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From the Mirage of a Middle-Class Life to the Slavery of Debt

By Joshua Holland, AlterNet. Posted March 24, 2007.


Maxed Out director James Scurlock explains how without credit cards, millions of apparently middle-class Americans would live at the poverty level.

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America is very wealthy country, but one has to wonder how much of our wealth is in fact a chimera, spun of a consumerist ideal and given the appearance of solidity by a flood of easy credit? How much poverty and real economic pain is covered up by an endless succession of pay-day loans and EZ-finance rip-offs that eventually just bury people under mountains of debt from which they have little chance of digging themselves out.

Today's bankruptcy rate is ten times what it was during the Great Depression, foreclosures are at a 37-year high and the United States has a negative savings rate, yet we're told every day that the economy is going gangbusters.

George W. Bush often points out that more Americans own their own homes today than ever before. He doesn't mention that they also have less equity in those homes than ever before. Every day brings news of the potential scope of the emerging "sub-prime" loan scandal -- what Robert Kuttner called "deregulation's latest gift" -- and new indicators that the housing market that's driven so much of the economy for the past five years is a bubble that's begun to burst right before our eyes.

Compounding our personal debt problems are our representatives, equally profligate spenders who are just as happy to run up enormous budget deficits and who reflexively guarantee and subsidize trillions of dollars of new loans to already strapped American businesses and consumers.

It's a pretty good time to ask ourselves just how we got here.

Writer and film director James Scurlock does just that in the documentary, and now book, Maxed Out: Hard Times, Easy Credit and the Era of Predatory Lenders. The film is a sprawling look at the seamy underside of the American credit industry -- an industry whose practices have changed dramatically since deregulation, and not for the better -- and at those who end up caught in a trap of their own creation.

The film is not perfect. Its view is broad but lacks depth; while it makes its point with some really effective storytelling, the documentary acts on an emotional level but lacks the kind of narrative power that makes Michael Moore's films, for example, such controversial cultural touchstones.

What Scurlock's camera does brilliantly is lay bare an issue that affects millions of working Americans but is usually buried under layers of shame and taboo. The film tells the individual human stories that lie behind the bankruptcy statistics, behind the foreclosure numbers. The book, released this week, follows up with much of the narrative power and depth that the film missed.

AlterNet caught up with Scurlock by phone this week to talk about his project and the country's emerging debt crisis more generally.

Joshua Holland: You really tapped into something at the right moment -- people have become aware of the issue of debt, and we're now hearing about it described as an emerging crisis.

James Scurlock : When I started the project a lot of people didn't even know what bankruptcy reform was, but most do now. A few weeks ago, nobody knew what "subprime" meant and now because of this whole mortgage fiasco I think everyone knows what that means. So here we are, two years after the start of the project and everything discussed in the film and the book has gotten worse. As we talked to people for the film, it became pretty obvious that things were just totally out of control and there was this sense that at some point the chickens are coming home to roost and that's largely what's been happening. I'm not gloating about that -- it's really tragic.

But my sense -- and I've talked to a lot of people since the project's been done -- is that the really big system hits are yet to come. There are a lot of bad mortgages out there; there are a lot of these "liar loan" mortgages out there; there are a lot of credit cards and people used to paying off their bills by refinancing their houses every year.


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Bankruptcy and, for the most part, foreclosures are more hidden
Posted by: albrechtkrausse on Mar 24, 2007 12:40 AM   
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from public view than in the past. This, I think, is the primary reason why there isn't more fighting for reform. Sadly, the corporate banking intertests have sucessfully ruined most small farmers and have, essentially, consolidated people into urban and sub-urban lifestyles in which it is much harder to know your neighbors (or, sadly, care about them) and so this vicious system grows on itselft. No one will stand against it.
I don't advocate breaking the law or anything illegal.
One could imagine, as a screenplay or novel, some actions that could fight this system but far be it from me to mention things like:
1) interfering with various banking machines
2) using cash for all transactions
3) using barter method to avoid tax/trace (I'll fix your engine you give me some chickens)
4) not paying the IRS anything they are not entitled to and/or filing returns that are 'complex'
5) buying/trading guns on the individual market (nothing scares them more than people owning weapons and not know where they are).
6) continue to post subversive ideas on internet boards that are being, probably, run by the establishment

I do not advocate breaking the law, any ideas expressed are for entertainment value only.

