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Quality of Life: Who Should Decide for Disabled People?

By Patricia Williams, The Nation. Posted March 28, 2007.


The parents of a severely disabled 9-year-old girl subjected her to a series of nonessential surgeries. Though their decision was made out of love, this case raises too many troubling questions about medical ethics and public policy to withhold judgment.

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For the last several months, I've been fretting about the policy implications of the case of Ashley, Seattle's so-called "pillow angel." Ashley is a 9-year-old child who was born with a debilitating disorder that caused her brain to stop developing at about the age of three months. She is sensate, she smiles, she seems at times to recognize her family members and to enjoy music. But she can barely move and will never learn to speak. When she was 6, Ashley's parents subjected her body to a series of interventions ostensibly designed to keep her small, easy to lift and thus less prone to bedsores and to render her permanently childlike.

To these ends, her breast buds were removed, in part because of a family history of breast cancer but, more immediately, to accommodate the harness straps that hold her upright. According to her parents' blog, "developed breasts ... would only be a source of discomfort to her." Her appendix was removed because were she to get appendicitis it was feared she would not be able to communicate her distress. She was given sufficiently high doses of estrogen to insure that her growth plates would close, limiting her height. This, despite the fact that estrogen at such doses carries other risks, most significant an increase in the incidence of blood clots; but her parents felt that being able to easily lift her outweighed that possible detriment. Her uterus, too, was removed, to spare her the pain of menstrual cramps "or pregnancy in the event of rape."

I think this course was wrong for Ashley. Who of us, with full capacity to consent, would undergo the painful invasiveness of a full hysterectomy just to prevent cramps or as a prophylactic against rape's violations? Why then should it be permitted in the case of someone who has no capacity to protest? Even assuming a life at the hands of sexual predators were so predestined a fate, why not birth control pills?

This was also very wrong as a matter of ethics and public policy. There seems to be, in the national debate about this case, a popular consensus that the parents were well motivated, so who are the rest of us to judge? That sentiment is expressed loftily, as in Peter Singer's New York Times op-ed ("she is precious not so much for what she is, but because her parents and siblings love her and care about her"), and crudely, as in an anonymous online posting to the disability rights organization FRIDA ("I think your group is a pain in the neck ... if and when something happens to the caregiver, who will take care of the disabled person ... your group or the state who really does not give a hoot.")

I do not question either how much Ashley's parents love their daughter or how overwhelming their responsibilities must be. I do, however, fault the hospital establishment for allowing these surgeries to happen. In essence, the hospital allowed ethical questions about Ashley's long-term care and comfort to be privatized by deferring so unquestioningly to her parents' posited love. The hospital created an extreme presumption in favor of (often cash-strapped) caretakers that is heedless of medical necessity. Given a presumption premised on "love" rather than medical imperative, why not remove all her teeth to spare her the pain of cavities? Why not excise her fingernails to spare her the pain of accidentally scratching herself? Why not remove one of her healthy spare kidneys and donate it? -- that might make her and the world a little lighter. If I'm not the one who loves her, who am I to judge? That facile shrug allows us to ignore that Ashley's body was not altered to correct any physical need of her own but to address tenuous suppositions about long-term social pressures: She'd be more included in family events, she'd be less attractive to rapists (if not child molesters), she'd be more portable for the convenience of caretakers. Real medical benefits, such as lessened risks of cancers or appendicitis, were entirely speculative.


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Patricia J. Williams, a professor of law at Columbia University and a member of the State Bar of California, writes The Nation column "Diary of a Mad Law Professor." Her books include The Rooster's Egg (1995), Seeing a Color-Blind Future: The Paradox of Race (1997) and, most recently, Open House: On Family Food, Friends, Piano Lessons and The Search for a Room of My Own (Farrar Straus and Giroux, 2004.)

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If not the Parents then who?
Posted by: EncinoM on Mar 28, 2007 12:13 AM   
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From the text of the above article, one can sense that the author would want the decisions of health care taken away from parents. The question then becomes, or doe who can not speak for them selves, who makes the call.

Do we trust the medical industry, the government, a court?

