy about their role either. Cities are responding to such problems with mental health courts and the like for sorting out the mentally disturbed from other prisoners. Salt Lake City now has a model program, but nationally there is a long way to go.
According to the Department of Justice, there are about four times as many people with mental illnesses incarcerated in America today as under treatment in state mental hospitals. Some jails devote entire wings to the mentally ill.
Jails, of course, are intended to control, intimidate, and humiliate. Such a dehumanizing environment can be especially devastating for the mentally ill. I am particularly wary when dealing with street people who are recently out of jail because they are likely to be in an especially agitated state. Of course, cops and jailers are no better trained or prepared than librarians to handle people with serious psychological problems. This is a bond we share -- our unacknowledged charge and our inevitable failure to meet it.
In the 1980s, during the Reagan administration, the discharged mentally ill began to be "deinstitutionalized" from crowded hospitals with "snake pit" conditions where they got inadequate treatment. They were supposed to be integrated into local communities and cared for by local clinics. That was the dream anyway, but such humane alternatives to indifferent hospitalization failed to materialize.
The clinics were never built and the communities that were supposed to embrace the mentally ill didn't get the memo. The safety net that was to catch them proved to be chockfull of holes. Instead, they migrated to urban psychiatric ghettoes -- alleys, parks, abandoned buildings, vacant lots, and flophouses. As housing became more competitive and costly in the 1990s, they were further compressed into the margins of society where their suffering festered like an open wound. Now, it is up to the police to re-institutionalize them -- but this time in snake-pit prisons where they generally receive no treatment at all. So, in the last couple of decades, we have exchanged revolving doors to padded cells for revolving doors to jail cells with steel bars.
The cost of keeping a mentally-ill person in jail is not cheap. In Utah, it turns out to be the yearly equivalent of tuition at an Ivy League college. For that kind of taxpayer money, we could get our mentally ill off the streets and into stable housing environments with enough leftover for the kinds of support services most of them need to stay off the street. Again, the right thing to do for them may also be the most practical choice for us. We could solve the problem for less than it costs to manage it. In the meanwhile, they will cycle between the jail and the library. Is it any wonder that they crave a calm and entertaining environment after weeks, months, or years of fear and noise in jail? From a taxpayer's perspective, however, it seems cheaper to warehouse them in the library, between stints in jail -- or simply to pay no attention to where they are at all.
Refusing Treatment
Even if treatment options were not so scarce and inadequate, many of the mentally ill would not get treatment because they refuse to be treated. Paranoia is rampant on the street and paranoid people do not willingly submit to strange doctors and nurses who might "implant" something in them -- or worse. The cops, paramedics, and social workers can't take a person to the hospital just because he is ranting incoherently. He has to be a danger to himself or others.
Committing the mentally ill, homeless or otherwise, to treatment facilities against their wills is a civil liberties conundrum. As a political activist with controversial ideas, I am sensitive to the issues raised when citizens are forced into treatment. Images of Soviet dissidents getting dragged into psych wards and drugged come immediately to mind. But when a person is hallucinating and clearly upset, it is hard to accept, as I have often heard from social workers and the police, that "nothing can be done."
Sid was in his twenties when he came to us -- a tall, lanky, blond kid with a scraggly beard who walked around rumpled and slump-shouldered, his head hung in a beaten-dog kind of way. He avoided eye-contact and was very quiet most of the time. He liked to read graphic novels and comic books. Occasionally, though, he would jump up and move quickly outside where he would shout and twitch uncontrollably. He seemed to sense when his Tourette's Syndrome would strike and wanted to spare us.
On his worst days, he was troubled by hallucinations and voices he would answer in exasperated whispers. The police told me he had been raped by other transients -- a common occurrence on the street, bound to aggravate and complicate existing psychological disorders. When addressed directly, Sid was unfailingly polite and soft-spoken. Sometimes, we saw him eating scraps from garbage receptacles. The library staff worried about him, replaced his clothes when they fell apart, and bought him food when he grew thin and pale.
Sid, however, refused treatment. The case could be made that Sid was a danger to himself. After all, he often wasn't coherent enough to acquire food for himself. But nobody made that case. One day Sid disappeared. Staff members looked for him on the street and asked other homeless patrons if they had seen him. No one knew a thing and we never saw him again. I often wonder what happened to him. I like to imagine that he was rescued by family members who had been looking for him. It's far more likely that Sid's demons led him to a bus and that he's wandering the margins of another alien city where "nothing can be done."
We see so much despair of Sid's sort among the lost souls who shelter at the library that, by winter's end -- our "homeless season" -- we often find ourselves hard put to cope with our own feelings of depression and frustration. As one library manager told me, "I struggle not to internalize what I experience here, but there are days I just go home and burst out in tears." She is considering leaving the profession.
Another colleague started out in social work and transitioned to a library career when she found she couldn't handle the emotional stress of dealing with her down-and-out clients. Imagine her surprise to rediscover her feelings of despair while working in the library. "I deal with the same clientele," she told me one day, "but now I have no way of making a difference. I still go home feeling sad and discouraged that, in a nation as rich and powerful as ours, we abandon mentally ill people on the streets and then resent them for being sick in public."
There is hope, however. After decades of studies by various task forces, followed by experiments by local governments, a consensus has emerged that the most effective way to help chronically homeless people is to stabilize them in housing first and then offer treatment. Social scientists and policy-makers have concluded, logically enough, that it is hard to "get better" while living in a stressful, demeaning, and unstable environment and easier to recover when one feels safe and secure.
This "housing first" strategy isn't cheap, but it is far more realistic and effective than requiring people to get better as a prerequisite for housing -- and it costs much less than failing the way we do now. Salt Lake County, like many local governments, has created a ten-year plan to end homelessness based on housing-first principles. The wheel of reform is moving slowly, however, and many people who need help now will suffer and die on the street before things can turn their way (if they ever actually do). And the librarians at the City Library and the good citizens of Salt Lake will watch them struggle daily, while waiting for saner policies to take hold.
Gaining the World and Losing Each Other
In the meantime, the Salt Lake City Public Library -- Library Journal's 2006 "Library of the Year" -- has created a place where the diverse ideas and perspectives that sustain an open and inclusive civil society can be expressed safely, where disparate citizens can discover common ground, self-organize, and make wise choices together. We do not collect just books, we also gather voices. We empower citizens and invite them to engage one another in public dialogues. I like to think of our library as the civic ballroom of our community where citizens can practice that awkward dance of mutuality that is the very signature of a democratic culture.
And if the chronically homeless show up at the ball, looking worse than Cinderella after midnight? Well, in a democratic culture, even disturbing information is useful feedback. When the mentally ill whom we have thrown onto the streets haunt our public places, their presence tells us something important about the state of our union, our national character, our priorities, and our capacity to care for one another. That information is no less important than the information we provide through databases and books. The presence of the impoverished mentally ill among us is not an eloquent expression of civil discourse, like a lecture in the library's auditorium, but it speaks volumes nonetheless.
The belief that we are responsible for each other's social, economic, and political well-being, that we will care for our weakest members compassionately, should be the keystone in the moral architecture of a democratic culture. We will not stand by while our fellow citizens are deprived of their fellowship and citizenship -- which is why we ended racial segregation and practices like poll taxes that kept disenfranchised Americans powerless. We will not let children starve. We do not consign orphans to the streets like they do in Brazil or let children be sold into prostitution as they do in Thailand. We are proud of our struggles to meet people's basic needs and to encourage inclusion. Why, then, are the mentally ill still such an exception to those fundamental standards?
America is proud of its hyper-individualism, our liberation from the bonds of tribe and the social constraints of traditional societies. We glorify the accomplishments of inventors, innovators, entrepreneurs, pioneers, and artists. But while some individuals thrive and the cutting edge of our technology is wondrous, the plight of the chronically homeless tells me that our communities are also fragmented and disintegrating. We may have gained the world and lost each other.
The Penan nomads of Sarawak, Borneo, members of an indigenous and primal culture, have no technology or material comforts that compare with our mighty achievements. They have one word for "he," "she," and "it." But they have six words for "we." Sharing is an obligation and is expected, so they have no phrase for "thank you." An American child is taught that homelessness is regrettable but inevitable since some people are bound to fail. A child of the Penan is taught that a poor man shames us all.
Ophelia is not so far off after all -- in a sense she is dead and has been for some time. Hers is a kind of social death from shunning. She is neglected, avoided, ignored, denied, overlooked, feared, detested, pitied, and dismissed. She exists alone in a kind of social purgatory. She waits in the library, day after day, gazing at us through multiple lenses and mumbling to her invisible friends. She does not expect to be rescued or redeemed. She is, as she says, "used to it."