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» Business Reply Envelopes - mail them back empty! Posted by: karma_ran_over_dogma
Modern Debtors Prison
Posted by: NoPCZone on Mar 24, 2007 1:20 AM   
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Credit Score + new Bankruptcy Laws = new Debtor's Prison.

Don't fall into the trap.

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» Panopticon Nation Posted by: eddie torres
From politically worrying to economically frightening
Posted by: HeroesAll on Mar 24, 2007 1:37 AM   
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I've read articles about the debt crisis before, but this, I think, is the first one that mentions the potentially destabilising effects it may have on the banking system, due to the underwriting of the loans. And this is something I'm interested in, for a number of reasons.

Coincidentally, I was making a comment on another article today, and referred to the Penn Square Bank debacle. It was the first time I'd thought about it in years, and yet here's another article that cuts to the same heart.

For those of you that don't know the history, Penn Square Bank was a shopping centre bank in Oklahoma that nearly brought down some of the biggest banks in the US, by lending all sorts of money to people without adequate checks. Because they were small, they 'upstreamed' their loans, so the big banks would effectively finance them on the understanding that Penn Square had done the paperwork. Oops.

Yes, the situation here is a bit different: the Penn Square loans were large, to Okie oilmen, while today's personal loans are multitudinous, but small. But a lot of small loans still make up a helluva lot of money, and if they're all doing it, then no-one will be immune if it starts to shake. Very scary stuff.

If you're interested in reading about it, the book is Funny Money by Mark Singer. My copy has great cover art by Ralph Steadman, hot diggety.

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Credit cards: the beginning of the end.
Posted by: HughScott on Mar 24, 2007 4:51 AM   
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Having been born in 1935, I was lucky to witness America's greatest times which will never be repeated.

Talk about ingenuity! We got to the Moon using slide rules and built a giant economy without credit cards. However, I did miss the Great Depression, which may well be a new experience for me.

Soon.

Hugh E. Scott, editor of King-George.biz -- the only website with hardcopy proof of White House corruption (one reason why Bush won’t let Karl Rove testify under oath in the U.S. attorneys’ firing scandal).

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» To JSquercia: Sad indeed. Posted by: HughScott
My dad may live to see another Great Depression
Posted by: willie.horton on Mar 24, 2007 5:26 AM   
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My father was born in 1925, and many of his childhood experiences with poverty in the Depression carried forward into his later life.
One example: He had a secure government job, but every week he would cash his paycheck, count the money into envelopes for each of his bills, and then deposit it in his checking account.
Another example: Despite his relatively high-paying job, he felt compelled to fix cars on the side for cash. He used the cash for gasoline, groceries and other daily expenditures, leaving the income from his engineering job intact.

He's 82 now, living in Oklahoma (in a nice house, with no mortgage and zero debts) because of its low property taxes, and he has always urged me to be prepared to pack everything up and move out there to live with him "when the economy collapses again."

Lately, I'm starting to take him seriously.

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» My dad did the same thing Posted by: elmarco
» UNtruthfull one..... Posted by: Michiganman
» RE: UNtruthfull one.....YES YES Posted by: Michiganman
The author starts his article with the wrong sentence so let's be honest.
Posted by: maxpayne on Mar 24, 2007 8:46 AM   
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America is NOT a wealthy country. To say that America is a wealthy country is to already cave-in to the "conservative" frame trap and ideology. Secondly, before credit cards were "mainstream", at least back in the 20th century slavery was not the norm. On the other hand, in today's "economy" if you want to call it that, corporate slavery is ENTRENCHED credit card or none. What the author FAILS to also mention is that these so-called rewards and points for spending are one of the MAJOR reasons more people are so HEAVILY dependent on using their credit card. Go ahead, collect those points and get your "free" gift. It just might be your last.