Yes the case above is an extreme case, but unless you have other evidence, the parent are the best care givers. Didn't we go through a similar mess with Terry Shrivo (sp?).

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» RE: If not the Parents then who? Posted by: Aussie Kim
ashley's family and health practitioners made the right decision...
Posted by: kranstar on Mar 28, 2007 2:02 AM   
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Ashley's parents and health practitioners had her well being in mind--now and for the future--when they made the decision to go ahead with "the Ashley treatment." Thanks to them, Ashley's been granted the best quality of life possible. When a cure is absent, and treatment is limited, enhancing quality of life is the next best thing.

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But you're missing the point...
Posted by: EagleMB on Mar 28, 2007 3:07 AM   
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The author needs some fuel to fire the medical care debate. People should not be permitted to run their own lives. It shall be the governments job to dictate where we live, where we work, what benefits we receive, etc. Other than the right to "toke up" without government intervention and to criticize our government, we shall have no say. People are evil...the government has all the answers...lets go socialism!!!

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Oh, please
Posted by: H_H on Mar 28, 2007 4:25 AM   
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"It is harder to imagine doctors so compliantly agreeing to castrate a boy, say, in order to allow his wheelchair seatbelt to fit better."

Let's be honest about this gender-reversal. If this same kid was a boy and the doctors wanted to remove X number of bits from his body for any reason, it wouldn't have even made the paper. There have, in fact, been a few dozen infant boys who've been castrated as a result of being born with deformed genitals and raised as girls; any psychological trauma done to them by raising them in ways that felt unnatural to them was basically considered irrelevant.

The ONLY reason this article has been written is because the author has more compassion for girls. Period.

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» Agreed. Posted by: JoshuaLudd
» sex-reassignment bullshit Posted by: freeda'all
Life is for the living
Posted by: franberi on Mar 28, 2007 4:35 AM   
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I'm not a mean person, but, come on. What is the quality of this persons life? She's not living at all. Her "loved ones" are being selfish. Pillow angel? Please, someone, take that pillow, and end her pitiful, lifeless life. Too much time, and money has been spent. Where are the Doctors when us poor folk need them? None of these procedures seem necessary. Then again, doctors will do what you want when you're paying them. Let's call it what it is- CHILD ABUSE.

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Hysterectomy and Mind Your Own Business
Posted by: veggiegrrrl on Mar 28, 2007 6:34 AM   
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I finally got my hysterectomy after enduring horrendous cramps and massive bleeding since the age of 11. I would've been spared YEARS of excruciating and debilitating pain if I had done it sooner. I did it at age 42. Never been more free, more happy, more comfortable in my body.

I suggest the author spend a year caring for a woman in a wheel chair for a year (one who still pees, poos, and bleeds) and endure the 24/7 care the parents endure and then decide what's best for EVERYONE.

Compassion for the disabled is necessary. But in the case of the severely disabled, compassion for the caregivers is utmost.

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hand-wringing nonsense
Posted by: schnoggi on Mar 28, 2007 7:12 AM   
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this is the kind of compulsive headless-running-chicken worrying that keeps the left paralyzed and useless. of all the issues in the world, this is where you choose to put your attention? how do you shop at the grocery store, stand there and cry for all the cans you didn't pick? grow up.

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Well, thank you Patricia...
Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Mar 28, 2007 7:50 AM   
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For trying to supplant the role of the parents in this case. I'm sure it would, of course, be YOU who would lift this woman in adulthood and take care of her... and give her those brith control pills you talk about.

Who should make the decision for a minor who is obviously incapacitated???? HER PARENTS!!! HER FAMILY!!! PEOPLE WHO LOVE HER!!! PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY KNOW HER AND LIVE WITH HER!!!

NOT YOU! NOT GOVERNMENT! NOT DOCTORS WHO HAVE NEVER EVEN SEEN HER!