She is our shame. What do you think about a culture that abandons suffering people and expects them to fend for themselves on the street, then criminalizes them for expressing the symptoms of illnesses they cannot control? We pay lip service to this tragedy -- then look away fast. As a library administrator, I hear the public express annoyance more often than not: "What are they doing in here?" "Can't you control them?" Annoyance is the cousin of arrogance, not shame.
We will let Ophelia and the others stay with us and we will be firm but kind. We will wait for America to wake up and deal with its Ophelias directly, deliberately, and compassionately. In the meantime, our patrons will continue to complain about her and the others who seek shelter with us. Yes, we know, we say to them; we hear you loud and clear. Be patient, please, we are doing the best we can. Are you?
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Posted by: EagleMB on Apr 2, 2007 12:37 AM
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If not, how do we offer help? Soup kitchens could solve their hunger needs and shelters could be made available for warm sleeping arrangements, but at the end of the day you will still have drug addicts and mentally ill people roaming the streets.
What are your ideas for a solution?
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» One solution = free housing for the homeless
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» RE: Should we lock them up in homes? No, our DECIDER will help them out.
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» Heres a question.. are they homeless because they do drugs or...
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» You slightly miss the point, I think. People use drugs to escape from life.
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» RE: You slightly miss the point, I think. People use drugs to escape from life.
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» Ok, that addresses some aspects of the mentally ill... but doesn't address anyone else.
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» Well
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» RE: Ok, that addresses some aspects of the mentally ill... but doesn't address anyone else.
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» My argument is that such may be the case for some. nm
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Posted by: Aussie Kim on Apr 2, 2007 1:43 AM
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I wrote to townhall and abused the crap out of them, stating that since they are meant to be CHRISTIANS that they should be taking care of homeless people, instead of abusing them. I also said that they should not abuse librarians for doing the job of CHRISTIANS in taking care of the sick and homeless.
For memory I also stated that if their great and wonderful country actually bothered to take care of its people, then maybe there would be fewer mental cases homeless and wandering the streets and "dirtying up" the libraries.
As if librarians didn't have enough to do, on not much pay, without having to suddenly become social workers and psychologists because the rest of the world can't be bothered.
F*cking hypocrites.
Can you tell I'm a librarian? ;)
Check this out:
librarians are evil
I think this may have been the article in question, although I seem to remember there were more details. Never mind, this will suffice in demonstrating my point.
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Posted by: Heath on Apr 2, 2007 4:51 AM
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But for those individuals who have a mental illness or a substance absue problem--often referred to as the "chronically homeless"--one of the best solutions I've read about is too simply give those folks free housing. And the rationale for this is that it is less costly than any other alternative (short of just letting people die in the streets, which many of the conservatives Aussie Kim referred to would sadly be okay with).
Here's a great Malcolm Gladwell article on the benefits of this approach.
gladwell article
This is a link to an organization that advocates free housing as a solution:
pathways
And lastly, a Mother Jones profile of Pathways, the organization linked to above:
mother jones article
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Brutal or understandable? Not quite sure.
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My suggestion for an IMMEDIATE way to address the issue -- of course housing and adequate care are the real goals -- is for municipalities to fund a social worker specifically to work in libraries. Smaller municipalities could share a social worker. This would take cooperation between the libraries and the social service delivery system, but would provide a valuable respite for those with degrees in library science- not social work - as well as for the clients so desperately in need of service.
I'm truly appalled at the idea of BOUNCERS at a library.
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Posted by: lisebrouillette on Apr 2, 2007 5:55 AM
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Never mind the moral outrageousness of the situation, what the hell is the matter with governments (American AND Canadian) that they don't understand that they would actually SAVE MONEY by putting these people back in the institution where they should be?
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They must be self taught of course
Free heat and light is a valuable commodity
To the Poor!
Sick and Famished
In Americo today!
Where’s?
The Christian Nation
When you need them?
Exxon needs more!
Gates needs more!
Splat Robber's-son,
Needs More!
While the poverty
Runs Rampant
In their idea of
The
American Nightmare.
These people live it!
Who’s to blame?
We are.
For letting Corpirate
Parasites
Whittle us down!
TV station by Newspaper,
By
Religion,
Inch by Inch
State by State
Country by Country
They ask for a inch
And
Take a yard!
Poor little Billionaire needs more money
To buy
And another
Empty yacht!
They have nothing better to do
With those Trust funds.
It’s a write off!
Instead of paying Taxes
Like you do.
They shelter it
And use it for creating
Endless
Stink Tank
In-Proper Gander.
Sure
The Poor need prescription Drugs
Like everyone else
But they must
Beg for it first!
Ripple Please!
They where created
So we could have something!
To look down upon!
And say!
Aren’t our crappy lives great.
Compared to WHAT?????
They have nothing to run from.
They have hit bottom.
And
With them!
So have we.
Where is our morals?
Our Compassion?
Our dreams?
That is the direction?
That
We are headed in?
With
The Shrub at the helm?
DOWN
Down
down
Send everybody to Getmoe
There’s plenty of money for that:
Torture Prisons
Concentration Camps!
By Halla-Co!
Three squares a day.
And plenty of
ELECTRICITY!
Surely the
Faux-est.
Corpirate State
In the Universe
Can afford?
Taking care of it’s own Citizens!
When tiny poorer Counties do!
Shut off
The BU__! SH__!
For one second
And
See
What?
Hits the FAN.
Let’s
Find out what is really happening!
In Americo today!
The
Wealthiest!
Cheapest!
Hypocrites!
In the
World.
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It seems every month
a new institution is born, but our libraries are also filled with fugetives, homeless and mental problems.
Every market creates his clientele.
So even with national health insurance, many sponsored shelter you will have these problems.
In nazi germany those people were put in concentration camps,
in communistic countries slave camps or jail.
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Posted by: Bobsays on Apr 2, 2007 6:41 AM
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And so year after year the number of people dependent on food banks goes up.
Don't worry: liberalism is a bankrupt philosophy as well.
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It's been 20-plus years of this and most working folks I know are WORN OUT from "the homeless problem."
What's the solution? No clue. But I don't want psychotic smelly people anywhere near me when I visit the library.
They are already running the government.
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Why don't they use some of this effort and money to help a few of these people?
This country is so f##$@d-up that I am seriously thinking about emigrating.
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Consider President Bush's concept of shared sacrifice in Gulf War 2. The burden falls squarely on the U.S. military and their families. Everyone else must "suffer" from high gas prices. Poor things.
And then there's Shrub's "compassionate conservatism." If helping unfortunate human beings is part of his spiritual belief system, he didn't show it after a giant tidal wave devastated Southeast Asia in December 2004, killing 220,000 people.
Our country is the richest on Earth. Yet incredibly to me, Bush initially offered a miniscule $15 million in relief to help the beleaguered nations recover.
I learned about George W.'s humiliating handout while watching him on CNN. At first, I couldn't believe it. From three years of studying his leadership style, I knew he was a heartless hypocrite who had no qualms about killing innocent women and children in Iraq while professing to be a Christian. But Shrub's unsympathetic reaction to the tidal wave tragedy soared off the Richter scale of callous indifference. Why would his administration treat homeless people in America differently?
The solution to the “library problem”, of course, is getting local charities involved, like the Red Cross and Salvation Army, supplemented by federal funds. But that requires big-hearted presidential leadership which is nonexistent. For proof, ask people who live (or used to) in New Orleans.
Hugh E. Scott, editor of King-George.biz -- the only website with hardcopy proof of White House corruption.
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» Here's the rest of the sad Tsuamai story...
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"Yes it's true: in 'socialist' Canada you will walk the streets of its cities and see acres of homeless people. Even worse, whole homeless families in this freezing cold country. And do Canadians, those global liberals and high priests of political correctness, care? No. Because homelessness is a result of being stupid and lazy. That's how they explain it."
That would be hectares not acres in Canada. Yes there are high rates of homelessness, even in small towns. In Ontario much of this large increase has happened because of Premier Mike Harris's Progressive Conservative government downloading of provincial responsibilities to the municipalities in the 1990s without downloading the funding to carry out those responsibilities. Privitisation of services that should have remained public is another culprit. Bottom lines have become more important than people's lives.
One case in point were large numbers of people who found stability and productivity in their lives having medications properly monitored while they lived in a Toronto mental health centre or lived in the community. When the plug was pulled on funding (by conservatives) these people wound up on the street, begging because they could not get the medication they needed and have health professionals to help monitor their conditions.
Another major reason is the lack of affordable housing, particularly in larger centres like Toronto, Montreal, Calgary, and Vancouver. Shelters are NOT the answer. Supportive community housing is one answer. A higher minimum wage is another.
"Don't worry: liberalism is a bankrupt philosophy as well."
Liberalism is not at fault here, in fact it is quite the opposite! I have yet to hear anyone who identify as liberal and label a homeless person stupid or lazy. Canada is not a socialist country, it is a mixed economy and unfortunately with the giving away of things that aid the common good to private interests it is becoming more like America!
