Home
Archive
Columnists
Video
Blogs
Discuss
About
Search
Donate
Advertise
Advertisement
Advertisement
Advertisement
Advertisement
Register to Vote: Rock the Vote, powered by Working Assets Wireless
  • AlterNetYour turn

Support AlterNet
Do you value the information you're getting from AlterNet? Please show your support with a tax-deductible donation.


Feedback
Tell us how we're doing.

The First Openly Godless Member of Congress

By Ellen Goodman, Truthdig. Posted March 24, 2007.


Representative Pete Stark is the highest-ranking politician in American history say publicly that he doesn't believe a "supreme being" -- but believes that real political courage is saying, "Let's tax the rich and give money to poor kids."
Advertisement

He's not exactly a profile in courage. After all, Pete Stark is 75 and has represented his liberal district near San Francisco for more than 30 years. It's unlikely that he'll be tarred and feathered or sent packing for admitting that he's, well, a godless politician.

Nevertheless, Stark recently broke a political taboo. He became the first member of Congress to say publicly that he doesn't believe in "a supreme being." The next most powerful politician to identify himself as a "non-theist" in response to a question by the Secular Coalition for America was a school board president in Berkeley.

Some described Stark's admission as "coming out of the closet." Others rued the fact that God was not on his side. A spokesman for the Concerned Women for America unabashedly bashed him, saying that "a Christian worldview is proper for a politician to have."

Not surprisingly, Stark has no ambitions for the presidency. In one of those endless polls surveying whether we are "ready for" a black, a woman, a Jew or others to be president, only 14 percent of Americans believe we're ready for an atheist. What Stark has done, however, is open a fresh chapter in this year's hefty book on presidential politics and religion.

Until the Stark moment, what captured media attention has been the subtle and not-so-subtle focus on Mitt Romney and his Mormon faith. Will his religion hurt his chances for the Republican nomination? How much?

I've been especially struck by this because I was a young reporter in Detroit when Romney's father, George, was governor of Michigan. I barely heard a peep about George Romney's faith, even though at the time his church still banned blacks from the priesthood. I didn't even know George's grandfather had five wives. In 1967, this Romney's campaign to be the moderate, anti-war Republican president foundered after he admitted being "brainwashed" about the Vietnam War. It had nothing to do with faith.

What happened between 1967 and 2007? How did the matter of someone's religion get back into the dead center of the public square, not to mention the cable shows and the blogosphere?

The first Romney came to political prominence after the postwar growth of ecumenical suburbs and after Jack Kennedy's famous speech: "I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute -- where no Catholic prelate would tell the president (should he be Catholic) how to act and no Protestant minister would tell his parishioners for whom to vote."

"I do not speak for my church on public matters -- and the church does not speak for me," said Kennedy. JFK's pivotal speech and his election seemed to take religion off the public table.

Fast forward to the rise of the Moral Majority. In 1976 Jerry Falwell offered his very un-JFK opinion: "The idea that religion and politics don't mix was invented by the devil to keep Christians from running their own country." Over the following generation, the religious right bonded to the Republican Party. It also grabbed the idea that traditional religion was the only way to frame the moral dimensions of a public issue.

So now we hear strategists calculating Mitt Romney's chances as The Mormon Candidate. One reporter even asked Romney the Mormon version of the "boxers or briefs" question: Does he wear temple garments, the special underwear of his church? Romney himself reassured a meeting of evangelical leaders that he too believes in the virgin birth, the crucifixion and resurrection. Are these on the religious right's ecclesiastical checklist for president?

In the past several years, many Americans have tried to decouple "religious" from "right." Prominent evangelicals are trying to expand the conversation about values from gay marriage to the environment, from abortion to poverty. At the same time, there are progressives as well as conservatives who connect their religious beliefs to public policy. And Democrats too are urged to wear their religion on their sleeves and in their speeches.

In 1967 and in 2007, the values of many -- maybe most -- Americans feel rooted in religion. As a society we need to have conversations about right and wrong. But in this increasingly pluralistic country we also need to uphold the idea that morals are not the exclusive property of any one religion. More controversially, we need to welcome the idea that values are not the exclusive property of religion itself.

Pete Stark denies that it takes courage to become the first admitted non-theist in the House. "What is courageous," he adds, "is to stand up in Congress and say, 'Let's tax the rich and give money to poor kids."' There are many ways to be a true believer.

Digg!

See more stories tagged with: congress, atheism, pete stark

Ellen Goodman's e-mail address is ellengoodman@globe.com.