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» RE: Well, thank you Patricia... Posted by: JoshuaLudd
So you think that was wrong? SO what?
Posted by: ladyoracle on Mar 28, 2007 8:30 AM   
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I would have a hysterectomy to avoid menstrual cramps and pregnancy resulting from rape. Yes, I would. That makes the most sense. She has the mind of a 3-MONTH year old child. She will never know the pleasure of sex, so unless you are just sadistic, there is no need to subject her to the pain of menstruation. I applaud her parents for making that smart, albeit difficult, decision. And the pain recovering from one surgery is going to be better than the monthly, week-long agony of menstruation.

Removing the breast buds, on the other hand, is excessive. The parents should get a different kind of harness. But again, think of the severity of this girl's mental limitation. She will not realize she is supposed to have them but doesn't.

Stunting her growth is the most questionable procedure, particularly because of the risks involved. But again, the lack of growth will not impede her quality of life because she is immobile. Her small size will reduce her bedsores. That will be quality of life for her.

Have some compassion for the girl and her family. I would be much closer to agreeing with the author's objections if the girl was not so severely mentally and physically handicapped.

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The parents were right
Posted by: slantedplanet on Mar 28, 2007 9:47 AM   
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The author of this piece has obviously never had to lift a disabled adult who is dead weight, incontinent of bowel and bladder, and must be repositioned regularly to avoid pressure sores. As a nurse, I know firsthand how backbreaking it is. I think the parents are thinking in a very practical manner as they comtemplate the long-term care of their daughter. And, of course, the parents and their doctor are the only ones qualified to make these decisions.

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» RE: The parents were right Posted by: bearsky
Parents
Posted by: levp on Mar 28, 2007 9:50 AM   
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Just a quick reminder that not all parents make their child care decisions based on "love".
Just ask Nixmary Brown. Oh, wait - you can't. She's dead.

Then some parents do think it was love that guided them - with the same fatal result. Read this, for example.
I like this part: "...As Lake City, Florida Mayor Gerald Witt said of local faith-related deaths, “It may be necessary for some babies to die to maintain our religious freedoms. It may be the price we have to pay; everything has a price.”

We don't need no stinking oversight...

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» RE: Parents Posted by: levp
eugenics
Posted by: SekhmetsatRa on Mar 28, 2007 10:12 AM   
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eugenics people... prevent these wastes of flesh to begin with.

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» RE: eugenics Posted by: insulaparadigm
» RE: eugenics Posted by: SekhmetsatRa
» RE: eugenics Posted by: insulaparadigm
in a perfect world
Posted by: Jesse on Mar 28, 2007 10:24 AM   
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The article has a couple of problems, mostly in the issues it does not address.

For example, there are any number of Downs Syndrome women out there, who aren't functional enough to, for example, take birth control pills or anything else. If the caregiver dies (as is often the case) you have abig problem because you have someone who is in no shape to consent to sex, and then a whole stack of problems regarding pregnancy and child-rearing. "I Am Sam" was a cute movie, but so blisteringly unrealistic it is risible.

The parents were doing their best to think ahead and try to cover all the bases in case they die. And in fact, there is every reason to think they might do so before their daughter. What then? In a perfect world, the girl would have care. But we don't live in that world.

The issue of leaving caregivers with these decisions is a salient one, but glossed over. While we should all fight for universal health care for the disabled, these parents can't wait for policy to catch up.

That isn't to say nothing the parents did was problematic. But it seems to me there were no good decisions to be made here. And the issue of making decisions, while important, doesn't seem to fit in this case. The girl involved cannot and never will be able to make decisions about here care, period.

That leaves it to the parents, and then to whoever takes over after they die.

Sometimes you have to make decisions that plainly put, suck.

Now, as to Williams' comment that no one would consider castrating a boy, she offers zero evidence for this (a representative and similar case would help). While there are all kinds of issues about gender and health and the like to be brought up here, I don't think she does a very good job of it. She fails to note that a major, major difference between men and women is a man can force sex on a disabled woman and force her to be pregnant. The reverse is simply not the case.

The hysterectomy was an imperfect solution (I'd have opted for tubal ligation) but what would you do?

Williams offers no ideas of her own, and I think it incumbent upon her to say that if she thinks the decisions of the parents were wrong, to offer what her solution would be.