You should check your facts before you post stuff like this!
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Posted by: WitchyNy on Apr 2, 2007 7:58 AM
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How many young men now fighting this current war...will come home ...and end up living on the streets?
A friend of mine who works with the mentally ill says that there is no cure for these people...most of them suffered violent abuse as children and just do not get better.
Homeless people are just the visible signs of the deep problems our society is facing. We can see them. The rich hide the same problems behind closed doors.
The rumors that President Bush is an alcoholic ring true.
It comes full circle.
The homeless are just a symptom of the problem.
The real problem is our entire profit-based, life and earth destroying government.
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» In Southern California, most homeless people don't use libraries. They live in their cars.
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» To YinRising. Stopped pimping "MIC"... What is that?
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» I do what's best for me, right or wrong. That's called "integrity."
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» RE: In Southern California, most homeless people don't use libraries. They live in their cars.
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» It's why uppercrust Californians wear sunglasses. So the poor can't see them looking the other way.
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The atavistic and anti-Christian nature of conservative ideology is adored by so many of our leaders in politics, academia, media and rightwing religious organizations that selfishness and greed has utterly corrupted the masses. Capitalism has replaced Christianity as our state religion.
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» No matter whose fault homelessness is, national leadership is still required to solve it...
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» It is to some degree government's fault because it is their "free market" policies
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» Also, in this economy can that brother or cousin even AFFORD to take care of them??
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» RE: Good point, however, the family is meaningless in America today, so it IS big brother's job
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» Baloney.
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» Your rightwing, Karl Rove rubbish shows how ignorant you are and nothing more.
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» To LeftCoastProgressive. Have you ever thought of being CIVIL when making a comment?
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» RE: Blame yourselves you left wing vermin....
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» (which remarkably only seems to show up during Republican administrations)?
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» RE: Blame yourselves you RIGHT WING vermin....
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Posted by: jmooney on Apr 2, 2007 9:11 AM
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The same goes for the addict or alcoholic. To me, that's a form of mental illness as well. If they can't function well enough to hold down a job and keep a roof over their heads, they need to be institutionalized. Just letting mentally troubled and/or addicted people wander around aimlessly day and night, in libaries, parks, alleys, etc., just isn't helping anyone. Sure, we need safeguards in place to make sure we aren't rounding up people haphazardly, but we must do something, and as the article said, we're spending money but it isn't being used effectively.
We absolultely must go back to state-run mental institutions (asylums, if you will). De-institutionalizing just has not worked, pure and simple. If we took the money being spent in Iraq and build a state of the art system of mental asylums and addiction treatment facilities and and allowed the police and the courts to place folks their, against their will, we might be able to do something about this problem. As it stands now, yes, we have to just do the best we can and that means having them up in libraries and wherever they can go (so long as they can behave just a little bit). And, yeah, I agree, as long as we have the stupid system we have in place, they need to be out in the public so folks can see them and know that something simply isn't right with a system that can spend so much to "liberate" Iraq but can't even liberate its own people from homelessness and other degradation.
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I’ve been told there are thousands of former middleclass citizens in Los Angeles County who use their autos as mobile homes while trying to find meaningful employment with disposable cell phones. You can bet none of them, if able, will vote Republican next year.
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» To YinRising: What kind a rightwing nut are you? ANSWER: the treasonous kind.
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» The "American Empire" is sick, as is an illegal occupation.
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Posted by: BlueTigress on Apr 2, 2007 9:20 AM
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Let them know that their misbehaving darlings are mixing with crazy homeless people and watch the misinformed comments fly!
Attention will be generated, I assure you.
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Posted by: garyro on Apr 2, 2007 9:31 AM
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In St. Louis, homeless do indeed find daytime shelter in the library systems. Alas, many of these vets seeking shelter are vets. yes, vets (sad commentary on our treatment of vets to say the least).
Mentally ill, drunk or not; it is the funcion of a civilized society to address these folks problems. Some posters feel "compassion fatigue", a polite way of saying it is not my problem. Alas, it is your problem as much as it is my problem.
Ignoring the problem is contributing to the problem in my eyes.
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Posted by: Sojourner on Apr 2, 2007 9:53 AM
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No it is not all government's fault. Yes, many homeless like the lifestyle. (I live in southern California in a coastal city where we have an ample poplulation of isolated, alienated, sociopathic people--some veterans, to be sure, but mostly folks who just want to be let alone.)
We have used our prosperity to fund McMansions and Hummers. Not only have we trashed our middle-class, we have always had an underclass. It's just getting bigger and bigger and since we do not believe in socialism, the improper will continue to intrude upon the proper. It's called "logical consequences."
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» Thanks for the kind of information I never see in the daily news.
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Posted by: cmcgath on Apr 2, 2007 10:15 AM
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I live in an urban area (just working in a small town) and worked at that city's Library for several months. There was a very large homeless and mentally ill population in this small city and they would call the Library home during its hours of operation. I remember helping a woman I had seen talking to herself or someone I couldn't see for awhile (much like your Ophelia) find a book. She wanted a particular biography of Queen Elizabeth I and it was not on the shelf. According to the catalogue, it was in the Library, but had somehow escaped the shelf or been misplaced.
When I was unable to find the book, she began sobbing uncontrollably, ending up on the floor of the 921s. I was speechless, mystified, and obvioulsy felt unable to deal with the situation. I tried to comfort her but I do not think she even realized I was there with her, that I was attempting compassion and comfort all while feeling helpless. I called Security not knowing what else to do and in the several minutes it took for security to arrive upstairs where we were waiting she stopped crying, got up and walked away.
I was stunned and my emotions and very psyche felt as if it had been hit with a proverbial lead pipe. I felt horrible ... helpless and realized then and there that even a Library in a small city has big city issues. To me, this also is telling. If this issue effects Libraries and Librarians in even small town / small city USA, we have a very large but nonetheless surmountable problem in our country ... social, economic, political problems that you addressed eloquently in your article. But with this, all of us must exhibit and possess compassion for one another.
Other than the obvious and much-needed changes made on a state and federal level to help to not further hinder the homeless &/or mentally ill population ... where do we go as Librarians from here?
Best of luck in Salt Lake City ... and thank you deeply for beginning a dialogue about this very important issue!
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Posted by: sh1mm3r on Apr 2, 2007 10:16 AM
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I worked at an urban university library reference desk and we dealt with what we called "community members" all of the time, since we were the closest library to the shelters downtown. If I hadn't had security available to me I would have felt unsafe, and I had to take advantage of having them walk me to my car after dealing with a particularly unstable individual.
One thing to remember is that respect goes a long way. Just because someone smells bad or has mental issues doesn't mean they shouldn't be treated with the same amount of respect that you would give someone who looks "normal." You can make assumptions but you don't know why people are acting a certain way.
I would say that equal to this problem are people who use the library as daycare, or afterschool care.
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Posted by: dmbtiger on Apr 2, 2007 11:18 AM
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So many Americans living in that quiet desparation because they are one or two paychecks at most from THE STREET. Marx called them "wage slaves" and it is true because their fear keeps them from rocking the political boat that gives us a govermnent of the rich, by the rich, and for the rich. There but for the grace of the rich go I. The future does not bode well for this nation where each year the poor get poorer and the rich get richer.
Next time you see somone living on the street, do not wonder why. It is no accident. It is part of the political agenda of the rich. If they have no bread, let them eat cake...and die!
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» The homeless are a symptom...
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So, I would like to offer a solution. It is based on a residential living center program that is used for the elderly. In the elderly program there are three phases: independent living where you can care for yourself and join in the community; assisted living where daily care givers come in to help and deliver meds; and finally, full hospital care for those who have reached the final stages of life.
In a homeless living center, this would work in reverse: they come into the hospital center for treatment (either voluntarily or by court order) where they can detox and get on a balanced meds routine; then they move into the next phase within the center of assisted living where they learn to medicate and care for themselves indepentdently; and finally, the independent living sector where they hold jobs within the center to generate care for others within the center or to generate goods and services that the center can use to generate operating funds (like Goodwill does for its centers). While they are hospitalized, social workers can help them get the assistance they need because now they would have a private address where social benefits could be paid; the social worker can then follow them through the assisted phase by helping them with training programs as well as follow-up counseling for mental health and substance abuse problems as well as financial and lifestyle issues; and finally, the social worker checks in monthly to see that everything is still on track in the independent living situation to insure that people are beginning to regain hope and self-respect, and where something is slipping to step in immediately and help.