Liked this story? Get top stories in your inbox each week from AlterNet! Sign up now »


Advertisement

 

Comments Turn comments off sitewide Give us feedback »
Comments closed.
The comments for this story have been closed. Thank you to everyone who participated.
View:
The Vatican can be pulled into American politics if religion has its rights in Politics
Posted by: werewolf on Mar 24, 2007 1:10 AM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
And when that happens it would not be long before America starts sliding back into the Age of Inquisition, with the Constitution its first casualty.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

drew
Posted by: drew on Mar 24, 2007 2:19 AM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
when i was younger jesus was a teacher of universal morality, respect and values. Now jesus is the god of "our tribe". the right has constricted religion to such a primative level that that god is no more believable than Baal.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» Help me Jesus! Help me Oprah! Posted by: lessbread
Spread the word
Posted by: toolband on Mar 24, 2007 2:49 AM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
It's time for the educated to enlighten the masses. We need to expose religion for what it truly is.

Religion is simply a tool government/elite wealthy use to oppress the masses.

Look at the basic messages of religion. Turn the other cheek. Be meek. Slaves server your masters. Don't try to be wealthy as it's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a wealthy man to get to heaven...these reinforce the status quo and keep the elite in power. These messages prevent the lower class from uniting to fight the wealthy elite. These messages are poison to the working class and that is exactly who the messages were created for. Religion is the opiate of the masses. Education is the anitidote. Spread the word. Check out Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, A christian and an atheist, www.whydoesgodhateamputees.com

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Atheists' Coming Out
Posted by: jwc on Mar 24, 2007 4:06 AM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Respectable public figures who do not believe in a god or require a religion to explain their values could be some of the most valuable assets we have to counter the Christian Right today- if only they would come out of the closet.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

COURAGE? Give me a break.
Posted by: HughScott on Mar 24, 2007 5:17 AM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
From Wikipedia: “During his time in Congress, Stark has made several controversial statements. In 2003, he called Rep. Scott McInnis (R-Colo.) a 'fruitcake' and was alledged to have hurled additional slurs. In 1995, he called Rep. Nancy Johnson (R-Conn.) a 'whore for the insurance industry,' which conservatives criticized as being sexist.”

The fruitcake is Stark, Being an athiest is his business, acting like a jerk is ours.

One more thing. How much “courage" does it take to promote taxing rich people to help the poor? NONE.

Hugh E. Scott, editor of King-George.biz -- the only website with hardcopy proof of White House corruption (one reason why Bush won’t let Karl Rove testify under oath in the U.S. attorneys’ firing scandal).

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» RE: COURAGE? Give me a break. Posted by: liberalibrarian
» Oh wow! Posted by:
» wrt McInnis Posted by: MartianBachelor
» RE: COURAGE? Give me a break. Posted by: leafsong1
An important declaration by Stark
Posted by: whyoung on Mar 24, 2007 6:03 AM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
By today's popular religious standards none of the first five presidents would be considered theists. Four of them were Deistic Episcopalians and firmly anti-Orthodox and the other was a Unitarian Christian or Deist and openly anti-Trinitarian.

Brave or not, Stark's declaration is very important if for no other reason than to have brought the subject into the arena of discussion.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» That's right Posted by:
Well, Pete Stark is correct. If there were a God, Bush and the neocon NAZIs and the
Posted by: maxpayne on Mar 24, 2007 7:13 AM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Muslim/Christian/religious-zeolots-in-general fundies would have been POUNDED to death for there horrendous crimes against mankind. In addition, we wouldn't be stuck with "legislating morality" because that's the role of God, not legislators ! Currently, we live in a society where evil is no longer hidden but in our face and the current playing field gives evil a head start. The rightwing doesn't really believe in GOD despite their lies. At least Pete Stark is honest about it.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Re Peter Stark
Posted by: pcushniesr on Mar 24, 2007 7:41 AM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Go, Pete!
God is a lie, religion is a hoax, and both are perpetrated by the fraudulent to manipulate the ignorant.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» RE: e Peter Stark Posted by: willymack
» RE: e Peter Stark Posted by: linuxluver
Destroy all mysticism
Posted by: ateo on Mar 24, 2007 9:16 AM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
The most important thing humanity can do is destroy all belief in mysticism. This is not the appropriate place to debate religion (which I never do anyway because I consider it a waste of my time to argue with delusional imbeciles aka religious believers). Suffice it to say I decided Santa Clause did not exist when I was 4 and I decided God did not exist when I was 10 much to the dismay of my Baptist family.