Yes, "they love her" is a cheap cop-out and frankly about as much use as a five-wheeled Pinto in figuring this dilemma out. But Williams needs to tell us what she thinks the right decisions would be, given the limits of the society we currently live in.

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Until you've walked a mile in their shoes....
Posted by: CharAnn on Mar 28, 2007 11:04 AM   
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I support the parents 100% in all of their decisions. Until you have been in that situation, you really don't know what you would do. Have you ever cared for a severely and profoundly retarded person? I have worked in an institution for such people, and it seemed that there was always someone around to take sexual advantage of both males and females -- even though safeguards were in place to keep that from happening. Have you ever cared for an adult, or even a child, who is dead weight? Even a 50-pound person becomes unbelievable heavy. Have you ever cared for someone with bed sores? Even with the very best care, they will develop. Not only are they painful, they can be fatal. Of course the operations made it easier for the parents. But they also increased the child's quality of life. What quality of life would she have when she got too large -- or they got too old -- and she had to be institutionalized? They made these decisions because they knew they would be the best caregivers. Before anyone else, even an ethics committee, criticizes the parents, they should have to "walk a mile in the parents' shoes." After doing that, they might rethink their criticism.

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I agree with the parents
Posted by: Rod on Mar 28, 2007 11:47 AM   
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I have a disabled daughter. Lucky for me, she is going to be naturally small, about 90 LBS, and she is very intelligent. I am 50. So, my list of injury from lifting include carpal tunnel, torn rotator cuff on both shoulders, and hernated disk. The longer I can be her primary caregiver, the better her life will be. Long term care in Missouri can be little better than warehouse them until they die. Being lifted hurts my daughter too. Did anyone one consider that?

Until you become primary caregiver for a disabled person, and experience the health system (I have private health insurace, and am over the income limit for state care) and visit state facilities, I will not place much weight on your opinion. When you do, you opinions will most likely change. Mind did. I was wrong before.

I support these parents 100%. So should every one of you. They have a very tough road to follow, and they are keeping their daughter with them, not turning her over to the state. Anyway to make that easier is going to help them all.

There is a famous quote, "if you want to know how to raise children, ask some one who does not have any" When you add a disability to the mix, it becomes even more true.

If you really want to help this girl, volunteer to help her parents. Or find a disabled girl in your town and help her. We are about making the world a better place here. So go out and do it.

Rod

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» RE: I agree with the parents Posted by: bearsky
Ethics Committee WAS involved
Posted by: kww355 on Mar 28, 2007 1:05 PM   
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If mjabele or the author of this naive piece had bothered to just do a modicum of research, they would have discovered that the medical ethics committee of Seattle Childrens Hospital WAS consulted and gave their ok.

Do you really think the hospital would have just done the surgeries without protecting itself from possible legal problems by not consultings its ethicists?

I applaud Ashley's parents and the medical ethics board for sanctioning the surgeries. Until medical care and long term care in this country become a universal right instead of a privilege, there will be more Ashleys and Terris.

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The author should take up Bridge
Posted by: themelinda on Mar 28, 2007 2:32 PM   
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Not to be rude but the author is making the usual extrapolative mistake of assuming that she has a right not just to notice and comment but to build a public profile and profit from the misfortunes of others.

Commentators, legislators, and others who want to sit back and critique how others live their lives, make choices, and survive are invested in the comfortable illusion that this is how our culture and government were intended to work. They are wrong. If the right thing had happened originally, if the inherent rights of women and blacks had been either recognized of the Constitution had failed to be ratified the use of legislation to force on all of us the judgements of those who have grown ever more morally flawed, would never have happened.

The State is a contractor, nothing more.

In fact, the interventionist policies of the State destroy families every day without accountability to anyone. Those in power make sure they are not liable but that they can profit. Tom DeLay profits from children taken from their homes and incarcerated in his 39 'foster homes' every single day.

People who see suffering in others and express appropriate concern put their hands in their own pockets or volunteer their own time. They do not use government to force others to do their will.

The inaction of those in government who have consistently failed to affirm to women their full inherent rights have forced women to struggle against legislative transfers of control in the area of their families and marriage that account for billions into the coffers of the State and the alphabet agencies that do more to put children at risk than anything else.