These centers offer an alternative to the old asylum facilities, allow the homeless a safe haven, and are able to allow them to help themselves as well as those who follow behind them. If the "socially acceptable" of our society do not feel comfortable having these centers in their neighborhoods, then perhaps some of the old miliatry bases that were decommissioned could be converted by nearby communities, and the word could be put out on the street that these are safe havens from the dangers of shelters. When you are homeless, fear is a constant companion and often makes the voices sound louder or the drink seem more appealing as the nightmares come. by offering welcoming centers in environments that are not threatening, hopefully with caring and compassionate assistance, these people whom life has treated badly could once again find their way back to themselves and those who loved them, but could not help.
It is just a thought.
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Sadly it all falls into a context of increasing overall poverty. A few days ago I saw two immaculately dressed guys out on the street, looking incredibly uncomfortable. One had a spanking new aluminum leg. "Iraq vetrans, please give" said the sign. It's not that they're better people for retaining military bearing, no suffering is priviledged...but it was like a snapshot from the depression, guys in fedoras and clean cheap suits on the corner. How are we going to care about the mentally ill homeless when we are ceasing to care about people who were, until a month or two earlier, largely in the mainstream?
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Posted by: Colton on Apr 2, 2007 1:20 PM
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I hear many people complain "not with MY tax dollars! ~ Lazy ingrates!" Yet, as the author states, EACH homeless person costs between 20k and 150k a YEAR in tax dollars; more then enough for a place to live in subsadised housing, medical care and a social worker, yet we do not because it is far simpler to just ignore the problem.
It is time to just shut up and DO IT.
Just shut up already about how Shrub and his minions dedicated 4 billion dollars to ending homelessness in 10 years because the rest of us know it's all bulls*it. Look at the final budget and see for REAL how much $$$ gets allocated: Almost nothing. Remember this is the same President that allocated "Billions of Dollars" to environmental programs while at the same time faking and minimizing global warming reports.
A more sinister problem lurks in the shadows: Homelessness makes the average suburban dweller crazy with panic because they know that they themselves are just one too many credit cards away from the same fate, or a variable interest mortgage, or a health accident. Once again it becomes easier to just ignore it, or perhaps buy them a 20$ bus ticket and send them to another town far away so they can be someone else's problem. Like a shadowy nightmare under our beds it becomes something we can't escape from no matter where we turn. Each year more people fall prey to homelessness and yet simple answers like raising the minimum wage (which has NOT killed business in ANY of the states that have raised it) affordable housing, affordable day care etc etc etc.
It's time to face the facts: The American Dream is dead ~ the homeless used to be failures and lazy folk; it was all THEIR fault they did not succeed... but that time is long past and it is long past the time we should still be thinking that way. Try getting a job at McDonalds without a shower, ever see someone in a wheelchair work there? The answer is no longer "get a job" Getting a job is only part of the solution.
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Back in the 1980's my Sociology textbook in college had an interesting chapter on homelessness (chalk it up to a great Jesuit education at Loyola university) A researcher decided to study homelessness from the street so he went about conducting an experiment:
He gave his house keys to his friend and informed his parents that he was going to spend a month on the street as a homeless person to better understand them as a Sociologist. He told his friend to not return his keys to him no matter how much he begged until the 30 days were up. He locked up and hit the street with 20$ in his pocket.
30 days passed... and then a week, and then another week. Finally his family and friends called the police in desperation because he had not returned. They scoured the city asking everyone for help. Many people just ignored them.
5 months later he was located living under a freeway overpass, alive but hardly healthy. He refused to look at or talk to this family or friends. The Police captain finally got an answer from him as to why he had never returned home:
He said "You don't understand the things I had to do to survive, the things I did just to get food to eat... I knew that if I went home and they understood the person I had become, they would hate me forever..."
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What cities are discovering is that it's more cost efficient - and humane - to provide these individuals a long-term residence up front and assign them visiting case workers, rather than allowing them to rack up hefty tabs as "frequent fliers" to city and private services.
Dayton, Ohio, for instance, has found that on the street, one group of mentally ill homeless individuals cost taxpayers $203 a day. But when they were moved into a 10-unit apartment building, with supportive health services, that cost dropped to $85 a day.
Solution to homelessness: a home
But over the past few years, cities from coast to coast have begun embracing a new strategy: permanent housing for the homeless with supportive services built in. The Bush administration, which is calling for an end to chronic homelessness - in conjunction with dozens of cities - is supporting the efforts with nearly $600 million in grants for permanent housing.
See also: National Alliance to End Homelessness
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It seems that the homeless mentally ill are treated with same disdain that illicit drug addicts experience. Federal drug policy has led to the destruction of so many families and inevitably contributes to the homelessness problem.
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They have their own problems keeping heads above water.
It is the people who are directly connected saddled with the burden of screaming at the top of our lungs. Unfortunately, it seems to be landing on deaf ears. Most of us are going horse. Thankfully new people are dragged into this mess every day, so on the plus side, we do get new voices periodically.
I am and have been in the social service field for over 20 years and have screamed, kicked and threatened political retrobution for those that have been dysenfranchised... but those of us on the inside can't do it alone it seems, we need a hero... we need the American people. But more than that we need legislation... legislation that can't be easily overturned by the next administration with a bug up it's bum about the national spending on it's own people.
We will never have formed a perfect union until all citizens are treated with respect and dignity. When those that are the least of us are provided for if they are unable to do so themselves. Basics like food, shelter and education.
But as long as we keep the death grip on our capitalistic and war-mongering values, we will never reach our potential as human(e) beings. And the homeless, downtrodden and sick will ever be a blight on our sleeves.
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Just wanted to say what a great article you have written here. Well done, Sir, keep up the good work!
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Posted by: tgabriel on Apr 2, 2007 9:30 PM
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I guess somehow I had thought the Mormons would have done better. Have taken care of these folks, provided for them. Just goes to show how really difficult the problem is. Several comments have castigated Canadians for not being Socialist enough and has an answer about the homeless, as if Canada was Socialist at all. Several commenters from Europe have mentioned their homeless problem and it is no surprise to read about them.
It really doesn't matter how Socialist you are, how religious you are, how much you care. Sometimes societies cannot help their members. Sometimes members of societies do not want to be helped. Institutionalize them? History shows us the cure might be worse than the illness. Ignore them? How do you ignore fellow travelers? Keep the night shelters available for them during the day? Why not? After all, they have shelter at night. At least some do. Many of the homeless I have seen in DC and here are on the street at night because there is no room. At least that seems why.
Certainly some of them are out on the street because they prefer it.
I guess maybe they ARE being provided for. Is that what libraries have become. Day time shelters?
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Posted by: Ian MacLeod on Apr 2, 2007 10:15 PM
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The "good people" of Bend, Oregon, here, have been batting around a shelter for the homeless - many of us ARE veterans - and everyones says it's a great idea, but "not in MY neighborhood".
Get the sterotypes out of your heads first, and just see people who can't work or couldn't make enough, had catastrophic medical expenses, women and children whose choices are being battered and maybe killed or the street... It happens more quickly and easily than you know, and then you're "an addict", and people don't want you around. No matter WHAT really hapened!
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Besides, why would we trust the government with such a task as trying to figure out how to deal with such an important and complex social issue as homelessness? Because they have been so effective and all-around fantastic in the past with important and complex social issues? Laughable.
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Posted by: jpeppers on Apr 2, 2007 11:29 PM
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In 96 I actually lived in the homeless center and was one of those people lining up outside the library in the winter to get warm. I really don't know what the answer is, but I think that we need to learn a hell of a lot about tolerance and accomodating people that don't want to live the way we want to.
For instance, in many cultures throughout history, people we would now lock up and forcibly medicate were humored and treated well by the locals. Take "Emperor Norton" of San Francisco. He declared himself emperor of the U.S. and people humored him and even accepted his phony currency. I have heard many stories like this. Why not create a place for people to be weird if they want to be? Let them talk to the lamppost or believe in whatever the hell they want- we humor all the people who believe Jesus is coming again to bring about the end of the world so I don't see why we should lock someone up who believes God talks to them. Not sure which is crazier.
But fear is a powerful motivator, and knowing that there is really no option other than work and maintain the status quo keeps a lot of people working the shite jobs our economy is built on. If I could find a semi-comfortable way to opt out I surely would. But my time being homeless was pretty hellish, and the way I was treated by people was unbelievable. In the end, it's our total lack of compassion as society that will be our downfall. We write people off, judge them, blame them for thier suffering, and are so calloused we don't really care whether or not they live or die. It's very sad. And that really is the root of the problem. We live in a system that will do everything BUT look at the root of the problem. We're doomed.
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When I'd learned to pick up women and live with them, I fought back with planted mikes in IRS and other government offices - a couple of congressmen and a senator. I'm not homeless anymore, but one thing I've learned is that as long as the government has the IRS and the power to tax, none of us really owns a home. Noneof us really owns anything. It's only held in custody for the government.
They may want it to spend on killing people somewhere. Iraq, for instance, Afghanistan.