I'm glad there is at least one American politician willing to stand up for science, logic, reason - the fundamental building blocks of the modern world. Religion is the opiate of the masses. However, some European nations and even Australia and New Zealand are on the right track in this regard. Sweden's population is upwards of 70% atheist/agnostic. Numbers approach 50% in France/U.K. Canada/Australia are between 25-30%. Yet the U.S., land of ignorance, sits at less than 5% by many estimates.

What can be done? Many of my friends believe in God/religion and it sickens me on a deeply fundamental level that they can be that stupid.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» RE: Destroy all mysticism Posted by: cashelboylo
I love god
Posted by: White middleclass male on Mar 24, 2007 10:13 AM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
He keeps the slaves in check. Anyone stupid enough to believe in some bronze age sky god deserves what they get.

Now shut up and row.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

No History:Know Jesus - Know History:No Jesus
Posted by: Fog on Mar 24, 2007 11:04 AM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
No History : Know Jesus
Know History : No Jesus

Down with sky faries. Up with knowledge.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

POLITICIANS AND GOD
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Mar 24, 2007 11:08 AM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
It's a fact, that the more people go on about how wonderful, kind and caring they are (with or without God) the more likely they are to be dirtbags. Remember the "people of faith". They invaded Iraq (that worked out fine) and to this day they ignore New Orleans. I don't care to know what people believe in. That's your busines.. Tell me what you've done. In the real world it's called a resume. You want to be on my payroll.
Show me please. Leave God out of it. Thanks, ANNA

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Dogmatism, Whether Theistic Or Atheistic: Dangerous
Posted by: ZPaul on Mar 24, 2007 11:43 AM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I believe freedom includes freedom to believe or not believe in God, and to practice one´s own religion or philosophy, as long as one does not impose one´s belief or non-belief on others. So I do not agree with the atheists/agnostics who have decided they must go on a crusade to "enlighten" those who practice a religion. This is as bad, to me, as the religious fanatics who impose their religion on their victims. I want no part of a reverse witch-hunt. I am against dogmatism. I believe it is dangerous. Very dangerous.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» Atheism is not Dogmatism Posted by: LRayn
Yea, but
Posted by: ateo on Mar 24, 2007 12:16 PM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
On the other hand most Christians believe anyone who doesn't believe in Christ is evil. If you don't believe in any supreme being at all then you're the anti-christ in their eyes. You will be discriminated against in every possible venue for your lack of belief whereas Christians are not only open but preachy with their beliefs and are rewarded.

Therefore, if some Christians and other mentally ill persons can be persuaded through reason to face reality for what it is and embrace it, then that is what should happen.

I'm not talking about re-education camps, or a "reverse witch hunt" as you say. I am simply talking about education.

Most unintelligent people have a void in their life that will be filled by whatever nonsense you feed them. I say instead of nonsense give them logic, reason, and science.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

So long as politics is a beauty contest (and it is; we vote for the most 'attractive' candidate)....
Posted by: Sojourner on Mar 24, 2007 12:33 PM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
....then a candidate's religion will be like part of the contestant's biography.

Beauty queens don't admit that they have marks or scars and expect to win. Can you imagine Miss America showing us her lipo suction marks? I don't expect candidates to show us their flaws either.

It's not their fault so much as it is ours, the voters, who want beauty queens to manage the business of the nation. It's just another feature of our infantile narcissistic culture. "Looking" good is more important than being good at something, and always will be until American voters grow up.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Old Wise Words....
Posted by: WitchyNy on Mar 24, 2007 1:35 PM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
KEEP YOU DOPED WITH RELIGION AND SEX AND TV
BUT YOUR SILL FUCKING PEASANTS
AS FAR AS I CAN SEE

John Lennon

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» RE: Old Wise Words.... Posted by: willymack
Pete is religious
Posted by: reval on Mar 24, 2007 3:41 PM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
He's a member of our church WVCSR