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» Maxpayne is right. Posted by: HughScott
» Meh. Not really. Posted by: ABetterFuture
» Obviously you've never tried.... Posted by: Michiganman
» Michidandychum! How dahheckuvya been! Posted by: ABetterFuture
» RE: Meh. Not really. Posted by: cottontail
» A valid point, you've raised. Posted by: ABetterFuture
So we're all screwed
Posted by: ateo on Mar 24, 2007 8:49 AM   
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This isn't news to me. For whatever reason (perhaps growing up dirt poor) I have always been very debt/credit averse. The system is dysfunctional and what can we do about it? I suppose the only thing to do is either go with the flow and see where this all takes us, or buy a gun and pack up your stuff and move to Oklahoma like one poster advises.

Maybe dig a hole in a mountain in Wyoming and live una-bomber style?

Nah, I think I'll just wait it out and see where this all takes us. Life is the most amusing of all plays.

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The credit card companies pay ME
Posted by: ateo on Mar 24, 2007 8:53 AM   
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I've never paid 1 cent of interest on any of my credit cards in over 7 years of use. However, I collect 100-200 dollars a year in free money courtesy of Chase and USAA.

For a smart debt-averse consumer using credit cards is awesome!

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» UntruthfulOne Let em eat cake Posted by: Michiganman
» RE: random people arguing Posted by: UnEasyOne
» Yeah I really care..... Posted by: Michiganman
» You're right to be proud ateo Posted by: UnEasyOne
AMERICA IS NOT A WEALTHY NATION (anymore)
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Mar 24, 2007 10:58 AM   
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Debt has become a way of life. I don't believe that anyone lives with it comfortably. Maybe "I'm worth it" should be replaced by "how many hours/days will I have to work to pay for this?" Bring back the banking/usuary regulations and at the same time teach children and adults that it isn't the end of the world to say, "We can't afford that". Learn to use cash. It's not OK to have unsecured debt in the thousands. It's probably not healthy. Thanks, ANNA

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A New Lesson for Society, Again.
Posted by: djnoll on Mar 24, 2007 11:45 AM   
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While I skimmed this article, I did not feel overly compelled to read it in depth, because I live it every day. I do not use credit cards and I do not have a mortgage because I cannot get credit even if I wanted to because of my husband's ex-wife. She used credit cards - up to $25,000 in debt at last count - and my husband's child support for his daughter's goes to pay those debts. She got attachment orders based on lies of arrearages that take nearly 60% of his check, and we cannot even get a court hearing to bring this violation of the court orders to the court's attention.

Now I tell you this, not for sympathy, but to point out that even with all the best intentions, a person can find themselves being squeezed by this system of living on credit. I used to counsel families that were in trouble, and the majority of that trouble revolved around credit cards. I told them to cut up the cards, use a debit card, plan their bill paying, and stop the extras that they did not need. While a few listened to what I was saying, most did not, and all I could think of was how much trouble credit cards can cause.

My parents - children of the Great Depression - may have done a lot of things to try to improve our lives, but the one thing they did not do to us was say NO, because of the sense of deprivation they had felt as children. Now we, the Baby Boomers and our children, will have to learn the lesson again - you only buy what you can afford to pay for NOW. And it will be a hard lesson.

It wil mean no more toys, fancy cars, or big homes. It will mean learning to live on only what you earn, and the fact is, folks, what you earn is not enough to afford the type of life you think you are entitled to. It is not a question of entitlement, as some people think it is, but rather of what a person earns that makes for a quality of life. It will mean learning to live in smaller homes, drive older cars, read books form the library, using less energy, growing some of your own food, walking places to save gas.

This does not diminish the quality of one's life - it may be a shock at first, but trust me, having gone from a $120,000 income to a $6,000 income in the space of three days, I know it can be done. It is ironic that when it happened to me, nearly 20 years ago, I found that I became more aware of what the world held. I would walk my little dog each day, and she showed me the flowers I missed when I was driving, the children I never met in my neighborhood, and how to stay healthy by walking. I realized once the shock wore off, that I actually liked my life better and that there were more important things in life than fancy homes or expensive, fast cars. It is a hard lesson, but one that can be quite liberating.

It will be a new lesson for society, but it may be the very one that can save it. Try this for one week: put away your credit cards; budget $25 per person for food and $50 for non-food groceries(look for coupons and sales to stretch the money); one tank of gas only; and the payment of one major bill. Set aside money for quarterly bills and savings that equals 10% of your gross pay. You either will have to find other ways to supplement your income for that week or you will have to look closely at your bills. Then Google "Mary Hunt" and go to her website to learn more about how you can learn to reduce your debt, save money, and avoid bankruptcy. She did when she was left with hundred's of 1,000's in debt.