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Social Responsibilities Round Table of the American Library Association has this website:
http://hhptf.org/
The American Library Association has this policy for serving Poor People:
The American Library Association promotes equal access to information for all persons, and recognizes the urgent need to respond to the increasing number of poor children, adults, and families in America. These people are affected by a combination of limitations, including illiteracy, illness, social isolation, homelessness, hunger, and discrimination, which hamper the effectiveness of traditional library services. Therefore it is crucial that libraries recognize their role in enabling poor people to participate fully in a democratic society, by utilizing a wide variety of available resources and strategies. Concrete programs of training and development are needed to sensitize and prepare library staff to identify poor people's needs and deliver relevant services. And within the American Library Association the coordinating mechanisms of programs and activities dealing with poor people in various divisions, offices, and units should be strengthened, and support for low-income liaison activities should be enhanced.
http://hhptf.org/resources/#library-services-for-poor-people
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Posted by: Librariantoo on Apr 4, 2007 6:35 PM
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We are not picking on the poor! But we are not a social service agency and I am not a social worker. I can tell you that you are an administrator!
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Posted by: Wassermann on Apr 4, 2007 8:53 PM
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So, to solve this problem all one would need to do is set up masses of internet cafes for the homeless in the big cities using decent secondhand computers with high-speed connections provided for free by the big internet companies (because it's for the homeless). Also include some (cheap) books and old magazines in these internet cafes, too -- the basics like all of the holy texts (Bible, Koran, Bhagavad Gita, Tao Te Ching, Buddhist books, Book of Mormon, etc etc.), classic novels, poetry, history, old National Geographics, and so forth [but NO TVs!].
Tons of decent old secondhand books could be donated by MANY places, along with many of the computers, furniture, and such. Clothes could be given away here too, as in people would donate to this plsce instead of Goodwill because these things would actually be given away rather than being sold for a profit. Goodwill also has a lot of old books and computer equipment that no one ever buys, it just sits in the back of the store or in warehouses waiting to be 're-sold' internationally in bulk -- these clothes and books could be given away to these homeless cafes too.
Also, some of the homeless could be taught to build or break-down computer hardware easily (from all of the old computers that could be donated to these internet cafes/mini-libraries for the homeless) -- yes, that's right...the homeless could be taught to replace faulty parts and such as needed in this internet cafe for the homeless; they would thus learn a semi-valuable technical skill.
Of course these cafes would eventually be used to traffic drugs and such (like homeless shelters today), but who cares: at least they'll be "segregated" from 'proper' society so that no will have to deal with them, look at them, smell them.
Someone also mentioned allowing the homeless to 'set up shop' in bank lobbies -- I'm up for that idea too!
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Posted by: insulaparadigm on Apr 4, 2007 10:26 PM
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My city library was full of people needing clear mental help... I
was shocked when I went in for the first time mid morning.
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Posted by: insulaparadigm on Apr 4, 2007 11:01 PM
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you can watch it on the web - it's a bit old but very informative on the problem.
No it's not the system screwing people over - it's people thrown in prison because there is no other option for them.
Not all homeless are insane - but a lot are - and the ones the article is addressing clearly are. I don't want to be an enabler of a bad system anymore - especially one that feeds our disgusting prison industry.
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Posted by: clayton@claytoncramer.com on Apr 5, 2007 4:32 PM
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There are a host of well-intentioned people involved. The primary failure here wasn't cheapskates unwilling to care for the mentally ill; it was a well-intentioned effort to move psychotics out of a system that was underfunded during the Depression and World War II (for obvious reasons) back into the mainstream of society. It didn't work--nor could it. Contributing to the problem was that some people were being locked up in mental hospitals for the wrong reasons, leading to federal court decisions such as O'Connor v. Donaldson (1975) which while right, had the effect of limiting the authority of state governments to hospitalize people who were genuinely in need of treatment.
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May be interesting fodder but I don't see the NEWSFASH. Its been going on forever.
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Posted by: magikmama on Apr 9, 2007 3:10 PM
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Their solution as a stop-gap was to install public showers in the basement and a mini-laundromat. If a homeless person comes in who has bad odor, they can at least offer them somewhere to wash.
Of course, they were only able to do this because it was funded from a grant from a patron who didn't want to complain and get these people kicked out, but also found the odors completely overwhelming.
Not surprisingly, many of their regular homeless patrons are very happy with this. Being clean can really improve your outlook of yourself, let alone how others see you.
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As written, I find that astonishing. I can easily believe that many American children are taught that homelessness is regrettable. But inevitable? Who teaches that?
Have any of us been taught that as children? I was not. Not by school, not by family, not by the surrounding culture. This is not a rhetorical question--have any of us been taught that? If so, can you guess at a possible vector for the idea? Is it popular in a certain region, or among a certain Generation, or what?
If no one can report having experienced being taught this as a child, then I suspect Chip Ward's point of contrasting American children with Penan children is not quite a strong as I first took it to be.
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If not, how do we offer help? Soup kitchens could solve their hunger needs and shelters could be made available for warm sleeping arrangements, but at the end of the day you will still have drug addicts and mentally ill people roaming the streets.
What are your ideas for a solution?
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Posted by: Aussie Kim on Apr 2, 2007 1:43 AM
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I wrote to townhall and abused the crap out of them, stating that since they are meant to be CHRISTIANS that they should be taking care of homeless people, instead of abusing them. I also said that they should not abuse librarians for doing the job of CHRISTIANS in taking care of the sick and homeless.
For memory I also stated that if their great and wonderful country actually bothered to take care of its people, then maybe there would be fewer mental cases homeless and wandering the streets and "dirtying up" the libraries.
As if librarians didn't have enough to do, on not much pay, without having to suddenly become social workers and psychologists because the rest of the world can't be bothered.
F*cking hypocrites.
Can you tell I'm a librarian? ;)
Check this out:
librarians are evil
I think this may have been the article in question, although I seem to remember there were more details. Never mind, this will suffice in demonstrating my point.
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Posted by: Heath on Apr 2, 2007 4:51 AM
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But for those individuals who have a mental illness or a substance absue problem--often referred to as the "chronically homeless"--one of the best solutions I've read about is too simply give those folks free housing. And the rationale for this is that it is less costly than any other alternative (short of just letting people die in the streets, which many of the conservatives Aussie Kim referred to would sadly be okay with).
Here's a great Malcolm Gladwell article on the benefits of this approach.
gladwell article
This is a link to an organization that advocates free housing as a solution:
pathways
And lastly, a Mother Jones profile of Pathways, the organization linked to above:
mother jones article
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Brutal or understandable? Not quite sure.
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My suggestion for an IMMEDIATE way to address the issue -- of course housing and adequate care are the real goals -- is for municipalities to fund a social worker specifically to work in libraries. Smaller municipalities could share a social worker. This would take cooperation between the libraries and the social service delivery system, but would provide a valuable respite for those with degrees in library science- not social work - as well as for the clients so desperately in need of service.
I'm truly appalled at the idea of BOUNCERS at a library.
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Posted by: lisebrouillette on Apr 2, 2007 5:55 AM
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Never mind the moral outrageousness of the situation, what the hell is the matter with governments (American AND Canadian) that they don't understand that they would actually SAVE MONEY by putting these people back in the institution where they should be?
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Posted by: williameon on Apr 2, 2007 6:15 AM
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They must be self taught of course
Free heat and light is a valuable commodity
To the Poor!
Sick and Famished
In Americo today!
Where’s?
The Christian Nation
When you need them?
Exxon needs more!
Gates needs more!
Splat Robber's-son,
Needs More!
While the poverty
Runs Rampant
In their idea of
The
American Nightmare.
These people live it!
Who’s to blame?
We are.
For letting Corpirate
Parasites
Whittle us down!
TV station by Newspaper,
By
Religion,
Inch by Inch
State by State
Country by Country
They ask for a inch
And
Take a yard!
Poor little Billionaire needs more money
To buy
And another
Empty yacht!
They have nothing better to do
With those Trust funds.
It’s a write off!
Instead of paying Taxes
Like you do.
They shelter it
And use it for creating
Endless
Stink Tank
In-Proper Gander.
Sure
The Poor need prescription Drugs
Like everyone else
But they must
Beg for it first!
Ripple Please!
They where created
So we could have something!
To look down upon!
And say!
Aren’t our crappy lives great.
Compared to WHAT?????
They have nothing to run from.
They have hit bottom.
And
With them!
So have we.
Where is our morals?
Our Compassion?
Our dreams?
That is the direction?
That
We are headed in?
With
The Shrub at the helm?
DOWN
Down
down
Send everybody to Getmoe
There’s plenty of money for that:
Torture Prisons
Concentration Camps!
By Halla-Co!
Three squares a day.
And plenty of
ELECTRICITY!
Surely the
Faux-est.