When you see who profits and how the picture is always ugly.

We come to life with unique circumstances, facing unique problems. How we survive and care for our families is our business. The author should stop trying to make the suffering of others a career move for herself. If she doesn't someone should investigate how much she makes by generating this kind of argument and justifying the increased costs to the families so impacted.

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WHAT PASSES FOR NEWS
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Mar 28, 2007 3:38 PM   
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It's in very poor taste to second guess people when they make decisions on such a grand scale. It's best to assume that they did what was in their child's best interest. It makes for sensational but insensitive journalism. There is no delicate way to write about some things. Maybe it should be limited to text books used to enlighten those who are forced to make such painful decisions in the future. Thanks, ANNA

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» RE: WHAT PASSES FOR NEWS Posted by: bearsky
Put her to sleep-
Posted by: WitchyNy on Mar 28, 2007 7:40 PM   
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I cannot imagine the pain and sadness and hardship of this family. This little girl cannot even tell anyone if she is in pain.
It would be a different issue if she were not so brain-damaged.

I think she should be gently and sadly put to sleep -and the family then adopt a baby girl from China or India...somewhere where children starve to death every day.

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Ed Roberts must be rolling in his grave...
Posted by: mgw711 on Mar 28, 2007 8:15 PM   
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...and that's saying something; he didn't roll over unassisted during his lifetime. (If you aren't familiar with the man known as the Martin Luther King of the Disability Rights movement, educate yourself.)

I'm not talking about the article, which does a pretty decent job outlining the issue. There is outrage in the disability community at this, among folks who are saying, "There, but for the grace of dumb luck and maybe some enlightened parents, could have gone I." These folks have contributed to our society more than most of the ignorant posters in this comment section can imagine. One person with disability's rights affect everyone's rights, and the whole society's responsibility.

I'm talking about the comments. I spent most of my adult life working in solidarity with adults with physical and developmental disabilities, and I'm sick at what I'm reading. There are some compassionate points in the comments here, but I'm shocked by some scary, eugenic-minded people who have posted. It's not a rhetorical trick to say that you specific folks are right in line with Hitler's thinking. NAZIs experimented on and exterminated people with disabilities first, because they were too "defective" for the master race and enough of the volk wrote off their rights as lesser or just didn't believe their lives were worth much.

I'm hoping what I'm reading is the work of a few whackos with too much time on their hands and not reflective of the Alternet readership. Can someone give me some encouragement here?

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Bravo to the parents!
Posted by: ciccio on Mar 28, 2007 8:56 PM   
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This issue is a few months old, I heard of it when it first came
out, thought it was a disgrace, then read the medical reports
and the parents web-site and changed my mind. I came the
conclusion that whilst pity and love had their fair share in the decision, hard cold logic and an understanding of human emotions won the day. The American medical system is a disgrace, not fit for a country that wants be known as civilized. The parents had only two options, to give her into care,where she would not be cared for, but warehoused, or to look after her themselves. They also knew that she may
live for another 70 years and they would not. They also knew that in twenty or thirty years they would not be able
to lift a grown woman. They also knew that man is far more
sympathetic to a little pillow angel than a great big slobbering 'retard'. In all likelyhood the parents will die before the daughter, these proceedures make it far more
possible for other family members to continue to take care of her. As far as I am concerned, the parents have shown
not only love, but also couragefar above and beyond the call
of duty.

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You're some pretty sick people posting these comments
Posted by: willdufauve on Mar 28, 2007 9:02 PM   
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You are some pretty sick people posting such hateful attitudes abouut a whole class of humans . What did the disabled ever do to you?

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Sounds like...
Posted by: Temporary on Mar 29, 2007 1:20 AM   
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TORTURE to my!!!

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difficult moral question
Posted by: susanh on Mar 29, 2007 9:55 AM   
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A lot of comments seem to assume that the moral issues are simple and that the parents' right to make these kinds of decisions are "obvious."

I don't think that they are simple or that coming down on one side or the other is obvious. People have supported the parents based on evidence of parental love, based on lack of other solutions provided by society, and based on their own sympathy for the parents' plight.