It will make life infinitely easier, I can guarantee you.

http://www.standanddeliveramerica.com

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» RE: A New Lesson for Society, Again. Posted by: dangerouslysane
» NOT SURPRISED guitrr MORE CRAP Posted by: Michiganman
the broader context
Posted by: kentropic on Mar 24, 2007 12:35 PM   
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For an excellent treatment of the socio-historical structural context in which the drama of personal credit plays out, see Part III of Kevin Phillips's American Theocracy (Viking Penguin, 2006).

Be sure to support your local library!

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EAT THE RICH
Posted by: WitchyNy on Mar 24, 2007 12:42 PM   
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America needs to change her values. The problem is the profit based system. We need to go back to small farms, small towns and neighborhoods where people actually know each other.

We need to live in equality...NO RICH PEOPLE. No private ownership of big businesses. We cannot 'fix' a system that is based on profit. Profit leads to environmental destruction.

We need to all become 'poor'. Small homes, gardens, wearing true work clothes-blue jeans and overhalls. We need to take pride in being poor.

The first question we need to ask is..."How will this be good for my family, my farm, my town, my country, my world".

Environment based. Not profit based. We need to organize. That is why we are so depressed and debt-ridden and worried and busy with stupid meaningless "jobs'. It is to keep us from getting together and taking back our country and our lives.

Everyone needs to watch the old movie..IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE-about 10 times. The Building and Loan-says it all regarding economics. The old house they fix up...says it all regarding what we should value in a home.

"People should be living in homes they built themselves and eating food they grew themselves"-THE GRAPES OF WRATH

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» RE: RICH Posted by: henderson
» And the politicians Posted by: Eat Politicians
Whores
Posted by: paschn on Mar 24, 2007 12:55 PM   
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They're everywhere. My favorite are the ones who, ( male or Female), give you a service for a fee and, usually are pretty decent folk making a buck. Everyone leaves happy as long as the lackeys of the power elite, ( commonly called police), don't nab either party to the "party".
The ones I simply LOATHE are the whores with political titles who sell THEIR services to Israel and the big corporations. You know, like McCain, Bush, Limbaugh, Hannity et al. in fact, doesn't McSwine sit on the Federal Banking Commission?The Same McSwine who's papa hid the Israeli murder of our servicemen on the USS Liberty from the US sheeple for 40 years?

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is it scurlock or spurlock???????
Posted by: jaggurnaut on Mar 24, 2007 3:43 PM   
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.......

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» RE: is it scurlock or spurlock??????? Posted by: Catoufofthebag
Lack of Regulation Due to Well Lobbied/Monied Politicians
Posted by: sofla100 on Mar 24, 2007 6:39 PM   
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This article clasically points towards what happens when a huge industry, such as the banking/credit card industry, is allowed to charge usury interest rates, then uses that money to corrupt politicians with lobbying and influence peddling so these same politicians will not pass the needed laws to regulate them. One part of the answer is simple, by law, cap credit card rates to a couple points above the federal reserve lending rate. But, just who do you think is padding with gobs of campaign cash the campaign coffers of Hillary Clinton and many other politicians? The credit card industry, the same industry that paid Hillary to change her vote on bankrupty reform to the position they favored. In America, money talks, and talks very loud, indeed.

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James Scurlock is wrong
Posted by: cinattra on Mar 25, 2007 5:12 AM   
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James Scurlock is wrong. My reason is this. Isn't the determination of whether someone is middle class or not based solely on income?

The credit we use today is no different than the bank loans that George Bailey from its a "Wonderful Life" gave to his customers.

In other words not spending money is more dangerous than spending money. Even God knows this with his parable of the Talents from the Book of Mathew.

Stuff your money in a mattress all you want and it will slowly lose its value over time from inflation. Illiquidity would definitely send the entire world into a situation whereby we'd skip the next Great Depression and go right into the next Dark Ages.

As long as responsible users of money counter balance the knucklehead users of money we'll be fine. Hopefully the new credit laws will make people think twice before over extending themselves beyond their means.

My heart goes out to people who go into debt due to medical bills or some injury that keeps them from working.