Corpirate State
In the Universe
Can afford?
Taking care of it’s own Citizens!
When tiny poorer Counties do!
Shut off
The BU__! SH__!
For one second
And
See
What?
Hits the FAN.
Let’s
Find out what is really happening!
In Americo today!
The
Wealthiest!
Cheapest!
Hypocrites!
In the
World.
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It seems every month
a new institution is born, but our libraries are also filled with fugetives, homeless and mental problems.
Every market creates his clientele.
So even with national health insurance, many sponsored shelter you will have these problems.
In nazi germany those people were put in concentration camps,
in communistic countries slave camps or jail.
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Posted by: Bobsays on Apr 2, 2007 6:41 AM
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And so year after year the number of people dependent on food banks goes up.
Don't worry: liberalism is a bankrupt philosophy as well.
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Posted by: veggiegrrrl on Apr 2, 2007 6:49 AM
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It's been 20-plus years of this and most working folks I know are WORN OUT from "the homeless problem."
What's the solution? No clue. But I don't want psychotic smelly people anywhere near me when I visit the library.
They are already running the government.
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Why don't they use some of this effort and money to help a few of these people?
This country is so f##$@d-up that I am seriously thinking about emigrating.
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Consider President Bush's concept of shared sacrifice in Gulf War 2. The burden falls squarely on the U.S. military and their families. Everyone else must "suffer" from high gas prices. Poor things.
And then there's Shrub's "compassionate conservatism." If helping unfortunate human beings is part of his spiritual belief system, he didn't show it after a giant tidal wave devastated Southeast Asia in December 2004, killing 220,000 people.
Our country is the richest on Earth. Yet incredibly to me, Bush initially offered a miniscule $15 million in relief to help the beleaguered nations recover.
I learned about George W.'s humiliating handout while watching him on CNN. At first, I couldn't believe it. From three years of studying his leadership style, I knew he was a heartless hypocrite who had no qualms about killing innocent women and children in Iraq while professing to be a Christian. But Shrub's unsympathetic reaction to the tidal wave tragedy soared off the Richter scale of callous indifference. Why would his administration treat homeless people in America differently?
The solution to the “library problem”, of course, is getting local charities involved, like the Red Cross and Salvation Army, supplemented by federal funds. But that requires big-hearted presidential leadership which is nonexistent. For proof, ask people who live (or used to) in New Orleans.
Hugh E. Scott, editor of King-George.biz -- the only website with hardcopy proof of White House corruption.
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» RE: Compassion and charity starts at the top.
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» Here's the rest of the sad Tsuamai story...
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» Note also that those indigenous peoples can no longer freely access lands once theirs
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"Yes it's true: in 'socialist' Canada you will walk the streets of its cities and see acres of homeless people. Even worse, whole homeless families in this freezing cold country. And do Canadians, those global liberals and high priests of political correctness, care? No. Because homelessness is a result of being stupid and lazy. That's how they explain it."
That would be hectares not acres in Canada. Yes there are high rates of homelessness, even in small towns. In Ontario much of this large increase has happened because of Premier Mike Harris's Progressive Conservative government downloading of provincial responsibilities to the municipalities in the 1990s without downloading the funding to carry out those responsibilities. Privitisation of services that should have remained public is another culprit. Bottom lines have become more important than people's lives.
One case in point were large numbers of people who found stability and productivity in their lives having medications properly monitored while they lived in a Toronto mental health centre or lived in the community. When the plug was pulled on funding (by conservatives) these people wound up on the street, begging because they could not get the medication they needed and have health professionals to help monitor their conditions.
Another major reason is the lack of affordable housing, particularly in larger centres like Toronto, Montreal, Calgary, and Vancouver. Shelters are NOT the answer. Supportive community housing is one answer. A higher minimum wage is another.
"Don't worry: liberalism is a bankrupt philosophy as well."
Liberalism is not at fault here, in fact it is quite the opposite! I have yet to hear anyone who identify as liberal and label a homeless person stupid or lazy. Canada is not a socialist country, it is a mixed economy and unfortunately with the giving away of things that aid the common good to private interests it is becoming more like America!
You should check your facts before you post stuff like this!
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Posted by: WitchyNy on Apr 2, 2007 7:58 AM
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How many young men now fighting this current war...will come home ...and end up living on the streets?
A friend of mine who works with the mentally ill says that there is no cure for these people...most of them suffered violent abuse as children and just do not get better.
Homeless people are just the visible signs of the deep problems our society is facing. We can see them. The rich hide the same problems behind closed doors.
The rumors that President Bush is an alcoholic ring true.
It comes full circle.
The homeless are just a symptom of the problem.
The real problem is our entire profit-based, life and earth destroying government.
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» In Southern California, most homeless people don't use libraries. They live in their cars.
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» To YinRising. Stopped pimping "MIC"... What is that?
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» I do what's best for me, right or wrong. That's called "integrity."
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» RE: In Southern California, most homeless people don't use libraries. They live in their cars.
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» It's why uppercrust Californians wear sunglasses. So the poor can't see them looking the other way.
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The atavistic and anti-Christian nature of conservative ideology is adored by so many of our leaders in politics, academia, media and rightwing religious organizations that selfishness and greed has utterly corrupted the masses. Capitalism has replaced Christianity as our state religion.
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» No matter whose fault homelessness is, national leadership is still required to solve it...
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» It is to some degree government's fault because it is their "free market" policies
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» Also, in this economy can that brother or cousin even AFFORD to take care of them??
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» RE: Good point, however, the family is meaningless in America today, so it IS big brother's job
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» RE: Good point, however, the family is meaningless in America today, so it IS big brother's job
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» Baloney.
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» Your rightwing, Karl Rove rubbish shows how ignorant you are and nothing more.
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» RE: Blame yourselves you left wing vermin....
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» To LeftCoastProgressive. Have you ever thought of being CIVIL when making a comment?
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» RE: Blame yourselves you left wing vermin....
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» (which remarkably only seems to show up during Republican administrations)?
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» RE: Blame yourselves you RIGHT WING vermin....
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Posted by: jmooney on Apr 2, 2007 9:11 AM
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The same goes for the addict or alcoholic. To me, that's a form of mental illness as well. If they can't function well enough to hold down a job and keep a roof over their heads, they need to be institutionalized. Just letting mentally troubled and/or addicted people wander around aimlessly day and night, in libaries, parks, alleys, etc., just isn't helping anyone. Sure, we need safeguards in place to make sure we aren't rounding up people haphazardly, but we must do something, and as the article said, we're spending money but it isn't being used effectively.
We absolultely must go back to state-run mental institutions (asylums, if you will). De-institutionalizing just has not worked, pure and simple. If we took the money being spent in Iraq and build a state of the art system of mental asylums and addiction treatment facilities and and allowed the police and the courts to place folks their, against their will, we might be able to do something about this problem. As it stands now, yes, we have to just do the best we can and that means having them up in libraries and wherever they can go (so long as they can behave just a little bit). And, yeah, I agree, as long as we have the stupid system we have in place, they need to be out in the public so folks can see them and know that something simply isn't right with a system that can spend so much to "liberate" Iraq but can't even liberate its own people from homelessness and other degradation.
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» thoughtful comments jmooney
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I’ve been told there are thousands of former middleclass citizens in Los Angeles County who use their autos as mobile homes while trying to find meaningful employment with disposable cell phones. You can bet none of them, if able, will vote Republican next year.
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» To YinRising: What kind a rightwing nut are you? ANSWER: the treasonous kind.
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» The "American Empire" is sick, as is an illegal occupation.
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Posted by: BlueTigress on Apr 2, 2007 9:20 AM
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Let them know that their misbehaving darlings are mixing with crazy homeless people and watch the misinformed comments fly!
Attention will be generated, I assure you.
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» Which could be why we are seeing younger and younger kids...
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Posted by: garyro on Apr 2, 2007 9:31 AM
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In St. Louis, homeless do indeed find daytime shelter in the library systems. Alas, many of these vets seeking shelter are vets. yes, vets (sad commentary on our treatment of vets to say the least).
Mentally ill, drunk or not; it is the funcion of a civilized society to address these folks problems. Some posters feel "compassion fatigue", a polite way of saying it is not my problem. Alas, it is your problem as much as it is my problem.
Ignoring the problem is contributing to the problem in my eyes.
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Posted by: Sojourner on Apr 2, 2007 9:53 AM
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No it is not all government's fault. Yes, many homeless like the lifestyle. (I live in southern California in a coastal city where we have an ample poplulation of isolated, alienated, sociopathic people--some veterans, to be sure, but mostly folks who just want to be let alone.)
We have used our prosperity to fund McMansions and Hummers. Not only have we trashed our middle-class, we have always had an underclass. It's just getting bigger and bigger and since we do not believe in socialism, the improper will continue to intrude upon the proper. It's called "logical consequences."