The one justification that bothers me is the one in which the feelings or welfare or personhood or rights of the disabled child are automatically discounted as though she were a pet animal. I think that this even happens to children who are less (or not at all) disabled, but it seems so "obvious" when the child is severely disabled. I think that the state has an obligation to participate (I didn't say dictate) in situations like these in which a person (who is not, by the way, owned by the parents) cannot make his/her own decision. Although the ties between parent and child are strong and should be accorded high respect, they must be balanced with the rights of the child, who is an entity, a human, and a citizen in his/her own right.

The state has an obligation to participate in the sense that it should set forth ethical standards and principles that guide the medical personnel. A process for making these decisions should be in place, and there should be due process recourse for disagreements.

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Can you get more patronizing? And a note to the Eugenics freaks.
Posted by: angryyoungwoman on Mar 29, 2007 10:31 PM   
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Who should decide for the disabled? Right. Because everyone with a disability is unable to decide for herself whether her life is worth living. I'm disabled--doesn't mean I'm brain-dead. From the text of the article I realize the author means the severely disabled and those with serious developmental delays. The title of this piece, though, is extremely offensive--as though all of us with disabilities need someone else to decide our lives for us.

Also all you eugenics people, you can kiss my ass. I lead a perfectly fulfilling life. I'm not a "waste of flesh." Hitler proved that eugenics is a slippery slope: he started with the disabled, moved on to homosexuals, Jews, blacks . . . Where does it stop? Who is "worthy" of living in a world where certain people are considered a waste of flesh? I may not have a perfectly whole body, but I have a genius IQ--and I think it would be sad for the world if they lost that just because some eugenics freak thought that my disability made me unworthy of life.

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Will the Left ever get a clue about disability politics or what is a disposable life?
Posted by: bearsky on Mar 30, 2007 9:02 AM   
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The poltics of disability includes the rights to self determination. Who decides for a child who is disabled when parents are going to do damage to her body? How about a guardian ad litem from the disabled community, steeped in disability politics - someone who wouldn't, for instance, let a suregeon do unnessacary surgeory to them, for the convience of caregivers.

Together then, a care plan would have to be worked out for the PERSON. I have to work out a plan for myself. How do I avoid pressure sores? Etc... I don't starve myself to death or have limbs hacked off. I never once contemplated having my breasts removed to avoid rape... I mean this is CRAZY thinking. Rape doesn't occur because someone has breasts in any case- it is an act of violence- not a sexual act- it occurs because of vulenaralbility... sigh. This is CRAZY.

The utter torture of this operations are so clearly unacceptable to many of us that a guardian ad litem could have stood up for Ashley.

She is not the property of her parents. People with disabilities can have interests that differ outside our caregivers best interests. They can be in conflict.

When someone is afraid their back will be hurt of they pick us up they are obligated to pick us up but neither are we obligated to mutilate our bodies so they don't hurt their backs.

The society has to address options- caregivers for instance, community care etc.

Now does it? It does not adequately- and this is where the issue of institutionalization, assisted suicide and these kinds of torturous procedures come in.

But the left needs to be insistant that is the power of the state to make people disposable needs to be fundamentally addressed.

or we are simply corrupt.

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Kenneth Kenigsberg, M.D., FACS, FAAP
Posted by: kkenigsberg on Mar 30, 2007 10:26 AM   
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One of the clinical considerations overlooked in all the discussions I've seen of this girl is a frequent cause of death in such cases as hers. This problem is bed sores. As an example, think of the recent death of the actor Christopher Reeve. He died of an infected bed sore, this, in spite of, presumably, excellant nursing care, which is the only efficacious preventative. Bed sores come about because the preassure of the body above exceeds the filling preassure of the capillaries in the dependant portion of the body. The greater the weight of the body, the greater the tendency to develop bed sores.
The operations conducted keep the patient's body weight low.

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Posted by: dnaylor on Apr 2, 2007 8:07 PM   
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I remember when this story broke the parents stated that other people just can't begin to imagine how difficult it was for them.

What would all the above points look like if these folks had adaquate help from the state?

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