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» Learn some economics Posted by: ReallyBearish
» RE: James Scurlock is wrong Posted by: WitchyNy
» RE: James Scurlock is wrong Posted by: richholland
Credit Unions vs Banks
Posted by: cinattra on Mar 25, 2007 5:16 AM   
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I've always used a bank. Are Credit Unions any different? For better or for worse?

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» RE: Credit Unions vs Banks Posted by: Krotos
» RE: Credit Unions vs Banks Posted by: mizkaye
US Consumption Society is Based on Neurosis
Posted by: drricklippin on Mar 25, 2007 7:33 AM   
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We are a young nation which has been duped into believing that the acquisition of things leads to personal happiness.

Advertising and easy credit has fed the beast. But all of this is "biting back" as pointed out in the good interview by Joshua Holland of AlterNet. Thanks

We need early, values based, education of our children both at home and at school to ensure that, someday, they understand that given basic necessities of life like food, clothing, shelter etc., that happiness is found in meaningful work and in human relationships

But my views might tag me as anti-American? So be it.

Dr. Rick Lippin
Southampton, Pa

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Do Not Let Congress Fool You Anymore
Posted by: mite on Mar 25, 2007 9:50 AM   
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do the research and find out the truth.

Queen Elizabeth and English Bannkers control and has amended U.S. Social Security.

Search: The Ultimate Delision by Stephan Kimbol Ames-

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It's Happening Here in West Texas!
Posted by: WWMD on Mar 25, 2007 10:10 AM   
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I live in El Paso, Texas. We are supposedly still having a housing boom because The Dubya decided to station an additional 20,000 troops here at Fort Bliss. I had a house built at, what was then, the edge of town and got a carved-in-stone-permanent-fixed 4.3% rate from the Texas Veterans Land Board. My lender will be biting my ass until the year 2034!

Tragically, my neighbors have not fared so well. My neighborhood is still so new that we have vacant lots for new construction on the streets surrounding mine. However, almost every existing house in the area has its second or third owner, and I am saddened to see my friendly neighbors selling off their 3 to 5-year-old homes because they can't make the payments. They are not "knuckleheads" who made bad choices. They are merchants and professionals who make good money, but not good enough for the mortgage companies.

What's more, houses are no longer selling like beer at a chili festival. I sold my 30 year old home in 2003 in only 2 weeks. People who wanted into my new neighborhood were waiting up to a year to move into new construction. Now, it takes 9 months to a year to sell a beautiful, almost-new home in this scenic location, and unbelievably, the contractors are cutting new roads into the desert and constructing blocks of 100 new homes at a time, even with such a lousy market.

Someone previously claimed that "God" wanted people to invest their money wisely and that it was just tough tacos for those "knucklehead users of money" who got screwed. Well, I would suggest that the next time he reads his Bible, he would do well to spend some time reading about all the Biblical prohibitions against usury, and also take to heart all the Bibilical requirements to forgive (not foreclose) loans that cannot reasonably be repaid; to return collateral to debtors who need it to meet their daily needs; and the obligation to cancel all outstanding debts and return all collateral, regardless of the status of the loan, every 49 years during the "Jubilee."

Friends, next year is Election Year. Next year is the time for us to speak with one voice and face the banks with one heart and make them change their destructive ways!

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Bank practices illegal
Posted by: Ghoulman on Mar 25, 2007 10:12 AM   
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... the fees, rates, interest, and on and on have been deregulated to the point where Banks are literally no better than loan sharks. These practices of banks today were, 20 years before, illegal. I can't think of any aspect of banking and loaning today that isn't designed to make the bank 'fast' money. Usury is too kind a term. If one is making loans outside the law, one is a LOAN SHARK.

At least loan sharks just shoot off your knee caps. That's far less cruel than putting families tens of thousands of dollars further into an impossible dept. And I'm a student with a loan, don't get me started on that! If you're wondering what "family values" governments have lead in this deregulation... oh, I don't have to tell ya do I?

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» .... and immoral Posted by: peachmcd
We are owned...
Posted by: Blade on Mar 25, 2007 10:35 AM   
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Here is some good reading about ownership... http://www.cooperativeindividualism.org/georgism_01.html

Time Mag. has cover story about Bible classes now being taught in schools. Thomas Paine and Henry George should be taught instead.