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» Thanks for the kind of information I never see in the daily news.
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Posted by: cmcgath on Apr 2, 2007 10:15 AM
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I live in an urban area (just working in a small town) and worked at that city's Library for several months. There was a very large homeless and mentally ill population in this small city and they would call the Library home during its hours of operation. I remember helping a woman I had seen talking to herself or someone I couldn't see for awhile (much like your Ophelia) find a book. She wanted a particular biography of Queen Elizabeth I and it was not on the shelf. According to the catalogue, it was in the Library, but had somehow escaped the shelf or been misplaced.
When I was unable to find the book, she began sobbing uncontrollably, ending up on the floor of the 921s. I was speechless, mystified, and obvioulsy felt unable to deal with the situation. I tried to comfort her but I do not think she even realized I was there with her, that I was attempting compassion and comfort all while feeling helpless. I called Security not knowing what else to do and in the several minutes it took for security to arrive upstairs where we were waiting she stopped crying, got up and walked away.
I was stunned and my emotions and very psyche felt as if it had been hit with a proverbial lead pipe. I felt horrible ... helpless and realized then and there that even a Library in a small city has big city issues. To me, this also is telling. If this issue effects Libraries and Librarians in even small town / small city USA, we have a very large but nonetheless surmountable problem in our country ... social, economic, political problems that you addressed eloquently in your article. But with this, all of us must exhibit and possess compassion for one another.
Other than the obvious and much-needed changes made on a state and federal level to help to not further hinder the homeless &/or mentally ill population ... where do we go as Librarians from here?
Best of luck in Salt Lake City ... and thank you deeply for beginning a dialogue about this very important issue!
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Posted by: sh1mm3r on Apr 2, 2007 10:16 AM
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I worked at an urban university library reference desk and we dealt with what we called "community members" all of the time, since we were the closest library to the shelters downtown. If I hadn't had security available to me I would have felt unsafe, and I had to take advantage of having them walk me to my car after dealing with a particularly unstable individual.
One thing to remember is that respect goes a long way. Just because someone smells bad or has mental issues doesn't mean they shouldn't be treated with the same amount of respect that you would give someone who looks "normal." You can make assumptions but you don't know why people are acting a certain way.
I would say that equal to this problem are people who use the library as daycare, or afterschool care.
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Posted by: dmbtiger on Apr 2, 2007 11:18 AM
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So many Americans living in that quiet desparation because they are one or two paychecks at most from THE STREET. Marx called them "wage slaves" and it is true because their fear keeps them from rocking the political boat that gives us a govermnent of the rich, by the rich, and for the rich. There but for the grace of the rich go I. The future does not bode well for this nation where each year the poor get poorer and the rich get richer.
Next time you see somone living on the street, do not wonder why. It is no accident. It is part of the political agenda of the rich. If they have no bread, let them eat cake...and die!
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» The homeless are a symptom...
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So, I would like to offer a solution. It is based on a residential living center program that is used for the elderly. In the elderly program there are three phases: independent living where you can care for yourself and join in the community; assisted living where daily care givers come in to help and deliver meds; and finally, full hospital care for those who have reached the final stages of life.
In a homeless living center, this would work in reverse: they come into the hospital center for treatment (either voluntarily or by court order) where they can detox and get on a balanced meds routine; then they move into the next phase within the center of assisted living where they learn to medicate and care for themselves indepentdently; and finally, the independent living sector where they hold jobs within the center to generate care for others within the center or to generate goods and services that the center can use to generate operating funds (like Goodwill does for its centers). While they are hospitalized, social workers can help them get the assistance they need because now they would have a private address where social benefits could be paid; the social worker can then follow them through the assisted phase by helping them with training programs as well as follow-up counseling for mental health and substance abuse problems as well as financial and lifestyle issues; and finally, the social worker checks in monthly to see that everything is still on track in the independent living situation to insure that people are beginning to regain hope and self-respect, and where something is slipping to step in immediately and help.
These centers offer an alternative to the old asylum facilities, allow the homeless a safe haven, and are able to allow them to help themselves as well as those who follow behind them. If the "socially acceptable" of our society do not feel comfortable having these centers in their neighborhoods, then perhaps some of the old miliatry bases that were decommissioned could be converted by nearby communities, and the word could be put out on the street that these are safe havens from the dangers of shelters. When you are homeless, fear is a constant companion and often makes the voices sound louder or the drink seem more appealing as the nightmares come. by offering welcoming centers in environments that are not threatening, hopefully with caring and compassionate assistance, these people whom life has treated badly could once again find their way back to themselves and those who loved them, but could not help.
It is just a thought.
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Sadly it all falls into a context of increasing overall poverty. A few days ago I saw two immaculately dressed guys out on the street, looking incredibly uncomfortable. One had a spanking new aluminum leg. "Iraq vetrans, please give" said the sign. It's not that they're better people for retaining military bearing, no suffering is priviledged...but it was like a snapshot from the depression, guys in fedoras and clean cheap suits on the corner. How are we going to care about the mentally ill homeless when we are ceasing to care about people who were, until a month or two earlier, largely in the mainstream?
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I hear many people complain "not with MY tax dollars! ~ Lazy ingrates!" Yet, as the author states, EACH homeless person costs between 20k and 150k a YEAR in tax dollars; more then enough for a place to live in subsadised housing, medical care and a social worker, yet we do not because it is far simpler to just ignore the problem.
It is time to just shut up and DO IT.
Just shut up already about how Shrub and his minions dedicated 4 billion dollars to ending homelessness in 10 years because the rest of us know it's all bulls*it. Look at the final budget and see for REAL how much $$$ gets allocated: Almost nothing. Remember this is the same President that allocated "Billions of Dollars" to environmental programs while at the same time faking and minimizing global warming reports.
A more sinister problem lurks in the shadows: Homelessness makes the average suburban dweller crazy with panic because they know that they themselves are just one too many credit cards away from the same fate, or a variable interest mortgage, or a health accident. Once again it becomes easier to just ignore it, or perhaps buy them a 20$ bus ticket and send them to another town far away so they can be someone else's problem. Like a shadowy nightmare under our beds it becomes something we can't escape from no matter where we turn. Each year more people fall prey to homelessness and yet simple answers like raising the minimum wage (which has NOT killed business in ANY of the states that have raised it) affordable housing, affordable day care etc etc etc.
It's time to face the facts: The American Dream is dead ~ the homeless used to be failures and lazy folk; it was all THEIR fault they did not succeed... but that time is long past and it is long past the time we should still be thinking that way. Try getting a job at McDonalds without a shower, ever see someone in a wheelchair work there? The answer is no longer "get a job" Getting a job is only part of the solution.
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Back in the 1980's my Sociology textbook in college had an interesting chapter on homelessness (chalk it up to a great Jesuit education at Loyola university) A researcher decided to study homelessness from the street so he went about conducting an experiment:
He gave his house keys to his friend and informed his parents that he was going to spend a month on the street as a homeless person to better understand them as a Sociologist. He told his friend to not return his keys to him no matter how much he begged until the 30 days were up. He locked up and hit the street with 20$ in his pocket.
30 days passed... and then a week, and then another week. Finally his family and friends called the police in desperation because he had not returned. They scoured the city asking everyone for help. Many people just ignored them.
5 months later he was located living under a freeway overpass, alive but hardly healthy. He refused to look at or talk to this family or friends. The Police captain finally got an answer from him as to why he had never returned home:
He said "You don't understand the things I had to do to survive, the things I did just to get food to eat... I knew that if I went home and they understood the person I had become, they would hate me forever..."
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What cities are discovering is that it's more cost efficient - and humane - to provide these individuals a long-term residence up front and assign them visiting case workers, rather than allowing them to rack up hefty tabs as "frequent fliers" to city and private services.
Dayton, Ohio, for instance, has found that on the street, one group of mentally ill homeless individuals cost taxpayers $203 a day. But when they were moved into a 10-unit apartment building, with supportive health services, that cost dropped to $85 a day.
Solution to homelessness: a home
But over the past few years, cities from coast to coast have begun embracing a new strategy: permanent housing for the homeless with supportive services built in. The Bush administration, which is calling for an end to chronic homelessness - in conjunction with dozens of cities - is supporting the efforts with nearly $600 million in grants for permanent housing.
See also: National Alliance to End Homelessness
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It seems that the homeless mentally ill are treated with same disdain that illicit drug addicts experience. Federal drug policy has led to the destruction of so many families and inevitably contributes to the homelessness problem.
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They have their own problems keeping heads above water.
It is the people who are directly connected saddled with the burden of screaming at the top of our lungs. Unfortunately, it seems to be landing on deaf ears. Most of us are going horse. Thankfully new people are dragged into this mess every day, so on the plus side, we do get new voices periodically.