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Closeted atheists
Posted by: trudenza on Mar 24, 2007 8:29 PM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Is there really anyone out there who believes that Dick Cheney is not an atheist? George W. Bush? Pat Robertson? Jerry Falwell? If any of these men actually believed the bilge they spew about God/Jesus/Heaven/Hell/Judgment Day, they would be walking around in permanently stained pants, terrified of what awaits them upon their deaths. Or they would have started acting like Christians a long time ago. They are scamsters, con men who have learned to use the fear, guilt and doubt inflicted on young children to enrich and empower themselves.
Certainly, it is not only Christians who do this; most other religions boast "leaders" who capitalize on the slave mentality that is the major contribution of religion. When you can convince people to get down on their knees and give unearned praise to an unseen being for a world steeped in misery, poverty, ignorance and disease, you are well on the way to getting them to bow down to human bullies.
Ah, God, who gets the credit for the good things in life, but none of the blame for cancer-stricken children, hurricanes or tsunamis. God, who gave us free will but punishes us for using it. God, who gave us 10 commandments to live by, and reserved most of them for forbidding us from dissing him, with a few thrown in to let us know how we should treat each other. God, who is always on OUR side during yet another war, no matter which side we are. God is so accommodating in one respect: he always stands for whatever any individual who claims to believe in him says he stands for.
As for me, I don't wish to make any claims on behalf of God, nor do I wish to make any demands of him. God can go his way, and I'll go mine. And if I choose to have compassion for the poor and suffering, and to give respect to people who are different from me, and to refrain from telling others how to live their lives and what they can believe -- well, if God doesn't like it, that's his tough luck.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» RE: Closeted atheists Posted by: RrrandyWurst
» RE: Closeted atheists Posted by: cbcb
Religious tests
Posted by: MartianBachelor on Mar 24, 2007 9:35 PM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
The Framers specifically wrote a clause into the Constitution banning religious tests for public office. But just about every candidate for every office acts as if there is such a test.

We evidently need an amendment or a Supreme Court ruling enforcing state/church separation by ejecting from any election any candidate who brings up their religion. Sortofa "don't ask, don't tell" policy for campaigns to rid us of a bunch of irrelevant BS. The only exception would be for someone who had started their own religion.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Great clip of Richard Dawkins lecture... requires Quicktime
Posted by: jwc on Mar 25, 2007 12:56 AM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Dawkins reads clips from The God Delusion and takes questions from people trying to trip him up. Hmmm... wonder who wins? Click
here

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

If you believe in "destroying all belief in mysticism"...
Posted by: ZPaul on Mar 25, 2007 2:48 AM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
If you believe in "destroying all belief in mysticism", how can that statement be congruent with some atheists´ claims that "most atheists respect all faiths"? It seems to me that all atheists are not in agreement on this -- just as all christians do not believe that all who do not believe as they do are hell-bound and must be "converted" to their "doctrines".

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Behold, the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
Posted by: Pat Kittle on Mar 25, 2007 8:18 PM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Yes, the Lord works in mysterious ways.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

This country will only...
Posted by: ShrubtheWarcriminal on Mar 26, 2007 2:10 AM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
...have begun to achieve the greatness it professes and pretends to have when an "open" atheist can even think about running for dog catcher let alone (horrors!) winning.

Running for higher office would probably take an act of God (one of His good acts-not His cancer or wars, or other "Wraths").

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Indeed the US has a theistic culture
Posted by: esteph on Mar 26, 2007 6:56 AM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
As a European, I find it both disturbing and frightening that it seems to be impossible for a US politician to be even an agnostic, let alone an atheist. The assumption that you have to be a Christian to be trustworthy to be in charge of anything is an insult to those of us who believe in no god or gods. At least we do not try to foist our moral values on those who don't agree with us.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

ALTERNET HAS FOUND ITS HERO?
Posted by: poppop_schell on Mar 26, 2007 10:45 AM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
GIVEN THE LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE ON ALTERNET WHO ARE ATHEISTS and/OR broad brush all Christians as hypocrites, I congratulate you on finding your perfect role model.. a real hero. I am sure that NOW America will become a true bastion of tolerance, virtue, and an example for the world to follow.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Not all our politicians are Godless heathens!
Posted by: Pat Kittle on Mar 26, 2007 11:40 AM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
People of "faith"....
Posted by: ShrubtheWarcriminal on Mar 26, 2007 11:39 PM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
.......love to be martyrs. People of faith love mythology to the point of distraction... People of faith are more apt to drink the Kool Aid...literally. People of faith are the most scary people on earth!

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Religion Harmless? Are you kidding?
Posted by: lorenkahle on Mar 29, 2007 8:11 AM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Christians who believe in heaven, also believe in hell. And if you don't get into heaven, then where do you go? Hell. That's right. You are tortured for all eternity. Now, that's a nice message, isn't it. Most Christians I know, don't want to think about it this way, but let's face it, that's the fear factor for believing and having "faith". Faith that YOU are going to heaven, because going to HELL is where other people are going.

Let's face it, Religion is nothing less than a mind fantasy that allows people to control others and live life without responsibility, after all, if I repent my sins, I am forgiven (even Hitler style atrocities) and I go to Heaven. What a nice happy thought. Who cares what happens to other people.

Read Sam Harris' "The End of Faith" to read a perspective of why religious moderates are a danger to us all. (because they support dangerous religious activities mindlessly)

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]