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» RE: We are owned... Posted by: WitchyNy
Debt = Depression
Posted by: ReallyBearish on Mar 25, 2007 11:04 AM   
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Make no mistake about it, high levels of debt produce inflation that gets unwound into a deflation. Boom and bust are different sides to the same coin.

However, an economic ignoramous like Bush will produce a hyper-inflation that reduces the American dollar to a nearly zero purchasing power before we get to the deflation side of the equation. The only protection is precious metals, which I suspect Bush will try to confiscate at the last minute.

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» RE: Debt = Depression Posted by: richholland
THE FED, DEBT, AND THE COUNSEL OF MORMON PROPHETS
Posted by: poppop_schell on Mar 26, 2007 10:42 AM   
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Bottom line, is that the ability to borrow the large amounts is do to the FED in two ways: they monetize the federal debt thus eventually placing tons of money in bankswhich then make it available for loans. The FED also determines the amount of borrowing by the interest rate. The second most powerful person in the USA is the Chairman of the FED.

Lastly, people refuse to heed the words of Mormon Prophets who have clearly warned for 50+ years against the growing materialim of all too many people and the desire to have it NOW rather than saving to pay for their materilaistic appetites. Debt makes a person a SLAVE to his passions. High taxes makes us SLAVES to government.

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ARMs should be reserved for the wealthy
Posted by: Trazom on Mar 26, 2007 1:52 PM   
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It seems that the housing market is much like the stock market after all. I have based this conclusion on the fact that the ordinary unschooled person continually gets himself into trouble by chasing the market. Just as the inexperienced person who goes after the "hot" stock mostly loses (as the large runup has already run its course, and invariably has to settle to some lower value), so does the person who selects his house based on interest rates.

Conventional wisdom says that when interest rates are low you should opt for a fixed rate, and when interest rates are very high you should opt for a variable rate mortgage. This of course assumes you hit the cycle just right, whether it be on the interest rate peak or trough. Let's just assume for simplicity that you more or less know when interest rates are at or near their peaks. Then my question is why on earth, during a time of 40-year low interest rates, did so many people opt for adjustable rate mortgages? Didn't they know the day of reckoning would come? Wouldn't it have been prudent to guarantee themselves a low rate for the length of their loan? But instead we witnessed a lot of the opposite, contributing to a large portion of much of the grief currently facing the new embattled and near-broke homeowners these days.

I wonder how many people opted for ARMs back in the mid eighties when interest rates were in the high teens and low twenties? How many of them thought maybe they were at or near a peak and it would be smart to take out a ARM, banking on eventual lower rates? But I'll bet a significant, albeit majority of people went with the conventional rate for fear of even higher rates.

My point is people seem to chase trends, when they should be trying to predict the market a little bit. Most financial experts know this and that is why they should have outlawed ARMs for everyone except those making at least a certain amount, say $200,000 or more. Please note I'm not advocating that a lot of the misery many new homeowners are going through these days is necessarily all their fault. I just think there should have been some better safety nets in place so this didn't happen, mainly because most people are not good at making financial decisions like these.

As a side note, I wanted to point out the irony of ARMs vs. fixed rates in that as inflation creeps up, the disparity between those with fixed rate loans and those with ARMs only increases. We all know that people with ARMs that reset have to pay higher and higher mortgage payments each month, but the rewards for having a fixed rate are doubly sweet. First, your payment is fixed, second, over time the effects of inflation on your paycheck will make it easier to repay the loan, making your loan work for you to some degree.

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has socialisme something Good
Posted by: richholland on Mar 28, 2007 1:30 AM   
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if a bank gives too much money to a person according dutch laws the person has to live 3 years on a minimum and is free of debts. Because the bank is the capitalist and the workers is less powerfull.
So if you have a moderate salary but 100.000 personak debts and 200.000 mortgage etc. you know after 3 years poverty you are FREE. This is because many Europe countries have a mixed economy.
The government gives the intrest rates so a loan shark has no legal protection.
American should get rid of the idea that Capitalisme means wealth also for the average person. It gives wealth to the Capitalists.
Please read Orwell 1984, many communistic and fascistisc horror now rules inside America.

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