I am and have been in the social service field for over 20 years and have screamed, kicked and threatened political retrobution for those that have been dysenfranchised... but those of us on the inside can't do it alone it seems, we need a hero... we need the American people. But more than that we need legislation... legislation that can't be easily overturned by the next administration with a bug up it's bum about the national spending on it's own people.
We will never have formed a perfect union until all citizens are treated with respect and dignity. When those that are the least of us are provided for if they are unable to do so themselves. Basics like food, shelter and education.
But as long as we keep the death grip on our capitalistic and war-mongering values, we will never reach our potential as human(e) beings. And the homeless, downtrodden and sick will ever be a blight on our sleeves.
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Just wanted to say what a great article you have written here. Well done, Sir, keep up the good work!
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I guess somehow I had thought the Mormons would have done better. Have taken care of these folks, provided for them. Just goes to show how really difficult the problem is. Several comments have castigated Canadians for not being Socialist enough and has an answer about the homeless, as if Canada was Socialist at all. Several commenters from Europe have mentioned their homeless problem and it is no surprise to read about them.
It really doesn't matter how Socialist you are, how religious you are, how much you care. Sometimes societies cannot help their members. Sometimes members of societies do not want to be helped. Institutionalize them? History shows us the cure might be worse than the illness. Ignore them? How do you ignore fellow travelers? Keep the night shelters available for them during the day? Why not? After all, they have shelter at night. At least some do. Many of the homeless I have seen in DC and here are on the street at night because there is no room. At least that seems why.
Certainly some of them are out on the street because they prefer it.
I guess maybe they ARE being provided for. Is that what libraries have become. Day time shelters?
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Posted by: Ian MacLeod on Apr 2, 2007 10:15 PM
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The "good people" of Bend, Oregon, here, have been batting around a shelter for the homeless - many of us ARE veterans - and everyones says it's a great idea, but "not in MY neighborhood".
Get the sterotypes out of your heads first, and just see people who can't work or couldn't make enough, had catastrophic medical expenses, women and children whose choices are being battered and maybe killed or the street... It happens more quickly and easily than you know, and then you're "an addict", and people don't want you around. No matter WHAT really hapened!
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Besides, why would we trust the government with such a task as trying to figure out how to deal with such an important and complex social issue as homelessness? Because they have been so effective and all-around fantastic in the past with important and complex social issues? Laughable.
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In 96 I actually lived in the homeless center and was one of those people lining up outside the library in the winter to get warm. I really don't know what the answer is, but I think that we need to learn a hell of a lot about tolerance and accomodating people that don't want to live the way we want to.
For instance, in many cultures throughout history, people we would now lock up and forcibly medicate were humored and treated well by the locals. Take "Emperor Norton" of San Francisco. He declared himself emperor of the U.S. and people humored him and even accepted his phony currency. I have heard many stories like this. Why not create a place for people to be weird if they want to be? Let them talk to the lamppost or believe in whatever the hell they want- we humor all the people who believe Jesus is coming again to bring about the end of the world so I don't see why we should lock someone up who believes God talks to them. Not sure which is crazier.
But fear is a powerful motivator, and knowing that there is really no option other than work and maintain the status quo keeps a lot of people working the shite jobs our economy is built on. If I could find a semi-comfortable way to opt out I surely would. But my time being homeless was pretty hellish, and the way I was treated by people was unbelievable. In the end, it's our total lack of compassion as society that will be our downfall. We write people off, judge them, blame them for thier suffering, and are so calloused we don't really care whether or not they live or die. It's very sad. And that really is the root of the problem. We live in a system that will do everything BUT look at the root of the problem. We're doomed.
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When I'd learned to pick up women and live with them, I fought back with planted mikes in IRS and other government offices - a couple of congressmen and a senator. I'm not homeless anymore, but one thing I've learned is that as long as the government has the IRS and the power to tax, none of us really owns a home. Noneof us really owns anything. It's only held in custody for the government.
They may want it to spend on killing people somewhere. Iraq, for instance, Afghanistan.
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Social Responsibilities Round Table of the American Library Association has this website:
http://hhptf.org/
The American Library Association has this policy for serving Poor People:
The American Library Association promotes equal access to information for all persons, and recognizes the urgent need to respond to the increasing number of poor children, adults, and families in America. These people are affected by a combination of limitations, including illiteracy, illness, social isolation, homelessness, hunger, and discrimination, which hamper the effectiveness of traditional library services. Therefore it is crucial that libraries recognize their role in enabling poor people to participate fully in a democratic society, by utilizing a wide variety of available resources and strategies. Concrete programs of training and development are needed to sensitize and prepare library staff to identify poor people's needs and deliver relevant services. And within the American Library Association the coordinating mechanisms of programs and activities dealing with poor people in various divisions, offices, and units should be strengthened, and support for low-income liaison activities should be enhanced.
http://hhptf.org/resources/#library-services-for-poor-people
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Posted by: Librariantoo on Apr 4, 2007 6:35 PM
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We are not picking on the poor! But we are not a social service agency and I am not a social worker. I can tell you that you are an administrator!
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So, to solve this problem all one would need to do is set up masses of internet cafes for the homeless in the big cities using decent secondhand computers with high-speed connections provided for free by the big internet companies (because it's for the homeless). Also include some (cheap) books and old magazines in these internet cafes, too -- the basics like all of the holy texts (Bible, Koran, Bhagavad Gita, Tao Te Ching, Buddhist books, Book of Mormon, etc etc.), classic novels, poetry, history, old National Geographics, and so forth [but NO TVs!].
Tons of decent old secondhand books could be donated by MANY places, along with many of the computers, furniture, and such. Clothes could be given away here too, as in people would donate to this plsce instead of Goodwill because these things would actually be given away rather than being sold for a profit. Goodwill also has a lot of old books and computer equipment that no one ever buys, it just sits in the back of the store or in warehouses waiting to be 're-sold' internationally in bulk -- these clothes and books could be given away to these homeless cafes too.
Also, some of the homeless could be taught to build or break-down computer hardware easily (from all of the old computers that could be donated to these internet cafes/mini-libraries for the homeless) -- yes, that's right...the homeless could be taught to replace faulty parts and such as needed in this internet cafe for the homeless; they would thus learn a semi-valuable technical skill.
Of course these cafes would eventually be used to traffic drugs and such (like homeless shelters today), but who cares: at least they'll be "segregated" from 'proper' society so that no will have to deal with them, look at them, smell them.
Someone also mentioned allowing the homeless to 'set up shop' in bank lobbies -- I'm up for that idea too!
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Posted by: insulaparadigm on Apr 4, 2007 10:26 PM
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My city library was full of people needing clear mental help... I
was shocked when I went in for the first time mid morning.
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Posted by: insulaparadigm on Apr 4, 2007 11:01 PM
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you can watch it on the web - it's a bit old but very informative on the problem.
No it's not the system screwing people over - it's people thrown in prison because there is no other option for them.
Not all homeless are insane - but a lot are - and the ones the article is addressing clearly are. I don't want to be an enabler of a bad system anymore - especially one that feeds our disgusting prison industry.
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Posted by: clayton@claytoncramer.com on Apr 5, 2007 4:32 PM
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There are a host of well-intentioned people involved. The primary failure here wasn't cheapskates unwilling to care for the mentally ill; it was a well-intentioned effort to move psychotics out of a system that was underfunded during the Depression and World War II (for obvious reasons) back into the mainstream of society. It didn't work--nor could it. Contributing to the problem was that some people were being locked up in mental hospitals for the wrong reasons, leading to federal court decisions such as O'Connor v. Donaldson (1975) which while right, had the effect of limiting the authority of state governments to hospitalize people who were genuinely in need of treatment.
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May be interesting fodder but I don't see the NEWSFASH. Its been going on forever.
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Posted by: magikmama on Apr 9, 2007 3:10 PM
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Their solution as a stop-gap was to install public showers in the basement and a mini-laundromat. If a homeless person comes in who has bad odor, they can at least offer them somewhere to wash.
Of course, they were only able to do this because it was funded from a grant from a patron who didn't want to complain and get these people kicked out, but also found the odors completely overwhelming.
Not surprisingly, many of their regular homeless patrons are very happy with this. Being clean can really improve your outlook of yourself, let alone how others see you.
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As written, I find that astonishing. I can easily believe that many American children are taught that homelessness is regrettable. But inevitable? Who teaches that?
Have any of us been taught that as children? I was not. Not by school, not by family, not by the surrounding culture. This is not a rhetorical question--have any of us been taught that? If so, can you guess at a possible vector for the idea? Is it popular in a certain region, or among a certain Generation, or what?
If no one can report having experienced being taught this as a child, then I suspect Chip Ward's point of contrasting American children with Penan children is not quite a strong as I first took it to be.
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